David Gregory allowed Republican strategist to claim: "Barack Obama's talked about paratroopers in Islamabad"
SUMMARY: MSNBC's David Gregory did not challenge Republican strategist Mike Murphy's false claim that "Barack Obama's talked about paratroopers in Islamabad, for heaven's sake." In fact, Obama has stated that "[i]f we have actionable intelligence about high-level Al Qaeda targets in Pakistan's border region, we must act if Pakistan will not or cannot." A Media Matters review found no examples of Obama calling for dropping "paratroopers in Islamabad" or anywhere else in Pakistan.
During the March 19 edition of MSNBC's Race for the White House, Republican strategist Mike Murphy falsely claimed, "Barack Obama's talked about paratroopers in Islamabad, for heaven's sake," a claim left unchallenged by host David Gregory. In a March 19 speech on Iraq and national security, Obama reiterated a statement that he made in his August 1, 2007, speech on the subject: "If we have actionable intelligence about high-level Al Qaeda targets in Pakistan's border region, we must act if Pakistan will not or cannot." He later added, "Indeed, it was months after I called for this policy that a top Al Qaeda leader was taken out in Pakistan by an American aircraft." However, in neither speech did Obama discuss dropping "paratroopers in Islamabad," as Murphy stated. Moreover, a Media Matters for America review of the Nexis database for the past five years yielded no examples of Obama calling for the use of paratroopers either in Islamabad or Pakistan in general.*
In discussing Pakistan during his speech, Obama went on to assert that his position on the country has been "distorted and derided ... suggesting that I would quote invade or bomb Pakistan." Indeed, Media Matters has repeatedly documented instances in which media figures misrepresented what Obama has said about taking action against Al Qaeda targets in Pakistan in order to claim that he would "bomb" or "invade" the country.
From Obama's March 19 speech on Iraq and national security (video of full speech is here):
OBAMA: To succeed in Afghanistan, we also need to fundamentally rethink our Pakistan policy. For years, we have supported stability over democracy in Pakistan, and gotten neither. The core leadership of Al Qaeda has a safe haven in Pakistan. The Taliban are able to strike inside Afghanistan and then return to the mountains of the Pakistani border. Throughout Pakistan, domestic unrest has been rising. The full democratic aspirations of the Pakistani people have been too long denied. A child growing up in Pakistan, more often than not, is taught to see America as a source of hate and not hope.
This is why I stood up last summer and said we cannot base our entire Pakistan policy on President Musharraf. Pakistan is our ally, but we do our own security and our ally no favors by supporting its president while we are seen to be ignoring the interests of the people who live there. Our counter-terrorism assistance must be conditioned on Pakistani action to root out the Al Qaeda sanctuary. And any U.S. aid not directly needed for the fight against Al Qaeda or to invest in the Pakistani people should be conditioned on the full restoration of Pakistan's democracy and rule of law.
The choice is not between Musharraf and Islamic extremists. As the recent legislative elections showed, there is a moderate majority of Pakistanis, and they are the people we need on our side to win the war against Al Qaeda. That is why we should dramatically increase our support for the Pakistani people -- for education, economic development, and democratic institutions. That child in Pakistan must know that we want a better life for him, that America is on his side, and that his interest in opportunity is our interest as well. That's the promise that America must stand for.
And for his sake and ours, we cannot tolerate a sanctuary for terrorists who threaten America's homeland and Pakistan's stability. If we have actionable intelligence about high-level Al Qaeda targets in Pakistan's border region, we must act if Pakistan will not or cannot. Senator Clinton, Senator McCain, and President Bush have all distorted and derided this position, suggesting that I would, quote, invade or bomb Pakistan. This is politics, pure and simple. My position, in fact, is the same pragmatic policy that all three of them have belatedly -- if quietly -- acknowledged is one we should pursue. Indeed, it was months after I called for this policy that a top Al Qaeda leader was taken out in Pakistan by an American aircraft. And remember that the same three individuals who now criticize me for supporting a targeted strike on the terrorists who carried out the 9-11 attacks are the same three individuals that supported an invasion of Iraq -- a country that had nothing to do with 9-11.
It is precisely this kind of political point-scoring that's opened up the security gap in this country. We have a security gap when candidates say they will follow Osama bin Laden to the gates of hell, but refuse to follow him where he actually is. What we need in our next Commander in Chief is not a stubborn refusal to acknowledge reality or empty rhetoric about 3 a.m. phone calls. What we need is a pragmatic strategy that focuses on fighting our real enemies, rebuilding alliances, and renewing our engagement with the world's people.
From the March 19 edition of MSNBC's Race for the White House with David Gregory:
JOE SCARBOROUGH (MSNBC host): I'm not trying to be hilarious, I'm just saying that this sort of gotcha, jeopardy politics may work with us and we may roll our eyes, but I've got a feeling that the people that decide who get elected don't care about this any more than they care about --
[crosstalk]
GREGORY: Hold on.
