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Politico's Harris and VandeHei misrepresented Harris' own interview with Obama

March 19, 2008 4:59 pm ET

SUMMARY: The Politico's Jim VandeHei and John F. Harris claimed in an article that "[w]hen pressed on a voting record that the National Journal called the most liberal in the Senate, [Sen. Barack] Obama dismissed ideological labels as 'old politics.' " However, when Harris asked Obama about the National Journal's vote ratings in a previous interview, Obama initially responded by criticizing the Journal's methodology; Obama referred to "old politics" moments later in response to Harris' question about whether he is "comfortable with the liberal label."

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In a March 18 article, Politico executive editor Jim VandeHei and editor-in-chief John F. Harris reported that "[w]hen pressed on a voting record that the National Journal called the most liberal in the Senate, [Sen. Barack] Obama dismissed ideological labels as 'old politics.' " However, when Harris asked Obama about the National Journal's 2007 vote ratings during the February 11 Politico/WJLA interview to which VandeHei and Harris were presumably referring, Obama initially responded by criticizing the methodology the Journal used. Obama referred to "old politics" moments later, when Harris asked Obama whether he is "comfortable with the liberal label."

During the February 11 Politico/WJLA interview, Harris said to Obama, "Senator, you were ranked recently by National Journal as having the most liberal voting record ... in 2007," and then asked Obama to respond to a reader who wondered whether Obama's "liberal record should give us confidence that you can reach across the aisle and get things done in Washington." Obama responded by criticizing the Journal's methodology, asserting: "Well, first of all, not to grouse against the National Journal, but let me give you an example of why I was rated the most liberal was because I wanted an office of public integrity that stood outside of the Senate, and outside of Congress, to make sure that you've got an impartial eye on ethics problems inside of Congress. Now, I didn't know that it was a liberal or Democratic issue. I thought that was a good government issue that a lot of Republicans would like to see. So that's the problem with some of these ratings -- how they score things. It uses categories that I think don't make sense to a lot of Americans." As Media Matters for America has documented, among the other votes Obama took that purportedly earned him the Journal's "most liberal senator" label were those to implement the 9-11 Commission's homeland security recommendations, provide more children with health insurance, expand federal funding for embryonic stem-cell research, and maintain a federal minimum wage.

It was in response to this question from Harris, asked moments later, that Obama referred to "old politics": "Are you comfortable with the liberal label?" Obama replied, "This is what I would call old politics. This is the stuff we're trying to get rid of. Because the problem is, when we start breaking down into conservative and liberal, and we've got a bunch of set predispositions ... Those old categories don't work, and they're preventing us from solving them problems."

From the Politico's transcript of the February 11 Politico/WJLA interview with Obama:

JOHN HARRIS: Senator, you were ranked recently by National Journal as having the most liberal voting record as having the most liberal voting record [sic] in 2007. That prompts a question from Politico reader Don Mousch (sp.?) or [sic] Norwell (sp.), Mass. He wants to know what they [sic] liberal record should give us confidence that you can reach across the aisle and get things done in Washington.

OBAMA: Well, first of all, not to grouse against the National Journal, but let me give you an example of why I was rated the most liberal was because I wanted an office of public integrity that stood outside of the Senate, and outside of Congress, to make sure that you've got an impartial eye on ethics problems inside of Congress. Now, I didn't know that it was a liberal or Democratic issue. I thought that was a good government issue that a lot of Republicans would like to see. So that's the problem with some of these ratings -- how they score things. It uses categories that I think don't make sense to a lot of Americans.

LEON HARRIS (WJLA): Well, are you proud of that designation? To be known as the most liberal voting senator?

OBAMA: I don't think you heard what I just said, which is that the designations don't make sense

JOHN HARRIS: Michael Dukakis said, "Yes, I'm proud to be a liberal." Bill Clinton said, "No we can't cast ourselves as liberals." Are you comfortable with the liberal label?

OBAMA: This is what I would call old politics. This is the stuff we're trying to get rid of. Because the problem is, when we start breaking down into conservative and liberal, and we've got a bunch of set predispositions, whether it's on gun control, or its' [sic] on health care, any attempt to do health care is socialized medicine. Any discuss [sic] about taxes ends up being, are you raising them or lowering them, as the opposed to the question I ask -- are we raising them for high income individuals that can afford it, and lowering them for lower income people who really need help. Those old categories don't work, and they're preventing us from solving them problems.

From the March 18 Politico article:

Truth be told, Obama and his most fervent supporters often have acted as if he could end some of the most persistent divisions in American life by proclamation.

When pressed on racial questions, Obama usually invoked his own biography and achievements and appealed to America's hunger for unity. When pressed on a voting record that the National Journal called the most liberal in the Senate, Obama dismissed ideological labels as "old politics."

