Limbaugh on Richardson's endorsement: "The lesson for you superdelegates is that you can vote against Hillary Clinton, and for at least four days, you can survive"
SUMMARY: On his nationally syndicated radio show, Rush Limbaugh suggested that Sen. Hillary Clinton and former President Bill Clinton would react violently to New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson's endorsement of Sen. Barack Obama, stating: "Governor Richardson is alive and well. ... The lesson for you superdelegates is that you can vote against Hillary Clinton, and for at least four days, you can survive."
During the March 24 edition of his nationally syndicated radio show, while discussing New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson's endorsement of Sen. Barack Obama for president, Rush Limbaugh announced: "[C]onsider this sort of a shout-out, a PSA to those of you Democrat [sic] superdelegates out there, think of this as a PSA: Governor Richardson is alive and well." Then, suggesting that Sen. Hillary Clinton and former President Bill Clinton would react violently to Richardson's endorsement, Limbaugh asserted:
LIMBAUGH: I repeat: Governor Bill Richardson -- I just saw him on TV -- I know that Governor Bill Richardson is still alive and well four days after an act of what I think was pure betrayal. The Clintons made Bill Richardson who he is, they enabled him to become governor of New Mexico, two cabinet posts, and he betrays them. And yet, four days after this betrayal, and this is a specific note to you superdelegates out there of which Bill Richardson is one, he is still alive. He has survived the weekend. Bill Richardson, I repeat, after an act of betrayal against the Clintons, is hale and hearty. He still has the beard. The lesson for you superdelegates is that you can vote against Hillary Clinton, and for at least four days, you can survive.
Limbaugh has frequently suggested that the Clintons respond violently, even murderously, to those with whom they disagree, the media, and others. Additionally, Limbaugh has frequently suggested that the Clintons murdered White House counsel Vince Foster. In fact, Foster committed suicide on July 20, 1993, at Fort Marcy Park in Northern Virginia.
From the March 24 edition of Premiere Radio Networks' The Rush Limbaugh Show:
LIMBAUGH: By the way, as you know, ladies and gentleman, last week Bill Richardson came off his vacation, not early -- he came off his vacation to endorse Barack Obama for president of the United States. What day was that, Friday? It was Friday. What day is today? Today is Monday. So Friday, Saturday, Sunday -- it's been four days. And by the -- consider this sort of a shout-out, a PSA to those of you Democrat [sic] superdelegates out there, think of this as a PSA: Governor Richardson is alive and well. I repeat: Governor Bill Richardson -- I just saw him on TV -- I know that Governor Bill Richardson is still alive and well four days after an act of what I think was pure betrayal. The Clintons made Bill Richardson who he is, they enabled him to become governor of New Mexico, two cabinet posts, and he betrays them. And yet, four days after this betrayal, and this is a specific note to you superdelegates out there of which Bill Richardson is one, he is still alive. He has survived the weekend. Bill Richardson, I repeat, after an act of betrayal against the Clintons, is hale and hearty. He still has the beard. The lesson for you superdelegates is that you can vote against Hillary Clinton, and for at least four days, you can survive.
Now, I mean, what does this all add up to? Well, what has the media action line been from the early and mid '90s on? Is that Bill Clinton is such a great politician -- our greatest, greatest politician. But Bill Clinton couldn't even get his own protege to vote for his own wife. Talking about Bill Richardson here. And in case the drive-bys didn't get it, he couldn't even get Richardson to not vote for his wife's opponent.
Oh, folks, Operation Chaos is just full speed ahead. No, I'm not leaving Clinton's camp. The point is here, Bill Clinton can't save her. It's up to us, is the point. Clinton can't save her, Richardson's hale and hearty -- he's walking around, he's strutting around, still sporting the beard that he grew on vacation when he was down there somewhere in the Caribbean. It's been four days.
I want to see the first Hillary supporter with the ethics to step up and denounce what Carville did by calling Richardson Judas
Not everyone at once now
Just denounce, you don't even need to reject ; )
Ed,
There will be some who will say yes the Clinton's wanted Richardson's endorsement but Hillary will prevail without it and there will be others who will deny the Clintons desire for Richardson's endorsement (forgetting the Super Bowl picture) and say it doesn't matter. I will wait with you for those who say Carville was so freaking out of line that both he and the Clinton should be ashamed.
