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Scarborough on Giuliani: "America's Mayor ... will endorse John McCain"

January 30, 2008 4:19 pm ET
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SUMMARY: On Morning Joe and MSNBC Live, Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski referred to Rudy Giuliani as "America's Mayor," in the context of Giuliani's departure from the presidential race and reported endorsement of Sen. John McCain. Media figures have repeatedly touted Giuliani's reputation as "America's Mayor" since the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, despite criticism over his actions before and after the attacks.

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On the January 30 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe, co-host Joe Scarborough continued to refer to former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani as "America's Mayor," this time in the context of Giuliani's departure from the 2008 presidential race and reported endorsement of Sen. John McCain's (R-AZ) presidential bid. Co-host Mika Brzezinski also used the term "America's Mayor" to describe Giuliani.

Media figures have repeatedly touted Giuliani's reputation as "America's Mayor" since the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, despite criticism over his actions before and after the attacks. Media Matters for America recently released a video compilation of references to Giuliani as "America's Mayor" by Fox News anchors, correspondents, and contributors.

From the January 30 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe:

SCARBOROUGH: Of course, last night, John McCain, a decisive victory. I would say five points is a decisive victory.

BRZEZINSKI: That would be decisive. And it looked close, you know, going through the night, it looked like it could be close, but then here we go.

SCARBOROUGH: All the exit polls showed -- and we get these exit polls before you, the teeming masses, have any idea who's going to win. We know who's going to win, and we go in the back room and laugh --

BRZEZINSKI: Yes.

SCARBOROUGH: -- that we know something you don't know. Well, the exit polls were telling us actually that last night was too close to call, McCain by one percentage point -- had no idea which way it was going to break. But John McCain, a five-point win.

BRZEZINSKI: Yes.

SCARBOROUGH: And I'll tell you what, the county that was the most interesting county: Miami-Dade.

BRZEZINSKI: Yeah?

SCARBOROUGH: The southern-most, most populous county. Mitt Romney got absolutely trounced there.

BRZEZINSKI: Gosh.

SCARBOROUGH: It was John McCain that carried it away. Now, look at this picture.

BRZEZINSKI: Let me see.

SCARBOROUGH: I've learned something about New Yorkers. Here you have a picture of the winner and a picture of the loser.

BRZEZINSKI: Ohh.

SCARBOROUGH: And the picture of the loser, Rudy Giuliani --

BRZEZINSKI: He has a sad face on.

SCARBOROUGH: He's got his sad face on, and you see the frown there. But what's so interesting is, since it became obvious last night that Rudy Giuliani was going to get out of this race, all the New Yorkers that have been kicking him for the past year -- you know, you start kicking him a little too much and they stop, because, you know, he's a fellow New Yorker. And, you know, they stop and they get a little upset, and they're, "You know, he was America's Mayor."

BRZEZINSKI: Now they feel sorry for him?

SCARBOROUGH: Yeah, well, you told me you felt a little sorry for him.

BRZEZINSKI: Well, I just didn't like the sad-face picture. I just thought -- you know, I don't know. But it's interesting, because as we sit here in New York City, which is, of course, Rudy Giuliani's stomping ground.

SCARBOROUGH: We're at Maxie's.

BRZEZINSKI: At Maxie's, which is a fabulous place.

SCARBOROUGH: Boy, this is -- right around the corner from 30 Rock, which is where we always come and smoke outside.

BRZEZINSKI: But we should mention that America's Mayor is going to be endorsing --

SCARBOROUGH: He's going to be endorsing this guy.

BRZEZINSKI: -- the now-front-runner.

SCARBOROUGH: John McCain.

From the 9 a.m. ET hour of the January 30 edition of MSNBC Live:

SCARBOROUGH: After a bad showing in Florida last night, Rudy Giuliani aides say America's Mayor will be leaving the race, and he will endorse John McCain this afternoon in California.

BRZEZINSKI: Hmm, things are heating up.

SCARBOROUGH: Yeah, they are.

BRZEZINSKI: Let's bring in David Lombino, city editor for The New York Sun. First of all, America's Mayor dropping out --

SCARBOROUGH: What happened?

BRZEZINSKI: -- are you surprised at this point? I mean, you write this -- you write in a paper that probably has focused on him over the years.

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    • Author by IRONY 101 (January 30, 2008 4:24 pm ET)
         

      America's Mayor?

      Well, maybe that explains why Giuliani turned out to be such a loser in Presidential politics. America needs a President...not a freakin' mayor.

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      • Author by atheist (January 30, 2008 5:07 pm ET)
           
        Is America's Mayor going to become America's VP ?
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        • Author by nativeofsf (January 31, 2008 12:33 am ET)
             
          Does that mean Rudy gets to use a shotgun?
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          • Author by wolfbato (January 31, 2008 11:25 am ET)
               
            America's Journalist said what?
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          • Author by wolfbato (January 31, 2008 11:25 am ET)
               
            As far as I'm concerned Joe the "Journalist" threatened a co-worker, at the work place with bodily harm. And a woman at that. This is unacceptable ... period!!!

