MSNBC hosted Coulter and highlighted, without challenge, her assertion that Obama "wouldn't be running ... if he weren't half-black"
SUMMARY: MSNBC hosted right-wing pundit Ann Coulter to discuss the 2008 presidential race less than 24 hours after she repeatedly referred to Sen. Barack Obama as "B. Hussein Obama" and "President Hussein."
Less than 24 hours after she repeatedly referred to Sen. Barack Obama as "B. Hussein Obama" and "President Hussein," right-wing pundit Ann Coulter appeared on the February 14 broadcast of MSNBC News Live to discuss former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney's endorsement of Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain (AZ). During her appearance, on-screen text highlighted her February 8 assertion in a speech she made to the Young America's Foundation that Obama "wouldn't be running for president if he weren't half-black." The on-screen text read: "COULTER: OBAMA WOULDN'T BE RUNNING IF HE WERE NOT HALF BLACK."

In the Young America's Foundation speech, Coulter said: "[T]he only Democrat who can stop [Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton] now is B. Hussein Obama. His strongest selling point is that he is one of the least dangerous people I know named Hussein. Other than that, Barack's really been kind of coasting on his record, since his first big accomplishment of being born half-black." Coulter continued: "I keep hearing people say, 'Oh, Obama could never be elected because he's half-black. You know, 'cause we're just such a racist country.' What are they talking about? He wouldn't be running for president if he weren't half-black. He'd be [Sen.] Dick Durbin [D-IL] with less experience."
From the 4 p.m. ET hour of the February 14 edition of MSNBC News Live:
BREWER: Ann Coulter joins me now. It's great to meet you in person.
COULTER: Nice to meet you in person.
BREWER: All right. What do you make of this? Mitt Romney now is throwing the support that he has behind John McCain.
COULTER: Well, it's the gracious thing to do, and particularly if he wants to run again. But I think even if he weren't running again. He is -- certainly if he's running again, he has to endorse the Republican nominee. But he has to support the Republican apparatus. And by the way, I don't. I'm not running for president.
BREWER: And I want to play something that you said about John McCain a while back and whether you would support him or not. Do we have it? We don't have it.
COULTER: I think I know the gist of it.
BREWER: Well, can you just repeat it? Why don't you --
COULTER: Oh, there it is.
BREWER: Oh now, here you are. Let's play it.
COULTER [video clip]: ... our candidate, then Hillary's going to be our girl, Sean, 'cause she's more conservative than he is. I think she would be stronger on the war on terrorism. ... I will campaign for her if it's McCain.
BREWER: Wow. It looks at this point like it's probably going to be McCain. So my question to you is, when are you going to start campaigning for Hillary Clinton?
COULTER: Well, she's not doing that badly. It looks like she's up in the polls in Iowa. Neither of the Democrats can take it I think by the convention. So I think my gal's doing just fine.
BREWER: So she doesn't need your help, in other words?
COULTER: Yes. And probably won't need my help.
BREWER: Just throwing it out there. Why do you have such a problem with John McCain? You and Rush Limbaugh and Laura Ingraham last week at the CPAC convention -- right before Romney announces he's going to drop out of the race, and she's up there just ripping McCain apart.
COULTER: Well, I'm a conservative. And I'm not going to be running for president as a Republican, so I don't have to support whomever they nominate. And, you know, our campaign against Hillary will have to be: "She's no good. She voted for the bills our candidate introduced" -- like McCain-Feingold, like McCain-Kennedy, like McCain-Lieberman. He's actually campaigning for stuff we oppose her for supporting when she's seeking the nomination from the Democratic Party.
BREWER: But he got up in front of all these conservatives last week and he said, "OK, look, you guys have a problem with me on illegal immigration. Let me make myself clear" --
COULTER: Oh, and many more things.
BREWER: Let's start with illegal immigration. He says, "I care about border security too; it's not that I don't care about border security. Fine, you want that to be the first thing on the list? Let's get done; let's do that. There's just other things that I back the president on." Why is that a problem for you?
