On Fox, Luntz asked debate focus group of Clinton and Obama: "[H]ow many of you want them to make love to each other?"
SUMMARY: On Hannity & Colmes, while conducting a focus group analysis of the February 21 Democratic presidential debate, Frank Luntz asked the focus group participants: "How many of you want [Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton] to really argue? Raise your hands." Luntz then asked: "And how many of you want them to make love to each other?"
On the February 21 edition of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes, while conducting a focus group analysis of the February 21 Democratic presidential debate, Fox News contributor Frank Luntz asked focus group participants if they "wanted" to see Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton "argue." When several of the participants responded, "Yes," Luntz asked, "You want them to take it on? You all agree with that?" After more participants concurred, Luntz asked: "How many of you want them to really argue? Raise your hands." Luntz then asked: "And how many of you want them to make love to each other?"
Luntz has a history of reported reprimand and censure by his peers. In 1997, the American Association for Public Opinion Research reprimanded Luntz for refusing to release documentation in support of comments he made to the media regarding his polling work on the Contract with America, according to a 2000 Salon.com article. Washington Post polling director Richard Morin reported in 2000 that the National Council on Public Polls "censured pollster Frank Luntz for allegedly mischaracterizing on MSNBC the results of focus groups he conducted during the [2000] Republican Convention."
From the February 21 edition of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes:
ALAN COLMES (co-host): Well, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton squared off in another debate tonight in Texas. Our own Frank Luntz is on the ground for a reaction from a new focus group of undecided Democratic voters. And, Frank, we here, we didn't see it. We're busy in show prep and doing our show. So maybe you can fill us in. How did it go tonight, and what's the crowd there saying?
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LUNTZ: Your reaction to the debate?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It was somewhat bland. It wasn't the fireworks that we were led to believe.
LUNTZ: So you wanted fireworks?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I sure did. I agree with everybody else that says that basically the two of them agreed on everything.
LUNTZ: You guys wanted fireworks?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.
LUNTZ: No, you don't. You're Democrats. Don't you want to defeat George Bush and John McCain and all that Republican stuff?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We already have.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think the Democrats are going to win anyhow.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Regardless. But, we need to get the best candidate out there. And if they're not going to debate each other, what's the use? I mean, they're agreeing with each other. Hillary's nodding her head all night long.
LUNTZ: You wanted them to argue?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
LUNTZ: You want them to take it on. You all agree with that?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.
LUNTZ: How many of you want them to really argue? Raise your hands. And how many of you want them to make love to each other? Alan, go ahead.
COLMES: Frank, what I want to know is how many people changed their vote because of tonight and which way did they change it?
LUNTZ: This is a question. Did any of you walk in here supporting Hillary and now supports Obama? None of you.
Did anyone here walk in here supporting Obama and now support Senator Clinton? None of you.
Who were the undecideds when you walked in? Truly, deeply undecided? Where did you go?
STRANGER:
Too late. You're already one of our sickest posters.
There's a big difference.
You get the talking points of the Republican Party and commentary from every washed up GOP politician.
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Democrats are dummies?
Well alrighty then. Thanks Johnny.
I'm not sure if you can apply online or not.
Hey, if Rick Santorum can make it you have at least a 50/50 shot.
I wish I worked for FOX, maybe I could get rid of Hannity.
I know it sounds crazy, but sometimes when I'm really bored I think about these things. :-)
I doubt this raised too many eyebrows, considering it's obviously a silly play on words, except for those who are wound way too tight.
I agree Tommy. This is hardly a huge deal...Besides wasn't it Liberals that used to like to say "Make Love Not War"? I would think they'd be the first to warm up to the way this was asked ;-)
My sweet Julia, please allow us to tap into your imagination more often...
Hehehe ;-)
You’re probably right; this is just a little silly play on words. If you’ve ever seen Luntz on Bill Maher’s show you know he has a pretty irreverent sense of humor. He’s still a partisan hack although that seems to have lessened somewhat over the Bush years. That said I wish all the press would stop talking about or alluding to anything about the sex lives of these candidates. Just the thought of the possibility that a Viagraed up John McCain might have gotten his grove on with a 40 year old is too much for the imagination. Yucky icky, leave it alone. Besides, I don’t even believe McCain can muster that much energy even on Viagra fuel.Hey Lynn, why don't you join Obama tonite for a dinner of fried chicken, watermelon and grape soda? Maybe get some gumbo and cornbread in too?
Before you get all offended, your Viagra comment was no better.
Weren't my comments just joking too? I could quote you several major movie titles with similar jokes in them.
