Discussing Clinton's tax returns, MSNBC's Buchanan did not note that McCain has not released his returns
SUMMARY: On MSNBC, while saying that Sen. Hillary Clinton should release her tax returns, Pat Buchanan asserted, "[L]ook, there's an awful lot of money that those two made, and they want to see where the money came from, especially where Bill's income came from if they filed a joint return," adding, "And I think Republicans will demand it." However, Buchanan did not note that Sen. John McCain also has not released his tax returns.
On the March 7 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe, while saying that Sen. Hillary Clinton should release her tax returns, MSNBC contributor and guest host Pat Buchanan asserted, "[L]ook, there's an awful lot of money that those two made, and they want to see where the money came from, especially where Bill's income came from if they filed a joint return," adding, "And I think Republicans will demand it." However, Buchanan did not note, as several in the media have reported, that Sen. John McCain so far has not released his tax returns. For example, The Wall Street Journal reported on February 23: "The presumptive Republican nominee, Arizona Sen. John McCain, hasn't released his tax returns either. His campaign has said it won't decide whether to release the returns until after he is officially the nominee." Primary victories March 4 gave McCain "a total of 1,205 delegates, 14 more than the 1,191 required to secure the Republican nomination."
From the March 7 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe:
MIKA BRZEZINSKI (co-host): OK, Pat Buchanan, I guess my question to you is, I feel -- I don't know if I'm the only one who feels this way, but I feel like the real difference between these candidates is Hillary Clinton's legacy in the White House with her husband, and all these other potential mysteries and questions that could be dredged up, like, Ken Starr-related, and whether voters want to go back there or not. And Barack Obama's newness, freshness, but perhaps a big question mark. Why would he do that?
BUCHANAN: Well, that is -- I mean -- I don't know why [Clinton spokesman Howard] Wolfson did that. I mean, as I understand it, all Barack did, said, "Why doesn't Hillary release her tax returns?" And if -- you're getting a little bit sensitive when you start comparing that to a Ken Starr attack. But Mika, you are really --
BRZEZINSKI: Yeah. I mean, is there something wrong with those returns?
BUCHANAN: If there -- I don't know. My guess is they -- look, there's an awful lot of money that those two made, and they want to see where the money came from, especially where Bill's income came from if they filed a joint return.
BRZEZINSKI: Right.
BUCHANAN: And I think the Republicans will demand it.
But Mika, you're exactly right. Look, this is Hillary's problem. What problems you mentioned are exactly her problem.
Perhaps if Clinton hadn't made a big deal of her opponent in 2000, Rick Lazio, on this very issue, she wouldn't be getting the scrutiny she is getting.
I'm just sayin...
You misunderstood. I am not saying it's about payback at all. It's about the hypocrisy. They made it an issue in 2000, now they act all well we will by April 15th or something.
If it was good enough for Lazio, why can't they live by the same demands they made of an opposing candidate 8 years ago?
Because they are the Clintons.
Typically, it's used to find a nanny they didn't pay employment taxes for, or other irregularities.
Tommy, you're the one that first brought up Lazio as some sort of paragon of virture ... I just let you know, he wasn't. He's a poor role model. Since then, you've bent over backwards to try and make him into something he wasn't.
And if you think "don't be an idiot" is "lashing out", you need to get some thicker skin buddy.
Stop putting words in my mouth, I had no opinion of Lazio one way or another, I have no clue where you get that from - role model, how absurd. I brought him up as a way to show how the Clintons called for his tax returns back in 2000, yet they hem and haw their way around it now, when it's them. It has nothing to do with Lazio, it has everything to do with the hypocrisy of the Clintons.
If you were honest, you'd admit it.
But Tommy, you brought up Lazio. All I've been trying to do is show you he's a crappy example. He was asked to provide them long after April 15th, he didn't for months and finally relented with edited versions that he wouldn't allowed to be copied.
If Senator Clinton releases hers by April 15th, that's fine with me. It would be better if she did it earlier, but if she doesn't have them ready yet, what is there to release?