COULTER: Well, that isn't the only thing, but also in the last Republican debate he refused to say he would not push for amnesty. What he said was, oh, that won't come up again. And the questioner from the LA Times kept saying, "But, OK, this is a hypothetical. We're having a debate here. If it came up again, amnesty, McCain-Kennedy, would you sign it?" And he refused to just say, "No, I'm against it." I don't know why you'd change your mind that much anyway. And moreover, even at the speech before CPAC -- you know, his big appeal to conservatives -- what he says is, "I think only some of you are racists. I know most of you supported it for law-and-order reasons." Well, what about -- it was only some of us are racist.
BREWER: What about -- and you guys, you, and Rush Limbaugh, and Laura Ingraham, and other conservatives --
COULTER: Well, it's more than that. It's Thomas Sowell, George Will. It's basically all the conservatives --
BREWER: We could sit here all day and name off everybody else.
COULTER: But the reason I'm mentioning them by name is to make a specific point. And that is, curiously, despite years of, you know, the MSM trying to portray conservatives as six-fingered Neanderthals, all of the intellectual conservatives -- and I'm referring not necessarily to myself, but Thomas Sowell, George Will, Rush Limbaugh -- they are all against McCain. The people supporting McCain are party hacks or people who sort of have to.
BREWER: I mean, given the fact that he says the reason I didn't vote for the tax cuts the first time around is because there weren't spending cuts to go around --
COULTER: He didn't say that at the time.
BREWER: Here we have eight years of some of the biggest government spending that we have seen since FDR, and you have McCain who says, look, we've got to rein this in. Isn't that a very traditional, government, Republican platform? Isn't that the Republicans -- isn't that what they're supposed to stand for?
COULTER: Well, a couple of things on that. At the time, he didn't say only if spending cuts are attached. He said these are tax cuts for the rich. Moreover, if he's so interested in getting these earmarks down -- which is just boilerplate; you know, every politician says that -- why don't they do something about that?
BREWER: I know, but he is doing something about it. He has not put earmarks in his bills.
COULTER: Well, bully for him. How about instead of holding a hearing on baseball in steroids -- or steroids in baseball like he did two years ago, how about he holds a hearing on the earmarks? And number three, the fact that the MSM keeps arguing with me so ferociously about McCain suggests to me that I am right.
BREWER: If you're so right, Ann Coulter, then why are so many other people voting for John McCain against what your best advice is?
COULTER: We'll see what happens in the end. That's part of the reason I think McCain is such a disaster. The reason we have such a pathetic list of candidates on both sides this year is because of his campaign-finance bill -- law, which has grossly exaggerated the power of the mainstream media and the power of people like George Soros. John McCain is the candidate of George Soros. I mean, Soros picked both Obama and McCain.
BREWER: Well, and that's going to be a tough one if Obama ends up being the Democratic --
COULTER: Who does Soros go for?
BREWER: There you have a conundrum, definitely. Ann, thank you. I appreciate having you in here.
COULTER: Thank you.















Who here thinks Obama's skin color helps him in this race? I certainly do. It makes his story that much greater, that he can be the one to realize the dream that so many civil rights leaders have talked about for decades.
I doubt mid-40's caucasian men could pull off what Obama has done, inspire so many with the "change" message. Anybody think a white guy could beat Hillary Clinton in the Democratic party? Not me.
As I wrote below, if Keyes had actually been from Illinois instead of moving into the state just before the election, he would have done better. He might have actually beat Obama.
Don't forget too ... Obama was chosen to give the Dem convention keynote speech, and he delivered it, BEFORE he became a senator. The Dem party was giving him a boost. Why ? Do you think they would have done it if he were white ? I don't.
Why does Alan Keyes get single digit voting percentage results, if even?
Because there is a finite number of stupid people out there. And they all support useless idiots like Alan Keyes.
Unfortunately, his ideas are too wacked out even for the Troglodytes. That's why he'll never be President.
Oh. I was just the racist du jour that day ?
Btw, I meant to write that I voted for Obama to become the U.S. Senator from Illinois.
I was not in Illinois in 2000, so I had to look this up ...
