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Limbaugh: "Obama has disowned his white half ... he's decided he's got to go all in on the black side"

March 21, 2008 8:10 pm ET
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SUMMARY: On his radio show, Rush Limbaugh said of Sen. Barack Obama's handling of the controversy surrounding remarks by Rev. Jeremiah Wright: "It is clear that Senator Obama has disowned his white half, that he's decided he's got to go all in on the black side."

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On the March 21 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show, while discussing Sen. Barack Obama's handling of the controversy surrounding remarks by his former pastor, Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright, Rush Limbaugh asserted that, "in dealing with this, [Obama] has thrown his white grandmother under the bus, and then, yesterday [March 20], drove the bus backwards and ran over her, where he threw her under the bus, by calling her a typical white woman." He added: "[I]t is clear -- now, this is the stuff, this is the part that might bother some of you. It is clear that Senator Obama has disowned his white half, that he's decided he's got to go all in on the black side." Limbaugh had earlier said: "[Y]ou know, opening these race wounds like this, taking us back 30, 40 years, making it look like no progress has been made -- what Barack Obama has done -- I'm going to say something here that might offend -- or not offend -- but might maker some uncomfortable. But it is clear to me that there has been a major transformation in Senator Obama."

Limbaugh aired a clip of Obama's March 20 interview with Philadelphia sports radio station WIP 610, during which Obama referred to comments he made about his grandmother in his March 18 speech on race. In the clip that Limbaugh played, Obama stated: "The point I was making was not that my grandmother harbors any racial animosity -- she doesn't. But she is a typical white person, who, if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know, you know, there's a reaction that's been bred into our experiences that don't go away and that sometimes come out in the wrong way." Limbaugh responded by asking: " 'Typical white person'? What does this finally reveal about Obama?" He continued: "He is not transcendent on race. Obama is telling us that he is a black American first and an American second."

Limbaugh also addressed the recent murder of University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, student body president Eve Carson, stating, "I have a question: I wonder how white college students at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, are feeling these days. I wonder if they are nervous walking down the street, and they see a couple of black boys dressed in baggy clothes with their hats on backwards swaggering toward them. I wonder how they feel. I wonder if it makes them fear that they're going to be shot in the face for their ATM cards and their PIN numbers. Obama, do you think that there might be reasons here rather than this being inbred?"

From the March 21 broadcast of Premiere Radio Networks' The Rush Limbaugh Show:

LIMBAUGH: How about Obama on the radio in Philadelphia? We have the audio sound bite. Listen to this. Obama threw his grandmother under the bus at the speech on Tuesday, then, yesterday, he put the bus in reverse and ran over her.

OBAMA [audio clip]: The point I was making was not that my grandmother harbors any racial animosity -- she doesn't. But she is a typical white person, who, if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know, you know, there's a reaction that's been bred into our experiences that don't go away and that sometimes come out in the wrong way.

LIMBAUGH: "Typical white person"? What does this reveal finally about Obama? He is not transcendent on race. Obama is telling us he is a black American first and an American second. Typical white -- his grandmother, who raised him, is a typical white woman? And that these kinds of inordinate fears are bred? I have a question: I wonder how white college students at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, are feeling these days.

I wonder if they are nervous walking down the street, and they see a couple of black boys dressed in baggy clothes with their hats on backwards swaggering toward them. I wonder how they feel. I wonder if it makes them fear that they're going to be shot in the face for their ATM cards and their PIN numbers. Obama, do you think there might be reasons here rather than this being inbred? Typical white woman? Obama has exposed [unintelligible] -- and that's why, ladies and gentlemen, "Passport-gate" is such a welcome arrival for both Obama and the drive-by media.

[...]

LIMBAUGH: You know what? These people, these Democrats are turning practically everything they do into a joke. And this Obama stuff, that stuff is serious. This -- you know, opening these race wounds like this, taking us back 30, 40 years, making it look like no progress has been made -- what Barack Obama has done -- I'm going to say something here that might offend -- or not offend -- but might make some uncomfortable. But it is clear to me that there has been a major transformation in Senator Obama. And it is this: Up until the videos of the right Reverend Wright showed up, Barack Obama had succeeded in transcending race. And there were a lot of people, on the Republican side, too, who felt really good about the guy. He was smart, well-spoken. He was competent. He was able to excite crowds. He looked young and fresh and new, and furthermore, he was black, but it didn't matter to him. He transcended race.

Then the Reverend Wright stuff hits, and that's -- I mean, there's no escaping this. I don't care what kind of speech you make. With average Americans, forget the drive-bys, with average Americans, there's no escaping that. There's no escaping what people heard Reverend Wright said. And if -- as I have heard some drive-by media analysts say -- if most white people in America were shocked at Reverend Wright, when we are told that Reverend Wright's not that uncommon in America in terms of black churches, and what he said is not that uncommon in terms of what many black Americans believe, white America, shocked, thought so much more progress had been made on this. And so, Obama, in dealing with this, has thrown his white grandmother under the bus, and then, yesterday, drove the bus backwards and ran over her, where he threw her under the bus, by calling her a typical white woman.

So, all -- typical white what? Typical white -- no? Typical white woman -- typical white person. Whatever. Typical white person. And now, it is clear -- now, this is the stuff, this is the part that might bother some of you. It is clear that Senator Obama has disowned his white half, that he's decided he's got to go all in on the black side, and therefore, I think -- I saw this endorsement. Bill Richardson, who has -- grab sound bite 22. Bill Richardson, showing up with a goatee and a dangling mustache, like Fu Manchu with the beard -- with a little goatee there. And that's not by accident, ladies and gentlemen.

You know, there's a big argument in the -- between the Hispanic community and black community over who is the official American minority, because the official American minority gets the goodies, and so, there's animosity. And I'm thinking, we might be looking at the Democrat [sic] ticket here. And what little I was able to listen to, because of commercial breaks and everything, Richardson was on fire. Here is the actual endorsement that we got today of Obama from Bill Richardson.

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    • Author by megabot (March 21, 2008 8:23 pm ET)
         

      He launches another anti-black, racist tirade against Obama again.

      He has another Don Vito moment on the show.
      Obama has exposed [unintelligible] 

      And he refers to the Democrats as the "Democrat Party" again, 'cause he gets an orgasm every time he does that. This is the voice of the Free Republic Party. 

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    • Author by MoonbatYouBet (March 21, 2008 8:29 pm ET)
         

      Thank you Rush for giving a perfect example of what Obama was saying with the grandmother reference, not that you knew you were doing it. 

      See, when a white criminal is arrested for a heinous crime, he represents nothing more to most other white people than a twisted individual.  But when the criminal is black they somehow become representatives for their entire race.   This is a subtle form of racism that most people have subconsciously, not just black and white, but more Us vs The Other.  It is in our social natures to classify poeple and differences in physical features and pigmentation make it easy to identify The Other.  This becomes racism when people don't try and correct that thinking but instead try to use is as a rational thinking system.  Until you get to know an individual member of The Other it is easy to apply stereotypical thinking to them.  Even after making friends with a member of the maligned minority some people are still unable to stop thinking in this faulty way.  "Well, my friend Dave isn't like that, not like the rest of them."

      The trick to overcoming racism of any flavor is exposure to a wide variety of The Other and realizing that they are just as individualistic as Us.

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      • Author by mr. l (March 21, 2008 8:33 pm ET)
           
        I agree.  The problem is that some of these armchair philosophers are not interacting with the 'others'.  Some embrace diversity, some rebel against it. 
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      • Author by willakp8209 (March 21, 2008 11:02 pm ET)
           
        You are so right.  But most of the people who follow Rush Limbaugh can't follow a legitimate train of thought.  Rush is "typical" of many white people who think they aren't prejudiced. 
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      • Author by IRONY 101 (March 22, 2008 6:47 am ET)
           
        Excellent post, Moon...
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      • Author by ddsharper (March 23, 2008 3:18 am ET)
           
        Well stated.
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    • Author by mr. l (March 21, 2008 8:30 pm ET)
         

      I swear- this *person* is being enabled by his producers.  What do they thbink he is doing?  Educating- no; Analysis- puh-leeze; and himself 'the official american minority gets the goodies'. What?  Come on- put him to sleep.

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      • Author by greekfurnace (March 21, 2008 8:37 pm ET)
           

        It's called 'firing up the base'... just wait and see what happens when Obama gets the nomination. These guys wil invent a whole new language of racism... 

        Just the fact that Limbaugh says a thing like 'he found his white side...nows he's gone back to ...." It's all black and white with these guys - literally, figuratively, intellectually...  

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      • Author by finarfin (March 22, 2008 12:56 am ET)
           
        Mr L. the "öfficial" American minority does indeed get the goodies, in the form of specialized programs and an inordinate amount of pandering. This all leads to the conclusion that the minority most "disparaged" gets the most money by way of getting the most attention. 
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        • Author by loonz (March 22, 2008 10:20 am ET)
             

          Even with the scraps the government throws at minorities, White males still have an overwhelming advantage in this society.