The [Rev. Jeremiah] Wright uproar showed that there is no way to sneak race and ideology through customs, blinding skeptics with his life story and phrase-making. The candidate will need to address these volatile topics directly.

But this was becoming clear even before the Wright story caught fire.

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    • Author by nonbearing137 (March 19, 2008 5:13 pm ET)
         

      obama says hes a uniter, not a divider.  but has he ever reached across the aisle to work with the republicans?  no.  has he ever reached out to the president on anything? no

      he's as divisive as they come.

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      • Author by dazedandconfused26 (March 19, 2008 5:17 pm ET)
           

        Funny that's not what Republicans in Illinois say.

        http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/52/

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        • Author by nonbearing137 (March 19, 2008 5:20 pm ET)
             
          well, can't argue with that.  but what about after he left illinois?
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          • Author by friedbergboy1422 (March 19, 2008 5:28 pm ET)
               

            Does Richard Lugar count?

            http://lugar.senate.gov/press/record.cfm?id=278019

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          • Author by pete592 (March 19, 2008 5:37 pm ET)
               

            Does Tom Coburn count?

            link

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            • Author by friedbergboy1422 (March 19, 2008 5:40 pm ET)
                 

              How about Sam Brownback and others?

              http://www.grist.org/news/muck/2005/11/22/obama/

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              • Author by pete592 (March 19, 2008 5:43 pm ET)
                   
                I think it's clear that Nonbearing prefers to shoot from the hip blindfolded instead of using the Google.
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            • Author by ConstanceRifleII (March 19, 2008 5:42 pm ET)
                 

              "Forty-three Senators co-sponsored S. 2590 including Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-TN), Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV), Tom Carper (D-DE), Susan Collins (R-ME), Joe Lieberman (D-CT), John McCain (R-AZ), Hillary Clinton (D-NY), John Kerry (D-MA), John Cornyn (R-TX) and others."

              From your link above.

              So Bill Frist, John Cornyn, and Susan Collins must not be real Republicans.  We already know McCain isn't one.

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              • Author by nonbearing137 (March 19, 2008 5:50 pm ET)
                   
                a fiscal responsibility bill, big deal.
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                • Author by ConstanceRifleII (March 19, 2008 5:55 pm ET)
                     

                  It disproves your point.

                  "but has he ever reached across the aisle to work with the republicans?  no."

                  -you

                  We showed you where he worked with Republicans, yet you said they weren't real Republicans.

                  We showed you where he worked with real Republicans, but it was just a spending bill, so it doesn't really count 

                  Okay, just keep moving the goalposts to suit your needs.

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                  • Author by nonbearing137 (March 19, 2008 6:04 pm ET)
                       
                    does a cosponsor actually do anything?
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                  • Author by nonbearing137 (March 19, 2008 6:04 pm ET)
                       
                    does a cosponsor actually do anything?
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                  • Author by nonbearing137 (March 19, 2008 6:04 pm ET)
                       
                    does a cosponsor actually do anything?
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                    • Author by ConstanceRifleII (March 19, 2008 6:12 pm ET)
                         
                      "10 more yards boys, we wanna make these goalposts out of reach for everyone!"
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                    • Author by mary59 (March 19, 2008 11:19 pm ET)
                         
                      Does a nonbearing ever learn anything? Does a nonbearing ever learn anything? Does a nonbearing ever learn anything?

                      Swak!
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                      • Author by nonbearing137 (March 19, 2008 11:24 pm ET)
                           
                        i don't think so.  nonbearing was chosen as i was going over some plans for a small remodel of my house, and there was a question about whether a certain wall was bearing or nonbearing.  it was the latter.
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            • Author by ConstanceRifleII (March 19, 2008 5:43 pm ET)
                 
              So what say you, nonbearing?  Are all these Republicans not actually Republicans?
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            • Author by nonbearing137 (March 19, 2008 5:45 pm ET)
                 

              isn't this the guy they call dr. no?

              this database is hardly a controversial matter. 

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      • Author by MoonbatYouBet (March 19, 2008 8:30 pm ET)
           

        The Republican idea of bipartisan cooperation and compromise is "You go ahead and do what we say, but it's ok if you don't smile about it." 

        Until they lost the majority.  Now suddenly they wonder why nobody wants to work with them after nearly a decade of that routine.

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      • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (March 19, 2008 11:23 pm ET)
           
        President Bush today signed the Lugar-Obama proliferation and threat reduction initiative into law.
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    • Author by wolfbato (March 19, 2008 5:31 pm ET)
         
      Does Politico ever get it right? It's really getting embarrassing.
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    • Author by fawltylogic (March 19, 2008 10:46 pm ET)
         
      Politico summed it up pretty good here. Don't know why MMFA thinks this is misinformation.
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