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Wash. Post falsely claimed "three leading Democrats" in presidential race have "refus[ed] ... to acknowledge the indisputable military progress" in Iraq

January 28, 2008 5:31 pm ET

SUMMARY: Even though Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and John Edwards have all acknowledged that the U.S. military has made progress in reducing the violence in Iraq, a Washington Post editorial asserted that "[t]he refusal of the [three leading Democratic presidential] candidates to acknowledge the indisputable military progress of the past year is troubling."

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A January 27 Washington Post editorial stated that "[t]he refusal of the [three leading Democratic presidential] candidates to acknowledge the indisputable military progress of the past year is troubling," However, contrary to the Post's claim that the three leading Democrats have "refus[ed] ... to acknowledge the indisputable military progress" in Iraq, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY), Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL), and former Sen. John Edwards (D-NC) each have acknowledged that the U.S. military has made progress in reducing the violence in Iraq.

During the January 21 Democratic presidential candidates debate in South Carolina, sponsored by CNN, Clinton asserted, "Of course the surge, the so-called surge, was able to pacify certain parts of Iraq," and added, "If we put enough of our men and women and equipment in, we're going to be able to have some tactical military success. But the whole purpose of the surge was to force the Iraqi government to move quickly towards the kind of resolution that only it can bring about."

During the January 6 CNN/WMUR/Facebook debate, Obama stated, "I had no doubt, and I said at the time, when I opposed the surge, that given how wonderfully our troops perform, if we place 30,000 more troops in there, then we would see an improvement in the security situation and we would see a reduction in the violence." He added, "But understand, we started in 2006 with intolerable levels of violence and a dysfunctional government. We saw a spike in the violence, the surge reduced that violence, and we now are, two years later, back where we started two years ago."

In an interview with The New York Times, published January 1, Edwards acknowledged that "we have had some diminution in violence--no doubt about that." Edwards first explained that he placed greater empahsis on political progress, claiming, "My judgment is that the critical component is not military. The critical component is political." He continued: "Even Bush said when he proposed the surge that the purpose for the surge was to create a security environment that would allow some serious security progress. Well, we have had some diminution in violence -- no doubt about that -- I think in part because Baghdad is largely a Shia city now, and the ethnic groups have been segregated. But, the bottom line is that there has been some diminution in violence and still there has been absolutely no political progress."

From the January 27 Washington Post editorial:

On some issues, the three leading Democrats are almost equally disappointing. On certain topics -- among them trade, school accountability and, most disturbingly, Iraq -- facts and reason have given way to vote-seeking ideology. The refusal of the candidates to acknowledge the indisputable military progress of the past year is troubling; even more so are their suggestions that they would withdraw most or all U.S. troops from Iraq within a year regardless of the circumstances or consequences. They speak as if this strategic, even pivotal Middle East nation, with the world's second-largest oil reserves, can simply be written off, as if a war that they regard as wrong has somehow made Iraq unimportant to U.S. security.

From the January 21 CNN Democratic presidential debate:

CLINTON: Of course the surge, the so-called surge, was able to pacify certain parts of Iraq. If we put enough of our men and women and equipment in, we're going to be able to have some tactical military success. But the whole purpose of the surge was to force the Iraqi government to move quickly towards the kind of resolution that only it can bring about.

I think what is motivating the Iraqi government is the debate in the political campaign here. They know they will no longer have a blank check from George Bush, that I will with draw troops from Iraq. And I believe that will put even more pressure on the Iraqis to finally make the decisions that they have to make.

From the January 6 CNN/WMUR/Facebook debate:

OBAMA: Now, I had no doubt, and I said at the time, when I opposed the surge, that given how wonderfully our troops perform, if we place 30,000 more troops in there, then we would see an improvement in the security situation and we would see a reduction in the violence. But understand, we started in 2006 with intolerable levels of violence and a dysfunctional government. We saw a spike in the violence, the surge reduced that violence, and we now are, two years later, back where we started two years ago. We have gone full circle at enormous cost to the American people.

What we have to do is to begin a phased redeployment to send a clear signal to the Iraqi government that we are not going to be there in perpetuity. Now, it will -- we should be as careful getting out as we were careless getting in. I welcome the genuine reductions of violence that have taken place. Although, I would point out, that much of that violence has been reduced because there was an agreement with tribes in Anbar province, Sunni tribes, who started to see, after the Democrats were elected in 2006, "You know what, the Americans may be leaving soon, and we are going to be left very vulnerable to the Shias. We should start negotiating now." That's how you change behavior.

And that's why I will send a clear signal to the Iraqi government. They will have ample time to get their act together, to actually pass an oil law, which has been -- they've been talking about now for years.

They will actually be able to conduct de-Baathification. We will support them in all of those efforts. But what we can't do is to continue to ignore the enormous strains that this has placed on the American taxpayer as well as the anti-American sentiment that it is fanning and the neglect that's happening in Afghanistan as a consequence.

