Savage claimed Lantos used the Holocaust as "a weapon the rest of his life"
SUMMARY: Discussing the recent death of Rep. Tom Lantos, Michael Savage stated, "You're not supposed to talk badly about the dead. I generally wouldn't do it. But in the case of Tom Lantos, I'll make an exception. I think he was one of the most -- he was a scoundrel. And I'll tell you why I detested Tom Lantos. The man survived the Holocaust of World War II and used it as a weapon the rest of his life."
Discussing the recent death of Rep. Tom Lantos (D-CA), Michael Savage stated during the February 11 edition of his nationally syndicated radio show, "You're not supposed to talk badly about the dead. I generally wouldn't do it. But in the case of Tom Lantos, I'll make an exception. I think he was one of the most -- he was a scoundrel. And I'll tell you why I detested Tom Lantos. The man survived the Holocaust of World War II and used it as a weapon the rest of his life."
Lantos had served California's 12th District since 1981 and was the only member of Congress to have survived the Holocaust. He escaped from a forced labor camp in his native country of Hungary as a teenager with the help of Swedish humanitarian Raoul Wallenberg. Savage later claimed, "You can't have it both ways. You can't suffer such a horror, and then use it as a weapon without people noticing it." He added: "I didn't like Tom Lantos."
According to Talk Radio Network, which syndicates Savage's show, Savage is heard on more than 350 radio stations. Talkers Magazine has indicated that The Savage Nation reaches more than 8 million listeners each week, making it the third most listened-to talk radio show in the nation, behind only The Rush Limbaugh Show and The Sean Hannity Show.
From the February 11 edition of Talk Radio Network's The Savage Nation:
SAVAGE: Well, go down there. You'll see two pictures from North Beach and Chinatown. One is a series of cafe tables that I think is a beautiful, beautiful composition, and below it is -- are the musicians in the Chinese funeral. I'll put the rest of the panel up day by day, and you'll get a flavor of the city I love so much, despite the corrupt official in the city. I love this city. Thank you for the call.
Who died? What's his name? Lantos? You know, that's a tough one for me to deal with. You're not supposed to talk badly about the dead. I generally wouldn't do it. But in the case of Tom Lantos, I'll make an exception. I think he was one of the most -- he was a scoundrel. And I'll tell you why I detested Tom Lantos. The man survived the Holocaust of World War II and used it as a weapon the rest of his life. That's why. Do you understand what I just said to you? You can't have it both ways. You can't suffer such a horror, and then use it as a weapon without people noticing it. You know what I'm saying to you? I didn't like Tom Lantos. And by the way, Tom Lantos was responsible for a gigantic policy disaster in Iraq. Him and [House Speaker] Nancy Pelosi [D-CA] came out and attacked Turkey, if you remember, six months ago and caused a tremendous upheaval in our military mission in Iraq against the enemy. You won't read that in the press, because as you know, the liberals in the media are all soft and they like to write these puff-piece stories. You understand that? It's way beyond the -- well, forget about it.
The one thing I fear if either of these cretins become president is higher taxes because I don't want to give the bums any more than I'm already giving them. They're bleeding me dry. I don't want to give the bums in the street another turkey sandwich. I don't want to give junkies another needle. I am sick and tired of the taxes I pay, and I don't want to pay another dime.
This *man* is all over the freakin' place. And just how did Tom 'use it as a weapon'?
Savage is the classic example of a 'self-loathing Jew'. Most of us Jews get along with our brethren, whether they secular/reform, conservative, orthodox, etc. However, there is a small group of Jews that happen to be ashamed of their heritage, and choose not to identify themselves as Jewish because of that. Mr. Savage is clearly one of these, as he obviously has no respect for the hardships endured by his ancestors, nor does he have respect for any of the traditions that Jews value.
If Michael Savage really does have 8 million listeners, maybe we can help put it in perspective for him.
Michael - Imagine if, tomorrow, all of your listeners were suddenly wiped off the face of the earth. That would be in the same ballpark as the number of Jews the Nazis wiped off the face of the earth. Now do you understand that the Holocaust was bad?
I don't think you mean ancestors, as that term generally refers to those more distant than grandparents, like forefathers. We're talking 70 years ago here.
