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Savage on possibility of Obama nomination: "Think John F. Kennedy Jr. ... and the airplane. Think the Mena airport"

February 01, 2008 7:51 pm ET
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On the January 31 broadcast of The Savage Nation, host Michael Savage asserted, "Look, [Sen. Barack] Obama's [D-IL] not getting the nomination. If he does, I wouldn't -- well, let me just stop right there. Think John F. Kennedy Jr. and the Hyannis -- and the airplane. Think the Mena airport."

In July 1999 *, a small plane piloted by John F. Kennedy Jr., who was accompanied by his wife and sister-in-law, disappeared en route to Hyannis Port, Massachusetts, for a wedding. Debris from the plane was later found washed ashore off Martha's Vineyard. Conspiracy theorists have baselessly suggested that Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton played a role in the crash so she could run for the U.S. Senate seat in New York that Kennedy was allegedly planning to pursue.

In the mid-1990s, unsubstantiated rumors circulated that the CIA, with former President Bill Clinton's knowledge, had used the Intermountain Regional Airport in Mena, Arkansas, in the 1980s to smuggle weapons to the Contras in Nicaragua and bring illegal drugs back to the United States. Conspiracy theories regarding Mena airport have baselessly implicated Clinton, and some have gone so far as to suggest that Bill and Hillary Clinton were involved in the deaths of individuals connected to the smuggling.

From the January 31 edition of Talk Radio Network's The Savage Nation:

SAVAGE: You got plenty of Harassmussens [Rasmussen] here in talk radio, get it wrong every day and yet keep getting quoted in the media. You got Bill Bennett, the drug czar, suddenly being quoted because he's been wrong about everything for so long that even that dinosaur is being talked about because it's a conspiracy to let you think that [Sen. John] McCain [R-AZ] is a justifiable candidate. So they're all part and parcel to the same spectrum. Harassmussen gets it wrong, but he's quoted anyway by the media. So, what do you want to do, move to Dubai? What a country -- what a nation that's becoming.

Look, Obama's not getting the nomination. If he does, I wouldn't -- well, let me just stop right there. Think John F. Kennedy Jr. and the Hyannis -- and the airplane. Think the Mena airport. Let's put it to you that way, for those of you who have a political memory. He's just not going there. He's not getting it. The machine won't permit it. You know, the guys from Uzbekistan won't even permit it -- never mind, you know, the Clinton machine.

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    • Author by megabot (February 01, 2008 7:53 pm ET)
         
      Sounds like a death threat to me!
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      • Author by matrixbio2014 (February 02, 2008 12:41 pm ET)
           

        Not necessarily a death threat, but a death-suggestion.  He openly preaches on his show that he is trying to change things, get people to "wake up".  And after they "wake up" they are supposed to go out and cleanse the US for the white male who has "lost his testosterone."  One doesn't have to listen very long to understand that he doesn't want to do the dirty work of carrying out killings or hate crimes himself, but he wants to inflame others to do them.  He will then sit back and collect his multimillion dollar income each year while picking out new targets for the lower-income people (ie - those who feel left out and need to blame immigrants, minorities, feminists for their woes) who adore him.  Routinely, callers call in and ask him "tell us what to do."  Well, he's telling them with comments like these.

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    • Author by snoopy (February 01, 2008 7:58 pm ET)
         
      He's just deflecting. Everyone knows it will be the right wing that takes a shot or two should Obama win.
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    • Author by pawsie444 (February 01, 2008 8:07 pm ET)
         
      under what logic..... goodness.. this guy needs to go. some of his viewers WANT obama..
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    • Author by eweston8542983 (February 01, 2008 8:18 pm ET)
         
      People willingly watch Mikie? It takes all kinds. Does it take a village?
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    • Author by Sueelldd (February 01, 2008 8:46 pm ET)
         
      I think the Secret Service should pay a visit to Mr Weiner.
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      • Author by philib (February 02, 2008 8:51 am ET)
           
           Why?  Because having a conspiricay theory against a power hungry democrat doesn't make sense? But, a conspiracy theory that Bush started a war for oil profits does? Maybe...just maybe both conspiracy theories are correct!
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        • Author by foghornleghorn (February 02, 2008 9:33 am ET)
             

          Ok Phil, I'll play along.  Let's release the minutes of Cheney's secret energy meetings.  Then maybe we will know once and for all if this was a war for oil.

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          • Author by philib (February 02, 2008 2:02 pm ET)
               
            You mean President Cheney's meeting that determined we go to war? The one where all the opposition leaders denied knowing the dangers of Hussein?
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        • Author by deeznuts (February 02, 2008 1:14 pm ET)
             

          a conspiracy theory that Bush started a war for oil profits

          At least that theory is supported by overwhelming evidence. 

