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February 11, 2008 8:48 pm ET

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SUMMARY: CNN's Candy Crowley said that the "affluent, well-educated white voters" who were part of Sen. Barack "Obama's voting bloc" were the "so-called latte liberals." This statement recalls her reported 2004 suggestion that green tea is unfamiliar to "most of America" after John Kerry requested it in Iowa. Similarly, on Fox News, U.S. News & World Report's Michael Barone suggested that Obama would do well among "latte liberals." Alan Colmes then challenged Barone's description: "[A]re there latte conservatives?"

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On the February 11 edition of CNN's The Situation Room, senior political correspondent Candy Crowley said that the "affluent, well-educated white voters" who were part of Sen. Barack "Obama's voting bloc" were the "so-called latte liberals." Similarly, during Fox News' coverage of February 9 caucuses and primaries, U.S. News & World Report senior writer Michael Barone suggested that Obama would do well among "latte liberals." Moments later, co-host Alan Colmes challenged Barone's description: "Is there -- are there latte conservatives? I'm just curious. Do they -- conservatives may like that drink, too. It's a very lovely drink." Barone responded: "Well, I think it seems to be a pretty universal drink these days."

Crowley's use of the term "latte liberals" recalls her reported 2004 suggestion that green tea is unfamiliar to "most of America." According to a November 16, 2004, Palm Beach Post article, Crowley gave a speech in which she said that in January 2003, she and Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) "met for breakfast at the Holiday Inn in Dubuque, Iowa. 'I'd like to start out with some green tea,' Kerry told the waitress, who stared at him for a moment before responding, 'We have Lipton's.' " The article reported that Crowley said: "There were many green tea instances ... There's a very large disconnect between the Washington politicians and most of America and how they live. Bush was able to bridge that gap, and Kerry was not." In fact, as Media Matters for America noted at the time, according to Lipton's product locator, green tea was available (and still is available in 2008) at the Dubuque, Iowa, Kmart.

Additionally, on the December 14, 2007, edition of The Situation Room, host Wolf Blitzer cited a December 12, 2007, Associated Press article, in which the presidential candidates answered questions about their coffee preferences, part of the AP's "series of questions about [the candidates'] personal side," and announced, "[L]ook at this -- Hillary Clinton is a flip-flopper. Sometimes she takes it black, sometimes with cream." Yet, Blitzer had offered no characterization of either Rudy Giuliani's or Sen. John McCain's (R-AZ) coffee preferences, noting only "Giuliani prefers low-cal sweetener, any brand will do" and "McCain is fond of cappuccino, or coffee with cream and sugar."

During the October 19, 2006, edition of The Situation Room, Crowley asserted that Democrats have been "on the losing side of the values debate, the defense debate and, oh yes, the guns debate"; suggested that Democrats are out of touch with mainstream Americans because "[former Democratic presidential candidates] Al Gore and John Kerry lost every Southern state and most of the mid- and interior West"; and aired only negative opinions of the Democratic Party, such as an Asheville, North Carolina, resident who called the Democrats "losers."

From the November 16, 2004, Palm Beach Post article:

During a luncheon speech Monday to the Forum Club of the Palm Beaches, CNN political correspondent Candy Crowley shared an early memory from the campaign trail that may explain why John Kerry will not be president next year.

In January 2003, when his campaign was still young enough that Kerry would actually sit down with reporters in a relaxed setting, he and Crowley met for breakfast at the Holiday Inn in Dubuque, Iowa. "I'd like to start out with some green tea," Kerry told the waitress, who stared at him for a moment before responding, "We have Lipton's."

Lipton's would be fine, Kerry said, but the memory stayed with Crowley. "There were many green tea instances," she told the sell-out crowd of 450 at the Kravis Center's Cohen Pavilion. "There's a very large disconnect between the Washington politicians and most of America and how they live. Bush was able to bridge that gap, and Kerry was not."

