Coulter back on MSNBC -- "think[s] it's funny" to refer to Obama's middle name
SUMMARY: In an appearance on MSNBC, right-wing pundit Ann Coulter again referred to Sen. Barack Obama as "B. Hussein Obama." When asked by host Amy Robach, "Why don't you like to say "Barack Obama"? Coulter replied, "Because I think it's funny. I mean, it wouldn't be -- this hysteria from the Democrats about how you can't call him by his middle name. ... Of course there's a reason we call him that."
In yet another appearance on an NBC-affiliated network, right-wing pundit Ann Coulter appeared on the March 6 broadcast of MSNBC Live to discuss presidential primaries and again referred to Sen. Barack Obama as "B. Hussein Obama." Coulter said: "I mean, terrorism does throw things off this year, but if you assume, as I tend to, that this is going to be a Democrat year, the choice is between B. Hussein Obama and Hillary Clinton. And I do think Hillary Clinton would be tougher with the terrorists. I think she'd probably be worse on domestic policy, but right now, the war on terrorism has me more concerned." Host Amy Robach responded, "And you say, 'B. Hussein Obama.' ... Why don't you like to say 'Barack Obama' "? Coulter replied: "Because I think it's funny. I mean, it wouldn't be -- this hysteria from the Democrats about how you can't call him by his middle name. Well, we're calling him by his middle name precisely because it makes Democrats hysterical. Of course there's a reason we call him that."
As Media Matters for America noted, less than 24 hours after she repeatedly referred to Obama as "B. Hussein Obama" and "President Hussein" on the February 13 edition of Fox News' Your World, Coulter appeared on the February 14 edition of MSNBC Live. During the program, MSNBC highlighted remarks Coulter made in a February 8 speech to the Young America's Foundation with on-screen text that read, "COULTER: OBAMA WOULDN'T BE RUNNING IF HE WERE NOT HALF BLACK." Coulter referred to Obama as "B. Hussein Obama" during the speech and asserted, "His strongest selling point is that he is one of the least dangerous people I know named Hussein." As the blog Think Progress noted, Coulter went on to say: "Other than that, Barack's really been kind of coasting on his record, since his first big accomplishment of being born half-black. I keep hearing people say, 'Oh, Obama could never be elected because he's half-black. You know, 'cause we're just such a racist country.' What are they talking about? He wouldn't be running for president if he weren't half-black. He'd be [Sen.] Dick Durbin [D-IL] with less experience."
From the 3 p.m. ET hour of the March 6 edition of MSNBC Live:
COULTER: I don't think -- I must say, I tend not to think that the Democrats are gonna need my help. I mean, it looks to me as if it's going to be Bob Dole redux. I mean, terrorism does throw things off this year, but if you assume, as I tend to, that this is going to be a Democrat year, the choice is between B. Hussein Obama and Hillary Clinton. And I do think Hillary Clinton would be tougher with the terrorists. I think she'd probably be worse on domestic policy, but right now, the war on terrorism has me more concerned.
ROBACH: And you say, "B. Hussein Obama."
COULTER: Yes.
ROBACH: Why don't you like to say "Barack Obama"?
COULTER: Because I think it's funny. I mean, it wouldn't be -- this hysteria from the Democrats about how you can't call him by his middle name. Well, we're calling him by his middle name precisely because it makes Democrats hysterical. Of course there's a reason we call him that.
ROBACH: All right. And it's interesting you bring up obviously the war on terror, because I was just actually reviewing your YouTube moment with Sean Hannity.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200706260004
No. Children are innocent. Coulter is a bigot.
There's also nothing attractive, admirable, amusing, provocative, enlightening, informative, entertaining, or sexy about Ann The Man....
Actually it is no big problem. I know several people who give$10,000 dollars every time someone mentions his middle name. It is really quite a money raiser. Anyone that stupid has no influence on thinking people. They know she is just ill mannered and a bigot of the first order. Let her prattle on and let the big bucks clink in to the campaign coffers. Nothing like having a blabbing Republican turning out to be one of the greatest money raisers for Barack. This guy is having a giggle as he sends off the loot. Let the dullard prattle on and on I say.
