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While ignoring Bush's inconsistent statements on the issue, Fox's Wallace allowed Bush to distort Obama's Pakistan remark

February 11, 2008 6:56 pm ET
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SUMMARY: During a Fox News Sunday interview with President Bush, Chris Wallace left unchallenged Bush's statement regarding Sen. Barack Obama: "I certainly don't know what he believes in. The only foreign policy thing I remember he said was he's going to attack Pakistan and embrace [Iranian President Mahmoud] Ahmadinejad." But Bush and his administration have made contradictory statements on the question of dealing with Al Qaeda leaders in Pakistan, the specific issue that Bush purported to know where Obama stands. Wallace also did not note Bush misrepresented Obama's statements regarding Pakistan and engaging in dialogue with Ahmadinejad.

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During an interview on the February 10 edition of Fox News Sunday, President Bush said to host Chris Wallace regarding Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama (IL): "I certainly don't know what he believes in. The only foreign policy thing I remember he said was he's going to attack Pakistan and embrace [Iranian President Mahmoud] Ahmadinejad." Wallace did not challenge the statement in any way, even though Bush himself has made contradictory statements on the question of dealing with leading members of Al Qaeda in Pakistan, the specific issue that Bush purported to know where Obama stands. Moreover, Bush misrepresented Obama's statements on that specific issue and smeared Obama by falsely claiming he said "he's going to ... embrace Ahmadinejad."

Wallace also neglected to mention that other "foreign policy" issues Obama has discussed that Bush might "remember" are Obama's proposals to begin to withdraw troops from Iraq and "redeploy at least two combat brigades" for counterterrorism operations in Afghanistan.

Within a span of five days, Bush said both that he would and that he would not go after Al Qaeda in Pakistan without the permission of the Pakistani government. On September 20, 2006, Bush said to CNN host Wolf Blitzer that he would "[a]bsolutely" order U.S. troops into sovereign Pakistani territory "to bring [Osama bin Laden] to justice." Bush reaffirmed that position on November 28, 2007, during another interview with Bush. Blitzer asked: "[A] year ago September ... you told me that 'absolutely' -- that was your word -- you would authorize U.S. troops to go into Pakistan if you had actionable intelligence on Osama bin Laden's whereabouts or other top-ranking Al Qaeda members. Is that still your position?" When Bush replied, "Yeah," Blitzer asked, "Hasn't changed?" Bush responded: "No, hasn't changed."

Yet during a September 15, 2006, press conference -- five days before his 2006 interview with Blitzer -- Bush ruled out "sending special forces to Pakistan to hunt down [Osama] bin Laden" in part because "Pakistan is a sovereign nation." Additionally, on August 1, 2007, then-White House press secretary Tony Snow said: "[O]ur approach to Pakistan is one that not only respects the sovereignty of Pakistan as a sovereign government, but is also designed to work in a way where we are working in cooperation with the local government." During an August 9, 2007, press conference Bush declined to say whether he agreed with Obama's August 1 statement that "If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will":

Q: Sir, on Monday, at Camp David, when you met with President Karzai from Afghanistan, you were asked if you had actionable intelligence in Pakistan of top al Qaeda leaders; would you take action unilaterally, if in fact you felt that President Musharraf simply, for one reason or another, just simply couldn't get his people there in time, would you move in? And you said, if we had actionable -- good, actionable intelligence, we would get the job done.

My question, one, is, who is "we"? Does that we include the Pakistanis, or -- because the question says, Musharraf wouldn't be able to be in -- would you do it unilaterally? And one reason this is a hot question this week is that one of the Democratic presidential candidates, Barack Obama, talked about taking unilateral action. He kind of got beaten up by people in the Democratic Party, and by Mitt Romney in your party, Romney comparing him to Dr. Strangelove. I don't know if you would agree with that, or if you would feel --

THE PRESIDENT: John, I suspect that over the course of the next months, when I hold a press conference, you'll be trying to get me to engage in presidential politics; trying to get me to opine about what candidates are saying, whether they be Republicans or Democrats. And hopefully I'll be disciplined enough not to fall prey to your question, not to fall into that trap.

To the question you asked, and to my answer in Camp David, I said I'm confident that we -- both the Paks and the Americans -- will be able to work up a plan, based upon actionable intelligence, that will bring the top al Qaeda targets to justice. I meant what I said. We spend a lot of time with the leadership in Pakistan, talking about what we will do with actionable intelligence. And the question was, am I confident that they will be brought to justice, and my answer to you is, yes, I am confident.

Additionally, Obama has not said that "he's going to attack Pakistan and embrace Ahmadinejad," as Bush asserted; he said he would "act" if Musharraf didn't -- making actions conditional, not, as Bush claimed, definite -- and he did not specify what actions he would take.