From the 8 p.m. ET hour of Fox News' February 9 presidential primaries and caucuses coverage:

COLMES: What's going on with the state of Washington and why has it not yet been called?

BARONE: Well, it hasn't been called yet -- we got reports showing 37 percent of the precincts reporting. We don't know which precincts, and that makes a lot of difference in Washington state. If you've got the latte liberals in King County, you know, going only lukewarmly for Barack Obama, you would -- he might be ahead, but you might suppose he would be behind when the eastern precincts in Spokane County, which is a lot more conservative, east of the Cascades, comes in and vote. So when we don't know what it is, we're not able to say for sure who's going to win that race. The initial things show Obama ahead. We'll see where that vote comes from and what it means as the night goes on.

COLMES: All right, Michael, we'll be following you throughout the night as well. Is there -- are there latte conservatives? I'm just curious. Do they -- conservatives may like that drink, too. It's a very lovely drink.

BARONE: Well, I think it seems to be a pretty universal drink these days, but it really got its start in Seattle, you know, the first Starbucks. I've been there.

COLMES: That's right. All right, all right.

From the February 11 edition of CNN's The Situation Room:

CROWLEY: One hundred sixty-eight delegates are at stake Tuesday in the Potomac primary: Maryland, Virginia, and Washington, D.C. All have sizable African-American populations, as well as significant numbers of affluent, well-educated white voters -- the so-called "latte liberals" -- who, along with young voters, form the core of Obama's voting bloc. The momentum for the moment is his, built in part on wins in all five weekend contests: caucuses in Washington state, Nebraska, Maine, the Virgin Islands, and a primary in Louisiana.

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    • Author by lostlogic (February 11, 2008 9:01 pm ET)
         
      I think calling his supporters "latte" liberals is a way to denigrate that voting block.  Make them seem like elitist fluff.  I wish they would state the facts and drop their catchy phrases that they think is so clever but really just shows their own bias and shallowness. 
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      • Author by captfoster2 (February 11, 2008 10:39 pm ET)
           

        LOSTLOGIC,

        Your statement makes perfect sense, the corporate media see's in Obama a real threat to their existance as they know it today.....

        But what upsets me so much about the corporate owned media is the complete and total disconect they have with the real world.

        I'm an Obama supporter but I would hardly call me elite..... I'm being forced into selling my home by May 15 or face foreclosure, I'm $32,000 in the hole in student loans..... My wife and I persevier and make no excuses for our situation yet see a bright future after I graduate as a newly ordained school teacher and the hope that the Dems will do what is right for us all and not just a small minor few in the coming years!

        I don't hold my breathe but I do have the audacity to hope!

        With this in mind, this is why I see Obama as a true hope for a brighter future..... John Edwards as the AG would make me even happier

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        • Author by lostlogic (February 11, 2008 11:30 pm ET)
             
          Capt, I hope things work out for you...unfortunatley your plight is not unique these days...hopefully help is on the way.   On a lighter note if we are talking dream teams how about this one: Obama the guy that gives hope and inspiration, Clinton the gal that gets the job done, and Edwards the guy that keeps them all honest...now that is a winning ticket.  We may have differences on which order we want them on the ticket but I think it would be an amazing group.   I think we are all looking for similar change and I think if a democrat wins the election we will see it. (-: 
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      • Author by tex (February 12, 2008 2:24 am ET)
           

        LOST LOGIC: You say, "I think calling his supporters "latte" liberals is a way to denigrate that voting block."

        BE CAREFUL. By suggesting there IS "that voting bloc", you fall for the stereotyping our rightwing media is fond of doing. People who might vote for Obama, or for Hillary, or for anyone else, cannot be dismissed by lumping them together as drinking the same beverage. That is lazy and stupid, and as you point out, is intended to ridicule and "denigrate".

        That said, I suggest we refer to all McCain voters henceforth as "toilet seat sniffers."

        Thank you. 