Actually it is no big problem. I know several people who give$10,000 dollars every time someone mentions his middle name. It is really quite a money raiser. Anyone that stupid has no influence on thinking people. They know she is just ill mannered and a bigot of the first order. Let her prattle on and let the big bucks clink in to the campaign coffers. Nothing like having a blabbing Republican turning out to be one of the greatest money raisers for Barack. This guy is having a giggle as he sends off the loot. Let the dullard prattle on and on I say.
well it is kinda dumb to get all huffy over a middle name.
The Republicans were doing something similar in 2000. They objected to GWB being called George Jr. and Albert Gore, Jr. not. I never did the PSYOPS bag while I was in but I know there has been a lot of research in how people's perception can be influenced by a name.
There is a reason it was "Slick Willie" and not "Slick Bill".
It's also kind of dumb to use a middle name with the obvious intent of starting a convocation of religious and ethnic bigotry.
"Kind of dumb" is rather fitting when discussing Ann The Man.....
She reminds me of the most obnoxious reality show contestants who learn quickly that crude behavior results in more camera time.
Coulter is a media whore.
I don't think she is telling the truth. She says it to remind a certain segment of voters that the Senator is not like them. It's not to poke the dems, that's just an added bonus.
Eschew obfuscation
Pete,
He would be welcomed under one condition: that he was on the frontlines of the "War on Terror" in the House and Senate and pledging to go after the enemy harder than ever.
They have embraced J.C. Watts and Jesse Lee Peterson who have taken a much more conservative approach to civil rights. If Obama was a Republican, he would have to fill that role.
Tommy, I think if Obama were a Republican, Coulter would brag about being the "big tent" party.
If Obama was a Republican, he would have to fill that role.
That, of course, being the role of Steppin Fetchit. Republicans only like blacks who are the "right kind" of blacks.
Tommy, I think if Obama were a Republican, Coulter would brag about being the "big tent" party.
No, no - they get that name from the fact that "big tent" is what happens when you watch all those hot babes on Fox News.
Do you think she would do it if Obama were a Republican?
Excellent question Tommy, & I think the [honest] answer would be: NO
I think it's quite obvious Anne does this exactly for the reason she states. She thinks it's funny to tick off Democrats.
Right, when someone agrees with Tommy's opponent, then they "need them to validate their opinion". When someone agrees with Tommy, then they're valid support because they're honest.
Typical.
We disagree. Her interest is not some lofty goodness for America, in her eyes.....it's to be relevant, shocking, sell books and make money.
But you see her more seriously, it's your right.
But you see her more seriously, it's your right.
My post above is in response to this.
PS: why waste time telling me it's my right? Very clearly goes w/o saying.
Oh for pete's sake, you said she is advancing her cause, her mission, I would imagine in her mind that would be "goodness for America", as opposed to just being funny, which you do not think is her motivation.
The fact that you take her seriously is exactly what fuels her even more.
Why do you think Olbermann always refers to Limbaugh as a comedian? Because he gets these types.
Oh dear god Governor, what is your point? Go back to post #1, and/or read what she said. She said exactly why she says it, it's even in the headline. This is just ridiculous.
You are more than free to disagree with her.
Gov, At the risk of a long post here, let me reiterate what I said in post #1. If she was like many of her compadres who also use Obama's middle name, when asked "Why?", she would probably answer "Oh, I don't mean anything by it, or it's his middle name, isn't it?"........then I would say she is lying, or she's kidding, being disingenuous.
However, when asked she says it makes Democrats hysterical and that is why she does it. I said she isn't lying here, she is telling you, and I, exactly why she uses his middle name. I believe her.