From an interview with Edwards published January 1 in The New York Times:

Q. One of the most comprehensive studies on this was done in September by General Jim Jones.

A. I know General Jones.

Q. And he looked at this and said the Iraqi security forces cannot stand entirely on their own in the next twelve to eighteen months and that for the foreseeable future they would depend on air support, logistics, intelligence -- these sorts of enablers that are provided by the Americans. Wouldn't your plan essentially pull the rug out from underneath the nascent Iraqi security force while we are trying to transfer more responsibility onto their shoulders?

A. I think it is a fair question. My judgment is that the critical component is not military. The critical component is political. Even Bush said when he proposed the surge that the purpose for the surge was to create a security environment that would allow some serious security progress. Well, we have had some diminution in violence -- no doubt about that -- I think in part because Baghdad is largely a Shia city now, and the ethnic groups have been segregated. But, the bottom line is that there has been some diminution in violence and still there has been absolutely no political progress. And the reason is because America continues to stay there and prop up these political leaders who are making no serious effort to make progress.

The fundamental tenet of the way I examine and make policy judgments, which is the job of the president, under these circumstances is that is not my job to make day-to-day military decisions on the ground. It is my job is to set the policy priorities, and I believe is that the correct policy framework is that what we have been doing is not working. We have to shift the responsibility to them.

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    • Author by worrierking (January 28, 2008 5:35 pm ET)
         
      "Indisputable military progress"?

      Taken to it's logical conclusion, no matter how much progress they make, without political progress, our military will be still occupiers and targets.

      And where are we going to get the troops to continue with the "successful" surge?
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      • Author by Sams Computer (January 28, 2008 7:39 pm ET)
           
        ..." To Acknowledge The Indisputable Military Progress" IN IRAQ????"

        ONE CITY IS NOT IRAQ!!!
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    • Author by johnny_nyc8351 (January 28, 2008 5:40 pm ET)
         
      No they've actually acknowledged it and tried to put it in the proper perspective.

      Military progress is only part of the equation, unless you don't mind having troops in Iraq for 100 years like John McCain.

      The long term solution is political and only the Iraqis can get that done
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    • Author by nerzog (January 28, 2008 5:42 pm ET)
         
      Just how "indisputable" is it? Like those "indisputable" WMDs? Or the "indisputable" connection between Saddam and Al Qaeda? Since our Corporate Lapdog press won't do anything resembling investigative reporting, we have to take the Pentagon's word for it. And we KNOW the Pentagon would never lie to us, don't we?
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    • Author by nerzog (January 28, 2008 5:53 pm ET)
         
      Could it be that they've just put a lid on the reporting so that Iraq is off the table as an issue in this year's election? They got caught fudging the numbers in the months leading up to Petraeus's report... who's to say they wouldn't do it again?

      Maybe things really are much better... I certainly hope so. Just pardon me if I don't trust this gang of war criminals to tell us the truth.
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      • Author by bittermarv (January 28, 2008 7:23 pm ET)
           

        As long as you forget what the original intent and goal of "the surge" was, you don't have to put a lid on reporting the slowdown in violence.  That slowdown was predictable, but it was never the end in itself.  The predictable slowdown in violence was supposed to give the Iraqi government an opportunity to get things under control, and a series of benchmarks were set up to measure how well they did.  They failed miserably.

        So great, the surge succeeded in slowing violence.  So would killing every Iraqi.  But both solutions have serious drawbacks. 

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    • Author by wzwriter (January 28, 2008 6:02 pm ET)
         
      Has the Washington Post contracted out its editorial writing to the Washington Times?
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (January 28, 2008 6:40 pm ET)
         

      We're only gonna have to stay in Iraq for another Fifty Years! Hooray...! Progress...! 

       

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      • Author by foghornleghorn (January 29, 2008 10:13 am ET)
           
        According to McCain, we might be staying till the end of the century.
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    • Author by lindenbully (January 28, 2008 7:54 pm ET)
         

      Maverick, I feel the urge to SURGE!!  Danger Zone be damned!!

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    • Author by laughinglefty (January 28, 2008 8:05 pm ET)
         
      The only real success of the "Surge" is that the Corporate Media have stopped reporting on US troop deaths. 38 this month, up from last month. You wouldn't know that from any of the Corporate Media outlets without searching with a fine tooth comb. In the long years of the occupation of Iraq, casualties have always fallen in the winter. They'll be back up again in the spring and summer. The truth is, even though there has been an overall decline in casualties, it can't be traced back to the "Surge" but rather it's the result of temporarily co-opting Sunni and Shiite insurgents.
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      • Author by MickD (January 28, 2008 9:20 pm ET)
           
        Yes, soldiers are still dying but the surge has "worked." If that number becomes "zero" that will be the only time it works. Other than that, as long as the chaplains are visiting the homes and giving the news of another lost soul, then the surge means nothing. Who will be the last to die for this mistaken occupation?

