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MSNBC's Scarborough falsely suggested Clinton congratulated Obama only by "paper statement"

January 27, 2008 6:07 pm ET
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SUMMARY: Despite the fact that MSNBC had earlier aired Hillary Clinton saying, "I want to congratulate Senator [Barack] Obama tonight and I want to also thank the people of South Carolina for welcoming us into their homes, and their communities," MSNBC's Joe Scarborough claimed that when Clinton "congratulated Senator Obama, she did it by a paper statement." Further, before Clinton's speech, Bloomberg News columnist Margaret Carlson claimed that the "Clintons don't play by the normal rules," adding: "Where is the grace that we all expect out of losers in campaigns, which is you congratulate in words, not in just a statement, your opponent?" In fact, the statement issued by the Clinton campaign noted that Clinton had "called Senator Obama to congratulate him and wish him well."

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During MSNBC's January 26 coverage of the South Carolina Democratic primary, Morning Joe co-host Joe Scarborough falsely claimed that when Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) "congratulated Senator [Barack] Obama [IL], she did it by a paper statement." In fact, in a portion of a speech MSNBC aired less than 15 minutes earlier, Clinton said, "I want to congratulate Senator Obama tonight and I want to also thank the people of South Carolina for welcoming us into their homes, and their communities." Further, before Clinton's speech, Bloomberg News columnist Margaret Carlson claimed that the "Clintons don't play by the normal rules," adding: "Where is the grace that we all expect out of losers in campaigns, which is you congratulate in words, not in just a statement, your opponent?" In fact, in a written statement issued after Obama's victory -- and read by MSNBC host Keith Olbermann earlier in the evening -- Clinton said that she had "called Senator Obama to congratulate him and wish him well."

Just after 8 p.m. ET, Olbermann read on-air from the Clinton campaign's press release, in which Clinton stated, in part, "I have called Senator Obama to congratulate him and wish him well. Thank you to the people of South Carolina who voted today and welcomed me into their homes over the last year. Your stories will stay with me well beyond this campaign and I am grateful for the support so many of you gave to me." Olbermann introduced the release by asserting, "I don't know if this precludes a speech from Senator Clinton." At roughly 9:40 p.m. ET, correspondent Mike Taibbi, reporting from the site of Clinton's planned speech at Tennessee State University, said that Clinton was "not going to make a formal concession speech here either. That concession has already been made in her statement," adding that Clinton would instead "do her stump speech."

Later in the evening, just prior to Clinton's speech, Olbermann said, "It will be fascinating to see if there's any vague reference to what happened tonight because we're told this is going to be not a concession speech, nothing approaching it." In response, Carlson claimed that "[t]he Clintons don't play by the normal rules," adding: "Where is the grace that we all expect out of losers in campaigns, which is you congratulate in words, not in just a statement, your opponent?" Scarborough, agreeing with Carlson, asserted that "right now it looks like it's the Clintons who just refuse to play by the rules." As MSNBC began to air Clinton's speech live, Scarborough said, "Let's listen to Hillary Clinton right now and see if she has a gracious word to say about Barack Obama."

During the portion of the speech aired by MSNBC, Clinton said, "You know, I want to congratulate Senator Obama tonight, and I want to also thank the people of South Carolina for welcoming us into their homes, and their communities."

After MSNBC cut away from Clinton's speech, rather than note that Carlson's and Scarborough's prediction that Clinton would not congratulate Obama in her speech had been wrong, Olbermann said that "the entire reference to South Carolina" was "was about two-thirds of a sentence in length," adding that the speech "was not, as we were told, it was not going to be a concession speech, and it certainly was not."

Less than fifteen minutes after MSNBC aired the portion of Clinton's speech, Scarborough asserted that "[w]hen she congratulated Senator Obama, she did it by a paper statement and then let her president, her husband, Bill Clinton, go on and on and on." Minutes later, Carlson said that Clinton "didn't look in the camera, as most candidate do on a primary night, and speak into the camera about tonight."

Later, Scarborough said that "we've been talking a good bit about the Clintons tonight, there have been some questions about whether they've been playing by the rules," then read the following statement from a "very top" Clinton campaign aide: "Just to be clear, Hillary Clinton called Senator Obama to congratulate him at 7:01. She issued a statement congratulating him and she has now congratulated him again." Scarborough did not note that both he and Carlson had falsely suggested Clinton had not congratulated Obama in her speech.