Is she a bigot toward Muslims? I don't know if she is or not, I have no clue what Ann is or isn't because 99% of her scthick is an act, as far as I am concerned. So to dissect her character beyond that is really useless, and irrelevant for me. I am indifferent to her brand of shockery, I am someone she hasn't gotten to yet. I am not a fan, so I don't buy her books, and I don't get hysterical when she opens her yap......she really would not like me at all, because people like me are a threat to her relevancy.
That is what I believe, you can agree or disagree.
However, when asked she says it makes Democrats hysterical and that is why she does it. I said she isn't lying here, she is telling you, and I, exactly why she uses his middle name. I believe her.
That reason for using his middle name explains why she thinks she keeps using it, but it's not why she began usins it.
"Perhaps" the "joke" is "evolving"
http://mediamatters.org/items/200706260004
Oh, thanks Tommy. I should read more slowly in order to understand what you "imagine". I feel so stoopid now. ;0)
My point is the she uses Obama middle name because she wants him to lose - that she says things to advance a mission - not to "be funny."
Gov, I gotta disagree with ya here. While Coulter might personally prefer a Republican, preferably a Conservative one, in the White House, it really doesn't matter to her on a professional level. In fact the more Democrats to mock the better. This would please her just fine & give her a hell of a lot more funny stuff to write about.
Her aim & primary motive is to get a laugh while getting under Dem/Libs skin.
Tommy,
Somewhere deep down I think they get it. Actually maybe I'm giving them too much credit ;-)
Somewhere deep down I think they get it.
The most arrogant thing I've ever read on this website.
How about this?
Somewhere deep down I think they get it, as far as I know.
LOL!!! Perfect Jeter,
Best. Post. Of. The. Day.
We get that Ann is a commode-ian. ;-0)
Just thought I'd throw some childish humor in there since that's the level of comic sophistication of your goddess, Ann.
"we get this."
You agree, you don't get.
- that she says things to advance a mission -
Ann The Man's sole mission is to make money for Ann The Man.
That's really a moot point, don't you think? I mean, come on: Would the racist sexist elitist bastards who control the GOP ever let a black man (or even a half-black man) run for GOP presidential candidate. Hell, they barely let Ron Paul run... and he's white! What do you think would have happened if a Barak clone had tried to get on a GOP ballot? I'm thinking head explosions.
It's funny, though: It's as if Ann doesn't seem to care if anyone knows she's a evil blood-sucking bitch anymore. I fully expect (as she aparantly does) that when (not if) Barak wins and Bush is gone, she'll fade into the background and go hide in her Ann-cave for 4-8 years, ready to emerge and feast on the souls of voters and news anchors alike once again.
That's my opinion and if you don't like it, come to Canada and I'll show you what real democracy looks like.
"Lets see and we have been told over and over again that she only says these things on FOX."
By who?
By MSNBC management.
I am not sure if Sueeld has a better link but here is one example of MSNBC and its attacks on FOX, yet they ignore their own house of hate? Tucker says its ok to bash gays. That seems fine though at MSNBC.
http://politvideo.com/Political-Videos/TV-Shows/Joe-Scarborough-attacks-Fox-News.html
Sueeld
I could not agree with you more, how many of MSNBC shows dedicate time to how horrible and right wing FOX is yet MSNBC smears women and puts on the vile Ann Coulter.
Abrams, Scarborugh and Olbermann top the list of phonies who tell us how bad FOX is yet do not look at MSNBC.
I've said this before, but MSNBC is a business, and you don't bad-mouth your business, especially if you're a spokesperson for that business. It's nonsense to think that they would ever go after MSNBC for some kind of journalistic integrity.
Now if we got rid of the corporations owning news media, we might have a chance of seeing some self-criticism.
Now if we got rid of the corporations owning news media, we might have a chance of seeing some self-criticism
I agree with you, but do not act like you are on a pedastal if you are as bad as the other.
"Abrams, Scarborugh and Olbermann top the list of phonies who tell us how bad FOX is yet do not look at MSNBC."
This is not what Sue claimed. She claimed that MSNBC management (not hosts) has told us over and over again that Ann only says things like this on Fox.
Former Management (Abrams).