            I urge everybody to contact MSNBC at letters@msnbc.com and urge them to fire JOE immediately.
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    • Author by jeter2 (January 30, 2008 4:24 pm ET)
         

      Scarborough on Giuliani: "America's Mayor ... will endorse John McCain"  

      What's the MIS-information here?

      Oh wait I think I know...

      Joe should have said:

      America's Mayor is endorsing The Maverick.

      God this is sickning...

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      • Author by watershed (January 30, 2008 4:46 pm ET)
           

        Good thing Scarborough is a journalist, because otherwise I might think his use of the phrase "America's Mayor" is some kind of endorsement.

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        • Author by philib (January 31, 2008 8:27 am ET)
             
            Good thing there is mmfa, otherwise no one would know about any of the right wing pundits they keep complaining about. Keep up the good work and give free promotions to all the right wingers you can, mmfa!! Who the heck is scarbourough?!? While the right wingers sound funny and delightful during these threads, the left wingnuts all sound bitter and resentful. That sure will transform the average American over to your side, won't it?  "Join us, we're the party of hate and death, but we hate right wing pundits so that makes us better!" Would that slogan work? Maybe a little too long.
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          • Author by mary59 (January 31, 2008 11:09 am ET)
               

            Your delivery is a little slow for a real good right wing talker.  Try shorter, pithier sentences:  "Bill Clinton slops hogs" etc.  Righties think that stuff is real funny.  Good luck in your new career.

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    • Author by tex (January 30, 2008 4:34 pm ET)
         

      How about:

      "In PRESIDENTIAL BID, FAILED WARMONGER endorses WARMONGER doing better with the GOP BASE."

      Truth in commentary. 

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    • Author by mary59 (January 30, 2008 4:36 pm ET)
         
      Julie annie can now safely pack up his 9/11 pin and slither off into the night, then emerge to make lots of money as a corporate lobbyist.
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    • Author by nerzog (January 30, 2008 4:42 pm ET)
         
      The scariest comment I heard at some point in all the coverage was that Huckleberry was staying in the race to siphon religious fanatic votes from Romney. In return, they speculated, McCain would name Huckleberry as his VP. Yikes! That puts mister God's Law a heartbeat away from the presidency... under the oldest President in history! Lordy, Lordy.
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      • Author by mary59 (January 30, 2008 4:51 pm ET)
           

        McCain/Huckabuck?  What a totally weird combo.  Their campaign could be filmed for a modern Twilight Zone episode...

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      • Author by worrierking (January 30, 2008 4:53 pm ET)
           
        Have you been reading my mind again?

        I've been waking up nights worrying about that very scenario.

        Huckabee should stick with his guitar playing and wait for the rapture.
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        • Author by eweston8542983 (January 30, 2008 5:08 pm ET)
             

          While I'm glad to see a fellow bass player in the presidential campaign. I have it on good authority that all bass player's are insane.

          Course taking it to the next level and electing someone who is insane does have a certain chachet. You wouldn't have to wonder about about his mental status. Which can save alot of time and rhetoric.

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      • Author by jeter2 (January 30, 2008 4:57 pm ET)
           
        Sgt. Carter & Private Gomer Pyle running the country. Kill me now!
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        • Author by worrierking (January 30, 2008 4:59 pm ET)
             
          Thought you might like this Jeter.

          http://carbolicsmokeblog.blogspot.com/2008/01/vietnam-returns-remains-of-gomer-pyle.html
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    • Author by Sueelldd (January 30, 2008 4:55 pm ET)
         

      Oh the horror that Scarborugh has called Rudy Americas Mayor. My God its a travesty. We need a thread about it.  Lets hope Olbermann mentions this tonight and names Scarborugh "WPITW"

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      • Author by watershed (January 30, 2008 5:04 pm ET)
           

        Huh?

         You could've said something more insightful and relevant, like say, "purple monkey dishwasher".

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      • Author by dave_chicago (January 30, 2008 5:16 pm ET)
           
        Thank you, America's Olbermann Obsessive.
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      • Author by edenscape246494 (January 30, 2008 5:20 pm ET)
           

        Again, Sue, are you that bitter ?

        It was high school, Keith didn't want to dance, get over it already it's embarassing.

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    • Author by tommy (January 30, 2008 5:02 pm ET)
         

      Giulianis "America's Mayor.

      McCains "Maverick".

      Both have become part of the political vernacular and lexicon, it's part of the media labeling everyone for graphic's sake and cutesy name-callling.  Nobody is swayed by it, nobody is turned on by it, nobody is affected by it, nobody really cares.  It ain't goin' away.

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      • Author by watershed (January 30, 2008 5:09 pm ET)
           

        On the contrary, the many people who don't find it "cutsey", who actually find it troubling, they are the ones who won't go away.

        Keep calling the media out, MMFA. It works.

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        • Author by tommy (January 30, 2008 5:10 pm ET)
             
          It sure does.  Nobody dares use those names to describe these guys anymore, it's practically obsolete.
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          • Author by watershed (January 30, 2008 5:16 pm ET)
               

            Your attempts to belittle the role of corporate media bias in politics is what's "cute", Tommy. You are truly a dinosaur.