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        • Author by mr. l (March 22, 2008 11:06 am ET)
             
          Please elaborate on these 'specialized programs', 'inordiniate amount of attention', and 'monies' that the most disparaged minority 'gets'.  What are they, and how can I, as a white male, get some because I feel left out in society.  I mean, jeez- aren't WE the 'new minority'? We are victimized, ridiculed, discriminated against, have horrible school systems, low paying or no jobs, prejudiced law enforcement, and so on.  YOU women, blacks, latinos, koreans, thai, non-christains just don't know HOW GOOD you have it!  Quit complaining! 
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        • Author by funnymanpants (March 22, 2008 5:06 pm ET)
             

          Fanarfin wrat:

          >>[doesn't matter because he is *literally* a Neo-Nazi]

          ***

          Well clevantine, A saying that has just nascented (by my design) from the white nationalist movement is; we are here, we are strong, we shall prevail.

          * - finarfin / Saturday March 1, 2008 9:17:42 PM EST

          You my friend seem to be one of those who think that the right wing is of a McCain type model. You are wrong, your outrage at savages "hate speech" is nothing more than a reflexive regurgitation of the liberal propaganda fed to you since childhood. I think that those days of white dominion were grand old times, its what could be the golden age of white civilization.

           * - finarfin / Tuesday February 5, 2008 1:23:49 AM EST

          John i salute you for defending conservative America along with men like Savage. I see and it pains me greatly that Europe has gone the way of authoritarian oppressive democracies draped in the burqa of equality. The cradle of civilization has been lost to the radical progressive Utopians and we can now see their ilk spouting socialism on the democratic side. But there is hope, the nationalist hard-right is re surging in Europe in the face of the injustice dealt upon it's people, it may be a bloody political change yet no less weak a movement would be able to overtake the deeply rooted progressive liberalism.

          * - finarfin / Tuesday February 5, 2008 1:18:18 AM EST

          Well, inter racial mairrages are indeed an abomination, and equal segregation would be beneficial for all parties involved.

          * - finarfin / Thursday January 24, 2008 10:55:44 AM EST

          For there are liberals i know, who like me believe that for whatever reason the black race is on average lower in intellectual performance levels than whites or Asians. Does this make them supremacists?  technically it does, and so even if such a thing where proved, it would be denied by society. For it is similar to the reluctance of people to accept that the earth was round, even though there was evidence that it indeed was.

          - finarfin / Friday January 25, 2008 5:59:33 PM EST


          Nonetheless t'was about states rights. Slavery is in fact just a base economic method, but a viable method nonetheless. Do not make southerners out to be some unlearned bunch of crackers, You know the negro likewise inhabits this region. Are you saying that ALL southerners including black folks are stoopid??

          * - finarfin / Monday January 21, 2008 1:22:45 AM EST
           

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        • Author by heru (March 23, 2008 9:21 pm ET)
             

          What a moron. There is no such thing as an "official" American minority. This is just another attempt by sick white nationalists to divide and rule "The Other". The Richardson endorsement really has these Nazis worried.

          BTW reparations are not "goodies". They are remedies for sociopathic white racism.

          ---------------------------------------------

          Mr L. the "öfficial" American minority does indeed get the goodies, in the form of specialized programs and an inordinate amount of pandering. This all leads to the conclusion that the minority most "disparaged" gets the most money by way of getting the most attention. 

          • - finarfin
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    • Author by roundhouse (March 21, 2008 8:50 pm ET)
         
      Go f yourself rush. How many time have you uttered the phrase typical liberal thereby exposing yourself as a Republican first and an American second?

      Typical Republican A-hole.
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      • Author by ripper76 (March 21, 2008 9:04 pm ET)
           

        And then you do the exact same thing.

        Pot, this is kettle...

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        • Author by roundhouse (March 21, 2008 9:17 pm ET)
             
          Good to see you have no ability to recognize sarcastic irony.

          But I ain't here to be nice or above the fray.
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          • Author by ripper76 (March 21, 2008 9:33 pm ET)
               
            Oh yeah, " Typical Republican A-hole." is always spoken with sarcastic irony on this site. 
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            • Author by roundhouse (March 21, 2008 9:47 pm ET)
                 
              Quit cryin'.

              You disgust with your pissy pants schtick. I'll say what I want to say the way I want to say it. My point is Rush is nothing more than another jerk-off Republican hypocrite.

              No doubt the fact Rush is a hypocrite is lost on you. You can't help it, I know. It's the way of the Republican to forgive lies, hypocricy and bile so long as it serves the prime objective of political victory.
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              • Author by ripper76 (March 21, 2008 10:21 pm ET)
                   

                "I'll say what I want to say the way I want to say it."

                 

                Rush however, is not allowed to do the same.  

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                • Author by roundhouse (March 21, 2008 10:43 pm ET)
                     
                  Did I say that? Did I imply that? You're getting the vapors over nothing.

                  He can say whatever he wants, I don't care.

                  But there you go, this is a perfect example of victimus republican typicalus. "Mean ol Roundhouse criticized Rush, that means he wants Rush silenced, this is an outrage. The libs are out to get us. Oh, the unfairness of it all."

                  I get it. Republicans like yourself will stop at nothing to control the debate.

                  Too bad. I ain't playin' that game.

                  Our future is simply too important to let culture demagogues like Limbaugh go unchallenged. Rush's vision, the conservative vision is deeply flawed. Out there born of the conservaitive worldview is a steaming pile of failures at which to point.

                  Republicans do not deserve our trust. It's really that simple.
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                  • Author by finarfin (March 22, 2008 1:10 am ET)
                       

                    " the _______ vision is deeply flawed. Out there born of the _________ worldview is a steaming pile of failures at which to point." -R.

                    Now fill in the blanks with the word liberal, and you have what conservatives think of liberalism.

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                    • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (March 22, 2008 2:54 am ET)
                         
                      Do conservatives ever have any original thoughts?
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                      • Author by finarfin (March 22, 2008 1:25 pm ET)
                           
                        Actually my intent was to point out the observation that both conservatives and liberals have very similar reasoning leading up to their opposition of the respective opposite on the political spectrum. 
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                        • Author by pointybongo9213 (March 22, 2008 2:36 pm ET)
                             
                          There is one fundamental difference between liberals and conservatives: liberals tend to criticize the policies and attitudes of conservatives, while conservatives (whose ideas are now exposed as morally and ethically bankrupt) almost always resort to below-the-belt personal attacks. The "politics of personal destruction" definitely found its apotheosis in the right wing.
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                        • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (March 23, 2008 4:06 am ET)
                             
                          You didn't show any reasoning, just the "I know you are, but what am I" response that 6 year olds use.
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                          • Author by greatjob (March 23, 2008 4:22 am ET)
                               
                            Aren't you the jerk that just said conservatives have no original ideas?
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                            • Author by solon (March 23, 2008 5:31 am ET)
                                 
                              Arent you the jerk who is usually tossing out these one liners that say incredibly ignorant and rude things about liberals? I think you are.
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                              • Author by heru (March 23, 2008 9:24 pm ET)
                                   
                                The "ideas" of Nutjob and his ilk have been around since slavery days.
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                                • Author by greatjob (March 24, 2008 5:00 pm ET)
                                     
                                  In a way, you are correct. They've been around since the Republican Party abolished slavery.
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                              • Author by greatjob (March 24, 2008 4:50 pm ET)
                                   

                                Your hypocrisy is overwhelming. You are one of the most mean-spirited people on this website, and you paint with a broader brush about those with whom you disagree than almost anyone I know. Get a life, you old codger.

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                            • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (March 24, 2008 2:24 am ET)
                                 

                              Aren't you the jerk that just said conservatives have no original ideas?- greatjob

                              If you're asking me, then yes. POsters names are right below the comments. Which part of that has you confused, and what's your point?

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                    • Author by roundhouse (March 22, 2008 9:23 am ET)
                         
                      Ohh, you told me.
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                    • Author by funnymanpants (March 22, 2008 5:05 pm ET)
                         

                      Finarfin is a Neo-Nazi (which is why he will end up on threads defending racist comments), so please don't engage him. Here are his quotes from the past:

                      ***

                      Well clevantine, A saying that has just nascented (by my design) from the white nationalist movement is; we are here, we are strong, we shall prevail.

                      * - finarfin / Saturday March 1, 2008 9:17:42 PM EST

                      You my friend seem to be one of those who think that the right wing is of a McCain type model. You are wrong, your outrage at savages "hate speech" is nothing more than a reflexive regurgitation of the liberal propaganda fed to you since childhood. I think that those days of white dominion were grand old times, its what could be the golden age of white civilization.

                       * - finarfin / Tuesday February 5, 2008 1:23:49 AM EST

                      John i salute you for defending conservative America along with men like Savage. I see and it pains me greatly that Europe has gone the way of authoritarian oppressive democracies draped in the burqa of equality. The cradle of civilization has been lost to the radical progressive Utopians and we can now see their ilk spouting socialism on the democratic side. But there is hope, the nationalist hard-right is re surging in Europe in the face of the injustice dealt upon it's people, it may be a bloody political change yet no less weak a movement would be able to overtake the deeply rooted progressive liberalism.

                      * - finarfin / Tuesday February 5, 2008 1:18:18 AM EST

                      Well, inter racial mairrages are indeed an abomination, and equal segregation would be beneficial for all parties involved.

                      * - finarfin / Thursday January 24, 2008 10:55:44 AM EST

                      For there are liberals i know, who like me believe that for whatever reason the black race is on average lower in intellectual performance levels than whites or Asians. Does this make them supremacists?  technically it does, and so even if such a thing where proved, it would be denied by society. For it is similar to the reluctance of people to accept that the earth was round, even though there was evidence that it indeed was.