Nor has Obama said he would "embrace Ahmadinejad," as Bush stated. During the July 23, 2007, Democratic presidential debate in South Carolina, a participant asked the candidates:

QUESTION: In 1982, Anwar Sadat traveled to Israel, a trip that resulted in a peace agreement that has lasted ever since. In the spirit of that type of bold leadership, would you be willing to meet separately, without precondition, during the first year of your administration, in Washington or anywhere else, with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea, in order to bridge the gap that divides our countries?

Obama replied:

OBAMA: I would. And the reason is this, that the notion that somehow not talking to countries is punishment to them -- which has been the guiding diplomatic principle of this administration -- is ridiculous.

Now, Ronald Reagan and Democratic presidents like JFK constantly spoke to Soviet Union at a time when Ronald Reagan called them an evil empire. And the reason is because they understood that we may not trust them and they may pose an extraordinary danger to this country, but we had the obligation to find areas where we can potentially move forward.

And I think that it is a disgrace that we have not spoken to them. We've been talking about Iraq -- one of the first things that I would do in terms of moving a diplomatic effort in the region forward is to send a signal that we need to talk to Iran and Syria because they're going to have responsibilities if Iraq collapses.

They have been acting irresponsibly up until this point. But if we tell them that we are not going to be a permanent occupying force, we are in a position to say that they are going to have to carry some weight, in terms of stabilizing the region.

As a February 11 Washington Post article on Bush's comments summarized: "Obama said he would be willing to meet with rogue leaders such as Iran's Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to talk through differences, but he did not embrace him."

From the February 10 edition of Fox Broadcasting Co.'s Fox News Sunday:

BUSH: If the Democrat Party feels like they can win an election by focusing on me, I think they'll be making a huge tactical mistake, but I hope they do that, then, because our candidate will be able to talk about the future and what this person intends to do for the country.

WALLACE: Do you think there's a rush to judgment about Barack Obama? Do you think voters know enough about him?

BUSH: I certainly don't know what he believes in. The only foreign policy thing I remember he said was he's going to attack Pakistan and embrace Ahmadinejad, which -- I think I commented that in a press conference when I was asked about it.

WALLACE: I hope not. But so you don't -- you don't think that we know enough about him or what he stands for?

BUSH: Doesn't seem like it to me, but this campaign has plenty of time for candidates to get defined. He is yet his party's nominee.

WALLACE: So, why do you think he's gotten this far if people don't know what he stands for?

BUSH: You're the pundit. I'm just a simple president.

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    • Author by pete592 (February 11, 2008 7:08 pm ET)
         

      "I certainly don't know what [Obama] believes in."

      "But I certainly won't let that stop me from passing on some B.S. right wing talking points I heard on Hannity and Colmes the other day.  I may be a lame duck, but I can still smear with the best of 'em. <snicker, snicker>" 

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      • Author by pete592 (February 11, 2008 8:01 pm ET)
           

        On a related note, with it being Valentine's Day soon, it looks like the GOP has a heartwarming little greeting for all you right wingers to send to your sweetheart. 

        Yes, that's right, this is straight from the GOP.

        First we had county Republican committees posting and forwarding e-mail sewage about Obama, and now this, straight from the national HQ. 

        How low is the Republican party going to go before this is over?

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        • Author by mary59 (February 11, 2008 8:34 pm ET)
             
          lower than a snake's hips. 
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        • Author by eweston8542983 (February 11, 2008 8:46 pm ET)
             

          That really is, a trick question. I expect to be unpleasantly surprised by the RNC a couple more times this year.

          Its kind of similar to a gambling addict. He's losin, but all it takes is one win, one more lucky twist of fate. To change behavior is to lose any chance of winning. However microscopic that win is, or even real. It becomes a great motivator to keep at it, and the cat bird seat will be back under the tush that it truely belongs to.

          I really don't think they can concieve of any other way of doing politics.

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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (February 11, 2008 7:27 pm ET)
         
      FOX is a free ride. Into an intellectual abyss so deep it is permanent.
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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (February 11, 2008 7:37 pm ET)
         
      I reread this and we have proof he is a simple president. You don't have to be complicated to start a war in the wrong place and perform  governance by veto.
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    • Author by johnny_nyc8351 (February 11, 2008 7:49 pm ET)
         
      Just when you think W is about to slip into statesman mode he reverts back to form: a partisan politician rather than the leader of the free world.

      His remarks are more appropriate for the National Chair of the Republican Party than the president of the United States.
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      • Author by wolf kotenberg (February 11, 2008 11:45 pm ET)
           
        All part of the original plan, divide and conquer. Started with the famous " either you are with us or with the terrorrists challenge., followed almost immediately with supporting the war with supporting the troops challenge. " I think I know why Cheney appointed himself vice-president and operates in secret mode.
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        • Author by tex (February 12, 2008 9:31 am ET)
             

          WHY should we NOT tax rich folks?

          I thought it was "trickle down", the idea that the Rich provide all the jobs, and they are "achievers" who deserve every benefit, and to tax them is to "punish" them, forcing them to STOP doing the things that make money.

