Limbaugh defended Cunningham's use of Obama's middle name

SUMMARY: On his radio show, Rush Limbaugh defended Bill Cunningham's comments at a rally for Sen. John McCain in which Cunningham repeatedly referred to Sen. Barack Obama as "Barack Hussein Obama." Limbaugh reacted to the incident, saying, "Now, may I ask a simple question? Is that his name? It is. So why can't it be used?"
On the February 26 edition of his nationally syndicated radio show, host Rush Limbaugh defended comments made by Cincinnati radio talk-show host Bill Cunningham at a rally for Sen. John McCain in which Cunningham repeatedly referred to Sen. Barack Obama as "Barack Hussein Obama." McCain subsequently denounced Cunningham's comments. Limbaugh reacted to the incident, saying, "Now, may I ask a simple question? Is that his [Obama's] name? It is. So why can't it be used?" He said: "[W]hat if the Democrats start talking about John Sidney McCain? Is somebody going to say, 'We're not going to tolerate that. ... [T]hat's the kind of disparaging reference to my opponent we're not going to put up with'? His middle name is Hussein. 'C'mon, Rush. You know they're trying to use it in a disparaging way.' How? Because Saddam Hussein? Because it's a -- it's an Arabic name? What? It's his name."
Limbaugh later stated: "This Hussein business -- that could backfire. I mean, it's so charged that it's -- it's almost one of those things that could arouse sympathy for Obama, but regardless, I can't believe that somebody's name is off limits. I just can't believe it."
Returning to the subject later in the program, Limbaugh said, "I have a question about this business that we can't use Barack Hussein Obama or that if somebody in McCain's camp does, McCain's gonna apologize for it and, you know, get rid of this disparaging term. If Obama is given a free pass because of his father's heritage -- you know, one generation removed. I mean, if he's given a pass for that, then a question: Are all white Americans going to continue to be held responsible for their alleged racist forebears, multiple generations removed?"
Limbaugh also defended Cunningham's comments on the February 27 edition of his show and asserted that "we're getting dangerously close here to where the liberals are telling us what we can and can't say." He went on to say that "Senator McCain should start pretending that liberal Democrats are conservative Republicans, and then he can cuss them out and throw them under his bus. Because if anybody needs to be thrown under his bus, it's liberal Democrats."
On the February 28 edition of his show, discussing media coverage of his comments, Limbaugh asserted: "Now, the drive-bys are insinuating that I think calling Obama by his middle name to highlight something Muslim is legitimate. Wrong again. I have never said -- all I said was, 'We're going to let these guys tell us what we can't say?' We can't -- you know, Obama doesn't like his middle name being used, so we can't use it? What are we going to call him? Barack Fitzgerald Obama? Barack Earl Obama? What, are we going to give him some other middle name?" He later added: "But somehow, when Obama doesn't want his middle name used or if he doesn't want to be called a liberal, then our guys -- 'OK, OK, fine, fine, whatever you want.' So defensive and so afraid. That's what I pointed out. I've never said he's a Muslim." Later on in the program, he stated: "Really, on what basis involving anything involving me here is this a smear or is this ugly? All I said was to Senator McCain, 'You know, it'd be nice if you'd start treating liberal Democrats the way you treat some conservative Republicans. Treat them as the enemy, throw them under your bus.' "
From the February 26 edition of Premiere Radio Networks' The Rush Limbaugh Show:
LIMBAUGH: We never see Republicans on TV attacking liberals the way we are constantly attacked. We just don't do it. We're not -- we don't have warriors. We got -- we have some. They're just not in elected office, at least federally. I think there's some -- some effervescence out there, if you will, in the warrior class in the state legislatures, governors' mansions, and this sort of thing. But it is an excellent point, and here is an illustration of what I'm talking about.
McCain's in Cincinnati. MSNBC is reporting that a McCain supporter repeated -- repeatedly calls Barack Obama "Barack Hussein Obama." The guy -- this supporter -- I think it was a Cincinnati talk-show host, but I'm not sure -- was on the mic at a McCain rally, kept referring to Obama as Barack Hussein Obama.
Now, may I ask a simple question? Is that his name? It is. So why can't it be used? Because McCain apologized for this. McCain went out there after the event was over and virtually apologized and said that kind of disparaging reference to his opponent is not the way he runs his campaign. He said he accepts full responsibility for it because his campaign set up the event, but he didn't know that the talk show host was going to be speaking.
So it's Barack Hussein Obama. Now, we don't make a big deal out of it here, but other people do, and it happened at a McCain rally, and McCain went out there -- "it's -- it's -- I'm sorry. It's uncalled for. It's uncalled for in American politics. It just ain't gonna happen. I take full responsibility, although he did it. I didn't even know he was going to be here."
Now, what if McCain's middle name was Adolf instead of Sidney? What -- his name is Sidney. What if Obama -- what if the Democrats start talking about John Sidney McCain? Is somebody going to say, "We're not going to tolerate that. That's -- that's -- that's -- that's -- that's the kind of disparaging reference to my opponent we're not going to put up with"? His middle name is Hussein. "C'mon, Rush. You know they're trying to use it in a disparaging way." How? Because Saddam Hussein? Because it's a -- it's an Arabic name? What? It's his name.
As I say, we don't make a big deal out of it here, but this just illustrates the fact we're not even going to do that. And in fact, if somebody does call him Hussein -- because we're going to apologize for it because it's disparaging. So we're going into this defensively.
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LIMBAUGH: OK, so his name is off limits. Can't use Hussein. You can't call him a liberal. What other facts about Obama are we not going to be allowed to talk about? That's right -- can't talk about his ears either, because when Maureen Dowd made some comment about his ears, he went straight into the crowd and said, "I'm very sensitive about my ears." She said, "We're trying to toughen you up." Well, it hasn't worked. Can't use the name Hussein, can't call him a liberal.