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        • Author by solon (February 03, 2008 8:47 pm ET)
             

          Conspiricy theory? Please.

          http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/09/60minutes/main592330.shtml

          As treasury secretary, O'Neill was a permanent member of the National Security Council. He says in the book he was surprised at the meeting that questions such as "Why Saddam?" and "Why now?" were never asked.

          "It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this,’" says O’Neill. “For me, the notion of pre-emption, that the U.S. has the unilateral right to do whatever we decide to do, is a really huge leap.”

          And that came up at this first meeting, says O’Neill, who adds that the discussion of Iraq continued at the next National Security Council meeting two days later.

          He got briefing materials under this cover sheet. “There are memos. One of them marked, secret, says, ‘Plan for post-Saddam Iraq,’" adds Suskind, who says that they discussed an occupation of Iraq in January and February of 2001.


          Based on his interviews with O'Neill and several other officials at the meetings, Suskind writes that the planning envisioned peacekeeping troops, war crimes tribunals, and even divvying up Iraq's oil wealth.

          He obtained one Pentagon document, dated March 5, 2001, and entitled "Foreign Suitors for Iraqi Oilfield contracts," which includes a map of potential areas for exploration.

          “It talks about contractors around the world from, you know, 30-40 countries. And which ones have what intentions,” says Suskind. “On oil in Iraq.”

          It is a whole lot more than a conspiricy theory. Even Alan Greenspan said he wishes they could just say what everyone knows that Iraq was about oil. If you REALLY believe that if Iraqs major export was artichokes we would be there you are delusional.

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    • Author by thedailyphosdex (February 01, 2008 8:48 pm ET)
         

      And what exactly fuels Michael Savage's paranoia?

      Fear, perhaps, that The Shadow, The Green Hornet, The Green Lama or similar might sneak into his studio and expose Savage as a liar and coward?

      Fear of possible parallels to Fr. Charles Coughlin?

      Intemperate habits, perhaps?

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    • Author by dazedandconfused26 (February 01, 2008 10:06 pm ET)
         

      Sounds like the wishfull thinking of a racist who cant stand the idea that a black guy could possibly win the presidency.

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    • Author by funnymanpants (February 01, 2008 11:32 pm ET)
         

      Yup, Savage is a lunatic.

      I don't think he was making any death threat. I just think he likes to traffic in innuendo, and his fan base (the racist Finfarin, and numbered John among them) are too stupid to know fact from fiction.  

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      • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (February 02, 2008 1:52 am ET)
           
        I wasn't even aware of theHillary/JFK jr. tin foil hat contingent.If HRC is elected president, those Islamofascists are gonna freak. Wife, mother, senator, and cold blooded killing machine. How can the Cons not love her?
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        • Author by philib (February 02, 2008 8:58 am ET)
             

          "Wife, mother, senator, and cold blooded killing machine. How can the Cons not love her?"

             I think because conservatives don't like cold blooded killers. However, liberals love them. They keep them from being executed daily. That is why she chose the liberal party and not the conservative party. She, like all other liberals, hate personal accountability.

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          • Author by deeznuts (February 02, 2008 1:16 pm ET)
               

            I think because conservatives don't like cold blooded killers.

            Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaha

            *gasp*

            baaaaahahahahahaha...

            Oh. My. God.

            Thanks dude. I needed that.

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          • Author by mefirst (February 02, 2008 9:02 pm ET)
               
            i do not love "cold blooded killers".  in fact, i was happy when ted bundy went bye-bye.  what i do not love though,  is a system that cannot seem to differentiate between guys like him and someone convicted solely on "eyewitness identification", which has been proven to be wrong at least half the time.   when over 200 people have been released based on dna evidence reversing their convictions, and taking into account that dna evidence does not exist in most cases,  i think it is safe to say that the system is far from perfect.  unless you are saying that as long as somebody, anybody, is executed for a crime, you're happy. 
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          • Author by H-Man (February 03, 2008 8:09 am ET)
               

            Where is your personal accountability for the people who have been falsely accused of capital murder and have been sentenced on death row? And before you start on the typical "there is no proof anyone has been wrongly convicted" garbage. Just think, in Illinois, half of the people placed on death row have been released from prison of not committing the crime. They weren't removed from death row by a technicality. They actually did not commit the crime. In one case the person was going to be executed the next morning but his lawyer got a delay. Then look at states like Texas where they can't seem to kill people fast enough. We will never know how many innocent people were butchered by the state there. Once someone is killed all of the evidence goes away. 