         

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        • Author by lostlogic (February 12, 2008 12:55 pm ET)
             
          Tex, I'm confused are you saying that the demographic they are referring to as higher formal education and economic status doesn't exist and that they are not in a higher majority voting for Obama as those with less formal education and unde 50K seem to be favoring Clinton.  That was the voting block I was referring to.  I think it is subjective what these divisions mean but I do think it is a reasonable demographic study to make. I just think trying to come up with some cutesy denigrating label for the demographic is the problem not the actual citing of the demographic using the factual terminalogy of income and education status.
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    • Author by carlileb5935 (February 11, 2008 9:06 pm ET)
         
      Am I the only one who gets the horrible feeling when watching these people that we are all stuck in some kind of cosmic, eternal junior high school? Like it's purgatory or something, having to deal with these trite characters?
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      • Author by MB141 (February 12, 2008 1:48 pm ET)
           
        yes...this is the lazy reporters way of creating a story line instead of actually reporting something of significance.  The whole concept of the "latte" or "limousine" liberal was created by the right-wing to paint the entire Democratic party as being elitist and out of touch with "regular" working folk.  Apparently when Crowley or any other hack runs out of material, they revert back to the same tired story-lines of the east coast/west coast elite vs. the mid-west and southern hicks.  do they really go to college for this stuff?
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    • Author by guy montag (February 11, 2008 9:15 pm ET)
         
      Yeah, the phrase used to be, "limousine liberals." 
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    • Author by snoopy (February 11, 2008 9:21 pm ET)
         

      I don't know about Latte conservatives, but there sure are a lot of rapture conservatives!

      http://www.mockpaperscissors.com/?p=6722

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    • Author by mefirst (February 11, 2008 9:28 pm ET)
         
      7-11 has brewed green tea.
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      • Author by juliajayne (February 12, 2008 9:06 am ET)
           
        My Mom is a die hard Republican and she has been drinking green tea for the last 45 years.
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        • Author by jeter2 (February 12, 2008 11:13 am ET)
             

          Well my usually sweet, sometimes grumpy Julia I drink green tea myself, not sure what that means ;-)

          I'm not a latte drinker, not sure what that means either. :-/

          Mostly I drink just plain old coffee, with one splenda and half&half. I wonder what that means? Shrug.

          I've always thought of Liberals as tree huggers & granola eaters. JUST KIDDING! ;-)

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          • Author by juliajayne (February 12, 2008 2:26 pm ET)
               

            Hey, don't project YOUR grumpiness on to me. 

            My Mom drinks cofee until noon and then switches to green tea for the duration of the day. I never thought it meant anything except she might have to pee a lot.   ;-0) Turns out she is effete and liberal. Who knew? 

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            • Author by juliajayne (February 12, 2008 2:50 pm ET)
                 

              Oh and Sir Jeter, don't confuse "grumpiness" with "not suffering fools". 

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              • Author by jeter2 (February 12, 2008 3:08 pm ET)
                   

                And here I thought it was PMS ;-)

                Kidding Kidding Kidding!

                BTW I like the sound of Sir Jeter.

                Lady Julia has knighted me :-)

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                • Author by juliajayne (February 12, 2008 4:27 pm ET)
                     

                  "And here I thought it was PMS"  ;-) J2

                  Sir Jeter, don't make Lady Julia "anoint" you number 1 royal member of MSNBC's swine cadre. I shall make you oink three times before being able to address me again.   ;-0

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                  • Author by jeter2 (February 12, 2008 4:56 pm ET)
                       

                    oink oink oink

                    And now Lady Julia as my penance I'll serenade you. I dedicate this to Chris Matthews & the crew at MSNBC...

                     

                    Have you seen the little piggies

                    Crawling in the dirt

                    And for all those little piggies

                    Life is getting worse

                    Always having dirt to play around in.

                    Have you seen the bigger piggies

                    In their starched white shirts

                    You will find the bigger piggies

                    Stirring up the dirt

                    And they always have clean shirts to play around in.