And this is the kind of thing this -- look, it's brilliant on Obama's part. He's setting the rules and everybody's going to abide by them. Republican National Committee -- "OK, we can't call him a liberal because he's going to -- he's going to tear into us. We don't want him tearing into us." Well, I don't know how you're going to characterize his policies if you don't call him a liberal.
And by the way, what's so bad about being a liberal? How come none of these liberals want to be called liberals? See, Obama's no different than any of the rest of them, folks. No different at all. Nothing new here. The only thing new is the Democrats have now made it official that their guiding principle is, "America sucks." But they have to mask who they are, they have to disguise themselves, camouflage themselves -- whatever. You call them a liberal, and it's a personal attack.
And so Obama's now said liberal's off limits, can't do it. What will the Republicans do? Your guess is as good as mine, but I hope they don't shy away from that. This Hussein business -- that could backfire. I mean, it's so charged that it's -- it's almost one of those things that could arouse sympathy for Obama, but regardless, I can't believe that somebody's name is off limits. I just can't believe it.
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LIMBAUGH: Now, I have a question about this business that we can't use Barack Hussein Obama or that if somebody in McCain's camp does, McCain's gonna apologize for it and, you know, get rid of this disparaging term. If Obama is given a free pass because of his father's heritage -- you know, one generation removed. I mean, if he's given a pass for that, then a question: Are all white Americans going to continue to be held responsible for their alleged racist forebears, multiple generations removed? Of course. Why ask? It's a stupid question. Of course they are.
But you could say, "OK. Obama, you don't want the name of Hussein used, we'll give you a pass, if black America gives all of us a pass." I mean, isn't -- isn't that what the primary reason that a lot of white Americans want Barack Obama because Barack Obama offers absolution for sins that they aren't even responsible for?
Well, that -- I mean, that's just the whole "Magic Negro" concept, that white people vote for him not knowing what he stands for, don't care what the stands for, 'cause it makes them feel like they're getting rid of their racial sins and that, you know, discrimination, racism they never even committed.
So it's, it's -- this -- this is a classic example, by the way. You know, I, I said, anybody think -- somebody called here and, and asked if, "Well, if Obama is actually elected president, is it -- is it gonna end racism in America?" Oh. It's gonna get even better. It's gonna expand. It is -- the race business will become more heated than ever before. You wait, folks. I know what I'm talking about here. You know that and I know that.
From the February 27 edition of The Rush Limbaugh Show:
LIMBAUGH: I'm sure you've all heard -- yesterday, when I talked about this, I did not know that it was Bill Cunningham who was the talk-show host in Cincinnati who had warmed up the audience for McCain. And then, of course, he kept talking about -- I guess he mentioned three times Barack Hussein Obama. And McCain claimed after the -- Cunningham finished, McCain did his remarks, the rally. And after that, when he was told what happened, he immediately apologized, threw Cunningham under the Straight Talk Express and disavowed it, and said this kind of stuff's not going to happen in his campaign anymore because Obama and Hillary are honorable people.
Here is -- here's a little of what Cunningham said in Cincinnati yesterday, warming up the crowd. And by the way, Cunningham says, "What'd they ask me to do? They wanted me to warm up the crowd, go out and get people ready for McCain" -- you know, McCain's trying to build his bona fides with conservatives. They hire this conservative talk-show host to go out and warm up the crown, and this is what Bill Cunningham said:
CUNNINGHAM [audio clip]: At some point in the near future, the media -- the stooges from The New York Times; CBS, the Clinton Broadcasting System; NBC, the Nobody But Clinton network; the All Bill Clinton channel, ABC; and the Clinton News Network at some point is going to peel the bark off Barack Hussein Obama. That day will come. At some point, the media will quit taking sides in this thing and maybe start covering Barack Hussein Obama the same way they cover Bush, the same way they cover Cheney, and the same way they cover every Republican. I'll look forward to that day when truth comes. I look forward to that.
LIMBAUGH: OK. So in that bite, Cunningham says "Barack Hussein Obama" twice. There have since been a number of people saying this is not a wise thing to do. Now, I commented on it yesterday -- we don't harp on his name on this program for a host of reasons. Even Karl Rove has come out today and said, "Don't do this. It's not -- it's not productive. It's not going to accomplish anything."
It's -- you know, my reaction is, we're getting dangerously close here to where the liberals are telling us what we can and can't say. We can't use the guy's name. We also cannot call him a liberal. He says he doesn't want to be called a liberal. Says he's not -- we can't call him a liberal. And we're not supposed to talk about his ties with [Nation of Islam leader Louis] Farrakhan, at least -- not his ties, but Farrakhan endorsing him. And we're not supposed to really talk much about his pastor. We're not supposed to talk -- so, with the Republican National Committee writing all these memos saying, "Eh, we gotta be careful how we go after Barack Obama because we don't want to be perceived as racist or sexist and what have you."
So this is why -- I'm going to repeat myself -- this is why I have wanted Mrs. Clinton to stay viable and in this, because Obama needs to be bloodied up a little politically, and it's clear that our side isn't going to do it. And I admit, it's gonna be tough. Because I said last hour, he's not leading a campaign. He doesn't have a bunch of people that are supporting him because of his stand on the issues, even though his stand on the issues is discernable. That's not why they support him. What he's got is a movement going on. He's got, maybe, exaggerating, saying it's a cult, but I mean, that makes the point -- he's got people that don't care.