It's true the Clinton's gave Bill Richardson his break on the national stage but he did the job! So while they opened the door (like Affirmative Action does), HE DID THE JOB! Do the Clinton now want to take credit for Bill Richardson doing his job?
How the world changes Pearl and how it stays the same
I am disgusted with the campaign Hillary has run and I refuse to hold my nose and pull the lever for her
Wright hype by damned, I think Obama is still going to pull this off and change will have a chance, McCain wants no part of that wave
"still sporting the beard that he grew on vacation when he was down there somewhere in the Caribbean."
Oh Rush....... having flashbacks are we?
Step right up
No pushing, no shoving
Agreed, Limpaugh is fat piece of human filth
And Richardson is no Judas, Hillary should ask Carville to leave the campaign
Limbaugh still has not come clean about his arrest in t he company of a male prostitute in the '70s, when he was working for a Pittsburgh radio station under the name "Jeff Christie".
C'mon, Rush - I know that either you or someone in your organization monitors MMFA. The truth shall set you free, and the dittoheads have a right to know about your double life.
Carville is a poopy head!
Can we move along Eden?
To what?
To McCain running an ad, maybe flashing a picture of Richardson with Obama and adding audio of Carville, a Democratic strategist calling him Judas
How far is too far for you?
And will you apply that same length to the Neocon nutsacks that are killing our kids, destroying the middle class and erasing our rights ?
Whats your pound of flesh? How much pain and self disgust do I have to experience? How many possibly decieved people do I have to declare evil and beyond the pale? Must I be reduced to a personality that only sees the black and white. How am I then different from a neo con? Is it because unlike them, I know the truth, so the resultant pain and suffering is all for a good cause?
No Sale!
To coment on the media. I'm still a fed gov worker for 6 more days, I don't politic for candidates. Doing so is not what I come here to see.
Ego I suppose there is no conversation to be had with you. Ta ta.
i said i did not like carville's comments. but i don't see what some ad of richardson with obama, and carville calling him judas, is going to mean to voters this fall, other than having them scratch their heads. what mccain might show is pictures of obama and tony rezko, now on trial. obama said rezko did not do him any favors. actually the house that obama bought had been on one piece of property, and the sellers split it up, leaving the house with a very small side yard. so obama brought rezko in on the deal, and rezko bought the lot. obama did pay for the strip of land, but rezko paid for a 14,000 dollar fence to split the two properties. and all this was going on while rezko was under investigation, a fact obama admits. that might appear in an ad, and it's better to discuss it now. [and matt lauer went on his usual hillary attack fest on the today show this morning.]
Regardless of anything what Carville said is out of bounds
And do you really want to bring up shady land deals or anything shady for that matter when you are endorsing the Clintons ?
And do you really want to bring up shady land deals or anything shady for that matter when you are endorsing the Clintons ?
Yes. Seventy million dollars worth of investigations, and all they could find were a few BJ's.
They lost money on the "land deal," in case you forgot about or couldn't understand the Pillsbury Report.
Everything else was lies, exactly of the type you are implying here.
Ten years later, you haven't learned a thing, and probably never will.
WOW EASY
You just post without reading, in no way do I infer that there are any skeletons in the Clinton closet, as far as I know they are clean as any other dirty politician. What I'm saying is that if Hill wants to drag the discourse down to that level against Obama in her scorched Earth strategy then she is opening Pandora's box as far as the MSM goes. Its just a subject she'd do better to avoid.
That said the thread is about how Clinton did Richardson dirty through her unapologetic subjugate Carville and she's not apologizing either although Wolfson sort of is.
So was it a warning to other superdelegates? All or nothing ? And if not then why throw Richardson under the bus like that ?
See, it might be EASY TO REFUTE WINGNUTS, BUT ITS HARD TO SEE THE TRUTH...I've been a Democrat my whole life and I am a US citizen and I will godddamned if this party is going down the same road as the Republicans while we all sit silent and let it happen.
