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Days after Today apology for Fonda comment, MSNBC hosted Roger Stone of anti-Clinton group Citizens United Not Timid

February 20, 2008 7:41 pm ET

SUMMARY: Just days after NBC apologized for the use of the word "cunt" on Today, Republican consultant Roger Stone, who recently established the anti-Hillary Clinton group Citizens United Not Timid -- which emphasizes its acronym on its website and on T-shirts by bolding the first letter in each word of its name and purports to "educate the American public about what Hillary Clinton really is" -- appeared on MSNBC's Tucker.

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Since January 18, when Republican consultant Roger Stone established the anti-Hillary Clinton 527 group Citizens United Not Timid -- which emphasizes its acronym on its website and on T-shirts by bolding the first letter in each word of its name and purports to "educate the American public about what Hillary Clinton really is" -- he has twice appeared on MSNBC's Tucker. Stone was a guest on the January 28 edition of the show and most recently, as Media Matters for America Senior Fellow Eric Alterman and Jason Linkins noted, on February 18, just days after NBC apologized for Jane Fonda's use of the word "cunt" on Today during a discussion of the play The Vagina Monologues.

Tucker host Tucker Carlson identified Stone on both shows as "legendary Republican strategist Roger Stone" and did not note Stone's affiliation with Citizens United Not Timid. On the January 28 show, Carlson hosted Stone to discuss the Republican presidential primary in Florida. On February 18, Carlson and Stone discussed strategies Republicans could use to attack Democratic presidential candidates. At one point, Carlson asked Stone: "[W]hy haven't you seen really any commentary on either one of the Democratic candidates from Republicans? You have seen no independent expenditures of note. You haven't even seen really Republican talking heads coming out there and attacking either one in a systematic way. Is it that there's no energy on the Republican side or is this part of the strategy?"

In a January 28 Weekly Standard article, senior writer Matt Labash wrote that Stone, whom he described as "a professional dirty trickster and high priest of political hijinks," sent Labash an email stating simply: " 'Out of NH C.U.N.T. lives. Gearing up!' " According to Labash, Stone said of his 527 organization: "[I]t's one-word education. That's our mission. No issues. No policy groups. No position papers. This is a simple committee with an unfortunate acronym." Stone also reportedly told Labash that the group originally tried to come up with an acronym for "bitch": "The truth is, we sat around for hours trying to come up with words for B.I.T.C.H. and just couldn't do it."

Stone appeared on MSNBC four days after right-wing pundit Ann Coulter made another of her numerous appearances on the cable network or its parent company, NBC, and their appearances came at the end of a month-long period during which MSNBC host Chris Matthews apologized for sexist comments he made about Clinton and MSNBC correspondent David Shuster was suspended for a smear against the Clinton campaign and Chelsea Clinton. The events of the past few weeks are part of an extensive pattern, documented by Media Matters for America, of sexism, misogyny, and other bigotry heard on MSNBC.

From the website of Citizens United Not Timid:

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    • Author by snoopy (February 20, 2008 7:46 pm ET)
         
      Well righties, this must hurt. Hipocracy at it's finest. Defend away, losers!
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    • Author by pete592 (February 20, 2008 7:47 pm ET)
         
      Gotta hand it to the extreme fringe.  They're a classy bunch.
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      • Author by carlileb5935 (February 20, 2008 9:49 pm ET)
           

        It's absolutely imperative that MMFA start documenting MSNBC's outrageous conduct towards Hillary Clinton.

        They address FOX's institutional problems, and MSNBC's actions towards women in general.

        But when are they going to specfically address MSNBC's full scale, irrational and dishonest harassment campaign against Hillary Clinton?

        It's a glaring omission here. 

         

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      • Author by tommy (February 20, 2008 10:54 pm ET)
           
        Fringe elements don't worry about being classy, all they are interested in is their own self aggrandizement through hyperbole, offensiveness, and being bratty.  They garner little respect because they don't deal honestly in problem-solving, only to slime their opponents however they can.
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    • Author by The Stranger (February 20, 2008 7:47 pm ET)
         
      ...so did they wear those T-shirts on the show?
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (February 20, 2008 10:01 pm ET)
         
      What sleaze...! I have some reservations about Hillary Clinton but it has become clear to me that MSNBC has gone after her pretty hard. And, of course, Chris Matthews has long had an open man-crush on John McCain. In his adolescent, frat boy way I can see Tucker Carlson having Roger Stone on his show. Even Wolf Blitzer looks like a champion of integrity and professionalism compared to them. Very disappointing.
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      • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (February 20, 2008 11:28 pm ET)
           

        This doesn't seem like that much of a fringe group.I went to the website, which claims to expose what HRC really is, but the entire operation seems to be to get people to send 25 bucks for a t-shirt, with the proceeds going to selling more t-shirts.