Look, I saw this. I saw this with Perot back in 1992. The people that were following Ross Perot early did not care to hear anything negative. It didn't register; bounced right off. They thought that people were trying to do unfair damage to their guy. It's gonna be the same thing here with Obama. And the Republicans are gonna have to be careful about making fun of Obama's supporters, too, 'cause that's not gonna drive them away. It's gonna be a delicate balancing act because all the restrictions now that are in place. Can't call him Barack Hussein Obama, can't use his real name. Can't we call him BHO. You know, presidents have initials. W is W, but JFK, RFK. We refer to Reagan as President Reagan. Jimmy Carter, JEC -- we didn't call him Jimmy early on. But sometimes presidents are known by their three initials. BHO. Or are we going to call him BO. Don't think we're going to do that. I don't think the popular vernacular -- if he becomes president, we're gonna -- we're not going to say, "BO! BO!" No, we'll say Barack. Or Obama.
But we're being told can't use Hussein, being told we can't talk about him being a liberal.
But I want to get Bill Cunningham off the hook here a little bit. Bill, apparently you're not to blame for this. I am. On CNN, The Situation Room last night, Wolf Blitzer is talking to John King, a reporter-ette and contributor -- or reporter -- contributor-ette Gloria Borger. John King said, "You know, they knew they were taking a risk by having Cunningham there, but they wanted him on board the campaign. And now they say that the risk backfired. Senator McCain obviously having to come out, it's embarrassing. He wanted to talk about Iraq and the economy today, instead he had to repudiate one of his own supporters."
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BORGER: I think John McCain would take every conservative radio talk-show host he can get right now on his campaign, given where Rush Limbaugh stands on him. So, this fellow is a conservative radio talk-show host, except he ended up embarrassing the campaign and now, of course, he's disowned the campaign completely, so this is something -- if they want to be ready for primetime, they gotta watch out for these things.
BLITZER: But you know what? I've known John McCain for a long time, and it does underscore that he is a decent, decent person to so quickly go out and repudiate what this conservative radio talk-show host had to say. He didn't mince any words, saying he doesn't want to run a campaign against either Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama using this kind of language.
[end audio clip]
LIMBAUGH: Yeah, there's a translation for that, and that is that my criticism forced McCain to associate with talk-radio hosts, and it got him in trouble. But still, he's a great guy now because he threw a talk-radio host under the bus. So, people like me -- I made McCain's camp go out and try to get the support of a talk-show host. They got the support of a talk-show host, and they threw the talk-show host under the bus. So this is -- I translate what CNN was saying.
Here's, by the way, what McCain said. He rushed to the microphones to apologize after his rally yesterday.
McCAIN [audio clip]: I regret any comments that may be made about these two individuals who are honorable Americans. We just have strong philosophical differences. And so I want to disassociate myself from any disparaging remarks that may have been said about -- I will take responsibility in any offense that was inflicted. I apologize for -- I will take that responsibility. Whatever suggestion was made that was in any way disparaging to the integrity, character, honesty of either Senator Obama or Senator Clinton was wrong, and I condemn it. And if I have any responsibility, I will take responsibility, and I apologize for it.
LIMBAUGH: Now, I haven't heard everything Bill Cunningham said, but I don't think he's -- he was probably more disparaging of the drive-bys than he was of Obama. See, all he did was, "Here's Obama middle name." Now, I didn't -- again, I didn't hear the whole thing, but I'm wondering if McCain heard what he said either. I know McCain wasn't there when he said it, I know McCain wasn't there when he said it, but I'm wondering if McCain got an accurate portrayal of what he said.
You know, Rob Portman, who is director OMB, former congressman from Ohio -- and I know Rob Portman and his wife, and they are great people. And Portman was the guy who went out and got Cunningham and asked him to do this, from what I understand.
One more bite because McCain also had said yesterday he'd never met Cunningham, but Cunningham was on CNN's Election Center last night and said he has met McCain. John Roberts said to Cunningham, "Have you ever met John McCain?"
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CUNNINGHAM: Twice.
ROBERTS: He said he's never met you.
CUNNINGHAM: He's got a bad memory.
ROBERTS: When did you meet him?
CUNNINGHAM: I met him at the home of Bob Ryan, who is a friend of mine in Cincinnati, and I met him at the Kentwood Country Club in Cincinnati, Ohio, in the presence of [former] Senator Mike DeWine. I met him twice. His people called me specifically. His people said, "You're the guy we want because you've met John." But I'm not going to meet him again. I've had it up to here with McCain. He's off the list. I'm joining Ann Coulter in supporting Hillary Rodham Clinton.
[end audio clip]
LIMBAUGH: He also said that McCain threw him under the Straight Talk Express. So anyway, it just keeps on. It just keeps on.
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LIMBAUGH: Yeah, yeah. That Cunningham guy. It's so awful what he said. So awful. I mean, daring to speak Obama's full name? Who does Cunningham think he is? And then, after making that mistake, Cunningham then had the audacity to say that Obama is tied to the Chicago political machine. How over the top was that? We can't have this in the Republican Party. If we -- I mean, you can't -- we can't go anywhere if we're going to name our candidates, our opponents. If we can't talk about their names, if we can't talk about the fact that they're part of the Chicago political machine.
You know, I think Senator McCain would be well-advised -- and far be it from me to -- advice comes from me, he's not going to accept it, but -- Senator McCain should start pretending that liberal Democrats are conservative Republicans, and then he can cuss them out and throw them under his bus. Because if anybody needs to be thrown under his bus, it's liberal Democrats.
Remember, ladies and gentlemen, there was a campaign event -- and I don't know, this might have been back in South Carolina. I forget the state. But there was a woman in the audience talking about Hillary when McCain was on the stage. And the woman called Hillary a bitch, do you remember this? And McCain chuckled. I think the woman said, "How we gonna beat the B-I-itch?" Said it right in front of McCain. I don't think he denounced this babe in the audience, but he denounces Cunningham, who he didn't even hear, for saying Obama's middle name.