                      - finarfin / Friday January 25, 2008 5:59:33 PM EST


                      Nonetheless t'was about states rights. Slavery is in fact just a base economic method, but a viable method nonetheless. Do not make southerners out to be some unlearned bunch of crackers, You know the negro likewise inhabits this region. Are you saying that ALL southerners including black folks are stoopid??

                      * - finarfin / Monday January 21, 2008 1:22:45 AM EST
                       

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                      • Author by heru (March 23, 2008 9:32 pm ET)
                           
                        Finny leads the intellectual wing of the American Nazi Party. They call him Professor White.
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                • Author by doggone-ga (March 21, 2008 10:45 pm ET)
                     

                  "Rush however, is not allowed to do the same."

                  Get back to us with your complaint when Roundhouse has an internationally broadcast radio show.  THEN you can make that comparison.

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                • Author by princeofwheels (March 21, 2008 10:45 pm ET)
                     
                  Rush can say whatever he wants. Believe me none of it will take away from him being a biogt and an a-hole. And Ripper, you can say whatever you want. I just want to hear you say Rush is an a-hole. Other than that, who cares.
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                • Author by solon (March 21, 2008 11:10 pm ET)
                     
                  Of course he is. He can be as racist and ignorant as he wants. NO ONE said anything different. Then we get to criticise his racism and foolishness. When did you wingnuts get the idea that there is some first amendment RIGHT for you to spew nonsense and NOT be critices for it?
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                  • Author by greatjob (March 23, 2008 4:23 am ET)
                       
                    Probably when you started to drudge up the Fairness Doctrine
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                    • Author by solon (March 23, 2008 5:30 am ET)
                         
                      Wow. That was a dumb post on so many levels I hardly know where to start. First I personally never advocated the fairness doctrine. Second there is no free speech issue at stake in the fairness doctrine as the Supreme Court has already ruled. You wingnuts can keep telling this lie because you LIKE to lie in the vain hope one day it will magically become true but you may as well wish to grow wings and fly to Hawaii since that will happen first. Now Rush is smart enough to know this but he also knows he can lie to you hiveminders and have you regurgitate whatever he says like the demented Mynah birds you so resemble.
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                      • Author by heru (March 23, 2008 9:29 pm ET)
                           
                        Thats why he calls his cult followers "dittoheads". Imagine being so dumb that you're proud of being a ditsy dittohead ROFLMAO
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                      • Author by greatjob (March 24, 2008 4:57 pm ET)
                           

                        You said something above about being incredibly rude and ignorant. I responded, and this is further proof as to the validity of my response. Pot, meet kettle. And to you and your little sycophant (thanks for the nickname of "Nutjob," by the way): you call people who listen to Rush (I don't) lackeys who don't question what he says, and then you expect me to agree with a Supreme Court decision about free speech and the Fairness Doctrine solely on the basis that it came from that court. Selective reasoning? Oh well; you admitted Rush has some brain cells. I guess that's progress.

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              • Author by rumplestilskin396408 (March 23, 2008 1:12 pm ET)
                   
                rush will tell you he's not a republican, but a conservative.
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    • Author by big2xrube6146 (March 21, 2008 9:12 pm ET)
         
      Just more BS out of motor mouth Rush. Somedays he leaves 98.9% of his brain at home.
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    • Author by wookie (March 21, 2008 9:38 pm ET)
         
      You mean the righty pundits have suddenly lost faith in the Dem front runner? Well I am just shocked! So how long do you suppose he'll exploit that "scary black man throwing the white woman under the bus" image?
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    • Author by edenscape246494 (March 21, 2008 9:40 pm ET)
         

      Hey Whitey, where's your hat ?

      -Rodney Dangerfield

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      • Author by finarfin (March 22, 2008 1:14 am ET)
           

        "Hey Whitey, where's your hat ?" -E.

         You're wearing it, my dear [dark skinned] fellow.

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    • Author by Clevenative (March 21, 2008 9:56 pm ET)
         

      Keep it alive, Rush – fuel the fire – stoke it a bit – don’t let it die – pick the scabs – watch it bleed  - pleasure the agony – feed the lions – stir the hornets nest… You are one sick MFr.

      You’re a racist first, a drug addict second, an obese blob of dung third, a sexist pig forth, a ruthless Republican fifth, a phony hypocritical “Christian” sixth, an ….  I doubt “an American” would even make it in the top ten – and “human” is not even on the list – but "idiot" fits in there somewhere.

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    • Author by pawsie444 (March 21, 2008 9:58 pm ET)
         
      talking about taking a speech out of context.  this guy needs to go....
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      • Author by carlileb5935 (March 21, 2008 10:32 pm ET)
           

        agree-- but Obama should not have brought his grandmother into it in a negative way.

        What if Hillary has made derogatory references to her grandmother in order to make a point.? All hell would have broken loose. 

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        • Author by roundhouse (March 21, 2008 10:48 pm ET)
             
          Barack talked to us like adults in that speech. Can't you handle that?
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          • Author by roundhouse (March 21, 2008 11:57 pm ET)
               
            Just watched the Richardson endorsement of Obama. He used that same line about talking to us like adults. Now I feel like a doofus for using it here.
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          • Author by finarfin (March 22, 2008 1:21 am ET)
               

            "Barack talked to us like adults in that speech. Can't you handle that?"

             Like adults eh?? Well, since you are so mature and can "handle it," you don't mind if i refer to certain black folks as "typical"?? 

            So Hussein's racist wording is some sort of giant joke and wink only the "adults" are supposed to understand??

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            • Author by solon (March 22, 2008 1:35 am ET)
                 
              So your ignorant mischaraterization is supposed to make sense? Your racists stupidity is tired and disgusting. Grow up bigot.
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            • Author by clewill (March 22, 2008 11:55 am ET)
                 
              Fin is a typical load that someone should of swa_ _owed!
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            • Author by funnymanpants (March 22, 2008 5:08 pm ET)
                 

              Finarfin wrat:

              >>So Hussein's racist wording is some sort of giant joke and wink only the "adults" are supposed to understand??

              Finarfin is a Neo-Nazi, literally, so don't engage him 

              *** 

              Well clevantine, A saying that has just nascented (by my design) from the white nationalist movement is; we are here, we are strong, we shall prevail.

              * - finarfin / Saturday March 1, 2008 9:17:42 PM EST

              You my friend seem to be one of those who think that the right wing is of a McCain type model. You are wrong, your outrage at savages "hate speech" is nothing more than a reflexive regurgitation of the liberal propaganda fed to you since childhood. I think that those days of white dominion were grand old times, its what could be the golden age of white civilization.

               * - finarfin / Tuesday February 5, 2008 1:23:49 AM EST

              John i salute you for defending conservative America along with men like Savage. I see and it pains me greatly that Europe has gone the way of authoritarian oppressive democracies draped in the burqa of equality. The cradle of civilization has been lost to the radical progressive Utopians and we can now see their ilk spouting socialism on the democratic side. But there is hope, the nationalist hard-right is re surging in Europe in the face of the injustice dealt upon it's people, it may be a bloody political change yet no less weak a movement would be able to overtake the deeply rooted progressive liberalism.

              * - finarfin / Tuesday February 5, 2008 1:18:18 AM EST

              Well, inter racial mairrages are indeed an abomination, and equal segregation would be beneficial for all parties involved.

              * - finarfin / Thursday January 24, 2008 10:55:44 AM EST

              For there are liberals i know, who like me believe that for whatever reason the black race is on average lower in intellectual performance levels than whites or Asians. Does this make them supremacists?  technically it does, and so even if such a thing where proved, it would be denied by society. For it is similar to the reluctance of people to accept that the earth was round, even though there was evidence that it indeed was.

              - finarfin / Friday January 25, 2008 5:59:33 PM EST


              Nonetheless t'was about states rights. Slavery is in fact just a base economic method, but a viable method nonetheless. Do not make southerners out to be some unlearned bunch of crackers, You know the negro likewise inhabits this region. Are you saying that ALL southerners including black folks are stoopid??

              * - finarfin / Monday January 21, 2008 1:22:45 AM EST
               

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        • Author by MickD (March 22, 2008 7:51 am ET)
             
          I still don't think his grandmother reference was "derogatory." Honest, yes, aren't we all flawed in a certain way, but loved despite it?
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        • Author by fawltylogic (March 22, 2008 1:02 pm ET)
             

          He didn't throw her under the bus, unless you decide to edit his speech down to out of context soundbytes. Which is exactly what I knew would happen.

          How sad. 

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        • Author by heru (March 23, 2008 9:52 pm ET)
             

          Who are you to tell Obama what he can say about his own grandmother? Like you care more about her than he does/did?

          White racists are just upset that Obama is in a position to break the white wall of silence about their anti-Black attitudes.

          Waaah How dare you reveal our white racism! Waaah That is derogatory, you're betraying your own people, White racists unite! Waaaaaah

           

          ------------------------------------------

          agree-- but Obama should not have brought his grandmother into it in a negative way.

          What if Hillary has made derogatory references to her grandmother in order to make a point.? All hell would have broken loose. 

           

          • - carlileb5935
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    • Author by qprovidence (March 21, 2008 10:53 pm ET)
         

      Before mentioning his grandmother, it was still unclear why Obama would not take the politically easy move of disowning Wright.  After mentioning his grandmother, in one fell swoop Obama made it clear that he could not.  Anyone who continues to say that he must now would have to prove that they have disowned every person connected to them that holds views contrary to their own.  Who amongst us can make such a statement?