From MSNBC's coverage of the South Carolina Democratic primary:

OLBERMANN: Lee Cowan, as the roars begin to echo throughout the room and we're expecting Senator Obama at 9 o'clock, we have now a statement. I don't know if this precludes a speech from Senator Clinton, but her camp released this statement tonight.

"I have called Senator Obama to congratulate him and wish him well. Thank you to the people of South Carolina who voted today and welcomed me into their homes over the last year. Your stories will stay with me well beyond this campaign, and I am grateful for the support so many of you gave to me. We now turn our attention to the millions of Americans who will make their voices heard in Florida and the 22 states as well as American Samoa, who will vote on February 5th." That's how tight this race is; American Samoa is being invoked here.

"In the days ahead, I'll work to give voice to those who are working harder than ever to be heard. For those who have lost their job or their home or their health care, I will focus on the solutions needed to move this country forward. That's what this election is about. It's about our country, our hopes and dreams, our families and our future."

So whether or not that means we're not going to hear from the candidate tonight, after what appears to be a most disappointing second-place finish in South Carolina. Perhaps Mike Taibbi has some idea. He's been covering the Clinton campaign in its destination for tonight, Nashville, Tennessee. Mike, do we know anything about whether or not the senator is going to speak at all?

TAIBBI: Well, we know it's wheels up already, so she's on the way. And since we took the flight earlier today, we know it's only an hour in the air. So she should be here, one would think, by the projected start of 8 o'clock local time, which is an hour behind Eastern time as well.

[...]

OLBERMANN: Mike Taibbi, who is covering the campaign from its latest venue in Nashville, has a little bit more explanation about what Senator Clinton will and will not be saying. Mike?

TAIBBI: Hi, Keith. How are you? Yeah, we heard the stirring oratory of the victor in Senator Obama. We heard a very, very short speech, actually, from former Senator John Edwards, and we understand that Senator Clinton is going to come out here and basically at this town hall meeting at Tennessee State University, do her stump speech, 40 to 45 minutes, not taking any questions from the press afterward. That will wait until tomorrow after she attends a church service at a Baptist church in Memphis. But she's not going to take any questions today, she's not going to make a formal concession speech here either. That concession has already been made in a statement. So she's due to come out here in about two or three minutes. There's a crowd here in this gymnasium that's been somewhat subdued. Much quieter, in fact, than the Tennessee State band, which has been playing the past 45 minutes or so and now resumes playing, I think. Or is that just a cue? In any event, Senator Clinton will be out here in a few minutes to give her stump speech, which we've heard a number of times, and which she gives earnestly and usually to good reception. We'll see what kind of reception she gets here, and we'll see also what her demeanor is like or whether there's anything, any hint in what she says about her plans, about any hint of a change of strategy. Likely not going to be. She's very disciplined on the stump, as you know. We expect to hear the basic speech in a few minutes. Keith?

OLBERMANN: Mike Taibbi in Nashville, where Senator Clinton will speak in a few moments, and we will obviously return to Mike and to Senator Clinton at that moment. Even -- David, that concession statement that was emailed out didn't have a lot to do with the concession or with that campaign. There's one sentence: "I have called Senator Obama," and this is about 8 o'clock tonight, "to congratulate him and wish him well. Thank you to the people of South Carolina who voted today and welcomed me into their homes over the last year. Your stories will stay with me beyond this campaign." The rest of it is now talking about everything else up to and including the vote in American Samoa. People who might not have heard the reading of this originally might have thought we were hyperbolic in some way. There is a reference to the 22 states as well as American Samoa, who will vote on February 5.

[...]

OLBERMANN: It will be fascinating to see if there's any vague reference to what happened tonight because we're told this is going to be not a concession speech, nothing approaching it. It is a remarkable -- I guess only politicians and hockey goaltenders and field goal kickers can do this. Where you just immediately eliminate no matter whatever bad thing just happened to you. You just stop it and more or less flush the thing out.

GREGORY: Joe Scarborough and our panel, thoughts here as we await Senator Clinton?

SCARBOROUGH: Well, yeah, Margaret, let's start with you. She -- she obviously figured out early on that she was not going to be able to follow up Barack Obama. It's like being a Herman's Hermits and being asked to follow the Beatles. It's just ain't going to turn out well, is it?

CARLSON: No, right. And who could top that speech? But, you know, it's back to the rules. The Clintons don't play by the normal rules.

SCARBOROUGH: They don't play by the rules!