So, I don't know. I just -- you just got to stop accepting the premises of the left, folks. And I'll tell you, this business of going out of your way to please the drive-by media and throwing your own supporters under the bus. I mean, if McCain was unhappy with what Cunningham said, there's a better way of dealing with this than to go out and throw him under the bus this way. There's a better way of dealing with it.
[impersonating McCain] "I didn't hear it. So I can't say yet. I'm gonna find out. I'm gonna find out what we said, I'm gonna find out who asked this guy, and I'm gonna talk to this guy. And then I'll get back to you."
But no. Throw the guy under the bus.
From the February 28 edition of The Rush Limbaugh Show:
LIMBAUGH: The drive-by media continues to misreport either by design or by accident this whole controversy over Obama's middle name and me. Twice now, in drive-by coverage, they've misconstrued -- it's either laziness or malice, and perhaps both -- the context of what I have said. The first time was when The New York Times smeared McCain on this lobbyist and the sex angle. What the drive-bys said that conservatives rallied to McCain, even Rush Limbaugh. They were all -- I mean, I don't care where you go, whatever cable network you went to, whatever newspaper you opened up: "Limbaugh, fellow conservatives rally to McCain."
I never addressed support or non-support for McCain. I was talking about the issue on the table, which is, this is what happens when conservatives seek acceptance from liberals, be they in the Democrat [sic] Party or be they in the drive-by media. They're out to savage us, they're out to destroy us. They're not out to get along with us, as we seem to be trying to do with them. And it was just evidence. So I suggested to Senator McCain, maybe the lesson to learn here is who your real friends are.
Likewise with this Hussein name business. If I've read it once today, I've read it twice that I constantly refer to Obama using his middle name. Which I don't. And in fact, the last two days, I've made a point of saying we don't make a big deal out of it here because frankly, there are other ways of going about dealing with Obama that are gonna require far more finesse than just throwing out his middle name, or whatever you want to try to imply by using his middle name. And one of the things I addressed in great detail yesterday was, we're dealing here with people who are attached to a candidate, in this case Obama, on the basis of faith. Not knowledge, not policy, not ideas -- faith. You know how tough it is to get people to give up their faith. He's leading a movement here, he's not running a political campaign. And so attacking his candidacy in the traditional ways of going about an opposing campaign -- at some point you'll have to do that, but in addition to that, you're gonna have to find a way to separate some of these faithful followers from him. And the more you criticize Obama, the stronger the attachment the faithful are gonna have to him. It's human nature. I made it plain.
Now, the drive-bys are insinuating that I think calling Obama by his middle name to highlight something Muslim is legitimate. Wrong again. I have never said -- all I said was, "We're going to let these guys tell us what we can't say?" We can't -- you know, Obama doesn't like his middle name being used, so we can't use it? What are we going to call him? Barack Fitzgerald Obama? Barack Earl Obama? What, are we going to give him some other middle name? Are we supposed to -- we --
You know, I can call the drive-bys every day and say, "You know, I really wish you wouldn't say this about me." Isn't gonna matter. But somehow, when Obama doesn't want his middle name used or if he doesn't want to be called a liberal, then our guys -- "OK, OK, fine, fine, whatever you want." So defensive and so afraid. That's what I pointed out. I've never said he's a Muslim. Other kooks out there doing that. I'm not wasting my time with that. Only an idiot would insinuate I'm out there trying to make a connection between Obama and some radical Islamic fact -- faction.
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LIMBAUGH: Last night on CNN's Election Center, the drive-bys -- I discussed this in the last hour -- the drive-bys using Obama's middle name, Hussein -- using this flap to mischaracterize me and insulate Obama from me. Campbell Brown and The Nation's Katrina vanden Heuvel -- Hurricane Katrina vanden Heuvel -- what? What did you -- you don't like Campbell Brown? Dawn does not -- let it be known: Dawn does not like Campbell Brown. Do you know she married some big-time Republican? No, no -- she ma-- yeah, that's right. She married Dan Senor -- or Senor. Was -- what's his name -- [Paul] Bremer's spokesman over there in Iraq when Bremer was running the show shortly after we ousted Saddam. Can't say his last name. Saddam al-Tikriti. But we can't use Saddam's last name. We can't use Obama's middle name.
Anyway, here's the exchange.
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BROWN: Listen to Rush Limbaugh.
LIMBAUGH [audio clip]: Senator McCain should start pretending that liberal Democrats are conservative Republicans, and then he can cuss them out and throw them under his bus. [audio break] If McCain was unhappy with what Cunningham said, there's a better way of dealing with this than to throw him under the bus this way. There's a better way of dealing with it.
BROWN: Does McCain still have a conservative problem?
VANDEN HEUVEL: What's delicious is to see Rush Limbaugh and these right-wing talk-radio hosts in a tizzy. The key thing here is we're going to see a lot of surrogate smears in this campaign, and this prefigures one of the ugliest elections we may see.
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LIMBAUGH: Really, on what basis involving anything involving me here is this a smear or is this ugly? All I said was to Senator McCain, "You know, it'd be nice if you'd start treating liberal Democrats the way you treat some conservative Republicans. Treat them as the enemy, throw them under your bus."















First of all, Limbaugh is demolishing a straw man when he says 'you can't use it'
But yes, Limpaugh is right, we all have the right to make an a** of ourselves. He, of all people, should know that's not illegal.
Kyle Broflovsky hath it--
And if it happens that conservative talkback radio hosts get a little too far in the poor taste department, broadcasters will want to consider this handy and innovative solution.