          BUSH has a completely different idea. He really WANTS to tax those rich folks, but it's just IMPRACTICAL, because the rich will simply OUTSMART the government. It's useless to TRY to tax them, because the rich will turn the tables and cause HARM to the middle class. And Bush is all about helping the Middle Class, you know, which explains why his Administration has busted their asses providing tax CUTS to the wealthy.

          Here's how BUSH explains his quandry:

          Talking to Chris Wallace, Bush said, "Most Americans feel overtaxed and I promise you the Democrat party is going to field a candidate who says I’m going to raise your tax. If they’re going to say, oh, we’re only going to tax the rich people, but most people in America understand that the rich people hire good accountants and figure out how not to necessarily pay all the taxes and the middle class gets stuck. We’ve had — we’ve been through this drill before. We’re only going to tax the rich and all you have to do is look at the history of that kind of language and see who gets stuck with the bill."

          So, there you have it. You can't tax the wealthy because they will pull a "roadrunner" and turn the tables on you. Wham, bam, they hire an accountant and then POW, the middle class gets stuck paying THIER tax burdens.

          This is our president, the MBA, the "conservative", the courageous fighter of all things evil.

          Please, God, let's IMPEACH this idiot before it's too late. 

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    • Author by MickD (February 11, 2008 8:18 pm ET)
         
      I love the headline, as if Chris Wallace would even do any homework on a BushieCo policy position that could put GWB in a bad light. Ha, double ha.
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    • Author by mefirst (February 11, 2008 9:53 pm ET)
         
      "I'm just a simple president."  at last, he admits it.  but truthfully, this is why i think hillary would be the better candidate.  we know everything the republicans will throw at her.  there is nothing unknown about her.  the republicans are going to bring up things like obama saying he wanted to ban handguns.  just the kind of red meat stuff the republicans love.   or obama's statement about the republicans being the party of ideas for the last 15 years.  obama supporters are not going to have the ability to dismiss those things by claiming the clintons are attacking unfairly.  that won't work with the right wing.   
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      • Author by lostlogic (February 11, 2008 10:21 pm ET)
           
        I hope that Obama will be able to stand up to the right wing machine if he becomes the candidate but because of the easy ride he has had with the media for the most part I am left to wonder how he will handle it.  I am concerned that when asked about this issue both Obama and reps from his campaign claim he has been through a tough primary andf has had it all thrown against him and if there was anything else to use against him the Clinton campaign would have done so.  This leaves me thinking that they are extremely naive if they think they have had a difficult run in the primary and if they fail to realize that the constraints a fellow democrat (especially the Clintons) running against you has to show will not so constrain the republicans.  I have said this before the media worship of Obama did him no favors and may have given him a false sense of confidence going into the general. 
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      • Author by mefirst (February 12, 2008 7:28 am ET)
           

        this is one that will be guaranteed to come up.  the fact that obama had other candidates removed from the ballot in 1996, by challenging signatures on nominating petitions, leaving him the only candidate.

        http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-070403obama-ballot,0,1843097.story

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    • Author by captfoster2 (February 11, 2008 10:19 pm ET)
         

      Well..... In Chris Wallaces defense....

      He was only interviewing a 'simple' man.....er president!

      Its not like we can be expected for the seemingly most powerful man on planet earth to be articulate and/or refined...... can we?

      Nevermind...... pass the vodka...... oh....opps.... sorry George... didn't mean to bring up....ah forget it...

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    • Author by IRONY 101 (February 11, 2008 10:20 pm ET)
         

      My wife had to restrain me while we watched Bush's performance with Chris Wallace.  ;>)

      While I shouted at the television that Bush was misrepresenting what Obama actually said she reminded me that Bush and Cheney will be gone from office in less than a year. If only yhere was a God both of them would be going directly to jail.

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    • Author by edella1793 (February 12, 2008 12:41 am ET)
         
      "the only foreign policy thing I remember". Really. "Foreign policy thing" Jesus H Christ, people actually voted for this guy. It's like an interview with someone that went to school on the short yellow bus. Or should I say the short yellow chauffeur driven bus, lest we forget W's average Joe upbringing. He wasn't intentionally contradictory, he just doesn't have the slightest idea of what he's talking about. He doesn't even realize (to this day) that he's not really President. What would possibly be expected from a discussion with this imbecile?
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    • Author by dazedandconfused26 (February 12, 2008 11:19 am ET)
         
      "I'm just a SIMPLE president." Thats the first time ol GW told the truth in about 8 years.
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    • Author by dangrady (February 12, 2008 11:54 am ET)
         

      SAVE DEMOCRACY, VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT!!

      BUSH: You're the pundit. I'm just a simple president.

      I would like to help our mentally challanged President here with a correction: "You're the pundit. I'm just a SIMPLETON president."

      Happy Thoughts;

      Dan Grady

       

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