Tommy, you yourself said that Hillary was planning to release her taxes around April 15- which by my count is six weeks away. Why are you so against waiting SIX WEEKS? Are you insinuating that she has committed some sort of crime? Are you saying that she should give them up IMMEDIATELY, otherwise she is hiding something? Really? Damn that's thick.
Your example using Lazio is silly. Even if it were comparable, Lazio took MONTHS to release his taxes. Hillary is planning to release hers in approximately six weeks. Quit trying to spin something that's not there. It makes you look like small-minded. You're better than that.
I'm just sayin'...;)
Talk about thick, both of you are dismissing the point. Which is the hypocrisy of the Clinton campaign making it an issue back in 2000, which you both conveniently avoid. Well, sorry, it isn't about Lazio, and it isn't about April 15th, and it isn't about how long it took Lazio, or the fact that she will before the tax deadline.
It is the fact SHE made it an issue then. I know you both can see that, you're just intentionally diverting to avoid admitting it. It's ok, but I thought you were better than that......guess not.
Naw--the real reason she is slow to release the returns is that she will thus be identified as a member of that most horrid class of folks, the people who need to be punished, punished, punished!!!...yes, she is part of that group called (allow me a coupla seconds to get the nomenclature straight) THE MOST FORTUNATE AMONG US...or is it THE RICHEST AMONG US...
Anyway, the message IS and has always been (when agitating the mob) SUCCESS MUST BE PUNISHED!
Her tax return will cause confusion for thinking people. Better to delay.
Kernel,
You may display your knowledge re: taxation on the coupla lines left on this page. It's more than enough space.
Oh, and how about we stick to the pertinent point of the article: to wit, McCain also hasn't released his tax returns, and Buchanan would seem to be all right with that.
With the hundreds of millions McCain's wife is worth, I'd bet there's a much greater chance of some hanky panky there.
Seems to me that she is planning to release her tax returns. I don't understand why this is an issue...tax deadline isn't until April 15 or so...many people, maybe the Clintons themselves, wait until the very last minute to file their taxes.
Could it be that their taxes haven't been prepared yet?
Could it be that they have been prepared but not submitted to the IRS? If so, why would she make her tax returns public before filing them with the IRS?
Just because she doesn't release her tax returns when YOU want her to release them doesn't mean she is hiding anything. Again with the whole, "if you have nothing to hide..." bullsh|t. Gimme a break.
When she REFUSES to release her tax returns, get back to me. Otherwise, this is a bunch of WAAAAH crybaby BS (she won't release her taxes to me NOW) I want them NOW! WAAAAH! Veruca Salt, anyone?
I'm just sayin'... ;)
Buchanon is a partisan. That's why he didn't mention it. It's not difficult to understand. MMFA is partisan, too, which is why they don't mention certain things. Lot's of things, as a matter of fact. Doesn't mean they are obligated to.
Neither is Buchanon.
Bruce, give a list and I'll make sure that MMFA does what you want. Honest. And I'll be releasing my return once I get a job and make some money and file. What is it, file every 10 years or so.
Personally, I want to see Dick Cheney's returns for they past 30 years. This civil servant is supposedly worth over $100 million...and he can't hit a curve ball....but he can sure throw them.
Lets see:Wages or profits for 2007
Trafficing in human slavery..................................2.3Mill
Selling blackmarket fissile materials.....................4.6Mill
Recruiting for various Islamofacist's organisations.0.5Mill
Sucking businesses dry.....................................20.0Mill
Athletic user steriods production..........................1.5Mill
Pronography......................................................5.8Mill
Total................................................................34.7Mill
Give or take a few Mill, ok then? I'm running for small feral mammal harassor and I want buy your vote. I'm running under cover for candor and cookies.
As hard as it may try to pass itself off as a news balanced network, MSNBC is no different than Fox news. What are the journalistic credentials of Mika Brzezinski and others on MSNBC, as well as the credentials of their political analysis like Pat Buchanan whom for most part are Republicans and whos opinions are always bigoted and skewed to the right? What would one expect from these double standerd one-sided conversations.