I wish all you cowards who pretend that no-one gets the "wink wink" of using Obama's middle name would just stand up and say- we think his name is too MUSLIM and WE HATE ALL MUSLIMS.
No-one, and I mean no-one, is fooled by your games.
The only one who has had the "guts" to do that is Savage, who literally just calls him "Osama" now. And of course savage is insane. Great company you all keep.
I don't think Barak has time for all that.
Here in Massachusetts we call Ultra liberals: Moonbats.
I like the sound of that better ;-)
"Cunningham has the right to use Obama's middle name without getting condemned so harshly for it and being told he can't use it."
Why, exactly, does Cunnighame use his middle name? Be honest, if you can.
How is his middle name "funny"? Do tell.
And so is Cunningham lying when he says that he meant it "out of respect"?
Obama's ultra liberal record should be a good enough reason for most people to vote against him.
What is his ultra liberal record?
What is his ultra liberal record?
Uhhh...Barbara Sreisand's Greatest Hits? ;>)
Um, voting for higher taxes, more rights for terrorists, more laws designed to take away guns, open borders, more abortion, sex education for 5 year olds, etc.
I would take that over republican positions like:
Giving tax breaks to people who don't need it while the working poor and the Middle Class continue to be decimated.
More rights for Corporations while taking away the rights of American citizens.
Endless war to get as many American soldiers killed as possible (hat tip to Solon).
Putting guns in the hands of anyone, even criminals.
Open global borders (Free Trade) which allow corporations to kick American workers out on the street to ensure that those jobs go to the the lowest bidder.
Relegating women and other minorities to second class citizens once again.
Denying children the ability to know what inappropriate touching is which will lead to predators sexually abusing them and getting away with it.
By saying that Rush Limbaugh doesn't use Obama's middle name, you meant to say that he has used it in the past but that he doesn't use it anymore, right?
“The media, the drive-bys, are in the midst of Obama-gasms. Because Obama -- that would be Barack Hussein Obama -- has announced the perfunctory and predictable exploratory committee to go out there and ask people what they think he ought to do.”
- Rush (Jeff Christie) Limbaugh January 16, 2007
"For one thing -- I mean, you know me -- if the guy is sensitive about his big ears, we need to give him a new name, like Dumbo, but that doesn't quite get it. You know, just calling him -- calling him -- that just doesn't -- how about Barack Hussein Odumbo?"
- Rush (Jeff Christie) Limbaugh December 14, 2006
OK. But You made the statement that he doesn't use it three times before I corrected you.
He was simply saying that others have the right to do it.
That is simply incorrect. Rush never said anything about rights. He claims they should be able to use it without being criticized for it. Quite different.
RH,
Point out votes that make Obama an ultra-liberal. Of course anyone can use Obama's middle name. Anyone can promote fear of something that isn't true. What Cunningham and his ilk are trying to do is promote fear of a bogeyman and ignorance. Of course he has the right to remain ignorance and his sheep can follow him wherever that leads, but, as someone who says that he is a Republican, do you really want to be the party promoting this type of ignorant rhetoric or do you want a campaign on the issues?
Your "liberal" friends who think Obama is Muslim are ignorant too. There is no excuse for such thoughts with such a vast array of information available these days.
He is not ultra liberal! Bernie Sanders is ultra liberal, Russ Feingold and Dennis Kucinich are ultra liberal. Obama is not.
The examples you gave:
1) Higher taxes-Wow, nothing like the conservative mindset of spend and let the later administrations pay it back (i.e. Reagan, Bush I and Bush II)
2) Rights for terrorists?!?! They aren't terrorists if they have not been convicted of anything!
3) Sex Ed-Did you actually read the proposal?
4) He is not for open borders. Show me one quote on that says Obama wants no enforcement of the borders. Otherwise, let it go.
5) More abortions? He is not for "more abortions" he is for the ability to have one in a safe environment. No one "wants" abortions. The people who are pro-choice want it as an option.
6) Show me one quote where he said he wanted to "take away guns." He may be in favor of stricter background checks but that doesn't "take away guns" from anyone.
As for your claim that McCain is a centrist, how do you explain that? Every moderate position he took, he reveresed. From Bush's tax cuts, to campaign finance reform, to his own immigration bill to ethanol, to his stance on abortion, to the Religious Right, to speaking at Bob Jones, to meeting with Grover Norquist, to gay marriage to the Confederate flag. Do you want me to go on? Since 2000, McCain has made a sharp right turn.
Are you thinking of voting for him now?
Name one issue McCain is currently a liberal on. I took the a test from Minnesota Public Radio:
http://minnesota.publicradio.org/projects/ongoing/select_a_candidate/poll.php?race_id=13
and I had more in common with Huckabee than McCain!
"He's still liberal on campaign finance reform, closing Gitmo and giving foreign terrorists U.S. Constitutional rights, having mandatory caps on greenhouse gases, supporting amnesty for illegals, voting for gun control laws, etc."
1) Campaign finance reform how is he "liberal" on campaign finance reform? You call him ultra liberal. By that definition, he should be far more liberal than McCain-Feingold. Show me evidence.
2) Foreign terrorists and Constitutional rights. What rights do you think they should have? If we suspect someone of being a terrorist, how should they be treated? Should they be guilty until proven innocent? What votes has he made that lead you to think this? Are you a terrorist if you are only a suspect?
3) Greenhouse gases? Are you for unlimited pollution? The Republicans lowered all standards for pollution. By your definitions, you are for dirty water and air, am I right?
4) Do you want to deport 12 million people? What are you doing to further this effort? Look again at what Obama says and then get back to me.
5) Gun control is different than taking guns away. Do you not support any type of background checks?