Happy? or are you in the business of apologizing for MSNBCs slant?
And Abrams said this over and over again. Alrighty then.
By the way, if there's any "business" aspect to this, it's finding out whether or not what you say is true so I can judge it for myself. So far, you've quoted and linked nothing.
Yeah, and it's called 'disrespect' combined with 'passive-aggressiveness' in my book.
Disrespect? That is just silly. It is hardly disrespect to use his name.
She says it because the people that buy her books love it.
She says it because the people that buy her books love it.---
Gee, thanks. What a revelation.
It never, ever occurred to me that Coulter says "Hussein" over and over again because she's pandering to her right-wing, cowering-under-the-bed, hate-mongering, Obama-is-really-a-Muslim & Terrorist readers.
And I never realized til now how much respect that demonstrates.
Boy, am I ever silly.
She is being disrespectful.
There was a man who used to lead Jordan called King Hussein. Hussein is not an offensive name. Saddam Hussein was a bad leader, but had no collaborative relationship with Osama Bin Laden. The name is not bad. The Republican water carriers are trying to link those two things (Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden) in multiple ways in order to make Senator Barack Hussein Obama look bad, and that's offensive and disrespectful to the American public and to Senator Obama and his ancestors as well.
It's not the use of his name that's the problem. Rather it's the reasons behind that use which is the issue.
"I don't think it is "dumb" at all. I think it will work well. Right wing Republicans do not like McCain. Having them come out because they hate the other guy is a proven success tactic."
So it's an effective tactic because it will create hate for Obama, but it's not disrespectful. I see.
Oh, of course you can stir up all sorts of religious hatred of someone while demonstrating respect for them.
Can you actually explain how that's possible, instead of pretending not to recognize obvious sarcasm?
In an even more extreme example, you can respect your enemy in combat and still shoot him in the face. I myself hated and still respected individuals for their honesty and their skill. Using his name is not disrespectful. Someone said he looked like Curious George on Rush last week according to a poster on here, that is disrespectful. Saying his name is X or his votes have been Y is not disrespectful.
Hence, the call for respect is silly.
Asking a disrespectful person to show respect is not silly. But a disrespectful person who pretends as tho they ARE showing respect, when in fact they are not, DOES make THAT person look silly.
Using someone's name against them for obvious, hurtful reasons and then declaring you do respect them is disingenuous and an insult to one's intelligence. There is no other explanation.
"it makes Democrats hysterical."
It makes Democrats reveal themselves to be the party that stands against religious and ethnic bigotry when the media accommodates it.
That is one spin definitely.
Another is that it shows that he does have some reason to be ashamed of it. Otherwise why would his supporters protest so much?
I wonder which will get more legs?
Not that I don't see your point, but again, if he/she were just doing this to tick off Democrats, why don't you view Farrakhans ignorant comments as him just trying to tick off white people? You know why you don't? Because you're smart enough to know he is serious about a lot of his views as is Andrew. He/She has spoke about forcefully converting an entire country to Christianity, she's talked about bombing the New York Post and she's made many other horrendous comments that would not be tolerated if it were a black nationalist saying it. There would be not platform on MSNBC for Big Louie to spew his anti-semetic hate. Do you disagree?
I'm not foolish enough to fall for the notion that it's her only reason. She is a proven liar, a proven bigot, and a hate merchant with nothing interesting to say.
There is no basis to believe her when she tells us that her engagement in an activity that Karl Rove himself said, "sounds like a rallying cry for bigots," is entirely about eliciting a hysterical reaction from the members of a certain political party.
Pete rarely, if ever, engages in personal attacks - his cooler head always prevails, so his "bigger fool" jab was, well, a little hysterical, in my opinion.
If you disagree Col, please do so.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200706260004
Because she thinks "it's funny," that's why she does it. It was "funny" to link Saddam Hussein with 9/11 and now "it's funny" to link Obama with terrorists. Only trying to piss of a political party here, so don’t be alarmed.
Do you get big yuks hearing people call him "Hussein" over and over? If so, why? Do you think he'd want everyone laughing at his name?