      The second thing that mentioning his grandmother did is highlight the truth that it is not the instance of racism or bigotry that defiles.  Obama judged his grandmother based upon the totality of his experience with him. . .not isolated events that highlight her imperfectness (a trait shard by us all).  He did the same for Wright.  I would ask him to do the same for me. 

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    • Author by princeofwheels (March 21, 2008 10:54 pm ET)
         

      Mr. Limbaugh, if Obama has disowned his white half does that mean he has disowned his family? Quite a stretch coming from a well-divorced man. Using your own logic Mr. Limbaugh, you have disowned the women in your life so would it be reasonable to suggest that you have decided to go all "in" with males? Just asking.

      Rush, remember what your ilk did to help get the Republans crushed in Black Rovember...keep it up, you will see double the devastation of the Republan Party this November. But what do you care? You'll be making money hand over fist. And you can tell your flock of sheep that they can hold their heads up high but should keep listening to your faulty logic. Come on Rush, you can do better than this, go ahead open your heart and call Obama what you want to call him...I dare you..and for the little ninny reading this for Rush, shame on you. Is your dignity worth the price you are paying?

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      • Author by ben (March 23, 2008 3:58 am ET)
           

        Not unlike how he wrote the book "The Way Things Ought to Be" and then Clinton was elected.

        His next book (1993)? "See, I Told You So".

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    • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (March 21, 2008 11:02 pm ET)
         
      I agree with  GREEKFURNACE . If Obama wins the nomination,the Republicans and their attack dogs in the media will come after him with a meanness and visciousness that will make the 2004 attacks on John Kerry look like a walk in the park.They realize that they  stand a very good chance of losing  the White House and they are terrified.
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    • Author by solon (March 21, 2008 11:13 pm ET)
         

      I guess Rushingdownthedrugaddiction mountain has disowned that miniscule part of him that was human and embrassed that reptilian, racist, screechmonkey part of himself. Well good he always WAS an embarassment to actual Homo Sapiens

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    • Author by bruce1ace (March 22, 2008 12:04 am ET)
         

      The discussion centers on Obama's three key words "typical white woman".  I thought the overall speech was very good, I certainly see it helping him overall as he moves forward after the inevitable defeat of Hillary and a very likely defeat of Senator McCain in November.

      But those three words are worthy of some serious discussion, because the word "typical" is very much in the eye of the beholder and can generate opposite reactions among people.  People see the word "typical" and imediately use their own mindset to define what that word means, rather than the mindset of the speaker, which we may not know.  Assuming Obama has a very favorable opinion of his grandmother, his "typical white person" comment may have been meant as a genuine compliment, as if to say "my grandmother is a typical white person which in my view is a non-racist, loving, caring, nurturing and kind person". 

      Others, who may see whites differently through their own experience, might use the term "typical" to describe whites as racist, evil, mean-spirited and greedy.  That would not be the way I see whites but I don't know that there is a universal definition for how a "typical" white person thinks.  I think that was Obama's sloppy mistake in an otherwise excellent speech.

      I strongly believe that generalizations should not be used when describing other groups because invariably they only serve to insult those within that group who aren't that way.  Clearly, both sides of the political aisle are guilty of this behavior and it continues to get people into trouble for being lazy in this way.  It's better to condemn the behavior or the individual instead of the larger group the individual is a member of so as to relieve the "guilt by association" tag from innocent bystanders.

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      • Author by bruce1ace (March 22, 2008 12:11 am ET)
           
        To correct an error I made in the above post, the "typical white person" remark was not part of the original speech but was from an interview about the speech as MMFA has documented above.
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        • Author by finarfin (March 22, 2008 1:29 am ET)
             

          So according to your point Bruce, we are supposed to assume the best of Obama statement and not take his words in context?? It is most logical to assume he meant "typical white person" in a negative way. 

          On a side note, Would there be a much greater fuss if McCain referred to a black friend of his as a "typical black person"?? Why, he could be complimenting him with his high opinion of blacks! This sort of thing indicates to me that we are still not over what i like to call 'apologist racism'.

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          • Author by bruce1ace (March 22, 2008 1:49 am ET)
               
            I don't think "typical black person" would fly at all, nor should it.  I have said that Obama's choice of words was a mistake in my view.
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            • Author by finarfin (March 22, 2008 1:40 pm ET)
                 
              i would like for your liberal compatriots who find nothing wrong with the fact that Obama used "typical white person" to respond to my query. Apparently according to them i as a white person am supposed to either look at the whole of his speech and gloss over this irksome detail or I should be an "adult" and take this as some sort of great joke.
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              • Author by solon (March 22, 2008 2:59 pm ET)
                   
                Look at my post above. He wasnt using the term in a way that demeans whites in general. It didnt buy into any racist stereotypes of whites. Didnt paint us as racists. I think you are reaching to make something out of it that isnt there. When he says typical white guy wants to reinstate slavery get back to us.
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              • Author by funnymanpants (March 22, 2008 5:10 pm ET)
                   

                Finarfin wrat:

                >>i would like for your liberal compatriots who find nothing wrong with the fact that Obama used "typical white person" to respond to my query.

                Finarfin is a Neo-Nazi, literally, so please do not engage him.

                ***

                Well clevantine, A saying that has just nascented (by my design) from the white nationalist movement is; we are here, we are strong, we shall prevail.

                * - finarfin / Saturday March 1, 2008 9:17:42 PM EST

                You my friend seem to be one of those who think that the right wing is of a McCain type model. You are wrong, your outrage at savages "hate speech" is nothing more than a reflexive regurgitation of the liberal propaganda fed to you since childhood. I think that those days of white dominion were grand old times, its what could be the golden age of white civilization.

                 * - finarfin / Tuesday February 5, 2008 1:23:49 AM EST

                John i salute you for defending conservative America along with men like Savage. I see and it pains me greatly that Europe has gone the way of authoritarian oppressive democracies draped in the burqa of equality. The cradle of civilization has been lost to the radical progressive Utopians and we can now see their ilk spouting socialism on the democratic side. But there is hope, the nationalist hard-right is re surging in Europe in the face of the injustice dealt upon it's people, it may be a bloody political change yet no less weak a movement would be able to overtake the deeply rooted progressive liberalism.

                * - finarfin / Tuesday February 5, 2008 1:18:18 AM EST

                Well, inter racial mairrages are indeed an abomination, and equal segregation would be beneficial for all parties involved.

                * - finarfin / Thursday January 24, 2008 10:55:44 AM EST

                For there are liberals i know, who like me believe that for whatever reason the black race is on average lower in intellectual performance levels than whites or Asians. Does this make them supremacists?  technically it does, and so even if such a thing where proved, it would be denied by society. For it is similar to the reluctance of people to accept that the earth was round, even though there was evidence that it indeed was.

                - finarfin / Friday January 25, 2008 5:59:33 PM EST


                Nonetheless t'was about states rights. Slavery is in fact just a base economic method, but a viable method nonetheless. Do not make southerners out to be some unlearned bunch of crackers, You know the negro likewise inhabits this region. Are you saying that ALL southerners including black folks are stoopid??

                * - finarfin / Monday January 21, 2008 1:22:45 AM EST
                 

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                • Author by heru (March 23, 2008 9:58 pm ET)
                     
                  Lets hope Finnyfin is not a typical white person. If so, the end of the world is near.
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      • Author by August Heat (March 22, 2008 12:33 am ET)
           

        But those three words are worthy of some serious discussion, because the word "typical" is very much in the eye of the beholder and can generate opposite reactions among people.  People see the word "typical" and imediately use their own mindset to define what that word means, rather than the mindset of the speaker, which we may not know. 

        Excellent observation Bruce.  I won't indict white America, but I will say the media does not want to own up to the truth.  There are many white people in America who, when seeing me on the street, would grab their purses or pocketbooks or bookbags or whatever closer.  I've seen it with my own eyes.  I'm college educated, work a full-time job and have never been arrested, but that is not what a lot of people see when they see me.  We can lie to ourselves or we can truly get past our issues and start accepting the truth.  I totally agree with you however, "typical" was a poor choice of word, but "typical" in his grandmother's youth is absolutely accurate of white sentiment towards African-Americans in the 50's and 60's. 

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        • Author by heru (March 23, 2008 10:02 pm ET)
             
          It is also accurate for the 70s through the dawn of the new millenium.
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      • Author by hogprint (March 22, 2008 9:48 am ET)
           

        " But she is a typical white person,"-BHO

        Yes mr obama...could you please explain what a "typical" white person is? 

        Why isn't MMfA offended by this and why hasn't the MSM been asking this question.  If McCain had said "typical BLACK person" I think there would be a whole different storm brewing. 

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        • Author by loonz (March 22, 2008 10:14 am ET)
             

          "But she is a typical white person,"

          I think he meant a White person who grew up in the era of segregation.  She was instilled with a certain philosophy that she mostly overcame but still showed a subtle form of racism.   Obama did explain this to some extent after saying "typical White person".