            The death penalty is wholly unnecessary. Innocent people die at the hand of the state. It costs way too much and it does not make our society safer. It is not a question of accountability it is a question of morals. How many innocent executions are worth the illusion of some peoples increased sense of safety?

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            • Author by philib (February 03, 2008 9:43 am ET)
                 

              "The death penalty is wholly unnecessary. Innocent people die at the hand of the state. It costs way too much and it does not make our society safer."

                 That pretty much tells me you are one to agree that the left supports 'no personal accountability'. I agree that innocent people should not be getting near the gallows, however, when a situation like that happens it is because of either lying witness's, lying prosecuters or lying judges. All of whom should be held accountable for their actions when it is determined they caused a false conviction. (see duke rape case...the lying woman still has not been charged). Study's have proven over and over again that a fair/equitable death penalty process has effectively reduced overall major crimes that would involve the death penalty as a sentence.

                 I understand your concern for the innocent lives, but how do you feel about the guilty? What if there is a case where the person absolutely/positively did it 'and' he admits doing it. Should that person be equally penalized for the lives he has taken unlawfully? Should the costly 25 year process for actually fulfilling the sentence be followed?

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              • Author by mefirst (February 03, 2008 3:24 pm ET)
                   
                that ignores the reality that people may think they are helping the police when they "identify" someone.  i very much doubt you would be in favor of prosecuting anyone who made a "mistake", innocent or not so innocent.
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                • Author by mefirst (February 03, 2008 3:27 pm ET)
                     
                  and h-man did not in any way say he favors no personal accountability. he said he does not support the death penaly.  i don't see that as him saying let killers go free.
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              • Author by solon (February 03, 2008 8:55 pm ET)
                   
                No it isnt. One of the dirty little secrets of law enforcement is that eyewitness testimony is inherently unreliable. That is why even in the BIBLE it demands TWO witnesses for a charge that would bring the death penalty. Sometimes they arent lying they are just wrong. Just like you are a whole lot of the time. Also many are put on death row on purely circumstantial evidence with NO eyewitness. As to the last question. I dont approve of the death penalty at all. Even when they are guilty. It isnt because I love murderers even you must know that is purely stupid. It is because the way you treat someone is about who YOU are not who THEY are. Your brother in law may be a jerk but you love your sister so you treat him civily. I dont think we ought to be the kind of people who kill people when there are other alternatives. I believe in human monsters. I believe in predators and I approve of life without parole. Your hyperbolic stupidity about loving murderers ought to shame you. It is an embarassment to actual discourse.
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          • Author by solon (February 03, 2008 8:49 pm ET)
               
            I think conservatives are just incredibly stupid. They love to see people die. ANYONE they love death. THAT is why they choose the conservative party instead of the other party which isnt all that liberal. Its party time at Phils house as long as people are dying.
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        • Author by Clevenative (February 02, 2008 9:39 am ET)
             

          I wasn't even aware of theHillary/JFK jr. tin foil hat contingent

          I’m sure someone will write a book on the subject – perhaps titled, “Tabloid Trash Talk of The Bush Years: The Conservatives Point of View” – there’s certainly no shortage of material.

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    • Author by hstybuf6553 (February 02, 2008 11:26 am ET)
         

      Then maybe we will know once and for all if this was a war for oil.

      Assume it is a war for oil, so what?  They have it, the world needs it, and if it were cut off we'd have to go after it.  Either that, or watch everything grind to a halt.  No different than food, and people have fought for food since forever.  JUst think of the final scene of three days of the condor.

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      • Author by matrixbio2014 (February 02, 2008 12:46 pm ET)
           
        The world needs energy, oil is a choice.  And if we had wise leadership in this country, they would have found viable alternative energy sources for our needs in the 1970's after OPEC's oil embargo made it clear we would be put over a barrell (no pun intended) if we didn't lessen our dependence on the stuff.  But nooooooooooo, they cow-towed to the oil industry and dug us deeper into an unstable part of the world so their oil corporate buddies could fatten their bottom lines and now we have fresh-faced, trusting young American teenagers being blown up so we can just keep keeping-on.  That's what can be called lousy, unwise, corrupt, callous leadership.
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        • Author by john174541842 (February 02, 2008 6:53 pm ET)
             
          Maybe a few more nuclear power plants wouldn't hurt us. It's only the most efficient way to create energy...even France know this! How about we drill in ANWR, and start drawing from our own un-tapped oil supply? It seems our extremist environmental friends, that typically happen to be liberal democrats, are holding us back from breaking free of foreign dependence more than anyone else at this point.
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          • Author by H-Man (February 03, 2008 7:58 am ET)
               

            Don't blame the lack of nuclear power plants solely on the backs of environmentalists. The majority of the American public does not want a power plant in their own back yard. That is the main obstacle in creating these plants. That especially became true after the Chernobyl incident. Sure it was over 20 years ago but people have long memories for events like that. 