I saw Lantos with Henry Hyde speak at an AIPAC conference. They were both great. Lantos spoke not only about his love of Israel, but also about his love of the U.S.
He told about his voyage to the U.S. and being in the mess on the ship. He wanted a banana and an orange. He asked a sailor if he could. The sailor said, you can take as many as you damn want.
I think Savage is all wet.
Ancestors includes grandparents. And more than just his grandparents endured hardships.
Savage is all wet with his own vomit.
"He has the compassion of a snake, his disgusting vile hate toward people who are suffering from terrible diseases such as AIDS in the gay community and in Africa has been documented, his hate toward anyone with a different view than he has." -S.
AIDS is indeed a terrible disease like is any death causing disease, but it is not how terrible a disease is that determines whether it should get the most attention and research. We must use our minds not our hearts and think pragmatically. I think that Savage makes a very good point when he brings to light how much attention ( and therefore, money) is received by the "AIDS racketeers" when AIDS is a largely behavioral disease. There are other diseases that should have our attention that are not so behavioral, cancer being one. All that needs to be done with aids is a cheap campaign in public education to teach people about the disease and how it is spread, this could take the form of billboards and pamphlets distributed throughout undeveloped countries. It is that easy, even though the positive effects will not be seen immediately.
"Why this subhuman piece of garbage is on the radio with his audience is scary. Very scary. Tom Lantos was a great man , and survived the worst event in human histroy."-S.
You are frightened for you see this exchange of opinion in public as dangerous and thus want to stifle it, something that personally frightens me.
Lantos could have been a great man, but i did not know him personally. thew best we could do is look at his policies and positions, and generalize as to whether he is a great man or not but as in the case of McCain personal like ability is often irrespective of political like-ability. Something you may not have realized, but just because some Jewish fellow survived the holocaust does not make him a good man forever, and a saint in liberal heaven. Certainly it gives him respect as McCain's torture gives him respect, but this does not mean everyone should have to love them.
Your hyperbolic statement about the holocaust being the "worst" event in human history is inaccurate at best. There have certainly been lesser genocide of the Jews in other times and places that are never mentioned. Personally i would give this title to certain wars in history that have been more destructive, the entire WWII era begs the title.
Please no one else respond to this troll. He is either a Neo-Nazi, or playing a Neo-Nazi. And I mean this literally. He thinks the white race is superior; thinks we should go back to segregation; thinks slavery is a viable option; thinks that when whites and blacks marry, they muddy their gene pool; and hopes for the victory of the hard right in Europe. Here are just two of his posts:
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You my friend seem to be one of those who think that the right wing is
of a McCain type model. You are wrong, your outrage at savages "hate
speech" is nothing more than a reflexive regurgitation of the liberal
propaganda fed to you since childhood. I think that those days of
white dominion were grand old times, its what could be the golden age
of white civilization.
* - finarfin / Tuesday February 5, 2008 1:23:49 AM EST
John i salute you for defending conservative America along with men
like Savage. I see and it pains me greatly that Europe has gone the
way of authoritarian oppressive democracies draped in the burqa of
equality. The cradle of civilization has been lost to the radical
progressive Utopians and we can now see their ilk spouting socialism
on the democratic side. But there is hope, the nationalist hard-right
is re surging in Europe in the face of the injustice dealt upon it's
people, it may be a bloody political change yet no less weak a
movement would be able to overtake the deeply rooted progressive
liberalism.
* - finarfin / Tuesday February 5, 2008 1:18:18 AM EST
Funnypants, it is troubling that you consider it incredibly helpful to slander me, i really do not appreciate you trying to stifle my debate with others. If you find my views so terrible than you do not have to engage me in conversation, otherwise please desist from your watchdoggery.
I had previously thought that liberals actually championed free discusssion of opinion and open debate, but apparently this is only another of the meaningless veneers masking liberal hate. Do you not know that hate hurts America???
You can post here as much as you want; no one is stiffling your free speech.
Since you are a Neo Nazi (literally), and don't believe in free speech yourself, others are free to ignore you.
"Do you not know that hate hurts America???"