CARLSON: Where is the grace that we all expect out of losers in campaigns, which is you congratulate in words, not in just a statement --

SCARBOROUGH: Well, sure.

CARLSON: -- your opponent?

SCARBOROUGH: And the thing is, there is etiquette, but it goes back to Bill Clinton. How ironic that it was Bill Clinton, Gene Robinson, who is saying that "these people had no shame," and yet right now it looks like it's the Clintons who just refuse to play by the rules. Let's listen to Hillary Clinton right now and see if she has a gracious word to say about Barack Obama.

HILLARY CLINTON: Well, I have to thank my friend, State Senator Thelma Harper. Isn't she amazing? And I am so grateful she is one of the leaders of my campaign here in Tennessee, along with Jane Eskin who's here with me, and I thank Jane and her husband, Dick, and former governor Ned Ray McWherter, it is wonderful to have such a broad cross-section of people across this state who are fighting with us for a new future for America. I want to thank Dr. Johnson, thank you so much -- please, Doctor, thank you so much for inviting us and being here with us, you and Mrs. Johnson, thank you very much. I want to thank the band. Were they great? And I want to thank all of you for coming out here tonight. This is an amazing crowd. I am thrilled to be here in Tennessee with all of you. And I'm so happy my daughter Chelsea can be with me tonight. You know, I want to congratulate Senator Obama tonight, and I want to also thank the people of South Carolina for welcoming us into their homes, and their communities. And I want to tell you how excited I am that now the eyes of the country turn to Tennessee and the other states that will be voting on February 5th. And, of course, to the state of Florida that will be voting on Tuesday. So millions and millions of Americans are going to have the chance to have their voices heard and their votes counted. And I can't imagine any place than I'd rather be than right here in Nashville as we kick off the next 10 days. Now, of course, when anybody says the word Nashville, it's always connected with singing. And I promise you, you will not hear a word out of me. I do not want to, in any way, sully the reputation of the music capital by contributing my less-than-meager talents. But it is a great treat to be here with all of you and to have a chance to talk with you, and really, that's what I want to do tonight. I know the crowd is a little bigger than we anticipated but I intended to come -- I intended to come --

OLBERMANN: As we were, not to interrupt Senator Clinton, but we think we heard the entire reference to South Carolina in there, David Gregory. It was about two-thirds of a sentence in length. It was not, as we were told, it was not going to be a concession speech, and it certainly was not. There's a laser-like, full-speed-ahead quality to this candidate that is overwhelming sometimes.

[...]

SCARBOROUGH: A stunning speech, and it was indicative of the type of campaign the Clintons ran in South Carolina. When she congratulated Senator Obama, she did it by a paper statement and then let her president, her husband, Bill Clinton, go on and on and on. Take a look.

BILL CLINTON (video clip): We just finished in South Carolina today. Senator Obama won there. Hillary congratulated him and I join that.

SCARBOROUGH: That was the first three seconds of a 75-minute speech.

[...]

ROBINSON: And it goes to -- look, you know, either one gets the nomination, you and I are going to be raising questions about electibility and looking ahead. That's a big point in Obama's favor, and there are points in Clinton's favor as well.

SCARBOROUGH: And after a week in South Carolina, Tim Russert was talking about possible, quote, "collateral damage." Some harsh words from Jim Clyburn. She split the white male voters, she lost 80 percent of African-American voters, she lost 75 percent of younger voters. Will there be collateral damage for Hillary Clinton moving forward?

CARLSON: I think it's why she didn't look in the camera, as most candidates do on a primary night, and speak into the camera about tonight. Because it was very, very bad for her. In this poll that we talk about tonight, the one where 56 percent think Obama was unfair, 70 percent think Hillary Clinton was. They didn't ask the question about Bill Clinton. Wouldn't you like to know how many voters found him offensive?

[...]