SCARBOROUGH: -- intelligence committee made the same mistake.
[crosstalk]
GREGORY: Hold on. Mike Murphy, go ahead. Mike Murphy, go ahead.
MURPHY: Yeah. John McCain is praying, is praying every day that this election comes down to expertise on foreign policy. Barack Obama's talked about paratroopers into Islamabad, for heaven's sake. So this is the gaffe; it's a speed bump. He corrected himself. Everybody knows McCain's strong suit --
GREGORY: All right.
MURPHY: -- is this foreign policy stuff. The question is the economy and --
[crosstalk]
GREGORY: I got one more item --
RACHEL MADDOW (MSNBC analyst): And he showed a huge weakness on his strong suit --
GREGORY: Hold on, I got one more item to get into the "The War Room." Today's last look behind the campaign curtain: Indiana is the new New Hampshire?
* A search of the Nexis database for the past five years using the terms "Obama" and "paratrooper!" and "Islamabad" or "Pakistan" found no examples of Obama advocating or discussing the use of paratroopers in Pakistan.















I'd like to propose that all newscasts that feature "experts" like Mike Murphy require them to be connected to a polygraph - just like that "Moment of Truth" program on Fox. Wouldn't it be great to have someone like Murphy spew something stupid like he always does, and have a voice come on to say "THAT ANSWER IS ...... FALSE."
:-)
Or even better, have some cables hooked up to a 12-volt battery, with alligator clips attached to the pundit's....... well, you get the picture.
YES YES YES
I vote we start that now, because otherwise I'm going to have to buy a new television.
Ah the art of exaggeration. Just once I'd like to see a non-tilted media figure call one of the talking heads (or all of them on their bluff, something like "Actually, that's not what he said at all. When did you hear him say that, so-and-so?"
SAVE DEMOCRACY, VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT!!
I love how when a Democrat is in the mix of commentators they are nearly always identified as a Democrat, but when a Republican Political operative is in the mix they are allowed to pontificate as though they were objective, even an expert on Democratic Politics!
Todd, Kurtz, Murphy are only amoung the few that try to pass off as Democratic political experts while being little more than Republican counter point. Fair and Balanced is the catch phrase for Fox, but it's the cloak the corporate media hides itself behind.
Happy Thoughts;
Dan Grady
MURPHY: Yeah. John McCain is praying, is praying every day that this election comes down to expertise on foreign policy.
I guess Murphy has been impressed with McCain's recent Iran/Iraq mash-ups, and his confusion about Al Qaeda..
To educated people with two brain cells to rub together MORON.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs
Paki / Pakki (Primarily UK and Canada, sometimes US and India) a South Asian. Within the UK, the term originates in Northern England, where large number of South-Asians arrived in the 1950s and 1960s, and where they and their descendents have settled in cities such as Bradford and Leeds. It is usually considered offensive when used by a non-South Asian in the UKTry to keep up it isnt our fault you are so stupid.
The fact there are MORE offensive racial slurs doesnt change the FACT it is a racial slur. Not common in the US as it is in the UK but a racial slur nonetheless. I didnt accuse you of being racist here. I assumed you didnt know realize it, giving you the benifit of the doubt, and said something. I assume if someone is using a racial slur without knowing it that they would WANT to know.
my mother went to school with iva toguri
Are you sure you're not historybuff? Boy, I sure do miss his jet-set lifestyle reports. Maybe he's working undercover for the CIA now, infiltrating Obama's church or something.
You have quite the collection of racial slurs at the ready. Maybe you can help me out. I have a neighbor who appears vaguely asian, but kind of latino as well. Being that I never asked him his name, do you know of a fitting racial epithet that I can cowardly mumble under my breath the next time I see him doing something in his particular latino-asian manner? Any help would be mighty white of you. (please don't answer)
OOOOOHHHHHHH.
Alright, nonbearing. Let's meet behind the basketball court after school to settle this like real 13 year olds.
Though Gregory is a better replacement for Tucker Carlson, he doesn't use his interrogating skills we often see with his battles with Bush press briefings on his tv show. It’s like watching two different people, one a pitbull journalist who seeks the truth from our chimp of a president, the other a lapdog journalist who allows right wingers to spread propaganda.
But despite all of that, I still like him, though (that could be because I have a little crush on him). :)
Can't coment on your taste Preston. The clip didn't identify him, if he was on camera.
Did notice Rachel Maddow getting talked over. She'd have probably ripped him a new one if she'd been able to make a statement. IMO
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Can't coment on your taste Preston. The clip didn't identify him, if he was on camera.
Hey, what can I say, I have a thing for white guys who can bust-a-move! ;)
As for Rachel Maddow, I love her. She's usually pretty good when she argues with Pat Buchanan. Oddly they work well off each other. Maybe MSNBC will make the right move and give her a show, with Buchanan being a regular guest.