Of course you mean, "liberal hate," don't you Arf? Weinie's rants, including his hatred of anyone to the left of Generalissimo Franco, "have a point," right? And expressing outrage at the vileness of his vitriol qualifies, in your mind, as hate speech? Got it. As Truman said of Nixon, you talk out of both sides of your mouth better than most.
Of course we know that hate hurts America. So does Eurocentrism, which is a "gateway drug."
Please, don't give Finfarin any attention. He is literally a Neo Nazi. Just look at what he posted. And I can post more.
When he says "hate hurts America," he is either massively ignorant of how ironic that is (what is more hateful than Neo Nazis), or he is just playing the troll.
Eurocentricism is a basic fact of our outlook on history, I do not think it is something I should deny. A gateway to what?? Some sort of ethnocentricism? Maybe even nationalism???
For example, I think fin has a great argument when he compares Lantos and McCain. Sure, they both survived horrible events, but that doesn't grant them freedom from criticism on the policies and actions they took while in government. Do you think they deserve a free pass just because they survived horrors in their past?
I don't understand how anyone can be this heartless and vile.
Neither do I. Someone must have done something horrible to Michael Weiner when he was a child to make his the uncaring pig he is today.
(I realize it may be insensitive to call a Jewish man a pig - what with the Kosher laws and all - but I wanted to avoid posting one of the more descriptive words to describe this low-life that violate the MMFA rules......)
I think it's more insensitive to call Savage a 'Jewish man'
It's insulting to me, both as a Jew and as a man.
I give public figures a great deal of latitude when it comes to what they say about other adult public figures, they are generally big boys and girls who can defend themselves; but when it comes to speaking with such heinous disrespect as Savage is doing here about someone who cannot defend himself, it is beyond deplorable.
Not much surprises me anymore coming from this "man".
Savage, you're a coward.
That may be one of the nicest things people will have to say about the useless scumbag who calls himself Michael Savage. But his real name is Michael Weiner. (I'm not sure if that's pronounced "WHINE-er" or "WEE-ner" - either pronunciation fits.)
Actually his original last name would be pronounced Veye-nuh. His current last name is Savage, you attempt to make it sound as if he is trying to bury his current last name and that Savage is just a pseudonym. And why is it that some of the posters here find it amusing to call him Weiner? I realize that to those of grade-school humour this word is attractive because it is similar to the slang for a certain part of the male body, or do you just mean to call him a type of sausage? We certainly do not call others their original last name if it is not accurate.
Finfarrin wrat:
You my friend seem to be one of those who think that the right wing isof a McCain type model. You are wrong, your outrage at savages "hate
speech" is nothing more than a reflexive regurgitation of the liberal
propaganda fed to you since childhood. I think that those days of
white dominion were grand old times, its what could be the golden age
of white civilization.
* - finarfin / Tuesday February 5, 2008 1:23:49 AM EST
I have to say i hate it when he talks. Instead of leaving it alone... he keeps pushing and pushing. The man hates higher taxes.. yet the country under republican rule set it up so that it's going to happen anyway
Though the iraq war is suppose to be working, according to him, someone screwed that up.. and he's not talking about the Fisa bill... that thing that help our freedom to privacy.
I think his time is up..
SAVAGE: I am sick and tired of the taxes I pay, and I don't want to pay another dime.
...but you're okay with spending trillions of tax dollars to fund the insaninty of the Iraq war? How exactly would you fund the Iraq war, Mr. Savage, if it weren't for taxes? By eliminating all social programs?
Finfarrin wrote:
You my friend seem to be one of those who think that the right wing is
of a McCain type model. You are wrong, your outrage at savages "hate
speech" is nothing more than a reflexive regurgitation of the liberal
propaganda fed to you since childhood. I think that those days of
white dominion were grand old times, its what could be the golden age
of white civilization.
* - finarfin / Tuesday February 5, 2008 1:23:49 AM EST
Fin,
What have you done to support the troops? Are you enlisting? I want them home, but I support them by sending $$ for body armor and voting for those who take care of their needs after they have been wounded. You?
Oh, foul Savage, supp'd full with horrors; direness, familiar to his slaughterous thoughts, cannot once start me.