SCARBOROUGH: And I want to give a quick update. We've been talking a good bit about the Clintons tonight. There have been some questions about whether they've been playing by the rules, and of course, Pat Buchanan says there should be no rules. But this from the Clinton campaign, just got this email. "Just to be clear, Hillary Clinton called Senator Obama to congratulate him at 7:01. She issued a statement congratulating him and she has now congratulated him again." And Margaret, to our issue regarding -- let me scroll down here -- our issue regarding Florida, the Clinton campaign aide, well, very top one, says, "Joe, we intend to observe the pledge and not campaign in Florida, but we certainly think that the votes of Florida should and will matter." And let me just say -- and there is Hillary Clinton talking right now -- and let me just say that Republicans in Florida have been squealing with delight for months that the Democratic Party has snubbed Democrats in Florida. So there will be a lot of Democrats, hundreds of thousands of Democrats in Florida, who will be glad that Hillary Clinton is tipping her hat to the Sunshine State, a state which will certainly be, again, one of those important states that will decide who the next president of the United States is. We're going to talk about that with our panel coming up, but right now let's go to Washington and Howard Fineman. Howard, what can you tell us about the delegate count, where it stands now, and what we can expect on Super Tuesday?

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    • Author by 201k (January 27, 2008 6:40 pm ET)
         
      MSNBC seems to exist solely at this point to sink Hillary. They've replaced Faux News as the laughing-stocking of cable news.
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      • Author by Sueelldd (January 27, 2008 9:53 pm ET)
           

        Very true the are a joke.

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      • Author by bjneider (January 29, 2008 1:43 am ET)
           
        I find it soooo depressing to listen to MSNBC political teams.  They are so biased that anyone tuning in to watch a sincere political discourse are innundated with Hillary negatives.  Aren't these people supposed to remain neutral and just report what they observe instead falling all over themselves to diss Clinton.  I realize that Barack is a new phenomena but noone seems to pick out any negatives.  If he is so nice, why does he disrespect Hillary by not even looking in her direction during the debates.  Why did he turn away when Hillary did the admirable thing and shake Senator Kennedy's hand at the State of the Union.  She should have snubbed him for turning his back on her and attacking her in his endorsement of Obama.  Instead, she acted appropriately but there is a picture of Barack literally turning his back to Hillary as reported by the photographer.  It was mentioned in passing by the wonderful prejudice reporters of MSNBC and nothing negative was said.  Imagine, if Hillary did that to Barack, it would be spashed all over the news!!!
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    • Author by conleytgwinn (January 27, 2008 6:44 pm ET)
         
      There must be a line of MSM idiots waiting to tell their personal lie about the Clintons - for there is certainly no pause between liars or lies. Senator Clinton is not my favorite Dem, but she is being cudgelled so constantly by that Corporate Media that I'm now almost sorry I chose to vote against her in Michigan - especially with the State Party assuring me that if I voted for my candidate, the vote would not be counted.
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      • Author by socal7425 (January 27, 2008 6:59 pm ET)
           

        MSNBC's so called coverage of this primary can rightfully be called scandalous.  They have so fallen in love with the idea of Obama that they make no pretense of fairness in their coverage of the Clinton campaign.  On Meet the Press this morning the "analysis" of the primary included Russert and 3 "analysts" unanimously concluding that the "Billary" campaign had behaved very badly and consistently tried to smear Obama.  Are we to conclude that there is only one collective opinion of what happened in South Carolina...is there no one who might have another point of view?  We expect this sort of thing with Fox News but I really thought the others were capable of some sort of objectivity. I think the smart asses at MSNBC have decided they want an Obama/McCain race and by god they'll force it down our throats! 

        Having said all that I do plan to vote for Obama on Feb 5th..in SPITE of the bias I see...but I can enthusiastically support either of the other candidates as well.  I'm just afraid this echo chamber will so sully the outcome that we could end up with another 4 years of Bush on steroids.

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      • Author by tex (January 27, 2008 8:49 pm ET)
           

        They are LYING in ways that are instantly in irrevocably PROVEN as lies.

        Is this just a new level of desperation? Do they actually think they can invent a universe where what they SAY, rather than what is REAL and TRUE, is what people will believe?

        This is a stunning level of hyper-partisanship by the MSM Rightwingers. I'm guessing it keeps getting worse and worse as election day approaches.

        Thank God the blogosphere, including MMFA, is FACT-CHECKING the Media, and finding them to be deceitful way over the top in their Hillary Hatred. 

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    • Author by 1st Republic 14th Star (January 27, 2008 6:52 pm ET)
         

      If any candidate has been tactless and graceless, it's Obama.  When Clinton won in New Hampshire, Obama's surrogates suggested vote fraud.  When Clinton won in Nevada, Obama AND his surrogates suggested voter intimidation.  I don't recall Scarborough or anyone else in the media suggesting that Obama should be more graceful towards Clinton.