But thanks for stopping by
What part of
You just post without reading, in no way do I infer that there are any skeletons in the Clinton closet, as far as I know they are clean as any other dirty politician. What I'm saying is that if Hill wants to drag the discourse down to that level against Obama in her scorched Earth strategy then she is opening Pandora's box as far as the MSM goes. Its just a subject she'd do better to avoid.
Is unclear ?
Obama was running a clean campaign and all was quiet until Hill started to lose, then the negatives started flying...so far she is has been willing to have an ally called Judas and all I'm saying is if she goes the Rezko route the MSM will reair every bit of the Clinton era and it won't matter if its not true...it'll be what people are talking about
Whitewater, obviously.
Again, note well, I don't belive that dog hunts, that does not mean I think the MSM won't wall to wall it anyway if Rezko is the next slip down the muddy campaign for the Queen.
And I qoute EasyWayOut "Ten years later, you haven't learned a thing, and probably never will.
Now ME, I took that tired cat to the woodshed for questioning my competency, and the fact that he hadn't read my post because it is tortured logic to think I was suggesting the Clinton's were dirty...I said they were clean as far as I know, sheesh
Now please, tell me you're knocking on MY door with something better than this...I've made many unrefuted points
He responded blindly
I said they were clean, its an exact qoute
Hell, I even said as far as I know
Anything to say about the point ? Dirty Campaigns ? Hill saying who her pastor would not be ? How see mispoke on snipers ? How Carville called fellow Dem Richardson Judas ?
Regardless of anything what Carville said is out of bounds
And do you really want to bring up shady land deals or anything shady for that matter when you are endorsing the Clintons ?
And do you really want to bring up shady land deals or anything shady for that matter when you are endorsing the Clintons ?
Yes. Seventy million dollars worth of investigations, and all they could find were a few BJ's.
They lost money on the "land deal," in case you forgot about or couldn't understand the Pillsbury Report.
Everything else was lies, exactly of the type you are implying here.
Ten years later, you haven't learned a thing, and probably never will.
So I got a little threaded, the point still stands, I was accused of something as opposed to being asked for clarification..besides why answer YES, that makes no sense unless you approve of the Hillary scorched Earth campaign style in which case my further posts answer to that
Again, are you enjoying the dirty politics?
But people don't...then they take one snippet, which is a response to something else and then they spout off without reading your previous posts that provide the context
Not that it prevents you from defending them anyway, but if you're gonna wear that cape and those tights I guess you might as well do something ME
Not exactly,
initially I was replying under the impression that it was you after reading the look up to my response to Easy...since you had more material to work with than Easy since he hadn't seen my reply I expanded the conversation, thus threaded after ad naseum replies about semantical parts of my argument as opposed to the many points on dirty politics you have yet to refute.
Wait!
No, I got it...I misspoke ?
Can't hold that against me ; )
Well
I got it right in the book, I misspoke once in 12 years and I do say millions of words...
You're right. Eden's been on this board trashing Hillary for at least a month (if not more). He's got nothing better to do. I agree that Hillary's campaign hasn't been the cleanest, but damn, this is politics and as such, it's sometimes dirty. Obama is a good candidate. Hillary is a good candidate. IMO, either would be a fantastic president, especially considering the alternative. There shouldn't be figthing between members of the Democratic Party - especially to the point that Eden's taken it - to the level of black and white (and no, I don't mean racial). It seems as though Eden's saying that if you vote for Hillary, you're not looking for change, you're not a real Democrat and that you're looking for a continuation of the current policies.
Eden, you're sometimes worse than the right-wing media. Your rants aside, people have the right to vote for whomever they want. If you choose not to vote for Hillary (if she's the nominee), then you're the one who doesn't want change (as imho, a vote not cast for the Democratic nominee is the same as a vote cast for McCain.). God knows I've held my nose and voted for a candidate that I didn't really support (Kerry), but I knew him to be infinitely better than the alternative. Your refusal to pull the lever for Hillary (if she were to get the nomination) because you don't like her campaign is your business. My point is this: Hillary is better than McCain. We disagree who is better between Hillary and Barack. That matter will be settled in late summer. You've already decided who to vote for in the general election before the nominee is decided. You're a hypocrite.