                    And in their styes with all their backing

                    They don't care what goes on around

                    And in their eyes there's something lacking

                    What they need's a damm good whacking.

                    Yeah, everywhere there's lots of piggies

                    Playing piggy pranks

                    And you can see them on their trotters

                    Down at the piggy banks

                    Paying piggy thanks

                    To thee pig brother

                    Everywhere there's lots of piggies

                    Living piggy lives

                    You can see them out for dinner

                    With their piggy wives

                    Clutching forks and knives to eat their bacon.

                     

                    *thanks to late great George Harrison*

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                    • Author by juliajayne (February 12, 2008 5:20 pm ET)
                         

                       

                       My lovely piggy has rehabilitated himself. A haiku for you:

                      A lovely porcine dream

                      Little piggys

                      Eating their own

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                      • Author by jeter2 (February 12, 2008 5:53 pm ET)
                           

                        ...and Lady Julia & Sir Jeter lived happily ever after :-)

                        Well at least on this thread ;-)

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      • Author by atheist (February 12, 2008 1:24 pm ET)
           

        7-11 has brewed green tea.

        Hahaha !!

        I so took offense at that *green tea scandal*.  Ordering green tea in Dubuque wasn't elitist, presuming that Dubuque wouldn't offer green tea WAS.  I'm originally from Iowa, I'm sure the MSM and the Repoopiehaids would be surprised that (gasp) je parle un peu de français, mais je ne bois pas du thé.

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    • Author by MoonbatYouBet (February 11, 2008 9:52 pm ET)
         
      Yeah, those latte drinkers are so rare.  There may be a market out there for an enterprising person to open a ubiquitous chain of latte serving franchises, but there probably aren't enough latte drinkers out there to support more than one per city, maybe two if there's a mall.
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (February 11, 2008 9:59 pm ET)
         
      Funny, I haven't heard too much in the media about Sodomite Social Conservatives...you know, the social conservatives who rail against gay rights while they secretly engage in a gay lifestyle. Does McCain have that voting block sewn up?
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    • Author by edella1793 (February 11, 2008 11:29 pm ET)
         
      I keep forgetting there are no well educated white conservatives. Go to a CPAC conference and see how many you can count. My bad, maybe it would be easier to count the non-white not well educated conservatives, probably a much smaller crowd.

      If your name is Candy should you really expect anyone to take anything you have to say seriously?
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    • Author by bravenewworld (February 12, 2008 12:04 am ET)
         

      So lazy vapid pundits will be known for munching crab cakes and cocktail weenies with their overpaid pompous colleagues at the socially correct Washington soirees?  Hmmmm, who's out of touch here?

      I can't stand Obama, but I also can't stand this internalized conservatism and how it comes out in such silly labels.

      I must admit I'm shocked that she didn't use something like this to slam Clinton.  She's hated Hillary forever.

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      • Author by Dem02020 (February 12, 2008 12:18 pm ET)
           

        CNN's Crowley again defined by purported choice of snacks from the machine in the lunchroom

        (And I'm starting to think that yeah, the folks at MMFA are "hysterical ninnies")

         

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    • Author by nativeofsf (February 12, 2008 12:17 am ET)
         
      Caffé latte is an Italian espresso drink made with more steamed milk than a cappuccino. It was NOT invented in the great state of Washington or by any American company, other than as an incorrect marketing ruse. It is Italian. Both the caffé latte and the cappuccino are taken in the morning and ONLY in the morning, by Italians. The espresso is taken afterwards. An American in Italy, ordering a caffé latte in the afternoon or evening would be considered a big stronzo for doing so. It is only here that it is otherwise. To conjure “latte liberals” as a derisive & demeaning term merely demonstrates the insipid, knuckle-dragging properties of these quoted stronzi.
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    • Author by Eric Jaffa (February 12, 2008 12:49 am ET)
         

      It's commonplace for people to go to college today.