I don't really care either way. I am not surprised by it but I am surprised by the lack of response. If he doesn't he will have a steep hill to climb after the nomination because the CW will be Hussein.
You have to hit hard and hit fast. You can't let this stuff sit there this long. Obama needs a war room.
I guess rightwingers are better equipped to know just how stupid/morally bereft and racist their base really is, so they have an advantage over us since we know our people aren't that wilfully witless.
Coulter's politics are. But that's really an insult to the children in the schoolyard.
Perhaps.
I just see this as him not learning the lessons of the last two campaigns. It doesn't matter if something is true if you let people grow to believe it. If it is damaging you must stop it quickly. If something is allowed to sit there then people will think it must be true.
Al Gore claimed he invented the internet.
John Kerry shot himself to get a PH so he could go home.
Were those true? Does it matter? People believe it because they didn't act quickly enough to stop the belief.
Responding to smears quickly does NOT stop the right-wing noise machine from repeating the smear. It does not stop wingnuts from believing the smear simply because they WANT to believe them. It doesn't stop right-wing talk show hosts from taking advantage of their audience's ignorance. It doesn't stop wingnuts from perpetuating lies because of the lies' effects. It does not stop lazy or uninformed reporters and editorial writers from repeating them, purposely or not.
Time has proven this out.
Blaming the victim is a typical right-wing response. It lets them off-the-hook, they think. It's the typical right-wing, bully mentality response.
Welcome. We're discussing right-wing smear merchant and professional liberal-hater ("Godless") and all-around hatemonger --with a proven track record-- Ann Coulter repeating it over and over again--clearly saying it for its intended, damaging effect. Albeit in her patented third-grade manner.
However, if you disingenuously ignore all that, you'd say what you just did.
Dave,
I am not disingenuous at all. I simply don't buy into it one bit. Just because Coulter is saying it does not make it so. Barak Hussein Obama is his name, that is all. His father was a Muslim from a country in Africa.
My ancestors came from Europe, some of them are from way back, and came to America to escape religious persecution. I love the fact that America is a melting pot. I live in a mixed race neighborhood and love the diversity. I see everyone as God's children.
Heck, I understand Coulter is just tweaking you guys. You should realize it too. Barak's middle name only has a negative connotation if you let it. I simply will not let it.
I call B.S. on that.
His middle name has a negative connotation not to the left, but to those who WANT it to, and to those who are susceptible to believing false rumors and having those rumors reinforced by the likes of Coulter.
I realize you are trying to pass-off all the blame to "the left", and absolutely none to Coulter. ("She's just saying his name", as if it were a second-grader making an excuse to the principal).
How stupid you must think we all are.
To the left, his name DOES NOT have a negative connotation at all. However, the left knows that right-wingers like Coulter LOVE to take advantage of the fact that their fans like to hear her say the name in a perjorative fashion. Which she and others clearly are doing.
It doesn't matter if it "should be" a reason. It doesn't matter how the world is supposed to work, what matters is how it works.
There was an interesting quote in the movie Blackhawk Down. "See you're thinking. Don't. Cuz' Sergeant, you can't control who gets hit or who doesn't or who falls out of a chopper or why. It ain't up to you. It's just war."
Well this is just politics. That is just how it is.
Ben,
I agree with you. Obama aught to come out and show the world that he embraces his name and his heritage. He should be proud of it. (I suspect he is.) Obama could easily could turn it around the Cunningham's and Coulter's of the world by again linking his background to the great American Dream.
Even though I am not a Democrat, I am proud to live in a country like America where a person who's father was Muslim, can run for President while we are fighting Muslim extremists!
Heck, last I checked, nobody can pick their parents. Rather than cry about people using his name, they should rally around it as an example of the inclusiveness of the Democrats. By accepting and using his middle name all of the negativity can be removed.