        I was expecting something about Clinton's policies, or at least some wild murder stories, but there's nothing. About as much on the issues as most of our Republican media.

        The only enlightenment I got from the website was due to the Chairman of the thing putting his photo on the page.I'm guessing he hates most women .

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        • Author by IRONY 101 (February 20, 2008 11:52 pm ET)
             
          Sounds like Republican frat boy kinda stuff... Don't you hate politics sometimes?  ;>)
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    • Author by Clevenative (February 20, 2008 11:30 pm ET)
         

      "...the group originally tried to come up with an acronym for "bitc#": "The truth is, we sat around for hours trying to come up with words for B.I.T.C.H. and just couldn't do it."

      Bigoted Ignoramuses Tramping Clinton Haplessly

      The fact that I came up with that in 3 minutes tells you where they are coming from! Duhh - Maybe no one there made it past 6th grade? - Because they're attempt at "humor" is at about a 5th grade level.

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    • Author by the7sticks3363 (February 21, 2008 12:13 am ET)
         

      I'm a pretty profane young man myself, but for some reason, I just feel that particular word is inappropriate for anyone to say, no matter who you are. I think it was wrong for Jane Fonda to say it at a time when children maybe watching, just as much as I think it's wrong for these Hillary-hate groups to use the same word at her.

      By the way, Media Matters, that was pretty gutsy of you to actually print out the whole word and not just call it "c-word" the way conservative groups like PTC or MRC call it. I commend you for it because each time I see that phrase "f-bomb" or "f-word", I just want to punch my fist through my monitor. Thanks, MMFA.

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      • Author by onionhead (February 21, 2008 11:23 am ET)
           
        Actually, Fonda's use of the word was in context to the play, The Vagina Monologues.  The Clinton bashing site was just using it to be vicious.
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    • Author by magnolialover (February 21, 2008 9:19 am ET)
         
      Wow. Just wow. I didn't think that it could get worse than the SBVFT, but indeed, it has gotten a lot worse. Nice 4th grade taunting they're doing here. I wonder if it took them a whole 2 minutes to come up with this one. And they are even allowed on a national broadcast? What a joke that is in and of itself. Nobody, repeat, nobody should give credence of any sort to stupid, ignorant morons such as this. I rate these guys just below Fred Phelps and his inbred minions.
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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (February 21, 2008 11:58 am ET)
         

      I don't know what impresses me more about the Right...

      Their lack of decency, wit and tact...

      of their lack of capacity for intellignece discourse and rational argument.

      Hey PUB'S/CON's?  THIS KIND OF STUFF IS WHY YOU GUYS ARE LOSING!

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    • Author by dazedandconfused26 (February 21, 2008 1:38 pm ET)
         
      And this from the party of "the religious right." Refresh my memory which chapter of the bible is it where Jesus slurs women he doesnt agree with that way?
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    • Author by swift (February 21, 2008 2:58 pm ET)
         
      I myself kind of like the word, because it's Anglo-Saxon and short. D.H. Lawrence thought the same way. Of course, it's one thing to use it descriptively, and another to launch a schoolboy insult from it. Here's one campaign that would positively backlash against the GOP. Unless they're completely crazy, a real possibility, this will go nowhere. In normal years, word would come down from on high to drop this; but this year, the center will not hold with the GOP.

      When one leading candidate is a woman, and the other is a black man, you know this kind of idiocy is coming. Laugh and relax. The most uptight will lose this tussle. Laugh at 'em, and they're exposed as the morons they are.
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    • Author by sportsguydave (February 21, 2008 3:11 pm ET)
         

      Just more of what the "family values" crowd is really all about, huh?

      Pathetic.

      Can't we just give these freaks their own little chunk of the country or something? They'd apparently be so much happier among their own kind.

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    • Author by GotKids (February 21, 2008 4:11 pm ET)
         

      I know this sounds awfully conspiratorial but here goes anyway.

      Tucker Carlson is an admitted ("I know I'm a right winger") shill for the right. A conniving instigtigator whenever possible who would like nothing less than to rant against a Hillary Clinton Democratic nominee for president.

      So what does he do? Whenever possible rachet up the Hillary supporters in defense of their candidate. This is turn drives up her ratings, her contributions and if possible saves her the nomination.

      I know this is grabbing a straws and I mean no disrespect to the Hillary supporters, but I don't put anything past the Republicans.

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    • Author by atheist (February 21, 2008 4:26 pm ET)
         
      Is MSNBC run by a bunch of 13 year old boys ???
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      • Author by atheist (February 21, 2008 4:32 pm ET)
           
        Btw, what if some anti-Obama group came up with a clever group name with initials N.I.G.G.*.R. ?  Wouldn't there be outrage ?  
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    • Author by friedbergboy1422 (February 21, 2008 6:06 pm ET)
         
      My new group is called Stuly Coloradoans Against McCain
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