If you find my joke different than yours, I would submit that you chose "viagra" in your joke because of Mr. McCain's age. Age discrimination and stereotyping exist too. Since you are frequently offended, given your past posts on several different topics, I thought you might enjoy some banter since all of a sudden you were ok with making stereotype jokes.
Well damn, now I'm hungry. Lynn how about sharing that fried chicken recipe? Maybe I can get my wife to make it. The closest I get to fried chicken these days is KFC. I haven't had real fried chicken in like a zillion years... my Mom used to fry it up in an electric skillet when we were kids & nobody worried too much about fat & cholesterol...
These days my wife puts Oven Fry on the chicken, not bad tasting but no where near the real stuff.
What exactly is gumbo? I've heard of it of course, but never really knew what it was. If it's spicy I bet I'd like it.
BTW, I didn't think your joke about viagra & McCain was offensive.
For the best effect you need one of those good old BLACK iron frying pans, but you can use the regular non-stick deep fryer too. Clean your chicken very well of course and lightly season the chicken itself with salt and pepper. The bulk of the seasoning you put in the flour. You will need 1 cup of all-purpose flour and you mix in 2 teaspoons garlic powder, 1 teaspoon of onion powder, 3 teaspoons of seasoned salt, and a dash of poultry seasoning and 1 teaspoon of black pepper. Put the flour mixture in a plastic storage bag (we used to use a brown paper bag) and add chicken pieces in it and shake well, Make sure the pieces are completely coated. Use any kind of shortening (liquid or the solid.) Make sure there is about 1 inch of shortening that has been heated to about 325 to 350 degrees. Make sure it's really hot when you put the chicken in it, but turn the flame down to a moderately low level once the chicken is in the pan. You want to make sure to cook the chicken all the way through. If the flame is to high the coating and outside of the chicken will cook to quickly and the inside will be bloody. Play around with it a couple of times. My mother first taught me to fry chicken when I was about 15. It took a couple of times before I got it down just right. You can also play around with the seasoning and add particular flavors you like.
Thanks Lynn :-)
I just copied & pasted the recipe, can't wait to try it!
Lynn, Just heard on CNN that your have plagarized this recipe...Family recipe, too bad. Julia Childs' estate is up in arms. But it sounds great. And good spaghetti sauces recipes out there.
P.S. Don't tell my mom I was asking.
By the way, Luntzie, try making love to your partner every now and then. It'll keep you off the air for about 10 seconds.
"The closest I get to fried chicken these days is KFC. I haven't had real fried chicken in like a zillion years" (Jeter)
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Sorry Colonel Sanders, I didn't mean to insult you...heck your fried chicken is finger lickin good.
I just think Lynn's will be better ;-)
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(I got the goatee the first time, but forgot the string tie)
Did anyone else?
Perhaps the proper question then would have been "How many of you want the Republican candidates for president to make love to Ronald Reagan?"
I have to say, Frank Luntz is really terrible at speaking to an audience, especially a Democratic one. He always seems condescending and petty.
To me it sounded like he was getting peeved at the group for saying that the Dems have already won. No fight is needed. He struck back with this deliberately condescending "wise crack".
Just because the circus is fun to watch doesn't mean I want to be on the highwire.
Lynn, I do have to say it's definitely a logical puzzle as to why men enjoy watching women enjoy each other but it doesn't go the other way.
I suppose it's the same reason why homosexual women seem to be attracted to other homosexual women who dress like dudes. I'll never understand that, ever.
I don't remember who exactly said this, but I heard this before that women's bodies are works of art, while mens' bodies are generally utilitarian.
The girl on girl action is largely a male fantasy because a three-way is largely a male fantasy. All you need is your imagination to put yourself into the three-way.
You heard that on Seinfeld. Elaine said that to Jerry. It was the episode where some girl Jerry was dating walked around naked [in his apartment] whenever she was over.
This may be total nonsense, but it sounds logical to me.
Nerzog,
Simple explanation: We men are pigs ;-)
Red Dwarf had an interesting play on this. The boys stumbled into an alternative reality to find female equivelents. The very uptight character Rimmer was drug off by his female self. She insisted that she had some man on man porn that would get him hot.
Men who enjoy G on G porn may just be jealous or contain female identity elements inside themselves which they cannot aknowledge.
"...So most gals that would be having gal on gal action would never want gal on guy action so you would never be able to get in on the action"
You'll never fly that airplane
You'll never go to the moon
You'll never sail to the New World
We're men, Lynn, we're too stoopid to listen to that sort of quitter talk! ;0)
"Frank Luntz is a media tool who shapes the perceptions of the somnambulists, the ignorant, the apathetic, and those with a low IQ."
Sounds about right to me.