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        • Author by solon (March 22, 2008 2:56 pm ET)
             
          If it wasnt used to reinforce a racist stereotype I doubt there would be an uproar. I wouldnt be offended. Suppose McCain had said suppose a typical black person saw me in the street in my 3,000$ Suit, he would think I was a corporate fascist. I doubt anyone would throw a fit and that is analogous to what is being said here. You are reaching. This wasnt a remark meant to demean or belittle white people but spoke to widespread feelings of insecurity. The same as in my example. IF McCain said something about a typical black man on crack and wellfare now THAT would be a completely different thing.
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    • Author by truthseeker77 (March 22, 2008 12:45 am ET)
         

      Limbaugh's observation is smart.

      All we hear is that we may have the "first black president", not the "37th white president", or whatever number we are up to. 

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      • Author by August Heat (March 22, 2008 2:46 am ET)
           
        Truthseeker, if you don't get why the 'first black president' is a huge deal you only prove how out of touch with reality you are.  The odds of a president being white have been pretty consistent.  The odds of a black man being elected president were very small eight years ago.  Whether you choose to admit it or not, racism exist and people will find whatever excuse they need to massage their conscience as to why they wouldn't vote for a black man.  Hell, I thought the only time I would ever see a black president in my life was on the show 24.  At least I know now it can be done if a black candidate divorces himself from the black community and ties to the past. 
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      • Author by Brabantio (March 22, 2008 1:29 pm ET)
           

        "All we hear is that we may have the "first black president", not the "37th white president", or whatever number we are up to."

        How unfair!  If we're supposed to have equality, then the fact of electing our 44th white male Christian president should get as much notice as our electing a black or female president.

        What an absurdly idiotic comment.  Only someone ignorant enough to not know how many presidents we've had would find Limbaugh's observations intelligent. 

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        • Author by finarfin (March 22, 2008 1:49 pm ET)
             

          I believe what Truthseeker was trying to convey was that there should be no quota for race in the presidency, I know some of you liberals are looking at affirmative action for the presidency with shining eyes.

          Also i would like to point out that we should not vote for the black cadidate just because we've already 'had so many' white presidents. 

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          • Author by snoopy (March 22, 2008 1:52 pm ET)
               
            Really? We are? Name one and show the proof, please.
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            • Author by finarfin (March 22, 2008 1:58 pm ET)
                 
              Well there is a point bieng mentioned by some that there still is some racism subtly active in america, and thus a black candidate in the past didn't or still couldn't get elected. Naturally I just assumed you fellows wanted to "level the playing field." 
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              • Author by solon (March 22, 2008 5:37 pm ET)
                   
                No Fin you didnt think. You never do. You regurgitated ignorant racist BS. Its what you do. Its who you are. You have never had an actual thought in your LIFE that wasnt spoon fed you from Screechmonkey radio or at a KKK meeting. You are pathetic
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          • Author by Brabantio (March 22, 2008 4:52 pm ET)
               
            Celebrating a breakthrough has nothing to do with quotas or voting for someone black because we've had so many white presidents.  If that was his point, it's still idiotic.  But thank you for the wholly unbiased take from the White Nationalist perspective, that's very helpful.
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          • Author by funnymanpants (March 22, 2008 5:12 pm ET)
               

            Finarfin wrat:

            >>Also i would like to point out that we should not vote for the black cadidate

            Finarfin is a Neo-Nazi, so please don't engage him. 

            ***

            Well clevantine, A saying that has just nascented (by my design) from the white nationalist movement is; we are here, we are strong, we shall prevail.

            * - finarfin / Saturday March 1, 2008 9:17:42 PM EST

            You my friend seem to be one of those who think that the right wing is of a McCain type model. You are wrong, your outrage at savages "hate speech" is nothing more than a reflexive regurgitation of the liberal propaganda fed to you since childhood. I think that those days of white dominion were grand old times, its what could be the golden age of white civilization.

             * - finarfin / Tuesday February 5, 2008 1:23:49 AM EST

            John i salute you for defending conservative America along with men like Savage. I see and it pains me greatly that Europe has gone the way of authoritarian oppressive democracies draped in the burqa of equality. The cradle of civilization has been lost to the radical progressive Utopians and we can now see their ilk spouting socialism on the democratic side. But there is hope, the nationalist hard-right is re surging in Europe in the face of the injustice dealt upon it's people, it may be a bloody political change yet no less weak a movement would be able to overtake the deeply rooted progressive liberalism.

            * - finarfin / Tuesday February 5, 2008 1:18:18 AM EST

            Well, inter racial mairrages are indeed an abomination, and equal segregation would be beneficial for all parties involved.

            * - finarfin / Thursday January 24, 2008 10:55:44 AM EST

            For there are liberals i know, who like me believe that for whatever reason the black race is on average lower in intellectual performance levels than whites or Asians. Does this make them supremacists?  technically it does, and so even if such a thing where proved, it would be denied by society. For it is similar to the reluctance of people to accept that the earth was round, even though there was evidence that it indeed was.

            - finarfin / Friday January 25, 2008 5:59:33 PM EST


            Nonetheless t'was about states rights. Slavery is in fact just a base economic method, but a viable method nonetheless. Do not make southerners out to be some unlearned bunch of crackers, You know the negro likewise inhabits this region. Are you saying that ALL southerners including black folks are stoopid??

            * - finarfin / Monday January 21, 2008 1:22:45 AM EST
             

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          • Author by solon (March 22, 2008 5:35 pm ET)
               
            More racist claptrap from Finny the racist bafoon. Afirmative Action president? Obama has an electric oratory skill beyond McCains wildest dreams. He is smarter than McCain and in a debate will eat his lunch. None of this is an assurance he will make a better president but to even bring up the term Affirmative Action to attempt to demean Obamas OBVIOUS  talent is just your usual bigoted ignorance. Obama has MAD skills and everyone not blinded by their KKK sheets knows this is true.
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            • Author by heru (March 23, 2008 10:10 pm ET)
                 

              Talk about mad skills, Obama was President of the Harvard Law Review. This essentially means that he was the smartest law student in the country. Now we all find out what Harvard knew years ago....

              Obama 2008

              Once in a Lifetime

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            • Author by heru (March 23, 2008 10:11 pm ET)
                 

              Talk about mad skills, Obama was President of the Harvard Law Review. This essentially means that he was the smartest law student in the country. Now we all find out what Harvard knew years ago....

              Obama 2008

              Once in a Lifetime

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            • Author by heru (March 23, 2008 10:14 pm ET)
                 

              Talk about mad skills, Obama was President of the Harvard Law Review. This essentially means that he was the smartest law student in the country. Now we all find out what Harvard knew years ago....

              Obama 2008

              Once in a Lifetime

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    • Author by finarfin (March 22, 2008 1:43 am ET)
         

      "Obama is telling us he is a black American first and an American second" L.

      I had made this point before myself. We do not know whether or not Obama will have the interests of Blacks closer to heart, something that may lead to greater hostility against whites during his reign.

      "I wonder if they are nervous walking down the street, and they see a couple of black boys dressed in baggy clothes with their hats on backwards swaggering toward them. I wonder how they feel" L.

      Exactly, I can ascertain that i myself feel nervous when walking near such hoodlums. Their flashy gang symbolism, terrible taste and manner of wearing clothing along with their duck-like walk is an assault on the mind and senses. The mental anguish reaches a high point when such hoodlums open their mouths and utter a semi-coherent stream of grammar aversive slang laced with profanity. 

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      • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (March 22, 2008 2:11 am ET)
           
        Maybe if you didn't look so scared, you wouldn't have to experience their "terrible taste". Them hoodlums can spot a submissive a block away.
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        • Author by juliajayne (March 22, 2008 11:07 am ET)
             
          Uncle Kracker has a case of mental anguish? Now we know what's wrong with him.
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        • Author by finarfin (March 22, 2008 2:15 pm ET)
             

          "Maybe if you didn't look so scared, you wouldn't have to experience their "terrible taste". Them hoodlums can spot a submissive a block away." -C.H.S

           Believe me, they make a point of not disguising their revolting "styles". And yes i agree, "them hoodlums" have an eye out for "submissives", otherwise seen as future rape victims.

          They also know that they should not mess with certain people. 

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          • Author by solon (March 22, 2008 5:38 pm ET)
               
            Could you BE any more of the characiture of a disgusting racist moron?
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          • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (March 22, 2008 8:41 pm ET)
               
            Have you tried carrying a breath mint, Fin?
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          • Author by heru (March 23, 2008 10:35 pm ET)
               

            Finny reveals his fear of being raped by a Black teenager wearing low rider jeans and a baseball cap.  [excuse me while I vomit] 

            No wonder Finny got mad at Obama for pointing out that fear of Black men is a typical white attitude. There is nothing typical about a grown white man fearing homosexual rape by a Black teenager.

            --------------------------------------------------

             

            Believe me, they make a point of not disguising their revolting "styles". And yes i agree, "them hoodlums" have an eye out for "submissives", otherwise seen as future rape victims.

            They also know that they should not mess with certain people. 

             

            • - finarfin
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            • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (March 24, 2008 2:28 am ET)
                 
              Heru, I don't think it's just a "fear" if he's commenting on their 'terrible taste". I think his "diplomatic skills" involve some oral persuasion.
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      • Author by August Heat (March 22, 2008 2:36 am ET)
           

        Finarfin you're so ignorant it's almost comical.  Please get nootered.

        I have a non partisan question for all posters here at MediaMatters for America.  Why is it if a man (or woman) is half spanish and half asian they're seen as being both spanish and asian, but if a white person has a drop of black blood in them they're considered black? 

