Time's Gibbs repeated falsehood that Bill Clinton referred to Obama's candidacy as a "fairy tale"
SUMMARY: In a Time article, Nancy Gibbs wrote that Bill Clinton "hacked away at the 'fairy tale' that is [Barack] Obama's candidacy." In fact, Clinton did not refer to Obama or his campaign as a "fairy tale"; rather, as New York Times reporter Mark Leibovich wrote, Clinton "was referring specifically to the perception that Mr. Obama was totally pure in his opposition to the Iraq war."
In an article for the February 4 issue of Time magazine, editor-at-large Nancy Gibbs mischaracterized former President Bill Clinton's use of the term "fairy tale," falsely suggesting that he was referring to the presidential candidacy of Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL). Of Clinton's appearances on the campaign trail, Gibbs wrote: "Now it's his turn, wielding the hatchet in New Hampshire as he hacked away at the 'fairy tale' that is Obama's candidacy and taking Hillary's place in South Carolina so she could focus on Super-Duper Tuesday contests." In fact, in comments he made on January 7, Clinton did not refer to Obama or his campaign as a "fairy tale"; rather, as reporter Mark Leibovich wrote in a January 13 piece for The New York Times' Week In Review section, Clinton "was referring specifically to the perception that Mr. Obama was totally pure in his opposition to the Iraq war."
Numerous other news outlets -- including Newsweek and The Washington Post -- have similarly mischaracterized Clinton's remarks as referring generally to Obama's candidacy.
From the January 7 campaign event with Bill Clinton, as transcribed by Congressional Quarterly:
QUESTION: Thanks. One of the things that Senator Obama talks about a lot is judgment and I'm curious to hear your thoughts on the recent criticism of Mark Penn, who is Hillary's chief strategist, who's been criticized for being somewhat out of touch with reality.
For instance, he circulated a memo about Iowa, saying "Where's the balance," [sic: bounce] and then the next day, there was a 12-point jump for Obama.
CLINTON: He was wrong. He was wrong about that, because the balance [sic] always occurs on the second day, not the first day. It always occurs on the second day, not the first day.
But since you raised the judgment issue, let's go over this again. That is the central argument for his campaign. "It doesn't matter that I started running for president less than a year after I got to the Senate from the Illinois state senate. I am a great speaker and a charismatic figure and I am the only one that had the judgment to oppose this floor [sic: war] from the beginning, always, always, always."
First, it is factually not true that everybody that supported that resolution supported Bush attacking Iraq before the U.N. inspectors withdrew. Chuck Hagel [NE] was one of the co-authors of that resolution, the only Republican Senator that always opposed the war, every day, from the get-go.
He authored the resolution to say that Bush could go to war only if they didn't cooperate with the inspectors and he was assured personally by [then-national security adviser] Condi Rice, as many of the other Senators were. So, first, the case is wrong that way.
Second, it is wrong that Senator Obama got to go through 15 debates trumpeting his superior judgment and how he had been against the war in every year, enumerating the years and never got asked one time, not once, "Well, how could you say that when you said in 2004 you didn't know how you would have voted on the resolution? You said in 2004 there was no difference between you and George Bush on the war and you took that speech you're now running on off your Web site in 2004 and there's no difference in your voting record and Hillary's ever since."
Give me a break.
[applause]
This whole thing is the biggest fairy tale I've ever seen. So you can talk about Mark Penn all you want. What did you think about the Obama thing, calling Hillary the "Senator from Punjab?" Did you like that? Or what about the Obama handout that was covered up, the press never reported on, implying that I was a crook, scouring me, scathing criticism over my financial reports.
[Former independent counsel] Ken Starr spent $70 million and indicted innocent people to find out that I wouldn't take a nickel to see the cow jump over the moon. So you can take a shot at Mark Penn if you want, it wasn't his best day. He was hurt, he felt badly we didn't do better in Iowa.
But, you know, the idea that one of these campaigns is positive and other is negative, when I know the reverse is true and I have seen it and I have been blistered by it for months, is a little tough to take. Just because of the sanitizing coverage that's in the media doesn't mean the facts aren't out there.
[applause]
Otherwise, I do not have any strong feelings about that subject.
[laughter]
Go ahead. I've got to take a question back here and then I -- go ahead.
From Gibbs' article in the February 4 issue of Time:
In their campaign to hand off the presidency one to another, the Clintons have now rotated the virtual vice presidency as well. Hillary's claim to be "ready to lead on Day One" rests on having served as de facto Veep when Bill was in office. Now it's his turn, wielding the hatchet in New Hampshire as he hacked away at the "fairy tale" that is Obama's candidacy and taking Hillary's place in South Carolina so she could focus on Super-Duper Tuesday contests. Some party elders were disturbed enough to tell him to knock it off. Some feminists wondered how satisfying it would be to see the first woman nominated being carried over the finish line by her husband. And Obama himself sounded at times like a man without hope, playing defense in the very game he had promised to end.