I do not care for Obama's policy positions, but I admire him and like his style. His middle name could be Adolph for all I care. He may not have accomplished much yet, but that doesn't mean he won't. He is a classy guy. Obama represent so much of what is good in America. Fully embracing his heritage shows that the Democrats truly believe that the origin of his name is not the man himself.
Dave,
Ann Coulter purposely picks these politically incorrect items to tweak the left. She is laughing at you for falling for it.
Frankly, calling someone's name as politically incorrect makes me laugh at the absurdity.
Rather than accuse Coulter and Republicans are hate-mongers, which they are not, Democrats do not realize what a great opportunity it is every time someone like Coulter or Cunningham tease them with Obama's middle name. By grousing about it, Democrats look like they have bought into the fact that BHO's middle name is something to hide. They reinforce the negativity that they supposedly are fighting against.
Ann Coulter does this to placate the right. Her audience is right-wingers. Coulter, to them is the vehicle for their hatred of the left. They only WISH they could go on tv and say what she does. She does it for them, and with gusto.
These are the people who buy her books, read her columns, see her speak.
She is tweaking YOU, not the left.
She plays right into your fears, your hatred of the left. YOU are supporting her.
Her adoring audience (i.e., YOU) loves what she does, and what she does is play upon their fears, their prejudices, their bigotry, their hate. It is basically a Circle of hate. And you are part of it.
AA, have you ever heard Obama say he’s not proud of his name? That stuff about coming out and embracing his name lends credibility to the idea that he’s not proud of his name which you have NO proof.
Obama’s GRANDFATHER was Muslim. His father was raised Muslim but was atheist as an adult.
Pearlene,
Thanks for the correction. I admit I do not follow Obama enough to accurately know his geneology or his parent's religion.
I too admit that I have never heard Obama speak about his past or parents, so if I made what turns out to be a statement that is mistaken about Obama, I apologize.
I am only reacting to what I read here about Coulter and some of the stuff I read about Cunningham and McCain's denunciation of Cunnigham. Somewhere along the line, I hear that Obama was upset about Cunningham using his middle name. I may be very much in error. The acceptance speeches I've heard from Obama haven't specifically mentioned his middle name or much about his parents, except that he was poor and raised by a single mother. I think Obama's story is a great one and a great inspiration.
After seeing a few threads on this issue over Obama's middle name, I simply feel that those outraged here have it all wrong. I think Obama supporters should not try object to others using his middle name. Doing so only works against Obama.
Supporters DO NOT object to using his middle name.
It is when right-wingers obviously, clearly, repeat the name, as Coulter does here, purely with a certain intent, that they object.
The difference is quite obvious, making your protests of "she's just saying his name" disingenuous, and insulting to everyone's intelligence.
AA, this Obama supporter does not object to the use of Obama middle name, it’s their purpose for using it that I don’t like.
Cunningham using Obama’s middle name in the same sentence as the word prophet. It’s design to leave folks thinking that Obama is Muslim. Of course Cunningham and the right-wing wackos have also defined the word 'Muslim' as hating Americans. You take the two irrational and incorrect thoughts together and you have fear, distrust and dislike. It’s the same with Annie. Saying his middle name is designed to appeal to the folks they’ve already prepped by making them afraid of the word Muslim, add thought of Saddam Hussein to the 29% who still believe that Saddam was a terrorist who had something to do with 9/11 and presto, mission accomplished. After all Obama must be related to Saddam, they have the same middle name.
While I’m aware of the stupidity and ignorance of those who believe the Cunningham’s and Annie’s, I still think it's important to point out when some use Obama’s middle name as a tool to further their right-wing wacko agenda.
Plug for McCain:
A lot of GOP talking heads are starting to move against Coulter, Limbaugh, etc. Mike Adams wrote a very anti-Coulter piece today on Townhall.com, and he is by no means a moderate.
Just like some of the morons who think if Clinton/Obama are elected, we'll get another Reagan in 4 years, maybe you guys will vote for McCain, knowing he probably won't run for a 2nd term and that it will likely permanently crush any remaining legitimacy Coulter, Limbaugh, and Malkin have? Maybe?