        Which brings me to my point:  Why is Obama being questioned about what race he is or who he's loyalty to when he was raised by his white mother and grandmother?!?  Yes he said he cannot disown the black community, but he is just as equally white and owes his entire upbringing to his caucasian family.  Am I alone in my thinking?  Like I said in another post, I won't indict white America, but I'm just not getting the media right now.

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        • Author by eweston8542983 (March 22, 2008 11:34 am ET)
             

          AT, the Spainish have a long history in Asia. The Phillipines in particular. A large part of the American Indian population have genetic roots in Asia. The Spainish left a deep imprint in the Americas as well. There has been a certain mixing in peoples minds on their collective identitys.

          Barack has shown some real stateman like qualities. I'd have no trouble voting for him. I don't really see race based decisions coming out of him. He's us not them.

          The media's primal movers are out of touch with much of the social reality that we experience daily. At some level or levels they are of a racist out look. They and their peers in government and industry back the coercive philisophy. The media's part is to tell us that this is good. In some cases this power will be pried from their cold dieing hands.

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        • Author by princeofwheels (March 22, 2008 12:06 pm ET)
             

          Mr. Heat, I have associates that complain about Obama being black and constantly remind them about his white heritage. Doesn't mean a thing to most people? It is the color of his skin that they see...and I remind them that they are just plain wrong.

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        • Author by finarfin (March 22, 2008 2:26 pm ET)
             
          August heat, a part black person is considered Black because 1. they most likely look "black" because of the genetic dominance of dark pigments, 2. IT is very likely that they themselves consider themselves "black" (perhaps because they resemble other Negroids). 

          He was raised by white guardians, and to this i attribute his cultured mannerisms that resemble those of the "white devil."  He is as a 'typical black person' might say; a "white man's Negro." 

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          • Author by solon (March 22, 2008 3:01 pm ET)
               
            And you are a racist piece of work. I dont know which is more offensive. Your racist ignorance or your ignorant racism.
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          • Author by funnymanpants (March 22, 2008 5:18 pm ET)
               

            Finarfin wrat:

            >>He was raised by white guardians, and to this i attribute his cultured mannerisms that resemble those of the "white devil."  He is as a 'typical black person' might say; a "white man's Negro."u 

            Please do not engage this Neo-Nazi, besides noting that he is a Neo-Nazi.

            ***

            Well clevantine, A saying that has just nascented (by my design) from the white nationalist movement is; we are here, we are strong, we shall prevail.

            * - finarfin / Saturday March 1, 2008 9:17:42 PM EST

            You my friend seem to be one of those who think that the right wing is of a McCain type model. You are wrong, your outrage at savages "hate speech" is nothing more than a reflexive regurgitation of the liberal propaganda fed to you since childhood. I think that those days of white dominion were grand old times, its what could be the golden age of white civilization.

             * - finarfin / Tuesday February 5, 2008 1:23:49 AM EST

            John i salute you for defending conservative America along with men like Savage. I see and it pains me greatly that Europe has gone the way of authoritarian oppressive democracies draped in the burqa of equality. The cradle of civilization has been lost to the radical progressive Utopians and we can now see their ilk spouting socialism on the democratic side. But there is hope, the nationalist hard-right is re surging in Europe in the face of the injustice dealt upon it's people, it may be a bloody political change yet no less weak a movement would be able to overtake the deeply rooted progressive liberalism.

            * - finarfin / Tuesday February 5, 2008 1:18:18 AM EST

            Well, inter racial mairrages are indeed an abomination, and equal segregation would be beneficial for all parties involved.

            * - finarfin / Thursday January 24, 2008 10:55:44 AM EST

            For there are liberals i know, who like me believe that for whatever reason the black race is on average lower in intellectual performance levels than whites or Asians. Does this make them supremacists?  technically it does, and so even if such a thing where proved, it would be denied by society. For it is similar to the reluctance of people to accept that the earth was round, even though there was evidence that it indeed was.

            - finarfin / Friday January 25, 2008 5:59:33 PM EST


            Nonetheless t'was about states rights. Slavery is in fact just a base economic method, but a viable method nonetheless. Do not make southerners out to be some unlearned bunch of crackers, You know the negro likewise inhabits this region. Are you saying that ALL southerners including black folks are stoopid??

            * - finarfin / Monday January 21, 2008 1:22:45 AM EST

             

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          • Author by August Heat (March 23, 2008 12:50 pm ET)
               

            August heat, a part black person is considered Black because 1. they most likely look "black" because of the genetic dominance of dark pigments, 2. IT is very likely that they themselves consider themselves "black" (perhaps because they resemble other Negroids). 

            - The comedian Finarfin

            Narfy, I'll make this brief.  Why is it children play with one another regardless of race?  Because they don't see color until the difference is taught to them.  Half black, half white, half phillipino, half spanish, one race.  Human.  We are all taught to notice our superficial differences, but culture is what defines us.  I support American culture, not black or white.  Now go ahead, give me some more of your comical genius. 

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            • Author by Brabantio (March 23, 2008 11:40 pm ET)
                 
              Those children are just race traitors who don't know any better yet.
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      • Author by IRONY 101 (March 22, 2008 6:53 am ET)
           

        "We do not know whether or not Obama will have the interests of Blacks closer to heart, something that may lead to greater hostility against whites during his reign."

        Are Republicans born so terrified or is this something acquired during life?

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        • Author by finarfin (March 22, 2008 2:29 pm ET)
             

          "Are Republicans born so terrified or is this something acquired during life?"

          Irony, republicans are as terrified of him as democrats are scared of the so called "Bush III". 

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          • Author by roundhouse (March 23, 2008 5:32 pm ET)
               
            Sorry. You are uninformed.

            Republicans are most definitely scared. They're scared because fear is how they motivate, fear is how they intimidate. Fear for your marraige, gay folks are gonna wreck it. Fear equality for women, they'll forget their place in the family.

            Fear is the message of the GOP. They fear that man is naturally bad at heart and must be controlled lest he unleash his sinister imaginings on his fellow humans.

            Not so with the rest of us. Regular folks are simply too reasonable and well informed to be afraid of McCain.

            Everybody can already see what a heap of economic, foreign policy and scientific setbacks we will be given with another term of conservative disenlightenment.

            Conservatism is a disaster. Lefties are too concerned for our collective future to waste time being afraid of hokey conservative beliefs.
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      • Author by princeofwheels (March 22, 2008 12:03 pm ET)
           

        Finafin, Exactly when was the last time you were assualted by these hoodlums walking down the street? Must have left a terrible scar on thinking.. Please elaborate about the robbery and beating..or was it just in your mind that it could happen? I wonder what they were thinking about you with the little alligator on your shirt. I am sure they wanted that shirt.

        Really, when were you last mugged? Or is there a friend of a friend of a friend that this happened to?

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        • Author by finarfin (March 22, 2008 2:42 pm ET)
             

          Prince,

          due to my skillful diplomatic ability i am usually able to avoid violence in a confrontation and thus spare all unnecessary trouble.

          The fact is that such hoodlums are belligerents, I do not go out of my way to [openly] irk them by flashing opposing gang symbolism, or telling them that their socioeconomic status has little chance of betterment on the path they are currently taking.

          I have [thankfully] not had such an inner city experience as a mugging, But I'm still young and there's still time to have a first.  

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          • Author by funnymanpants (March 22, 2008 5:20 pm ET)
               

            Finarfin wrat:

            >>due to my skillful diplomatic ability i am usually able to avoid violence in a confrontation and thus spare all unnecessary trouble.

            Finarfin is a Neo-Nazi, who in the past has ranted some of the most racist cant.

            ***

            Well clevantine, A saying that has just nascented (by my design) from the white nationalist movement is; we are here, we are strong, we shall prevail.

            * - finarfin / Saturday March 1, 2008 9:17:42 PM EST

            You my friend seem to be one of those who think that the right wing is of a McCain type model. You are wrong, your outrage at savages "hate speech" is nothing more than a reflexive regurgitation of the liberal propaganda fed to you since childhood. I think that those days of white dominion were grand old times, its what could be the golden age of white civilization.

             * - finarfin / Tuesday February 5, 2008 1:23:49 AM EST

            John i salute you for defending conservative America along with men like Savage. I see and it pains me greatly that Europe has gone the way of authoritarian oppressive democracies draped in the burqa of equality. The cradle of civilization has been lost to the radical progressive Utopians and we can now see their ilk spouting socialism on the democratic side. But there is hope, the nationalist hard-right is re surging in Europe in the face of the injustice dealt upon it's people, it may be a bloody political change yet no less weak a movement would be able to overtake the deeply rooted progressive liberalism.

            * - finarfin / Tuesday February 5, 2008 1:18:18 AM EST

            Well, inter racial mairrages are indeed an abomination, and equal segregation would be beneficial for all parties involved.

            * - finarfin / Thursday January 24, 2008 10:55:44 AM EST

            For there are liberals i know, who like me believe that for whatever reason the black race is on average lower in intellectual performance levels than whites or Asians. Does this make them supremacists?  technically it does, and so even if such a thing where proved, it would be denied by society. For it is similar to the reluctance of people to accept that the earth was round, even though there was evidence that it indeed was.