Looks like in 200 he was running against the formidable and very popular (and black) Bobby Rush. (Wikipedia says that Rush was at that time a 4-term incumbent.) Rush got 61% and Obama got 30%.
http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/fe2000/ilh.htm
When Obama ran for the Senate in 2004, his only opponent was Keyes. In part because Keyes was such a blatant carpetbagger nobody could take him seriously, it was an easy win for Obama. Wikipedia has some good info about Obama's Dem rivals and how he overcame them.
Hi Bruce. I have said before on a thread that dealt with this comment that it is silly to think Obama's race is what got him where he is; rather I think his intelligence, charisma, and passion did that. I do think the Obama campaign is using race to give him an advantage though. For example: accusations of racism against the CLintons, Michelle Obama in speeches saying black people better wake up and saying it is our time now, Obama's campaign chair Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. trying to pursuade super delegates to switch their support from Clinton with threats like: "...do you want to go down in history as the one to prevent a black from winning the White House?" Is it wrong for them to use to their advantage what for so long has often been a disadvatage in getting ahead...I guess we each have to make that determination for ourselves. Personally, I don't have a problem with how Michelle Obama is using it in the instances I mentioned but I do have a problem with the false accusations against the Clintons and their campaign chairs comment are unsettling for me...I think they go over the line.
Look at how the media ignored John Edwards totally, and I think Obama would have gotten the same treatment except for his race.
I agree. Because he would have been just another wealthy and well-educated white Senator.
Bruce,
You make a very interesting point, but I am not sure I agree with you. Of course, I can only speak for myself - but I really believe Obama is where he is not because of his race, but because of where we are in this country, what we are looking for, and how he has tapped into that.
Thanks to Bush/Cheney, the war, and their arrogance, the country is so polarized and entrenched in their corners that your garden variety politicians have little chance of moving anyone, anywhere, from their marks. I think everyone was ready for Clinton, on the left, and the right was so messed up and demoralized they are just basically apathetic, look at their pathetic field of candidates for proof of that.
Then along comes Obama, a brilliant orator and an inspirational figure that doesn't pander to people's divisions through typical left vs. right battles, but rather appeals to our shared commonalities beyond red/blue state politics. That is not to say that he doesn't offer up liberal policies that I don't agree with, but I would rather have an honest liberal than a conservative I don't trust.
Also, many people, depsite the good times in the 90's, feel that another Clinton in the White House, followed by two Bush's, is just more polarization and division and rancor that people are just fed up with.
What the country is hungering for, Obama offers to many - his race is irrelevant, at least for me, in my opinion.
To all who want to believe Obama is only running because he's black or that his race is helping him, ask yourself this question - "Has every president we've ever had benefited from being a white male?" Your arguement is nonsensical and insulting. Hillary's only running because she's a woman, Mitt Romney only ran because he's Mormon, McCain is only running because he's a war vet. No they are running because they believe they are best to lead this country. Furthermore, how can his race be helping him, when at every turn someone is talking about it negatively? He's not black enough, he's muslim, he went to a madrassa as a child . . . The list continues. You racist conservatives and racist liberals don't realize your hatred of the man is what's fueling his success. America loves the underdog, check historically. So keep at it. You don't want it to happen but all over the world people are hopeful of racial equality and change in this country. You may think it can't happen, but millions of voices are saying "YES WE CAN!!"
See you in November chumps.
Your quote:
, saying the entire state of white folks would not elect a black man president?
First of all he did not say that at all. He said there were still some white people who would not vote for a black man. So, let's not state something incorrectly and then go after him for what he didn't say. And also that is not racist, but unfortunately a statement of fact. Even at this stage there are people who will not vote for a black just as there are still some who will not vote for a woman.
Read what I am saying. An elected official, in my opinion, should not be saying who will do what, if he does not know this to be 100% fact, where race is concerned. He does not know what Pennsylvania voters will do in this election and he should be more concerned with his. Again look at my previous post. What was the fall out when Jesse Jackson made an inappropriate comment about Jews. Your bias is not accepted for any other race accept African Americans. People made an issue out of Representative Ellison not being sworn in on a bible, but did not mention he's not the first elected official to not be sworn in on a bible. But I'll chill out.