Why did you start with your untrue rhetoric. Your statements, at least on this thread, are a series of contradictions.
By your rhetoric, I could say this: You are for unlimited war, killing anyone who "looks" like Bin Ladin, corporations buying candidates to do their bidding, dirty water, and accusing all people who have darker skin than you of being an illegal alien. Do I think you really feel that way, no!
But RH, if you want to have any kind of debate, put forth Obama's honest positions.
so ultra liberal is the new moderate conservative?
People need to get their facts straight...no one running for President now is "Liberal" to any degree. Get off your high horses and start paying attention to what you're saying.
Go through the things I wrote about and defend them. Find the quotes where he wants: 1) More abortions 2) Open borders 3) to take guns away.
If you can't rephrase or retract your statements.
Here is a compilation of RH's quotes on Rush using Barack's full name:
1) "Limbaugh himself doesn't use Obama's middle name and isn't saying that it is a good idea to do so."
2) "I was simply pointing out that Rush doesn't (use Obama's middle name) either."
3) "He (Rush) doesn't use it on a regular basis. There may have been one or two isolated times. I've never heard him use it when I've been listening."
4) "Rush doesn't use Obama's middle name, as he made it clear here."
5) "Cunningham is the only talk show host you mentioned who uses Obama's middle name on a regular basis. Rush and Hannity mostly just focus on the issues."
6) "He (Rush) doesn't use his middle name on a consistent regular basis the way that Cunningham does."
7) "Rush never said that he agreed that Obama's middle name should be used that way." (except when he does it, RH?)
How many inconsistencies can one poster have without admitting he was wrong at one point?
Who knows, Col. I got him to see things my way once. I guess I just have a tiny glimmer of faith in the lad.
Limbaugh basically just said that Cunningham has the right to use Obama's middle name without getting condemned so harshly for it and being told he can't use it. Limbaugh himself doesn't use Obama's middle name and isn't saying that it is a good idea to do so.
Rino, we're not living on planet Mars. Everyone understands that when Cunningham and Limbo use Obama's middle name it's for the 20 to 30% racist ignorant GOP voters who will assume that Obama is Muslim, somehow related to Saddam and a terrorist. The only dumb ones are those who continue to try to pretend that Cunningham and Limbo are innocent and simply using Obama name because that was his given name. Please stop the bull sh*t, no one's buying it OK.
You betcha. That's all Limpball is saying. What a choir boy!
Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.
Um, you're the one who's not being honest here. Rush doesn't use Obama's middle name, as he made it clear here. He's simply saying that Cunningham should have the right to use it. And actually it's not just "racist conservative Republicans" who think that Obama is a Muslim. I actually know several liberal Democrats who think that Obama is a Muslim. You'd be surprised that this false belief runs across the entire political spectrum and not just the right.
Rino, Rush, Cunningham and Hannity use Obama's middle name hoping that the ignorant and uninformed will assume that Obama is Muslim or related to Saddam or a terrorist. Do you hear McCain's middle name being used? Did you hear Mitt or Huckabee or Ron Paul's middle name being used? What about John Edwards? Hell No! It serves no purpose to use their middle name. Get real, this is has EVERYTHING to do what how and why his middle name is used NOT their right to use it!. Cunningham uses his middle name and adds the prophet in the same sentence as if they're related and Obama is Muslim. Cunningham adds Farrakhan and Obama's full name in the same sentence as if they're related, knowing full well they are NOT. And you think Rush is simply saying it's OK to use his middle name? That is bull.
The reason that some are uninformed about Obama is because of people like Cunningham, Limbo, Hannity and others who play on the ignorance of others by repeating lie after lie.
What the righties pretend not to get is that the use of someone's name in a way to intentionally create a false impression about that person or to dingrate the person is much different than benignly stating the person's name. What they actually don't get is that it says a lot more about them than it says about Obama.
Irony, I agree with you 100%. I wish these talkers would stop with the rhetoric and be a little more serious. They come off as childish and, frankly, immature when they play these stupid word games. IMO, they do nothing to help conservatives or Republicans.
If you don't like Obama, criticize him on the issues. They (talkers) don't have a problem criticizing McCain on the issues, they should do the same with Obama instead of drooling into the microphone.
Pearlene,
I'd say your post pretty much sums it up. There is no argument to the contrary, well a rational one anyway. Great post.
Is it just me or haven't the Cons realized that by using a, First name(MITT), middle name (Hussein) or even last name (McCain) can be used against a candidate because of the perception of that name. Willard sounds like a rat's name...Hussein infers Saddam and now we get to McCain.
McCAIN...correct me if I am wrong but doesn't the mean SON of CAIN. And who was CAIN, a murderer of his brother. Is our Sen McCains' family named after this felon? Maybe that is his reason for a Hundred Year War?
And for those Bible students please do not say that we all come from that family tree because then we would all have to be considered TERROISTS because our roots are all Semetic which I believe may be correct.
So if the Dems start spouting off that the name Cain has felonious roots, don't whine about it, call it Biblical in nature.
Next you say this is designed to point out the fact he's black and stir up racists, News Flash, most rednecks aren't blind!!! They already knew he's black and as far as the blind goes, Barrack Obama doesn’t scream WASP.
We have many things to worry about in this election, this isn’t one of them.I think Mr. Obama is a tremendous candidate and have no reason to question his motives, but for me he's just wrong on the direction he wants to take us in. One more News Flash, refusing to extend the tax cuts IS A TAX INCREASE FOR MOST AMERICANS NOT JUST THE EVIL RICH!!! We are over taxed and it is the reason our economy is struggling now.