COMMON
That about sums you up. I've got a sense you're not as Liberal as you say, that or you're just a lazy one. By election time we will have eight year olds in our midst that grew up post War on Terror. Kids reared on a healthy diet of jingoism and Fox style news that never knew habeus corpus because it never existed in their time.
Yes, I think if we follow the GOP into the slime we may be able to scare the public into voting Hillary. We can attack Obama because he is only where he is because he is black. We can send people on TV and talk about Hussein and Cocaine and then fire them the next day. We can talk about how Al Qaeda is watching this election. We can run 3am ads. We can have surrogates reminding the public that Barack only wins where the black folk are. We can acknowledge the opposition candidates credentials over or rivals. Hey, its all politics right? Who cares?
Then we can harangue Obama over his pastor, and assail a friend that happened to endorse him as Judas
After the Obama wave has crashed we can attack McCain's age, his divorce, his possible affair, his mental health and his non white kid. We can win, but then who the F are we???
You call me Troll because I hold my fellow Liberals to the same standard I hold these filthy neocons? Meanwhile you have the support of Carlil and his fellow trolls that want us to attack each other as the primary drags on and on and on.
Yep, you're pretty Common, but you made no sense and if this is where you want us to go then you're no Liberal either
Here is an important update on the need for us to consider only what the candidates have to say themselves and the verasity of those statements:
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/speech/view/?id=6553
as opposed to this type of garbage:
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/03/hillarys_balkan_adventures_par.html
Ah...this is called SATIRE...Kind of what Al Franken gets away with. Of course, this is much funnier since there is a kernel of truth to it.
Not to mention the numerous examples of death wishes that leftists offer for Bush, Cheney and other Republicans. That's OK of course since the folks spewing that hate are fellow COMRADES fighting the capitalist pigs
He wasn't just talking about Foster. He was talking about all the people that were killed. Look up all the associates that were killed mysteriously. Of course there is no proof, but just suspecious events. Suspecion is what makes this a great nation, so don't just blindly believe what is told to you.
Quite correct: IMPOSSIBLE to find any truth on this site. The handle I've chosen is, in itself, SATIRE. But I would not expect that to register on the dim bulb between your ears
No your name would be ironic. Since you are too stupid to recognize the truth if it ran you over with a lawnmower.
Now Now
You two know the rules
One Bridge One Troll
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Somebody dial 9 1 and we'll wait and see what happens next, its a Troll invasion
Could we at least request a few with some more current propaganda? Nothing more boring than outdated trolls.
And my own PSA: once again, an explanation of humor for conservatives- it doesn't start with a "kernel" of truth, but a big ol' solid foundation of truth. While there may be some things that are true coming out of the Oxymoron's mouth (ex: Bill Richardson is alive) he has failed at working any of these things into the joke, and instead has relied on long-debunked rumors that only the simplest of dittoheads believe.
But he knows his audience..
What does dialing 9 1 do?
Answer: Not a damn thing. It makes as much sense as the troll posts Eden has been making for a while now.
Another drive by ? Looks like I have a groupie
Take is easy wingnut, you were wrong the first time
You aren't right now either
Trolls? Is name-calling the best you folks can do??
Oxymoron?? Is that a play on words?
You must have something better than that.
Just enforcing the rules
One Bridge One Troll
Stress tests, don'cha know
And what truth do you seek today?
THIS IS NOT A FORUM. IT IS A PLACE TO MAKE COMMENTS ON THE ARTICLES. GO ENFORCE SOME RULES WHERE THEY APPLY AND STOP TRYING TO PONTIFICATE ALL OVER THE PLACE.
I DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO WASTE ON COMMENTING ANY MORE SO DON'T BOTHER TO RESPOND BECAUSE I WILL NOT RETURN TO THIS STORY.
SOLON: You state: "YOU are a real piece of work. You WHINE about name calling yet defend Limbaugh dishonestly keeping the whole Vince Foster was killed by the Clintons LIE going. So its ok to lie shamelessly and without decency if you are a conservative but its just so mean for liberals to call you a troll? Get real."
I'm really not whining about being called a name I'm just wondering why you folks resort to it.
Just some general observations abaout Rush Limbaugh...