Conservative "humor" is "funny" in the same way that an obscene phone call is "sexy".
A perfect example of that is the comic strip "Mallard Fillmore". It's the most un-funny thing ever on the comic pages - it makes Prince Valiant look humorous.
WZ, I still get the LA Times on Sunday, and they stopped running Mallard Fillmore a while back. I was pretty disappointed, being a big fan of horrible humor. I looked forward to having hundreds of hours of am radio boiled down to 4 or 5 panels. He has his "feminist" character (angry fat woman with NOW button, thick glasses and unisex hairdo), the "conventional wisdom" dinosaur (a strawman spouting brontosaurus, setting up thr "liberal" position for the killer punchline), and of course the title character duck, who has the same hat as Drudge.
But back to Coulter, I think other posters are right in seeing that the reaction and hysteria from lefties is mostly in her delusional mind. Using "Hussein" is just silly and desperate, it plays only to the most ill-informed and frightened part of the GOP base, and nobody on the left is really too excited about it, nor are they telling anybody they're forbidden from using a candidate's middle name.
Only pointing out how embarrassing it is that America-haters like Coulter don't have anything on the issues, and so are reduced to desperate and probably useless tactics like chanting "B. Hussein" to her poople.
On second thought, I shouldn't speak for anybody else. So I'll ask this of the liberal or liberal-leaning posters;
Have any of you suggested that anybody should not be allowed to say "Husein"?
Do any of you get "ticked off", "hysterical" or feel any other emotion but pity for Annie-Christ or any of the others who are so bereft of ideas that saying "Hussein" is part of their A game of political tactics?
Thanks, August. I understand your reaction to it, I guess mine is just not so much anger as embarrassment (as an American) that there is even a small minority that AC appeals to with this childish crap.
Maybe it's the optimistic side of me that keeps these things from getting much of a reaction out of me. I have dealt with people in real life who I've heard excuse their ignorance with "I don't think America's ready for a Muslim president", and I've straightened out a couple of them on facts (as far as I know. Ha!), and I've felt frustrated that some of our fellow voters are so misinformed.
I can understand getting "ticked off" at those who perpetuate the misinfo. as well, I guess I just feel it's more productive for me to not pay attention to the propagandists, but to try to nullify their work whenever I get the chance.
Understandable. I just don't understand why America has to get ready for a black, female or Muslim president. Or why hatred is more tolerable from one side than it is from another. Hate is hate. Anne Coulter has been given a platform on MSNBC, NBC, Fox etc. It really is sad because so many Americans object to Jesse Jackson and call him a race baiter. WTF? What do these same people call Coulter.
My thoughts are they don't call her anything, they instead shake their heads in agreement.
I agree with you. I feel embarrassment for the eejits that must be wilfully ignorant enough to beleive her pile of poop , and the ones that counter with the other BS that's been demonstrated on this board from the usual suspects. Pretty lame stuff.
Hi Juliajayne, I guess it's just more of that projection we've come to expect from the wingnuts. Something like this;
WINGNUT MEDIA HOOCHY: (ridiculous comment)
REASONABLE POSTER: "Gee, that's a really weak attempt at an attack, I can't believe it works on anybody"
WINGNUT POSTER:"Look at you! You're hysterical!! You're falling right into her trap!!!
REASONABLE POSTER: mmm, no.... not hysterical, not even impressed, except for the fact that somebody actually believes she's shocking.
WINGNUT POSTER:"LOLOLOL!!! She sure is shocking!!! Look how crazy you're getting!!!"
and so on..
If the only reason the MSM keeps giving a platform to Coulter is shock value, why are all these shocking pundits white racists? "Shocking" Blacks don't get talk shows and commentary spots, they get fired or never hired in the first place. When was the last time you saw America's favorite Black shock, Louis Farrakhan, on MSM?
...because it is so much easier to say "funny" things than generate cogent arguments pointing out differences in platforms?
How many times can you pull out the "it was just a joke" card and get a free pass for nonsensical crud? How many more time do we need to hear someone repeat bigotry, the apologive if we were offended?