Now go ahead and attack me for my position, but Tax Freedom Day is in early June (for the ignorant among us this is the day when all of your earnings for the year equal the taxes that you pay). I will not support any candidate who doesn’t stop the spending spree in Washington and reduce the amount of time I have to work to support someone else’s family or build a bridge to nowhere.Alternating between normal and small print is an interesting technique...are you saying that the small print is not as important, or that it contains clause you don't want anyone reading before they sign up?
Rush and Hannity mostly just focus on the issues. Rino
"Well, we've got another tape from -- I get these guys confused -- Usama bin Laden. Another tape says he's going to invade Pakistan and declare war on Pakistan and Musharraf, which, ladies and gentlemen, puts him on the same page with a Democrat presidential candidate -- that would be Barack 'Uss-Obama.' " Limbaugh then aired an audio clip of a recent statement by Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL):
Oh yeah he doesn't use his middle he just associates him with the 9/11 mastermind. That's perfectly acceptable, right Rino.
RINO,
You said, in part "He's simply saying that Cunningham should have the right to use it"
Your right when you say this...... but I think the question here is.... why use it at all when not using it on the others?
Fine.... if he (Cunningham) wants to say Barack Hussein Obama over and over, more power to him.... but if he wants to be seen as either fair or a racist prick then he needs to either stop doing it at all or begin to use the other candidates middle names too!
I also think that for him to be fair about it he would need to use his disingenious inflection upon their middle name also as he so wonderfully does with Barack's.......
Wouldn't that at least be the littlest that Cunningham and any other right-wing stars can do?
Looks to me liked he used it in this quote....
"So why can't it be used?" He said: "[W]hat if the Democrats start talking about John Sidney McCain? Is somebody going to say, 'We're not going to tolerate that. ... [T]hat's the kind of disparaging reference to my opponent we're not going to put up with'? His middle name is Hussein. 'C'mon, Rush. You know they're trying to use it in a disparaging way.' How? Because Saddam Hussein? Because it's a -- it's an Arabic name? What? It's his name.""
"He's simply saying that Cunningham should have the right to use it."
Limbaugh is also not proving that anyone is infringing on Cunningham's "right."
Criticism and censorship are not one in the same.
"This headline is very misleading if not outright false. Limbaugh basically just said that Cunningham has the right to use Obama's middle name without getting condemned so harshly for it and being told he can't use it. Limbaugh himself doesn't use Obama's middle name and isn't saying that it is a good idea to do so."
The headline says that Limbaugh defended Cunningham's usage. It didn't say he emulated it, so whether he does it himself or thinks it's a good idea is beside the point.
How is saying that Cunningham has the right to do this not defending him, exactly?
If he says that what someone does shouldn't be condemned, that's defending the behavior. That's saying there's nothing wrong with it. I don't see any way around that.
If I said liberal posters who mocked conservatives' names had the right to do that, that they shouldn't be condemned for doing that, that would be defending them and what they do. It doesn't matter if I think it's a good idea or if I do it myself.
At best this is semantics. It's certainly not as clear-cut as "misleading" or outright false.
It's one thing to read, it's another to comprehend.
Rino Hunter can't comprehend, because that would involve a thought process. As a member of the GOP borg, he simply lets the right-wing groupthink do his thinking for him.....
But we know Cunningham's intentions when he uses the name Hussein. It's purely for the purpose of painting Obama as a radical muslim.
But do you honestly believe Limbaugh would refrain from the muslim angle had Karl Rove not said that attacking Obama in such a manner is bad policy?
has anyone asked people like cunningham why they need to use his middle name and repeat it over and over? i could look it up, but i don't know al gore's middle name, and he's been around a long time.
For the record (according to Wikipedia), Al Gore's full name is Albert Arnold Gore, Jr.
You know this would have went know where except for the complet IDIOT that was shouting Obama middle name. I have no problem Obama's middle name,but when you get a complet BSing A_ _ HOLE like Cunningham there is a problem. Again Cunningham is one of the biggest A_ _ Holes on conservitive talk shows.
Now as far as Rush goes he is the TOP DOG. By what I mean here is the biggest of all conservitive talk show A_ _ HOLES.
Obama should occasionally make a joke about this by introducing himself at rallies by saying something along the lines of:
I am Barack Hussein Obama, the man the Republicans say is either an Islamic terrorist or the anti-Christ. <pause> Boy, the Republicans sure have a lot of time on their hands...and they're gonna have a lot more after November.
What.....and bully the right-wing bully's.......are you mad?
I mean...... it's so crazy.... it could actually work.....
Of course...... you'd just get them even madder..... remember how uncorked they became when Clinton kept fighting them 10 years ago....
I swear.... I thought Limbaughs head was going to explode!
They are accustomed to doing battle with the straw men they create. They hate real opponents who can sling it right back.
Did you ever see when Sean Hannity had Cristopher Hitchens on the HANNITY & colmes Show? I don't care for aome of Hitchen's politics but I respect his intellect. He is an arrogantly overbearing personality who doesn't tolerate fools lightly...particularly a fool like Hannity. By the end of the segment Hannity was reduced to muttering something to the effect of "you think you're so smart, don't you?" It was funny. But the point is that if you quickly hit them back with intelligence and wit they look like pathetic, sophomoric fools.
By the end of the segment Hannity was reduced to muttering something to the effect of "you think you're so smart, don't you?"
It doesn't take much for anyone to prove themselves smarter than Sean Hannity.
Yeah except that Hannity is a multi millionare who has millions of listeners every week and has sold millions of books. Now who's the dumb one?
Monetary success makes you smart or dumb?!?! Is McDonald's the best restaurant on the planet in your mind? Taco Bell serves the best Mexican food, right RH?