Actually Canada Dry it is racist, because again, it is not appropriate for an elected official to spread his personal opinion on race to sway an election. Noone would stand for Mitt Romney saying "People won't vote for Lieberman because he's Jewish" even if it were true. It's biased. You know it, but you'll defend an indefensible point to not seem racist. Better luck next time Canada Dry.
Maybe the August heat is getting to you because it is definitely not racist. But then again no one can speak of Mr. Obama's race expcept his campaign or supporters when he accuses others of being racist. I wonder why a lot of his supporters love to talk about how he will be so good for helping the black community with their problems. So does that infer, as it does to me, that they are supporting him only because he is black and what he can do for the black community? Or how about Jesse Jackson Jr. calling on superdelegates and asking them do they really want to go against their black electorate and not help a black man become president? Sorry, but for me living in a more multicultural society than you appear to, what Rendell said was not racist. But many comments from Obama supporters are definietly becoming more racist sounding all the time.
I think race is a component of his enormous appeal, I've stated my reasons why and you obviously don't agree. If I'm wrong it wouldn't be the first time or the last. That's the way I see it. It seems as if you are interpreting my words to mean that I don't believe he is deserving of winning this nomination or Presidency. He is deserving, he is impressive and he has my vote in November.
Bruce what you just posted and what you've been defending are two different views. He's impressive, he's bright, these are the things Kennedy was judged on. These are the things FDR was respected for. Noone said after damn near three terms, that FDR wouldn't even be in office if he weren't white. It is a joke. All of you posters can't see your own hypocrisy, but you will understand change. You inject race where it shouldn't be and then say it's helping him. No it's better to say a man has made it on his own merit than to point out attributes he can't do anything about. It wasn't an issue with any other president and it is a big issue now. Do you not see the hypocrisy of America. Again, never has race been an issue, never has gender been an issue. We now have a black man and a white woman and look at some of the statements that have been mad about the two of them that have absolutely NOTHING to do with policy.
I respect your views Bruce, and I'm not just saying that. However, your perspective is all yours to defend.
How about this, August ...
If Hillary weren't running, I would have voted for Obama over Edwards. Why ? Because Obama is half black. Yes, that's why I would have done it ! I think they would both be competent, I really see no difference between the two. I would have voted for Obama because he brings racial diversity. And if there had been a competent full black candidate, I would have voted for THAT person. If it had been a woman, all the better !
August wrote: "You may think it can't happen, but millions of voices are saying 'YES WE CAN!!'. See you in Novermber chumps."
Chumps ? Very smart of you to alienate the people whose votes you need to net your candidate a win.
You have to understand that in the primaries and caucuses there have been many Republicans crossing over to vote the Dem ballot in order to oust Hillary. (Don't take my word for it, ask around, do 'net searches.) When it comes time for the general election, the Republicans will not cross over, so Obama will be missing those votes. And if you and the other Obamaniacs piss off the Hillary voters enough, he'll be missing the Hillary votes too. (MoveOn, DailyKos, Olbermann ... they're all doing a great job of this.) A sufficient lack of Hillary votes will ensure that Obama loses to John McCain.
Whether Obama's race helps him or not is irrelavent when it comes to Ann Coulter.
She is a vile creature who has the gall to write about the erosion of political discourse in this country... to which she contributes probably more than anyone else. Based on her history of saying anything to be provocative and to sell her books to the kooky-cons, I won't give her a pass on this one. Especially in context of her calling Obama the least dangerous person named Hussein. She is pulling out every race-baiting trick in the book in her actions, and she thinks she's funny.
To address your main point, though, Obama's race helps in some instances... and hurts in others. At Virginia's Jefferson-Jackson dinner, former governor Doug Wilder said he won his own high statewide office in a Commonwealth where he was told a black man could never win by conveying a message for all Virginians. He supports Obama because the Senator has a message for all Americans.
Neither Wilder nor Obama have preached racial divisiveness. Yet, the evidence of racial inequalities continue to show in crime rates, incarceration rates, and income disparities.
The difference between a Wilder or Obama and a Sharpton or Jackson is the former pair do not point fingers. Their message is how do we help raise the poor up together. For Obama, this has not just manifested itself in bringing out the black vote in droves... but in bringing out the youthful vote. He actually is bringing the 20-somethings to the polls.