I've read some of Ms. Coulter's work...it is crude, it draws unsubstantiated conclusions from historical documents, it creates positions based on stringing unrelated items together to form some tenuous connections.
How much work does it take to find someone with some career or educational background to discuss something of merit? Why can't we have professors and policy wonks instead of self-serving talking heads?
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Awesome!
She's the only who's hysterical. No one is saying people can't use Obama's middle name. They're just wondering what the point is ... other than being so funny, of course.
My mom used to tell me that What's My Line had Dorothy Kilgallen as a panelist because people disliked her and would tune in just to get riled up. Some things never change.
This will, however, be the last time I read about or comment on coulter.
Coulter is not to be taken seriously but the democratic hysteria over the senator's middle name is intersting. middle nAME OR NOT HE'D never get my vote...umm, qualifications? resume?
And for those of you who'll reply, "what about Bush?" you're just helping to fuel my fire. CAUSE IT"S THE SAME POINT!
That said would I vote for someone with the middle name hussein? Nope. Not in today's day and age. Let the name calling begin but this is an honest post. Does that feeling come from prejudice and potentially unfair bias? Yep but it is what it is and with other candiates available that's just how it is. I'd never vote for a candiate not born from this country(if laws were changed). To me it's not prejudice. It's just copmmon sense.
And for those of you who'll reply, "what about Bush?" you're just helping to fuel my fire. CAUSE IT"S THE SAME POINT! It's just copmmon sense.
LOL, you talk about making sense? Too funny!
Obama is the same as spoiled kid from a wealthy family who got into Yale because of his family name and connections, barely graduated with a "C" average then proceeded to become a alcoholic and a drug addict, not sober until age 40? Oh and he never traveled outside the US? Yeah that's making about as much sense and not voting for someone based on their name.
That said would I vote for someone with the middle name hussein? Nope. (Lolo)
How about somebody with red hair? a wheat allergy? Jewish? Blood type "O"? a cowlick? Sorry, I'm just trying to get an idea of the criteria that some of my fellow Americans take into the voting booth with them. It helps me to understand things like George Bush.
I understand what your getting at Colonel, and I would most definitely vote for a qualified candidate who had a cowlick or a wheat allegy.
I would have a problem voting for someone who was lactose intolerant or gluten intolerant.
I believe there is too much intolerance in the world today. We need to take a stand against all forms of intolerance.
I actually have a triple crown
Wow. You must run real fast...
Lolo: "I'd never vote for a candiate (sic) not born from (sic) this country"
Well thank you for not wasting your vote on McCain, then, who was born in Panama.
Coulter is not to be taken seriously but the democratic hysteria over the senator's middle name is intersting.
The "hysteria" is yours:
That said would I vote for someone with the middle name hussein? Nope. Not in today's day and age.
No need to call you names. You is what you is.
I would believe Trann was saying it to be funny, but there's one glaring fact s/he is overlooking.
S/He's never been funny in his/her life.
Why should Obama's middle name even arouse such denial within the democrats?? Should they not shrug and say, 'well that's the name his pappy gave him" rather then ponder whether his middle name should be used or not??
Obama should handle this with dignity as Romney handled the attacks on his Mormonism, by acknowledging his middle name and accepting it for all to see.
It is the use of his name as a perjorative bludgeon (e.g., Coulter, above) in order to pander to mouth-breathing, right-wing hatemongers & prejudiced bigots. THAT is what's being objected to.
It's THOSE people --the right-wing haters who are frightened-by-brown-skin & foreign names-- that lack the dignity and maturity. They're the ones with the problem--not Democrats.
If I were the interviewer, after she said they call him by his middle name because it makes Democrats hysterical, my response would have been "So you just do it to piss them off? Wow, that is so PUNK ROCK!! and you're almost 50!! Hardcore!!"
If that is the real reason, she's lame and childish. and if it's not (and it's not, Tommy), it's still lame, that's the best they've got?