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            • Author by tommy (January 30, 2008 5:19 pm ET)
                 
              Of course, now I get it.  It's about corporate media bias again!!  Isn't everything?  Silly me.
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              • Author by watershed (January 30, 2008 5:20 pm ET)
                   
                Adorable.
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              • Author by edenscape246494 (January 30, 2008 5:23 pm ET)
                   

                If the names didn't hold meaning then the site doesn't need to exist.

                What's the media's pet name for Obama? Oh, that's right, Hussein.

                How about Hillary?  Oh, that's right, b*tch.

                I'll make you a deal.  As soon as Dems gets fun, career boosting nicknames from the press like the Righties do we'll all shut up about it.  Until then that is why we are all here.

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                • Author by watershed (January 30, 2008 5:31 pm ET)
                     

                  Some of us, God knows why, are self-appointed watchmen of their own definition of MMFA's "mission", but yes, for the most part, most of us are here to keep tabs on media bias. The ubiquitous nickname "America's Mayor" absolutely qualifies.

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                • Author by tommy (January 30, 2008 5:31 pm ET)
                     

                  Perhaps the Republicans need these "career boosting nicknames" because their proposals and visions are sorely lacking in substance with the American people, and the Democrats don't need to concern themselves with something so blatantly silly as this, instead they are concentrating on issues and policy, not pet names given them, or not, by the media.

                  Too bad you don't have that kind of faith in your candidates that you need a share of the cute "career boosting nicknames" for your guys and gals too.  Is that the case? 

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                  • Author by watershed (January 30, 2008 5:43 pm ET)
                       

                    This thread is about the obvious media biases behind the nickname "America's Mayor", not a discussion of either party's strengths and weaknesses. Try and keep on topic.

                    Also, Democrats of course are concentrating on policy and issues, many people can do more than one thing at one time, Tommy. But that, too, isn't the discussion here. Media bias is.

                    Specifically, the name "America's Mayor" and the subtext behind it.

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                  • Author by edenscape246494 (January 30, 2008 7:03 pm ET)
                       

                    Are you just being coy Tommy?

                    Its an uneven playing field, I don't care if it's f'n tiddly winks I want a fair match.  This is for the nuclear football, pretty high stakes.  So yes, if I can have career boosting, legend building nicknames repeated ad nauseum in the press I'd like that edge and good exposure.  I'd also like my voters referred to as True Americans or Patriot voters or maybe heart voters. 

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                    • Author by philib (January 31, 2008 8:17 am ET)
                         

                         "Uneven playing field", puleaze! Give me a break. Are you just setting up something to whine about when you lose another election?? I seem to remember the last time True Americans and Patriots voted you called them 'disenfranchised'. What will you call them this time?

                        And b*tch is as career building as Hilary can expect. She has, afterall, spent her career being one. But, I don't think I've ever read a paper that calls Barack- Hussein.

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                      • Author by mary59 (January 31, 2008 11:13 am ET)
                           

                        Never reading a paper is a good strategy, Phil.

                        And of course it's so amazing that you can sum up Hillary's career with a misogynistic slur.  You certainly have studied her accomplishments by listening to Limbaugh.

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      • Author by jjamele2880 (January 30, 2008 6:26 pm ET)
           

        And there we have it, folks: Tommy's "why is this here, get over it" post of the evening.

        Thanks Tommy, I was beginning to worry you had fallen asleep or something. 

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    • Author by dave_chicago (January 30, 2008 5:25 pm ET)
         

      How can it possibly be misinformation to call Rudy Americasmayor(tm)?!

      Certainly it isn't media laziness or dumb, thoughtless adherence to an accepted label that no one ever bothers to question (see "maverick") now can it?

      For sure it isn't a sly attempt by Rudy-backers and right-wingers to push forth the notion of Rudy as A Mayor We All Love and Admire. 

      If nothing else, Rudy's string of primary successes only proves that he deserves the title, as if proof was needed.

       

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    • Author by eniobob2631 (January 30, 2008 5:56 pm ET)
         
      Fifty million spent.One delegate gained.Makes sense to me.
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    • Author by pointofview (January 31, 2008 8:04 am ET)
         

      Oh NOOOOOOOOO

      I am watching Morning Joe Right NOWWWW  and he has used the term America's Mayor several times.  I think each time deserves its own thread.  This corporate   abuse and miss  info must stop.  Life as we know it is at risk.  Tommy.....what should we do??

       

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    • Author by IRONY 101 (January 31, 2008 9:11 am ET)
         

      If Rudy Giuliani didn't have such a lucrative lobbying career ahead of him I could picture him in a traveling tent show, a la Buffalo Bill, recreating for wide-eyed rednecks his purported heroics on 9/11...ending with Rudy finishing off Mohammed Atta with a pistol after a chase through the smoldering rubble of the Twin Towers. 

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      • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (January 31, 2008 10:37 am ET)
           
        That's not a bad idea, Irony. If the live show's a hit, it could eventually be a Fox Documentary.
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      • Author by worrierking (January 31, 2008 10:48 am ET)
           
        I like it.

        After the show, he can remove the pee smell from the seats the bedwetters were sitting in.
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