      There's a definite double standard at play here -- EVERYTHING Hillary Clinton does is criticized and condemned, and members of the media and her opponents are not above making things up to tear her down.  Obama can say or do almost anything, but is simply NOT held to the same level of scrutiny that Clinton is.

       

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      • Author by jjamele2880 (January 27, 2008 7:28 pm ET)
           

        Absoutely correct- as far as the MSM is concerned, Obama has won two victories on the Strength and Passion of his Inspired Supporters, while Hillary has won two "victories" by choking back tears (NH) or strong-arming defenseless caucus-goers (Nevada.)  Give me a break.  

        I SAW Hillary Clinton concede and congratulate Obama on Saturday night; when Joe Scarborough or anyone else tells me she didn't or was ungracious, I KNOW they are lying because I know what I SAW.  And I'll  remember that they LIED to me the next time I see them tell me ANYTHING.  

        The MSM has tossed away any bit of credibility it had left in the service of destroying Hillary Clinton.   

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    • Author by joseph_b26 (January 27, 2008 7:38 pm ET)
         

      If We See It, Everyone Else Can

       

      I tell you it is getting old. How much to the viewers have to endure? If you change the channel to the other cable news choices, you see and hear the same thing: Hillary Clinton and her husband suck?

      They have even managed to pull Kieth Olbermann into this free for all. Craig Crawford liken it to a mental health disorder because in spite of no proof to the support their claims of racism and dirty politics, this strong wave of negative association exist toward the Clintons.  

      This is Republican sponsored and is designed to split the Democratic vote. Have you noticed how negative the people in both Clinton and Obama camps have become toward each other? It is troubling and we had better pull it together for the general elections because we will need to unite to beat the Republicans. 

      We do have a voice, we can inform the people over at MSNBC, CNN, and Fox news we plan to tell many friends to stop watching their shows until they stop interfering in the Democratic primary process. Their attempt to eliminate Clinton's front runner status for Obama must stop. It is confusing our process. Some will not be able to tell whether Obama worked for his appeal or whether it was given to him by the right-wing media. By hitting these networks in their pockets, maybe they will stop this unfair interference.  

       

      Joseph 

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      • Author by jjamele2880 (January 27, 2008 8:03 pm ET)
           

        Excellent post, you said it better than I ever could.

        In Richard Wright's autobiography, Black Boy, Wright tells us of a story from his youth:  one day a white man walked up to him and told him to "watch out" because another boy he knew was planning to hurt him.  Wright recalls his astonishment at the news: he barely knew the other boy, but they had always been reasonably friendly toward eachother.  But after being warned, he noticed that the other boy was always looking at him strangely, with a mixture of fear and hate in his eyes.

        To make a long story short, the other boy had been told to "watch out" for Richard Wright.  Ultimately, a boxing match is arranged between the two boys, allegedly so that they can work out their "problem," but in fact solely for the pleasure of the whites who created the dispute out of thin air.  In the end, despite their best intentions to refuse to "play the game," Wright and the other boy end up battering eachother while the crowd cheers them on.

        Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are the two boys in a new game of manipulation, with the MSM egging them on.  All the MSM wants is to see these two go after each other and bloody each other beyond recognition. What is good for the country is the farthest thing from their minds.  It's all about what would be entertaining for them.  

        The only question left is, will we join them in cheering on the carnage, or will we demand a stop to this nonsense before we are left with nothing but the tattered remains of a party, ripe for defeat in November? 

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        • Author by joseph_b26 (January 27, 2008 8:30 pm ET)
             

          Thank you for the comment. I have become very interested in seeing your comments as well. You are a truth sayer. You see things for what they are. A simple quality that is so hard to find in today's world of spin and sensationalism. Keep up the good work by writing more. It appears the more you write the better you become at it.

           

          Joseph 

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        • Author by achrispage6992 (January 28, 2008 11:21 am ET)
             

          Which campaign was the first to attempt to marginalize the other using race as an issue? Obama has never ran as a "black" candidate. We have all been reminded of his skin color by the Clintons and the media. That woman is a sure defeat for he party.