I think several things. Campaigns can fairly target their opponents in the primary and in the general election, but most of us WANT fair criticism. Unfair criticism is a voter turn-off. We have short memories. Most campaigns are nasty affairs...and frankly, this will only improve when the country as a whole is more mature. We can blame the candidates, but we should also blame the press; and an uninvolved public. The press is very culpable by spinning what someone said to make it unfair. It's bad enough already!
If it is a choice of my least favorite Democratic candidate, or any of the Republicans, I vote for the Democrat for prez, because the alternative is another neo-con.
Hi Mary. Are you here by yourself? What's a nice girl lke you doing on a two-bit deserted thread like this? You look really nice...oops, somebody else is posting, act cool!
I agree, campaigns are going to get tough, whether inside the party or between the Dems and Repubs in the final elections.I'd like to see a good bi-partisan group put up a website to address both sides' claims, I don't know who would sponsor it.The good and the bad of the internet is that non-corporate opinions get some exposure, but the wingnuts can carpet bomb at such a rate that refuting all of it is pretty close to impossible
Add to that the number of our fellow voters who have decided what they want to hear, and are going to believe it no matter what kind of facts get in their way.
Anyway, yep, campaigns are nasty affairs, and since Lee Atwater (may he R.I.P.) took to outright lying and smearing, Republican tactics have become worse than professional wrestling. Suppressing the vote rather than turning out the vote is what they want.
Meanwhile in most cases, the Dems. want to increase voter turn-out, because if they do, they win elections.
I know that Bill Clinton never called Obama's candidacy a fairy tale - but the way the media has twisted it is not much different that the way that many of Obama's remarks have been twisted by the Clinton's. (The "Reagan ideas" thing for example). Politics is a dirty game.
I feel bad for the Clinton's because they are obviously being railroaded by the media.The handful of Clinton comments that have been twisted by the media - doesn't come close in comparison to the number of media outlets that continue to "pick up" on them and continue to perpetuate the twisted exaggerations or lies.
I was watching a Bill Clinton campaign speech for Hillary on C-Span the other day and couldn't believe the outweighed negative responses from the call-ins after the speech. Most all of them looked at the "Clinton team" as an unfair two-against-one pounding against Obama - and echoed the same talking points (many of them lies) reported by the MSM.
After the SC Democratic Primary election results, and Obamas victory speech, you have to admit that every one of Bill's comments, twisted and spun or not, has come around to bite him in the a$$.
The Clinton's have a big mountain to climb and need a momentum killer that can't be twisted around into Barrack's favor.
Still undecided...
Agreed Clevenative. This is gettiing sooooooooo tiresome. Anything the Clintons say is being twisted and the Republican machine is sooooooo oddly supportive of the Obama campaign that it's confounding. Of course, the party that brought us the Southern Strategy would love to run their candidate against Senator Obama. Sorry fellow Dems, but electability is BIG issue. Kristol, Hume, Limbaugh, et al, are all advocating for Obama and accusing the Clintons of racism, that alone speaks volumes. I am enthusiastic about our entire slate, all the the Dem frontrunners are outstanding and honorable candidates. That's my mantra and should be our party's mantra if we expect to beat the Republicans in November.
Krome & Clevenative, sorry but I seriously doubt that THE MOST gifted politician in the last 40 years has his words twisted around by the media. Bill Clinton is a MASTER when it comes to being a politician. His use of words are well thought out and make no mistake, he wanted this controversy otherwise he would have said something else.
Every single remark uttered by the Clintons is in fact getting unequal scrutiny, but I'm unsure about your assertion that the Repubs would love to run against Obama. Sure Obama never will get the approval of the true right wing, but that group is shrinking and the repub party is divided. The right wing leaders know that running a campaign against Hillary is the best chance they have at uniting the party. Whether you like it or not, HC is a divisive figure and is so easy to demagogue. Obama, on the other hand, really is electrifying and very "likabable." He's the kind of guy that people want to identify with (or "have a beer with").
That being the case, if repubs unfairly attack him, there will be a huge backlash, resulting in massive turnouts not just of dems but with moderate repubs and independents as well. That especially will be the case when, as in 2008, the repub candidates are so boring.
Nonetheless, still I can't believe that BC made those gratuitous comments about Jackson winning the SC primary back in '86 and 88. I don't think he's being calculating, as many in the media claim, but I do think he's "shooting from the hip" and talking a little recklessly
Sheesh, ever try writing a letter and the spell check brings up Obama's name and uses Osama as a suggestion to correct it? I think I'd better write to not only Time but somebody at Windows Vista.
"The whole thing" is the biggest fairly tale? And he only mean the Iraq issue? Maybe so.
But here are two of Bill's fariy tales:
1. Hillar NEVER voted on the Hagel amendment, she voted on the bill supported by Bush. Trying to hide beind Hagel is...a fairy tale, Bill. She never voted on it!
2. Did Obama coin the "Senator from Punjab" title? Actually, it was Hillary herself, and she was using it to compliment herself for her support of India. Trying to say Obama was insulting Hillary be using something she said herself...well that"s a fairy tale Bill.
Maybe Mark Penn told you these shots would work, but the Clinton lying legacy goes on an on and on and on, longer than any fairy tale.