I've heard Limbaugh expound many times on how miserable liberals are...that liberals are basically unhappy people. Then it occurred to me how miserable Rush Limbaugh's existence must be. How would like to have a job that required you to rant non-stop for several hours a day with the most negative, vitriolic condemnation of another set of people? People who are your own neighbors and fellow countrymen. Limbaugh's entire show every single day is a paranoid stream of consciousness soliloquy that blames liberals for every ill that has ever befallen mankind. How corrosive must Limbaugh's daily condemnation exercise be to his own psyche? How rancid is this man's soul? If he has a soul...
Irony...
Be honest. How many times have you listend to Rush? How many hands do I need to count that...one? two?
If you find it an endless rant then you obviously haven't listened often.
IRONY...when you state this in your original post:
<i>How would like to have a job that required you to rant non-stop for several hours a day with the most negative, vitriolic condemnation of another set of people?</i>
It does smack of ignorance because while rants do comprise his show at times, the show as a whole is not close to how you describe. It may be that you agree more with those he criticizes and therefore hear it differently than I do.
My point, which you apparently missed, is that Limbaugh's show, every single day, is a continuous condemnation of liberals and Democrats. His show is characterized by it's non-stop negativity. What kind of effect must this have on the conveyor of such constant negative thoughts...day after day, year after year? What kind of person is capable of such non-stop negativity?
Quibble if you want over what constitutes a rant...but it doesn't take a shrink to recognize someone whose mental health is probably not in tip-top shape. IMO Limbaugh is probably a miserable person...that comes across to me listening to him as often as I do.
TS, I can't think of anything he does other than anti-non-right-winger ranting---as Irony described. He next to never has a guest on---as he has explained on the air "why should I promote anyone other than myself". Sean Hannity at least interviews people. Michael Savage will regularly bash Republicans (after he's made his bones on the liberals/gays /Dems/etc.). Whether you agree with him or not Limbaugh’s show is still very ranty. The best part is when he seems to be giving us at the beginning of the show his most pressing thoughts. He does take calls to give mini rants during and afterwards. And there is an occasional newsclip or news story he’ll read which he’ll then springboard off of into another rant. He’s classic hate radio.
Still haven't found any truth, have you?
Well, keep seeking, although I think truth is eluding you on purpose so it doesn't get dirty when you play with it.
"Long-debunked rumors" where can I find the debunking?
Or is this just standard MM "debunking" which would go something like this:
"As Bill Clinton has stated numerous times he had nothing to do with this criminal activity..."
OK Lets start with basics
Do you believe that all the counries ills could be blamed on one political party?
Nope but Limbaugh does
And so for starters we agree he is intellectual dishonest
You are wrong. He has plenty to say against Republicans. They have disappointed him and conservatives MANY times. He was highly critical of Bush Sr. when he raised taxes in 1990 (or was it '91). He took the party to task this entire primary election season.
Again...a lot of posters here have a lot to say about Limbaugh, but there is little evidence anyone actually listens regularly.
I'll debunk the rumors.
Clinton's worst political enemies were given unlimited time, money, and power to pour over every nick and cranny of his entire life to dig up anything the least bit morally shady. Everything they found is public, and it stops well short of murders.
Now lets turn a Bush hater loose with godlike powers and see what turns up.
Offensive to the troops? How so?
To me that is another example of a satircal take on the left-wing's position. I don't see that as offensive to the troops at all.
I don't see that as offensive to the troops at all.
And, therefore, it's people like you who have made Rush Limbaugh a very rich man.
Many today say that times are different, they are not. We still hold ourselves to a higher standard than our enemies.
Any citizen that justifies or minimizes waterboarding, simulated electric shock, sleep deprivation, forced masturbation or any of the other atrocities inflicted on detainees in our prisons must also agree that our troops when captured will probably be subjected to at least, the same cruelties.
It's always someone like Limbaugh or Cheney, men who refused to serve our country who now have the biggest balls and are at the forefront of the pro-torture movement. They are cowardly men, who now tell us how our troops should behave themselves in war.
I haven't been part of this conversation, but I thought I'd weigh in. I've listened to hundreds of hours of Limbaugh. I love talk radio and don't like to restrict myself to those with whom I agree. Frankly, for a couple decades the choice was pretty much conservative talk or none.