Hannity makes his money telling his liberal-fearing, non-fact checking audience what they want to hear. His audience is so lazy and gullible they won't even use the internets ;).
Hey! I need to put a new fuse in my Jingometer!
The point has been made, I haven't heard anybody say that nobody's allowed to say "Hussein", just another right-wing strawman.Always crying about their free speech rights being trampled by others engaging in free speech.
Every American has the right to all sorts of free speech- nice speech, mean speech,smart speech and stoopid speech.Yes, Rush and Cunninham, you have a right, bestowed by your Creator, whether that Creator be Jesus' dad, Allah, the Flying Spaghetti Monster , or millions of years of chemicals and electricity and water bouncing off of each other, to unrestrained stoopidity.
You do not have a right to uncontested stoopidity.
I’m sure my response is just because I’m up earlier than him today - But if you looked at Irony’s post just like any other on-liner, (perhaps an “I agree!” or “Nice Post!)” would it upset you? Look at it that way, and it would fly by your eyes like a subliminal ad showing a nude image in an ice cube. This one just happens to be Irony’s favorite sarcastic one-liner. I can live with it. Or does it just upset you because you lost a sale, as Irony obviously doesn't NEED a Jingometer? :)
Now, some poster's one-on-one circular arguments that go back and forth for 3 pages – THERE, I have a problem.
"I think that Rush makes some good points. there is hypocrisy on the left because the left does not believe in truth" (Chris#####)
Well, when you start your comment off with sensible remarks like that, it's really hard to not be persuaded over to your view.
Rush gives a lot of money to the troops out of guilt for the insults he's thrown at them.It's his defense fund, much of it suckered out of his gullible dittoheads.How much did you send him, Chris?
"Rush also has given more money to disabled troops than any other American alive today."
I'm sure it's true, because Rush says it's true. (/sarc)
LIMBAUGH: We never see Republicans on TV attacking liberals the way we are constantly attacked.
I guess El Rushbo doesn't watch Faux News......
BTW, since Rush Limbaugh sees no problem in using Barack Obama's middle name, from now on I will refer to Rush as Rush "Jeff Christie" Limbaugh, to remind everyone of the name he was using when he was arrested in the company of a male prostitute in Pittsburgh in the Early '70s.
LIMBAUGH: We never see Republicans on TV attacking liberals the way we are constantly attacked.
That's funny coming from a man who uses ad hominem more than anyone else in ALL of media. Dingy Harry and Puff Daddy Dashel for example.
That's funny coming from a man who uses ad hominem more than anyone else in ALL of media. Dingy Harry and Puff Daddy Dashel for example.
A lot of right-wing wackos do that. For example, Sean Hannity constantly refers to Sen. Robert Byrd as "Robert KKK Byrd", even though Byrd hasn't been a member of the KKK since the 1940s and has repeatedly said that he regrets joining in the first place. (In many parts of the country back then, KKK membership was pretty much a requirement for anyone seeking public office.) And Mark Levin refers to Hillary Clinton as either "Hillary Rotten Clinton" or "Her Thighness", and Mike Huckabee as "Mike Huckaphony".
It's what passes for being clever in that small circle of morons. They've never matured past the name-calling phase most of us outgrew before we got to junior high school.
Don't forget.
Levin also refers to Governor Arnold as "The Jerkinator" and Obama as "Osama Hussein Obama" and so on. What's with the stupid names anyway?
What a crybaby! Isn't "Attack" HIS middle name?
Wouldn't be a hoot if Rush's middle name were something line "Percival"? Actually, his fill name is Rush Hudson Limbaugh III.
Not funny then, and not funny now. Very immature now, and simply ridiculous that since it is his middle name that saying it with emphasis to scare the 19%-ers.
Is this so hard to figure out? Have the Cons matured at all since MS?
I agree. I don't do the "O'Liely" and all that mess. I don't mind if someone else uses crazy names, but I think it diminishes the argument.
However, I have and will continue to use Bill "I have a face for radio" Cunningham, because I made it up and I think it's funny. Also, he has a face for radio. ;)
Notice I'm not skewing his name though.
What is wrong with calling someone by his name. I thought you libs believe in the 1st Amendment. You only support free speech if you agree with it. I will happily refer to my heros as Ronald Wilson Reagan, George Walker Bush, Rush Hudson Limbaugh, Ann Hart Coulter, Willard Mitt Romney, etc.
Willard Mitt Romney did not take offense in the usage of his middle name. Is Barack Hussein Obama ashamed of who he is?
The fact that he is so sensitive about this leads me to believe he has something to hide. His "minister" Jeremiah Wright loves Farrakhan - is Wright a Muslim? There is a Pulitzer Prize available to anyone with enough guts to investigate his alma mater madrassah in Jakarta? Was it funded by Wahabists? Did any of Barack Hussein Obama's fellow alums eventually join Jummat al-Islamiyah? Did any of his classmates join al-Qaeda later in life.
Because of reflexive white guilt on the part of liberals (especially in the media) Barack Hussein Obama gets a pass on everything. Let's vet his background before we give him the nucleur access codes.
Romney wasn't ashamed of his middle name. He was ashamed of his first name.
If I were you I'd go shopping for some new heroes. Your list is full of draft dodgers, bad actors and scam artists.
Please, if the intent is innocent, if the innuendo are inadvert, how do you explain this? Am I to believe she's coming to this conclusion via her own paranoid or fantastic leaps of logic, or is she getting some help from her (admittedly poor) choice of news sources?
I'd really like to know. Cheers.
What are we going to call him? Barack Fitzgerald Obama? Barack Earl Obama? What, are we going to give him some other middle name?"
Sure, you can use his full name - right after you start using John Sidney McCain III, Rush Hudson Limbaugh III and Michael Alan Weiner.