        Johnny "Maverick" McCain, along with his embarrassing flack jacket Baghdad market tour, is signing on to BushieCo's propaganda and spreading it nicely.
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        • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (January 28, 2008 11:46 pm ET)
             
          Right, MIck. They've put a lot of creativity into this charade, and all they ask in return is that everybody acknowledges that it's real.Is that too much to ask?
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        • Author by nerzog (January 29, 2008 1:04 pm ET)
             
          The amazing part, for me, is that almost nobody is willing to call it a mistake. The GOP Flying Monkey Liars have done such a good job of browbeating everyone with charges of "not supporting the troops" that very few in the press and NOBODY in government is willing to speak the truth which really IS indisputable...invading Iraq was probably the biggest foreign policy blunder and/or crime of the past 100 years.
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    • Author by dangrady (January 29, 2008 11:02 am ET)
         

      SAVE DEMOCRACY, VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT!!

      Let's explain for the Bush/Cheney/Neo-Con impaired what success would have been, and what it is not.

      When the Draft-Dodger got in his little flight suit and swaggered on the aircraft carrier to tell a world that America was victorious was all the victory lap the President was really entitle to, but they managed to thump their chests all the way to re-election. That is what success looks like to the Republican.

      De-Baathafication, disbanding the Army, and dismantling the old bureaucracy to leave Baghdad looted, demoralized, and left adrift with 200,000 angry armed unemployed soldiers. This looked like Haliburton style success.

      3. $1 trillion dollars consumed by the systematic privatization of the military with contractors whom are political allies building permanent bases, a historic sized embasy, and the President making illegal treaties without Congressional approval so that their gravy train will be dolling out long after the Bush/Chaney cabal is gone. This is a Republican success.

      What it is not is a strategy that does anything to enhance American interests what so ever.

      Happy Thoughts;

      Dan Grady 

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      • Author by nerzog (January 29, 2008 11:30 am ET)
           
        Well said. I had similar thoughts last night as I watched the Liar In Chief stick his thumb in our eye one more time, with that grinning slug Cheney lurking behind him. They've won. The spineless Democratic Congress will not investigate their lies, their war crimes, or their looting of the treasury; impeachment is off the table.... they will not be held accountable for what they've done.
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    • Author by Hoagie (January 29, 2008 3:50 pm ET)
         

      MEDIA MATTERS has refused to post our past replies from FairTax.org so here is another try with apologies for being off topic.

      As a matter of Media Matters policy a reasoned answer to Media Matters misunderstanding of the FairTax has been rejected for posting.  Hmm? If a media outlet gets it wrong, it's OK to work to set the record straight but if Media Matters gets it wrong, corrections are not welcomed. Kinda of sounds like a propagandist's ethic.

      So let's try again--off topic, of course, because comments have been closed for the Huck piece on Friday that once again got it wrong on the FairTax substance and design.

      The FairTax distributional benefits go primarily to the poor (14% improvement in tax burdens), the middle class (7% reductions) and some benefit remains even for the the wealthy (5% reductions). How can this be and keep tax collections revenue neutral?

      Because the taxpayer base is broadened by taxing consumption instead of earnings (illegal immigrants and the $1.5 trillion annual underground economy). In addition, the wealthy pay a 23% rate on consumption--instead of a 15% rate on capital gains. A broader base means more revenues from more people. A tax on consumption means those who spend more, pay higher taxes.

      In addition--and ignored by Media Matters and a host of income tax defenders,--the highly regressive FICA tax is eliminated (you know, the one that represents the largest tax payments by poor and moderate income taxpayers). The prebate--based on family size, not income--and the elimination of the highly regressive FICA tax makes the FairTax far more progressive than the income tax system.

      Is it 23% or 30%? If expressed as are income tax rates, it's 23%. If expressed exclusive of the base (like most sales taxes) it's 30%. And yes, on everything new. But the combination of taking home a paycheck without FEDERAL withholding or FICA taxes deducted, the monthly prebate (reimburses all federal taxes on spending up to the povery level) and the reduction in retail prices (or wage growth) as income tax costs are eliminated let's consumers come out ahead compared to the the current tax system.

      And by the way, The president's Tax Panel did NOT find the FairTax would require a higher rate than proponents argue. They created their own consumption tax--loaded it with exemptions they felt were "realistic", ignored the elimination of FICA taxes (as defined in existing legislation) and then declared their own creation flawed. This "anlysis" has since been cited widely--including by Media Matters-- as "proof" the FairTax is regressive and requires a higher rate to be revenue neutral.

      These would all be fair game for an honest debate--if only Media Matters would allow such a free-wheeling discussion. Instead, the debate has been squelched to protect the Washington interests who thrive on class warfare, become powerful manipulating the tax system and grow rich selling off pieces of the tax code to favored clients and Congressional contributors. Oh yes, to also protect the public from ideas that differ from the MM official conclusions. Laughable really if not so far from the ethic of the First Amendment.

      Media matters, sure. So does honesty and trust in the public to sort through public policy matters if only given the chance to hear all sides of the issues of the day. Scary, huh? The very thought that it is both sides of the debate that really matter--not the "final" word by those with an ax to grind.

      Let's see if MM editors are honest and brave enough to allow this post.

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