The last five to ten years I've listened to a lot less Limbaugh. This is mostly because it became so repetitive. The same rants, the same wisecracks, the same insinuations over and over again. He became boring and tiresome. About the same time, my talk radio obtions expanded locally; therefore, I listened to less Limbaugh.
Regardless, I think I'm well qualified to offer an opinion on Limbaugh's product. It's substandard and deceitful.
I found his tirade and sketch about the NBA to ignorant and racist as well as his takes on Donovan McNabb. The NBA one was well over the line with the stereotypical "black" voice and making the NBA player sound like more than an idiot. His sketches with the "black" voices of Jesse Jackson and Sharpton is well over the line too.
He propagates the same right-wing lies over and over and over (Vince Foster, claiming Gore said he invented the internet), he avoided the draft, but smear vets who oppose the war. He claims to be a social conservative, but has no respect for the institution of marriage. The list goes on and on.
I don't listen because when I heard those first two skits and his "Barack the Magic Negro" song sung the way it was, I had enough.
Do you listen to win or place?
Stomp your foot once for yes, twice for no.
Of course it would be "satire" - if Rush weren't continually also suggesting as a fact the Clintons murdered White House counsel Vince Foster.
STEEVE,
Seems we've had Bush haters on the loose for eight long years and not much has stuck outside of POLICY disagreements which are fine.
In fact we had a major network news operation try and take him down with verifiably FORGED memos, letters and documents. Now there was something demonstrably FALSE.
There is plenty of Bush, GOP and Conservative opposition out there so bring it on.
The real reason Limbaugh and the rest of talk radio is hated by the left is that he and others take on the Left and THEIR LIES and try to point out the folly of many of their flawed policy ideas.
The real reason Limbaugh and the rest of talk radio is hated by the left is that he and others take on the Left with LIES and try to promote the folly of many of conservatives' flawed policy ideas.
There, I fixed that for you.
NO THEY WERENT. Feel free to repeat that hivemind idiocy a few dozen more times in the VAIN hope it will magically become true like some demented parrot. It doesnt ADD any credibility for you to repeat a lie. They cannot be verified but were NEVER proven forgeries. THAT IS A LIE. By the way the CLAIM they were PROVEN forgeries is YOURS. It is up to YOU to prove it is true not up to ME to prove a negative. So give it a try and dont waste my time with some rightwing opinion piece. CBS brought on the woman that DID type Killians memos and she VERIFIED THE CONTENTS. Ya got nothin but the ravings you were TOLD to believe as a loyal member of the Limborg.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200511140013
This links to the study DONE by Republican Richard Thornborough for CBS and says directly
"has not been able to conclude with absolute certainty whether the ... documents are authentic or forgeries."
I have told you guys. Just because you were TOLD to believe it on Screechmonkey radio doesnt make it true.
I am hoping and praying that Hillary tries to steal the election from Barack Hussein Obama using superdelegates. Perhaps she has photocopies of their FBI files (Filegate) and is using the informatioin to blackmail some of the superdelegates.
If Obama wins the pledged delegates and the popular votes but does not win the nomination, there will be riots. There is no way Hillary can possibly win in November without the black vote. I don't see blacks and college students turning out for Hillary in any meaningful way in November if they view the election as stolen.
This can potentially cause a schism in the Democrat party that could last 20 years. It if gets very ugly perhaps the GOP can regain the House and Senate.
My dream of destroying the Dems is actually in the process of coming to fuition. Now if only McCain names Mitt as he VP, we can work on impeaching McCain!!!!
SOLON: What is your preoccupation with calling me and others stupid simply for disagreeing with you? I really don't understand it.
If the slipper fits...Personally I suspect it's got something to do with the difference between disagreeing on matters of opinion and disagreeing on matters of fact.
And as for the examples of truth you claim to be seeking and somehow missing, try looking at the transcripts provided by MM - it's all there in black and white mate.
Right on BILLJ-MN. I couldent have said it better myself.EL FLUSHBO spews out nothing but RIGHT WING HOT AIR AND HATE.
Q - What's the difference between Rush Limbaugh and the Hindenberg?
A - One is a flaming Nazi gasbag, and the other was a dirigible that exploded in Lakehurst NJ in 1937.
:-)