      Only an idiot would say: some of his voters graduated from college, therefore they're "latte liberals."

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    • Author by MickD (February 12, 2008 9:25 am ET)
         
      Heidi Collins of CNN just used the same term in association with Obama and today's primaries. She framed it with "so-called latte liberals." Karl Rove lives.
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    • Author by Susie (February 12, 2008 11:13 am ET)
         

      "McCain is fond of cappuccino" this makes McCain a "Latent Latte Liberal" 

      The LLL's are the ones the conservatives should watch out for this year. They are everywhere. 

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    • Author by nerzog (February 12, 2008 11:46 am ET)
         
      This is along the same lines as using "French" as an insult. Anything refined, or remotely "European" is not "Amurricin" enough.

      I won't object to the term "Latte Liberals", if they'll start referring to the GOP base as "BibleThumping Throwbacks" or "Nestea Neanderthals".
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      • Author by jawill11 (February 12, 2008 1:19 pm ET)
           

        I like "nestea neandertals" 

        Might I suggest "Kool-aid Konservatives"  or even better "Krazy Kool-aid Konservatives"

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      • Author by atheist (February 12, 2008 1:44 pm ET)
           
        Apparently we're supposed to sit around a campfire drinking Maxwell House in tin cups.
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      • Author by thedailyphosdex (February 13, 2008 12:04 pm ET)
           

        Where would this leave those drinking Rooibos (Afrikaans for "red bush," a shrub pecuilar to the Northern Cape region of South Africa and widely enjoyed there as a caffeine-free tea) politically?

        Or, for that matter, Cape honeybush (a close relative of Rooibos, also pecuilar to South Africa, popular among some older South Africans as an appetite stimulant before meals)?

        Let alone New Orleans-stylee coffee-and-chicory blend?

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    • Author by dazedandconfused26 (February 12, 2008 11:58 am ET)
         
      Can I be a white choclate mocha frappuchino liberal? Not a big fan of Lattes.
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    • Author by eweston8542983 (February 12, 2008 12:27 pm ET)
         
      If you like DAC, but your not getting all the benifits of chocolate if its white. I don't do coffee myself. A cup of coco does me ok for a hot drink. A consientious objector in the caffeine wars.
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    • Author by neoskepticon (February 12, 2008 1:28 pm ET)
         

      i think it's really going to come down to the "chai-latte hopesters" and the "espresso-bama-maniacs"

       

      the *NEWS* IS CANCELLED! 

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    • Author by mikeinmd (February 12, 2008 1:47 pm ET)
         
      Well, I had the honor to vote in the Maryland Primary this morning.  When you're a Democrat in Carroll County the lines are very short.  I voted for Hillary Clinton but I like Senator Obama as well.  I just think Hillary has been getting a raw deal from all the media pundits for 16 years and she deserves some support.  I don't think I've ever had a latte, but I like my coffee with cream and sugar.  I've always thought of right wingers as bile drinkers.
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    • Author by LarryE (February 12, 2008 4:14 pm ET)
         

      Latte liberals? Uh-huh.

      So what with John McCain, do we now have "cappuccino conservatives?"

      Actually, I prefer "cognac conservatives," as the image of excessively well-groomed, overly well-dressed men lounging about the drawing room, snifters in hand, seems fitting.

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    • Author by tman418 (February 12, 2008 4:20 pm ET)
         
      I'm a RED BULL liberal!
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    • Author by see it real (February 12, 2008 7:22 pm ET)
         

      This is expected.  GOP-CNN is a right wing corporatist conservative Republican Party controlled network that needs to be re-named the Conservative News Network, or the Republican National Committee News Network.

      Add to that, Candy Crowley herself is also a right wing conservative Republican hate hag who may also be in collusion with the McCain campaign.  In fact, GOP-CNN in particular is likely in collusion with the McCain campaign.

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