Is that because of his race? Partly. Is it because of his message? Mostly. Is it because he's a black man with this message? Certainly so.
Conversely, is he subject to the "Wilder effect" (Virginia polls showing Wilder with anywhere from a 10-to-15-point lead a week prior to Wilder's 1989 election... but actually winning the election by the closest margin in Virginia's history)? Yes (remember New Hampshire).
So you people honestly believe that Obama would be running for President if he wasn't black?
If Barack Obama were not half-black, he'd be John Edwards.
She and Savage say basically the same provocative crap.... but, as you point out, we never see Savage on TV.
I disagree with your comment "Clinton camp is actually responsible for increasing Obama’s Black support". I think the media is the one who is responsible for this. Look at the "fairy tale" comment. Did Bill say Obama's campaign was like a "fairy tale"? Of course he didnt , but many people believe he did. And why is this? Because the media simply lied to their faces. Do you think the Clinton's are so dumb that they wouldn't know the media would absolutely savage them at the first hint of playing the race card? And all the other "examples" of racism are pretty slim. Did Bill compare Obama to Jesse Jackson? Of course the media believes he did. Or was he simply comparing Obamas victory in SC to Jackson's in 1984, and that Obama had an advantage because of the large black population in the state? It may have been an ill-advised response to a snotty question from a snotty reporter in a parking lot, but I wouldn't read too much into it. As Krugman said in the NY Times, the media is playing you like a fiddle on this issue. And by the way, given the Clintons past work in Civil rights, they deserve the benefit of the doubt a few 1000 times before labeling them racist (which i'm not saying you did).
By the way, I like Obama. But to think the media is not the one playing the race card here is somewhat misguided. They're definitely not innocent in all of this.
Well said, Lynn. If I might relate some personal history which is, I believe, relevant:
Recently, in organizing my late mother's effects, I came across a letter written to her by her beloved brother (and my namesake) on the day she gave birth to her first son (me.) In addition to congratulations and best wishes, my uncle included the observation/hope that I might become the first Catholic President of the United States. Seventeen years later, as a high school senior in Washington, D.C., I was privileged (and very well paid) to shovel snow all night, clearing sidewalks for the inauguration of the first Catholic president. It was a thrilling time for my family. We were Boston (not Southie) Irish, and my parents and uncles were politically active New Deal Democrats. My namesake uncle, incidentally, was a (much younger) law partner of Joseph Welch, of McCarthy Hearings fame, a source of great pride. JFK's Catholicism was not dispositive in gaining their support, although it clearly had great meaning. His political party and positions, along with his personal history and charisma were the major factors, along with the already apparent sleaziness of his opponent.
It would be hard, however, to overestimate the power of that historic victory. The day after the election the first words out of my Latin teacher's (an Augustinian priest)mouth were, "We're in. We no longer have to prove we're American. The rest of the country is going to see that the Swiss Guards aren't on the way, and the Pope has no more power here today than he had yesterday." It really meant that we were no longer second class citizens.
Today, either Hillary or Obama may well toss another second-class designation onto the ash heap of history, and I will be just as thrilled (well, maybe just a tad less) to see it. Obama's race is one of the things that makes the race compelling, as is Hillary's gender. Neither of those attributes entitle them to be president but, with their other qualities, they make for a watershed in our history, and I'm glad to have had something like this happen twice in my lifetime.
Lynn wrote: "There seems be this assumption by some in the White community across the political spectrum that being Black is somehow a plus."
I'm white, and I know plenty of whites who, when presented with a decision between a qualified white candidate and a qualified minority candidate, will choose the minority candidate because he/she is a minority. I do it all of the time, most recently in the Illinois primary.
Among racists, being black is definitely a deficit. But among non-racist whites, it can actually be an asset.
Just once I wish the show host would drop "It's great to see you again, Ann" in favor of something a little more fitting...
"So Ann, what kind of senseless crap are you going to spew to my audience today?" works.
Good one Snoop...
How 'bout this: "Annie, great to see you again. Why don't you just drop your drawers, drop a load, and head off to your next gig!"
It is truly amazing that MSNBC allows this freakshow to continue...