            - finarfin / Friday January 25, 2008 5:59:33 PM EST


            Nonetheless t'was about states rights. Slavery is in fact just a base economic method, but a viable method nonetheless. Do not make southerners out to be some unlearned bunch of crackers, You know the negro likewise inhabits this region. Are you saying that ALL southerners including black folks are stoopid??

            * - finarfin / Monday January 21, 2008 1:22:45 AM EST
             

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      • Author by clewill (March 22, 2008 12:39 pm ET)
           
        Obama is telling us he is a black American first and an American second" L.

        I had made this point before myself. We do not know whether or not Obama will have the interests of Blacks closer to heart, something that may lead to greater hostility against whites during his reign.

        "I wonder if they are nervous walking down the street, and they see a couple of black boys dressed in baggy clothes with their hats on backwards swaggering toward them. I wonder how they feel" L.

        Exactly, I can ascertain that i myself feel nervous when walking near such hoodlums. Their flashy gang symbolism, terrible taste and manner of wearing clothing along with their duck-like walk is an assault on the mind and senses. The mental anguish reaches a high point when such hoodlums open their mouths and utter a semi-coherent stream of grammar aversive slang laced with profanity. ]

        "Many young white men are wearing the same type of clothes, listening to the same type of music (White kids like ganster rap and hip-hop as well) research how man white kids like and buy the genre of music, they speak the same slang, and have adopted some of the same mannerisms." Who knows you may have a distant or close relative that support the hip-hop generation.  What happened in your childhood? did some young black kid clean your clock (eubonics for kicked ass), take your lunch money or your girlfriend?  Please help us understand the root of your hatred.'"

        "On the subject of whether or not he will cater to blacks and forget your interest is something that I did not spend much time thinking about. Obama message  is about hope unlike the republican message of racial divisive politics and fear. I am sure that a RACIST such as you could never see past your own self-hatred.  Please seek help.

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        • Author by clewill (March 22, 2008 12:42 pm ET)
             

          The post made earlier was directed to the

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

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        • Author by finarfin (March 22, 2008 3:50 pm ET)
             
          Clewill,

           It is unfortunate but true, many white boys have indeed been brainwashed into believing that acting like a hoodlum is "cool." They listen to the destructive music and speak the grammar aversive slang of the Black hoodlum. The hip-pop culture i believe is destroying our youth, they take as role models the scum of the earth and ape (pun unintended) their ways. 

          I do have young relatives who have not yet realized this, and engage in listening and acting like those degenerates. 

          It gives me some peace however, that i know eventually most of these kids will mature and realize their folly. I myslef realized the evil and irresponsibility of these degenerates at a young age. It was not any pathetic black hoodlum who "kicked my ass", nor stole my white girlfriend, rather it was a realization and racial awareness that came with intellectual maturation. 

          B. Hussein's  message is not that original, no matter how he tries to convince you of this. His message of "hope" and "change" is an old song, this is why predominantly youngsters are fooled into believing this message.

          And actually, Hussein's message has been getting increasingly more race-based with the light being shed on his pastor and the resurgance of H.R.Clinton. 

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          • Author by funnymanpants (March 22, 2008 5:21 pm ET)
               

            Finarfin wrat:

            >>It gives me some peace however, that i know eventually most of these kids will mature and realize their folly. I myslef realized the evil and irresponsibility of these degenerates at a young age. It was not any pathetic black hoodlum who "kicked my ass", nor stole my white girlfriend, rather it was a realization and racial awareness that came with intellectual maturation. 

            Finarfin is a Neo-Nazi. Please note this when responding to him.

            ***

            Well clevantine, A saying that has just nascented (by my design) from the white nationalist movement is; we are here, we are strong, we shall prevail.

            * - finarfin / Saturday March 1, 2008 9:17:42 PM EST

            You my friend seem to be one of those who think that the right wing is of a McCain type model. You are wrong, your outrage at savages "hate speech" is nothing more than a reflexive regurgitation of the liberal propaganda fed to you since childhood. I think that those days of white dominion were grand old times, its what could be the golden age of white civilization.

             * - finarfin / Tuesday February 5, 2008 1:23:49 AM EST

            John i salute you for defending conservative America along with men like Savage. I see and it pains me greatly that Europe has gone the way of authoritarian oppressive democracies draped in the burqa of equality. The cradle of civilization has been lost to the radical progressive Utopians and we can now see their ilk spouting socialism on the democratic side. But there is hope, the nationalist hard-right is re surging in Europe in the face of the injustice dealt upon it's people, it may be a bloody political change yet no less weak a movement would be able to overtake the deeply rooted progressive liberalism.

            * - finarfin / Tuesday February 5, 2008 1:18:18 AM EST

            Well, inter racial mairrages are indeed an abomination, and equal segregation would be beneficial for all parties involved.

            * - finarfin / Thursday January 24, 2008 10:55:44 AM EST

            For there are liberals i know, who like me believe that for whatever reason the black race is on average lower in intellectual performance levels than whites or Asians. Does this make them supremacists?  technically it does, and so even if such a thing where proved, it would be denied by society. For it is similar to the reluctance of people to accept that the earth was round, even though there was evidence that it indeed was.

            - finarfin / Friday January 25, 2008 5:59:33 PM EST


            Nonetheless t'was about states rights. Slavery is in fact just a base economic method, but a viable method nonetheless. Do not make southerners out to be some unlearned bunch of crackers, You know the negro likewise inhabits this region. Are you saying that ALL southerners including black folks are stoopid??

            * - finarfin / Monday January 21, 2008 1:22:45 AM EST

            August heat, a part black person is considered Black because 1. they
            most likely look "black" because of the genetic dominance of dark
            pigments, 2. IT is very likely that they themselves consider
            themselves "black" (perhaps because they resemble other Negroids).

            He was raised by white guardians, and to this i attribute his cultured
            mannerisms that resemble those of the "white devil."  He is as a
            'typical black person' might say; a "white man's Negro."

            * - finarfin / Saturday March 22, 2008 2:26:47 PM EDT
             

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          • Author by solon (March 22, 2008 5:42 pm ET)
               

            YOUR message is unremitting stupidity and racist moronity. PLEASE do not pollute our gene pool with your ignorance. I am begging you not to breed. The world is too fine a place for ignorance of your caliber to waste our precious oxygen. Your stupidity should be studied in an instutition for the congenitally ignorant. Nothing you have to say is worth the waste of life it takes to read.

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      • Author by funnymanpants (March 22, 2008 5:15 pm ET)
           

        Finarfin wrat:

        >>Exactly, I can ascertain that i myself feel nervous when walking near such hoodlums. Their flashy gang symbolism, terrible taste and manner of wearing clothing along with their duck-like walk is an assault on the mind and senses. The mental anguish reaches a high point when such hoodlums open their mouths and utter a semi-coherent stream of grammar aversive slang laced with profanity.

        This is the stuff of Neo-Nazis, of which Finarfin is one. (There is no such thing as semi-coherent ... grammar in linguistics.) 

        ***

        Well clevantine, A saying that has just nascented (by my design) from the white nationalist movement is; we are here, we are strong, we shall prevail.

        * - finarfin / Saturday March 1, 2008 9:17:42 PM EST

        You my friend seem to be one of those who think that the right wing is of a McCain type model. You are wrong, your outrage at savages "hate speech" is nothing more than a reflexive regurgitation of the liberal propaganda fed to you since childhood. I think that those days of white dominion were grand old times, its what could be the golden age of white civilization.

         * - finarfin / Tuesday February 5, 2008 1:23:49 AM EST

        John i salute you for defending conservative America along with men like Savage. I see and it pains me greatly that Europe has gone the way of authoritarian oppressive democracies draped in the burqa of equality. The cradle of civilization has been lost to the radical progressive Utopians and we can now see their ilk spouting socialism on the democratic side. But there is hope, the nationalist hard-right is re surging in Europe in the face of the injustice dealt upon it's people, it may be a bloody political change yet no less weak a movement would be able to overtake the deeply rooted progressive liberalism.

        * - finarfin / Tuesday February 5, 2008 1:18:18 AM EST

        Well, inter racial mairrages are indeed an abomination, and equal segregation would be beneficial for all parties involved.

        * - finarfin / Thursday January 24, 2008 10:55:44 AM EST

        For there are liberals i know, who like me believe that for whatever reason the black race is on average lower in intellectual performance levels than whites or Asians. Does this make them supremacists?  technically it does, and so even if such a thing where proved, it would be denied by society. For it is similar to the reluctance of people to accept that the earth was round, even though there was evidence that it indeed was.

        - finarfin / Friday January 25, 2008 5:59:33 PM EST


        Nonetheless t'was about states rights. Slavery is in fact just a base economic method, but a viable method nonetheless. Do not make southerners out to be some unlearned bunch of crackers, You know the negro likewise inhabits this region. Are you saying that ALL southerners including black folks are stoopid??

        * - finarfin / Monday January 21, 2008 1:22:45 AM EST
         

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      • Author by heru (March 23, 2008 10:32 pm ET)
           

        Finny reveals his fear of being raped by a Black teenager wearing low rider jeans and a baseball cap.  [excuse me while I vomit] 

        No wonder Finny got mad at Obama for pointing out that fear of Black men is a typical white attitude. There is nothing typical about a grown white man fearing homosexual rape by a Black teenager.

        --------------------------------------------------

         

        Believe me, they make a point of not disguising their revolting "styles". And yes i agree, "them hoodlums" have an eye out for "submissives", otherwise seen as future rape victims.