(apologies to Shakespeare's MacBeth)
Iraq itself was a huge foreign policy disaster itself, Weiner.
I agree that the whole 1915 Ottoman genocide bill was unnecessary and long overdue, but how did it screw up Iraq, which was already screwed up?
Fin wrote:
You my friend seem to be one of those who think that the right wing is
of a McCain type model. You are wrong, your outrage at savages "hate
speech" is nothing more than a reflexive regurgitation of the liberal
propaganda fed to you since childhood. I think that those days of
white dominion were grand old times, its what could be the golden age
of white civilization.
* - finarfin / Tuesday February 5, 2008 1:23:49 AM EST
first of all, these comments are not applicable to this current thread, they were originally from another. I do admit that Savage should not have said what he had said how he had said it. He could have worded his opinion differently. Second you are just wasting posting space with your attempt to slander/annoy me. i really do not care.
I sure am glad the likes of Michael "Savage" aka: Wiener (true name) are becoming more marginalized with each passing year. Example? The jihad he and others like him on biased conservative radio waged against John McCain and Mike Huckabee while trying to prop up favorites Thompson, Ghouliani and Romney (all very flawed and unremarkable men).
If Mr. Weiner despises "libruuls" so much why does he choose to reside in "libruul" Marin County in the dastardly San Francisco Bay Area? It is all show and even he is running out of insults against democrats judging by his cheap trashing of a recently passed and honorable Congressman and Holocaust survivor.
Mark my words Weiner will go after Senator Obama with racial slurs as the campaign progresses. He has a history of this behaviour and obviously feels he can get away with anything as his flunky bosses tolerate it.
The contact information that accompanies this item, maybe should also contain information about contacting the FCC, and it's Commissioners and those who work under them...
Because when this guy publicly insults the reputation and memory of a U.S. Representative from California, one day after his death, he was doing it by way of an FCC License, on our PUBLIC AIRWAVES.
Our PUBLIC AIRWAVES, Public Property, a Public resource, for which no person has any Right to use, but can only be broadcast on by way of a privileged FCC License...
And this is why we License out that Public resource, so this guy can slander a U.S. Representative one day after he has died?
I doubt it.
It's about time folks started realizing just whose property it is that's being used in this manner... a use that is a privilege not a Right, by way of an FCC License to broadcast on our Property, the PUBLIC AIRWAVES.
I don't know the guy, nor care to, but I'm reasonably sure he would not love to lose the privilege of using the PUBLIC AIRWAVES, our Public Property, by losing his (or in truth, the station owner's) FCC License.
There's no broadcaster or employee thereof, anywhere in America, who would love to lose the privilege of using our Public Property, the Public resource that is the PUBLIC AIRWAVES.
I'm talking about us being better stewards of our own Public Property, and being more attentive to whom it is we License out the privileged use of that property to, and what it is they're doing with that privilege, on our PUBLIC AIRWAVES.
It's really us and our property I was posting about, not that guy.
Well yea, he can play the victim role of being "sensored" by the "red doper diaper baby media elites". For the rest of his live he will revel in his victimhood. Its amazing how this guys project their own immiturities and insecurities.
I didn't know Lantos was a holicaust victim until I heard the Obit yesterday.
...and I'd add, that people mindlessly listening to the radio, in their car or at home or at work, no matter what numbers of them there may be, don't automatically qualify as anything you'd ever call "loyal" or "substantial" or "devoted".
No more than you would apply those terms to the many more millions of people who mindlessy stare at "Two and a Half Men" or o.j. simpson speeding down an L.A. freeway...
You're greatly overestimating the bored folks who click on the radio while they drive their cars, by describing them as "loyal" or "substantial" or "devoted".
Hey, man, I like Two And A Half Men... ;>)
Seriously, though, I don't recall Savage's exact numbers but apparently he has a very substantial audience in the millions. I would have to assume that many of his regular listeners must agree with his lunacy. Make no mistake, I think the guy is a despicable nut case and I wonder how his show remains on the air.
I was mindlessly clicking past his show myself recently and heard him say that over 10,000 listeners had donated money to his CAIR lawsuit, which I think is a pretty significant number, even if its only a fraction of his "8 million" total.