Are there any liberal commentators who are allowed to come on and just spread slime and filth about conservatives?...Just given a microphone to crap on the Cons?
This is not a leading question ...
I guess when someone is half white and half black, he/she is considered black.
Do you think the same is true of hispanic-black half-and-half mix ? Would you call that person black ? Or an asian-black mix ? Is a white-hispanic person a hispanic ?
How about just calling Obama an African- American. That's truly what he is since his dad is African and his mom is American.
I wish could be around long enough to see what a truly race neutral society looks like.
I've never liked the term "African American" because the vast majority of people who are called that are quite removed from Africa. I don't call myself a "Yugoslavian American" (I am half and half) or "European American". I do call myself white however, and having grown up in the 60's and considering "black" a powerful term, not an epithet, I call blacks black.
Actually Obama is, technically, truly African American. He's one of the few.
I wish could be around long enough to see what a truly race neutral society looks like.
I've thought a lot about this. I like cultural diversity. I like it when different groups, racial or ethnic or regional, have different speech and behavior. I like to notice the differences. One of the things I love about my husband is his very 'hood manner of speaking, which is completely different from my white middle class college-educated speech. I hope we don't all blend together and become one homogenous population. It would be great though if people would stop associating horrible negative stereotypes, like assuming someone is lazy or stupid just because of the way they look or speak. I don't know that that will ever happen.
Atheist, I advise you to read the book "Who Is Black?: One Nation's Definition." That book by sociologist F. James Davis goes into great detail about blackness and the one-drop rule in America. Here's a short article in Wikipedia about the one-drop rule.
As one young African American lady used to say in my college debate class:
"I'm not looking for this nation to be a 'melting pot', but a 'mulligan stew' of cultures and differences which are to be appreciated."
That was nearly 20 years ago, and I don't think she has any idea how much I appreciated that viewpoint... and have worked to live that since I heard it. Thank you for your eloquent post.
Let's face it, a society that would even give a woman like this a forum to express her views, much less tolerate -- no, encourage her expression of them by putting her on national television is a very, very sick society indeed. The right wingnuts are quick to condemn "liberals" for a supposed double standard that views us as decrying any attack on our Constitutional right of free speech on the one hand, and denunciation of Coultergeist, Michelle ("Dragon Lady") Malkin, and Laura Uglyam on the other. But one rarely sees "liberals" condemning anyone on the basis of race, creed, or color.
Ann Colder's homophobic rants against Bill Clinton, John Kerry, and John Edwards suggest that she equates liberalism with homosexuality, as if a person's sexual orientation is some sort of badge of dishonor. Did she take a freshman course in psychology? If so, did she read the chapter(s) on Freudian theory -- and, especially, "projection." People who go around labeling others as homosexual with no factual basis for their claims are more than likely homosexual themselves. And Colder, with that big Adam's apple of a neck, would seem to fit the bill as a big butch number, a veritable diesel dyke.
The reason I say that giving such people the time of day is "sick" is that it is redolent of the Weimer Republic during the rise of the National Socialist Party. Then, leftists, communists, and, later, Jews were the scapegoats; now, it is the sexual minorities. Colder and her kind seem to have studied the Nazi playbook well, so familiar they are with propaganda minister Goebbels' first principle of the Big Lie: tell a falsehood often enough and it becomes accepted as truth. I am not saying the media should "ban" these clowns, just ignore them. Give them no bully pulpits.
When the Colders of this world are limited to occasional appearances on Fox Noise, they will dry up and lose their audience. Then, Roger Ailes will be exposed as the de facto Goebbels that he is, the Emperor of Lies With No Clothes.
to political discourse...but She deserves it... And I am 100-percent certain that it is perfectly in keeping with Her standards of political debate,
To wit: hmm, how should I put this...ahh! let us just say that
She must have excellent hearing
I apologize to those who have kept their dignity...
P.S. I think it is a violation of my constitutional rights to have part or any of these comments Taken Out Of Context...Beware Cable News! ;o )
Will anyone weep when Ann Coulter dies?
How it must suck to make your way through life driven by nothing more than the desire of making people hate you.
What a pathetic figure she is.