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    • Author by hstybuf6553 (January 27, 2008 8:10 pm ET)
         
      I think MSM has decided that obama will be harder to beat than hillary.  I think that is correct.
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      • Author by 1st Republic 14th Star (January 27, 2008 8:15 pm ET)
           
        I think the opposite.  The mainstream media and the Republicans know Hillary Clinton will be harder to beat, so they're pumping up Obama.  After all, according to these jackasses, the Clintons are so ruthless and corrupt they'll stop at nothing, even murder, to carry out their nefarious schemes.
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        • Author by gg (January 27, 2008 11:29 pm ET)
             
          Oh,I don't agree. I think the MSM has been salivating at the prospect of a Clinton candidate because it will galvanize the Republican party which is in the process of imploding; that is why we have been hearing why Hillary is the front runner for the past 12 months. Of course, now that the voting has started it is not working out as they hoped.
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        • Author by young.matthew9801 (January 28, 2008 11:47 am ET)
             
          Are you kidding me? They have 20 years of crap on Hillary, and are salivating at the chance to use it. Why do you think before the Iowa primaries everything you saw was Inevitable Hillary? Because that's who they wanted to run against. 
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    • Author by AJ (January 27, 2008 10:56 pm ET)
         

      I couldn't agree more - I am really frustrated with the media dictating to us who our nominees should be.  They are doing the same thing to Hillary, taking pages from the Fox Noise Playbook, demonizing EVERYTHING Clinton does.  She is under constant scrutiny, and when she does something, the media ends up ratcheting up any tiny little thing and hammering her with it.  Meanwhile, Obama can throw out barbs left and right, and eveyrone acts like, "well, yeah, he has to fight back against the Clintons..."  (I should add, I used to like Obama a lot, but my impression of him has dimmed of late.)  The recent revisionist history about what Obama said regarding Reagan and Republicans, as well as his relationship with Rezko, has been completely downplayed by the national media (I understand the papers in IL are doing more work).  Rather than taking the opportunity to really scrutinize Obama's record, they attack Clinton.  It is reprehensible.

      This is the same thing the media did to Gore and Kerry.  They distorted Gore's comments left and right, yet the PEOPLE saw through it.  Same as now - you would never know it from their reporting, but Clinton is actually LEADING in the delegate count to date!

      I want our candidates to be scrutinized - ALL OF THEM - in as neutral a fashion as possible BEFORE the nominees are chosen, not afterwards when it is too late. 

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    • Author by Bill from Palmdale (January 29, 2008 4:41 am ET)
         

      Didn't Shakespeare say "First kill all the lawyers"?   Today, it should be "First kill all the pundits". 

      Hillary has been leading in nationwide polls for a year.  Hillary 'inevitability' bad. She thinks she's 'entitled'.

      Obama wins big in SC and gets Kennedy endorsement.  Obama 'inevitability' good, very good, excellent.  He IS 'entitled'. 

      They better be careful.  The anti-Hillary campaign may backfire and give her the nomination.  Remember, the public was largely against impeachment of Bill and his job approval rating was in the mid 60% during impeachment.

      In the same way, I think that the more the public hears from Hannity, O'Reilly and Coulter, the more likely they'll vote Democratic.   We should thank them. 

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    • Author by workaboutjohn307 (January 29, 2008 10:31 am ET)
         
      It is very ironic that MSNBC namely Joe S., Chris "tweety" M, Nora O. Kieth O. Tucker C....sigh, the list is too long to name. They use the same tactics, that they so biasly accuse the Clintons of. How many times do they twist the words that are spoken by them? MLK, comes to mind, the whole Reagan ordeal, they never did get what Bill and Hillary were eluding to. Yet for all of their slanting and smearing, the worst in my opinion is claiming  racial discrimination againist Hillary and Bill. For God's sake, what other president of our time moved his offices to Harlem after he left the White House? The truth is, they have done alot to uplift African Americans, as they should. You accuse them of racism and all of a sudden, every African American in America feels the obligation to not support them. Not because its true, just because you accused them of it. I ask that everyone vote for the best candidate, whomever you decide that is for you. Please do not listen to the MSM's distortion of the truth about Bill and Hillary Clinton. For their shortcomings, they have done and continue to do a great service for our Country.
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    • Author by shesgg5014 (January 29, 2008 9:22 pm ET)
         

        The MSNBC commentators are getting obnoxious.  I am going to find another channel to watch during the primaries, I swear.  

        They really are getting to be as low class as Rush with the Clintons bashing.

        Chris apologized for some of it which was good.  Keith Olbermann, Joe Scarborough, David Schuster, Willy Geiss are all sounding like the old Imus in the Morning crew.  Shock jocks.  They could be kind of fun if they weren't so monotously Clinton obsessed. 

        I'm going to try CNN for awhile during the elections.  Maybe they will get rid of that Morning Joe thing while I'm gone. 

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