            As far as ANWR goes. There is not enough oil there to give us energy independence. Why should we hurt the wildlife in these areas for oil that won't bring us independence?

            We  need to attack the demand side of this equation.  I  would agree that nuclear is an option. However, ultimately the cleanest and best for us solutions would be  renewable sources like solar and wind.

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    • Author by hstybuf6553 (February 02, 2008 11:44 am ET)
         
      oh, and shut down big businesses too. 
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    • Author by atheist (February 02, 2008 12:49 pm ET)
         

      This is so bizarre it's mind boggling !  What else are the Clinton's responsible for ?  Did they assassinate Pope John Paul ?  Are they the cause of global warming ?  Did they take out that undersea cable and disrupt 'net access for people in Asia ?  Were they piloting the 9/11 jets via remote control ?

      You know all of those missing socks in the dryer ????  Uh huh !  That's what I'm talking about !

      DID THEY HIDE MY KEYS YESTERDAY ????  

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    • Author by hstybuf6553 (February 02, 2008 12:55 pm ET)
         

      i hadn't thought about the socks.

       

      better they die for oil than in the jungles of vietnam fighting jfk's war (as I did)

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      • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (February 02, 2008 1:35 pm ET)
           

        "...better they die for oil than in the jungles of vietnam fighting jfk's war (as I did)"- (Hissybuff)

        "I got better" (Hissybuff)

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        • Author by worrierking (February 02, 2008 1:48 pm ET)
             
          Then it's not just me who reads history guys post as being from beyond the grave.

          Nice trick. I still owe four bucks to a guy who didn't make it back. If I send it to you, HistoryBuff, can you see that he gets it.
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          • Author by hstybuf6553 (February 02, 2008 6:17 pm ET)
               
            i was there three years, and left a lot of buddies.  what's the python reference.
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            • Author by worrierking (February 02, 2008 6:35 pm ET)
                 
              Me too, but just one tour.

              "I got better" is the Python reference.

              In 'Monty Python and the Holy Grail" a character tells the crowd that the suspected witch turned him into a newt. They all look at him and he says "I got better".
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              • Author by hstybuf6553 (February 02, 2008 7:09 pm ET)
                   
                i was never able to sit through the entire movie, but there are some very funny bits.
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          • Author by hstybuf6553 (February 02, 2008 7:50 pm ET)
               
            kind of sounds like a phil hendrie bit about a guy killed in iraq and he wants to collect a sum from the guy's daughter.
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            • Author by worrierking (February 02, 2008 7:58 pm ET)
                 
              I really do owe my friend $4. I left it at the wall near his name.
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              • Author by hstybuf6553 (February 02, 2008 8:20 pm ET)
                   
                well, that was a nice thing to do.  I was going to send you something from the virtual wall, but it is no longer there.  it was about a good friend, and the politics of the military.
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        • Author by worrierking (February 02, 2008 1:48 pm ET)
             
          And nice Python reference, Colonel.
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          • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (February 03, 2008 2:22 pm ET)
               
            Good catch, King. I thought that was just for me, but you're good. 3 words from 30 years ago, that's like "I can name that tune in 3 notes". ;0)
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      • Author by solon (February 03, 2008 8:58 pm ET)
           
        Eisenhower started us down the road to that war. JFK escalated but it was well underway before he became president.
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    • Author by Falcon1 (February 02, 2008 1:55 pm ET)
         

      Savage, the self-hating Jew, could explode on air with: "I want the leader of CAIR shot dead...today!" And, if he were to be shot dead the first thing Savage would do is cower (as he usually does) behind: "Anyone listening to my show knows I use a lot of satire. I was not serious when I said...blah blah blah"

      Savage is a fraud, a coward and a liar.

       

       

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      • Author by hstybuf6553 (February 02, 2008 7:32 pm ET)
           
        why do you say he's self-hating?
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      • Author by matrixbio2014 (February 03, 2008 5:47 pm ET)
           
        Oh yes, the lawsuit -it says something like he needs to vent hatred at Moslems on behalf of all of Americans who are outraged about 9/11 - a collective verbal attack so to speak.  But he will not be responsible when someone actually does shoot one of the employees of CAIR, whose photos and places of employment, for some strange reason, are listed on the Anti-CAIR website.  Oh nooooooo, he will not be responsible for that.  But he DOES take credit for stopping the Dubai Ports deal and well as stopping what was called the illegal immigrant amnesty bill - so the take home message is, he IS able to make people act, except when he doesn't want to take responsibility for motivating people to act.  Responsibility-Lite.
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