That's a lot of active hate right there.
This is one unhappy man---no one likes him and he likes no one. Were Lantos the bad guy that would be one thing---but he was not. Savage remind me of some other wannabees---big on defending the country until it comes time for him to defend the country, and then he runs away.
Would that he came to Atlanta so that I could buy him a beer and then turn him over to some headshrinkers so that they could dispatch him to the fool farm.
By dancing around things like this he diminishes the important points he makes---mayhaps like the proverbial busted clock that is right twice a day despite the universe's best efforts.
"Lantos may have had integrity at one time in his life, but he lost every shred of it when he supported and continued to support George Bush's war in Iraq. Nothing that he did in his life can excuse that, and he should be forever shamed "
To channel Oscar Fingal O'Flahertie Wilde, "The truth is rarely pure, and never simple."
In the run-up to the war, which I did and do condemn, I had many conversations with the doorman to my building, who grew up and spent his early adulthood under a dictatorship, in Albania. He was adamant that it was our sacred duty to take Saddam out, because he knew what that kind of life was like, and he knew that Saddam was even worse than what he'd experienced. I would think that Lantos's experience in his formative years might have had just such an impact on him, so I think your judgement is, to say the least, overly harsh.
Yeah..... I'm sure that the WeinerSavage will make this one exception.
I'm all a quiver to how Savage will ignore this tenent he has now imposed upon himself when Jimmy Carter dies or Alec Baldwin or Tim Robbins or Sean Penn or Bill Clinton or hell.... name your Democrat or liberal or anyone that at any time has taken the time to do his patriotic duty by speaking out or doing what he thought was right and proper for America!
This is as likely to happen as pigs flying or the Cubs winning the next three world series!
... or the Cubs winning the next three world series!
Low blow ! :-)
As the son of a Holocaust survivor, I would like nothing more than to punch Savage's lights out.
I know he's reading this.
Savage reminds me of the assclowns on the JTF site, They hate Blacks and gays as much as he does. Those are Savage's type of Jews.
So what was Lantos supposed to do - forget about it? Isn't that Savage and ilk want right now? Just forget about how we got there, it's done, it's over, no need to prosecute or anything, just forget about it and move on.
That's how cowards live.
He has said that "gay rabbis are paedophiles" - he has said "Sieg Heil" to George Soros (a Jew) - and he now attacks the only Holocaust survivor serving in Congress.
Savage... You filthy, filthy Nazi piece of human waste.
SAVE DEMOCRACY, VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT!!
The peer example of a conservative intelectual, not an oxymoron as much as it seems. This is a brillant man, a man with an intellectual capacity greater than 95% of society, and yet he's poisoned with self loathing. He's convinced himself if it appeals to his sensiblities, if he can imagine a rationale that will attract an audience that's good enough.
A case of an intellect divorced of his consciense speaking strictly about issues of consciense as seen from the sociopathic eyes rationalizing the inconsciensable for ratings.
I understand if he wrote a book that people read, I understand if he filled an concert hall, or was on pay per view, but the public airways?
Happy Thoughts;
Dan Grady
"somewhere out there in America is a small army of mentally challenged homophobes who agree with this idiot."
One of them even comments on this site! I think his name is Finfarin or something...
UPDATED CLOWN RATING.....
Annie Coulter....3 Red Bulb Noses
SavageWeiner is disgusting. I know he has millions of listeners, but how long do they listen each day? I believe that Hannity's radio listeners only listen for an average of 11 minutes/day, but he gets credit for all of them. Does anybody know if it is similar for SavageWeiner?
The best line here: "Do you understand what I just said to you?"
Reminds me of when Bush casually mentioned that he was "raised in the dessert" and then said "Did I just say those words?"
I would call this offensive if Savage said "I'm glad he dropped dead." but he didn't. I fail to see how calling a man a "scoundrel" is so offensive...especially when he backed up his opinion with a legitimate example of why he thinks so. Why is there an outcry here? Lantos was a liberal, and we know it is always hateful and wrong to speak negaltively of any liberal.
R.I.P. Congressman Lantos, but we did not agree with your politics and policies while you were with us.