        They also know that they should not mess with certain people. 

         

        • - finarfin
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    • Author by pbg (March 22, 2008 2:27 am ET)
         
      "I wonder if they are nervous walking down the street, and they see a couple of black boys dressed in baggy clothes with their hats on backwards swaggering toward them. I wonder how they feel"

      Black boys.

      If I see black BOYS swaggering towards me in baggy clothes and with their hats on backwards, I'd probably reach down to give them a handshake. I probably know their parents.

      I'm not scared of BOYS. (nor of white BOYS who dress exactly the same.)

      I'd be scared of BOYS if I hadn't gotten out of the habit of calling full-grown African-American men BOYS 'round about 1966.
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      • Author by finarfin (March 22, 2008 4:04 pm ET)
           

        "If I see black BOYS swaggering towards me in baggy clothes and with their hats on backwards, I'd probably reach down to give them a handshake. I probably know their parents."

        PBG, You will reach down to give them a handshake, and they will revert to some ritualistic acceptance dance that involves much inane hand motions and  grunting. This will eventually lead to you being locked in some insane perversion of the handshake with said hoodlum.

        Do you make a point of knowing all of the dysfunctional black families in the neighborhood?? These boys grew up abused and ignored so upon reaching adolescence they join gangs that provide them the illusion of family.  

        "I'm not scared of BOYS. (nor of white BOYS who dress exactly the same.)"

        I pity any white boy who would degrade himself to such a level.

        "I'd be scared of BOYS if I hadn't gotten out of the habit of calling full-grown African-American men BOYS 'round about 1966."

        Exactly!!  Why are "full-grown African-American men" still acting like pubescent boys in need of a father figure?? Why do they still act like their mental age is that of adolescents when they have he bodies of full grown adults?? 

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        • Author by funnymanpants (March 22, 2008 5:25 pm ET)
             

          Finarfin wrat:

          >>PBG, You will reach down to give them a handshake, and they will revert to some ritualistic acceptance dance that involves much inane hand motions and  grunting. This will eventually lead to you being locked in some insane perversion of the handshake with said hoodlum.


          But Fin is a real, no-kidding Neo-Nazi:

          ***

          Well clevantine, A saying that has just nascented (by my design) from the white nationalist movement is; we are here, we are strong, we shall prevail.

          * - finarfin / Saturday March 1, 2008 9:17:42 PM EST

          You my friend seem to be one of those who think that the right wing is of a McCain type model. You are wrong, your outrage at savages "hate speech" is nothing more than a reflexive regurgitation of the liberal propaganda fed to you since childhood. I think that those days of white dominion were grand old times, its what could be the golden age of white civilization.

           * - finarfin / Tuesday February 5, 2008 1:23:49 AM EST

          John i salute you for defending conservative America along with men like Savage. I see and it pains me greatly that Europe has gone the way of authoritarian oppressive democracies draped in the burqa of equality. The cradle of civilization has been lost to the radical progressive Utopians and we can now see their ilk spouting socialism on the democratic side. But there is hope, the nationalist hard-right is re surging in Europe in the face of the injustice dealt upon it's people, it may be a bloody political change yet no less weak a movement would be able to overtake the deeply rooted progressive liberalism.

          * - finarfin / Tuesday February 5, 2008 1:18:18 AM EST

          Well, inter racial mairrages are indeed an abomination, and equal segregation would be beneficial for all parties involved.

          * - finarfin / Thursday January 24, 2008 10:55:44 AM EST

          For there are liberals i know, who like me believe that for whatever reason the black race is on average lower in intellectual performance levels than whites or Asians. Does this make them supremacists?  technically it does, and so even if such a thing where proved, it would be denied by society. For it is similar to the reluctance of people to accept that the earth was round, even though there was evidence that it indeed was.

          - finarfin / Friday January 25, 2008 5:59:33 PM EST


          Nonetheless t'was about states rights. Slavery is in fact just a base economic method, but a viable method nonetheless. Do not make southerners out to be some unlearned bunch of crackers, You know the negro likewise inhabits this region. Are you saying that ALL southerners including black folks are stoopid??

          * - finarfin / Monday January 21, 2008 1:22:45 AM EST

          August heat, a part black person is considered Black because 1. they
          most likely look "black" because of the genetic dominance of dark
          pigments, 2. IT is very likely that they themselves consider
          themselves "black" (perhaps because they resemble other Negroids).

          He was raised by white guardians, and to this i attribute his cultured
          mannerisms that resemble those of the "white devil."  He is as a
          'typical black person' might say; a "white man's Negro."

          * - finarfin / Saturday March 22, 2008 2:26:47 PM EDT
           

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        • Author by solon (March 22, 2008 5:45 pm ET)
             

          I pity anyone who would actually have to share space with you. To be in your putrid presence would be an excruciating experience in disgust. I cannot comprehend how anyone could be as ignorant as you are.

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    • Author by right-winger (March 22, 2008 8:07 am ET)
         
      HEY RUSH YOUR PARTY DISOWNED YOU AND THREW YOU UNDER THE BUS WHEN YOU WENT AFTER MCCAIN!!! AND ALL YOU SO CALLED RIGHT-WINGERS YOU DISOWNED AND THREW RUSH UNDER THE BUS FOR MCCAIN A PERSON WHO YOU SAY IS NOT AN REAL REPUBLICAN. BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO WIN THE IN NOV. SO BAD YOU TURNED ON RUSH.  NOW LOOK AT RUSH  KISSING UP TOO MCCAIN NOW BECAUSE HE KNOWS MCCAIN CAN WIN. SO IF OBAMA DISOWNED HIS WHITE HALF RUSH YOUR PARTY DISOWNED YOU FOR A WHILE TOO.
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    • Author by right-winger (March 22, 2008 8:07 am ET)
         
      HEY RUSH YOUR PARTY DISOWNED YOU AND THREW YOU UNDER THE BUS WHEN YOU WENT AFTER MCCAIN!!! AND ALL YOU SO CALLED RIGHT-WINGERS YOU DISOWNED AND THREW RUSH UNDER THE BUS FOR MCCAIN A PERSON WHO YOU SAY IS NOT AN REAL REPUBLICAN. BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO WIN THE IN NOV. SO BAD YOU TURNED ON RUSH.  NOW LOOK AT RUSH  KISSING UP TOO MCCAIN NOW BECAUSE HE KNOWS MCCAIN CAN WIN. SO IF OBAMA DISOWNED HIS WHITE HALF RUSH YOUR PARTY DISOWNED YOU FOR A WHILE TOO.
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    • Author by watadoo (March 22, 2008 11:01 am ET)
         
      Those posts hurt my eyes.
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    • Author by JimmyCraghorn (March 22, 2008 1:08 pm ET)
         
      I think all this controversy about Obama's grandmother, is just a speed bump on the road to him being elected our next president.
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      • Author by finarfin (March 22, 2008 1:52 pm ET)
           
        I'm glad you're so optimistic, you're heading for a huge disappointment.
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    • Author by fawltylogic (March 22, 2008 3:18 pm ET)
         
      I guess we should thank Rush for showing that these "race wounds" still need opening.
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    • Author by renata856 (March 23, 2008 1:10 pm ET)
         
      There is an entire Republican/Conservative/Think Tank/MEDIA industrial complex that a) must continually instigate/manipulate diviseness, b) not only thrives on this reaction to the Civil/Women's Rights era of the 60s -- but, c) IT IS VERY PROFITABLE TO DO SO.  Until we break the back of this hegemony by NOT listening to this, NOT voting for politicians or so-called churches who associate with or propagate it in ANY way -- the Nation will continue its BACKWARD trendlines in areas that competitors such as China, India and Europe -- are challenging America in. THEY invest in their infrastructures, education of their children, universal healthcare, etc. The Rush/Pat Buchanan/Fox News DISTRACTION has completely repositioned the American zeitgist and value system since Ronald Reagan's "Morning in America."  Ironically, those who have been harmed the worst, CONTINUALLY TO VOTE FOR AND LISTEN TO THIS DESTRUCTIVE AND DIVISIVE PROPAGANDA, w/out critically looking at our current circumstances and the desperate need for CHANGE. It is THEIR blue collar jobs that are being shipped overseas. It is their children who are overrepresented in the military. It is their suburban/rural mortgage crisis. It is their way of life that has been eroded. It is their children who will fall further behind and it is time for them to VOTE their interests, intelligently and turn Rush's rantings OFF. Turn the page.
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    • Author by renata856 (March 23, 2008 1:13 pm ET)
         
      Rush is an addict. Turn the page.
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    • Author by ddsharper (March 24, 2008 7:01 am ET)
         

      "It is clear that Senator Obama has disowned his white half, that he's decided he's got to go all in on the black side."  What does that mean to an educated mind? This who thing is sick. As for the goodies, AJW, I probably pay more in taxes than you make. BTW, blacks and hispanics don't argue about whose the official minority. That's a lie. You people are all racist and what's sad, won't admit it, which makes you evil. At least the KKK comes KKKlean.

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    • Author by eniobob2631 (March 24, 2008 7:37 am ET)
         

      What I don't get is,in the work place.If you have someone with a hint of drug abuse or sexual harrassment in there resume,they are toast.

       

      But here you have two guys with that stinch on them,Limbaugh and O'reilly and these guys or able to speak their minds to people everyday.Amazing.

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