Claiming McCain "is running as the most fiscally conservative" candidate, LA Times cited one bill, which Clinton also opposed
SUMMARY: A Los Angeles Times article asserted that Sen. John McCain "is running as the most fiscally conservative" presidential candidate, and specifically cited in support only McCain's "critici[sm] [of] the Medicare prescription benefit when it was created in 2003, saying that Congress and President Bush failed to provide for the long-term cost." But Sen. Hillary Clinton also opposed the bill the Times cited, saying the legislation would "start an insurance cost death spiral that will unravel Medicare's financing."
A March 26 Los Angeles Times article about the release of the 2008 report by the trustees of the Social Security and Medicare programs asserted that "[o]f the three [presidential] candidates, [Sen. John] McCain is running as the most fiscally conservative." In support, staff writer Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar specifically cited only McCain's "critici[sm] [of] the Medicare prescription benefit when it was created in 2003, saying that Congress and President Bush failed to provide for the long-term cost." In fact, Sen. Hillary Clinton also opposed the bill -- the Medicare Prescription Drug and Modernization Act of 2003 -- asserting in a November 25, 2003, statement on the Senate floor that the bill would "start an insurance cost death spiral that will unravel Medicare's financing." Alonso-Zaldivar also did not note that McCain has proposed numerous tax cuts without delineating specific revenue streams to fund them that, according to analyses by the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities (CBPP) and the Center for American Progress Action Fund, would cost trillions of dollars in lost revenues. Nor did Alonso-Zaldivar report that McCain repeatedly voted for, or supported, emergency supplemental spending bills for the Iraq war, which appropriated funds outside of the normal budgeting process and exacerbated the deficit, or that he does not support a timetable to begin withdrawing troops from Iraq.
During his presidential campaign, McCain has proposed numerous tax cuts, including making permanent the tax cuts President Bush called for in 2001 and 2003, permanently repealing the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT), and cutting the corporate tax rate, but he has not identified specific ways of funding them without exacerbating the deficit. As Media Matters for America noted, according to a February 1 analysis by the CBPP, based on Joint Committee on Taxation and Congressional Budget Office estimates, making the Bush tax cuts permanent and repealing the AMT would have a "direct cost" of $3.6 trillion over 10 years and come to an average of $400 billion in annual cost. CBPP also found that "[w]ithout offsets, making the tax cuts permanent would increase the deficit and thereby add to the national debt. The interest payments needed to service this higher level of debt would amount to about $700 billion over the next ten years." McCain also supports cutting the corporate tax rate from 35 percent to 25 percent, and allowing for the first-year "expensing" of "equipment and technology investments." According to a March 2008 analysis by the Center for American Progress Action Fund based on Congressional Budget Office and Tax Policy Center data, reducing the corporate tax rate would cost $995 billion for 2009-2018, while allowing immediate expensing would cost $745 billion over the same period.
Further, while in 2005 McCain voted for an amendment to express the sense of the Senate that "funds for a fiscal year after fiscal year 2006 for an ongoing military operation overseas, including operations in Afghanistan and Iraq, should be included in the annual budget," McCain supported emergency supplemental spending bills for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan in fiscal years 2007, 2006, 2005, 2004, and 2003. In its 2006 report, the Iraq Study Group criticized this budget procedure, asserting that it "erodes budget discipline and accountability":
The public interest is not well served by the government's preparation, presentation, and review of the budget for the war in Iraq.
First, most of the costs of the war show up not in the normal budget request but in requests for emergency supplemental appropriations. This means that funding requests are drawn up outside the normal budget process, are not offset by budgetary reductions elsewhere, and move quickly to the White House with minimal scrutiny. Bypassing the normal review erodes budget discipline and accountability.
In addition, in 2003, McCain voted to table, or kill, an amendment that would have provided "funds for the security and stabilization of Iraq by suspending a portion of the reductions in the highest income tax rate for individual taxpayers."
Additionally, unlike Clinton and Sen. Barack Obama, McCain does not support a timetable to begin withdrawing troops from Iraq. Indeed, on his campaign website, McCain states: "Ultimately, Iraq's future lies in the hands of its people, government, and armed forces, and strengthening them is an essential requirement for bringing U.S. troops home from Iraq. Until Iraqi forces are ready, however, a precipitous U.S. withdrawal would condemn Iraq to civil war and intervention by its neighbors and energize al Qaeda and other jihadists across the globe."
According to a Congressional Budget Office (CBO) analysis detailed by director Peter Orszag during his October 24, 2007, testimony before the House Committee on the Budget, the cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan is projected at $1.055 trillion for 2008-2017. The projections are based on a scenario in which "the number of personnel deployed to Iraq and other locations associated with the war on terrorism would decline ... from an average of about 200,000 in fiscal year 2008 to 75,000 by the start of fiscal year 2013 and then remain at that level through 2017." Orszag also asserted that the wars would cost $570 billion through 2017 if "the number of personnel deployed on the ground for the war on terrorism would be reduced from an average of about 200,000 in fiscal year 2008 to 30,000 by the beginning of fiscal year 2010 and then remain at that level through 2017." The CBO analysis included the cost of "military and diplomatic operations in Iraq and Afghanistan and other activities associated with the war on terrorism, as well as for related costs incurred by the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) for medical care, disability compensation, and survivors' benefits."
From Alonso-Zaldivar's March 26 Los Angeles Times article:
With the presidential campaign going full tilt, a new government report on a big national problem is usually followed by volleys of rhetoric from the candidates. But on Tuesday, when the annual report on the precarious state of Medicare and Social Security came out, the reaction was not exactly deafening.
The two programs on which millions of elderly Americans depend are apparently just too hot to handle -- especially since any realistic solution is likely to involve a politically unpalatable mix of higher taxes and lower benefits.
As a result, Sen. John McCain of Arizona, the presumed Republican presidential nominee, had little to say when the latest numbers were released projecting Medicare going into the red by 2019 and Social Security following in 2041. The Democratic contenders, Sens. Barack Obama of Illinois and Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York, also sidestepped the issue.
"Everybody knows that there are a couple of 800-pound gorillas under the rug, but nobody wants to talk about them because that is not the route to the Oval Office," said economist Robert D. Reischauer, president of the Urban Institute public policy center. "The situation is unsustainable in the long run, but the long run is in the future, and our political system operates very much in the present."
Yet baby boomers will start retiring and signing up for Medicare in 2011 -- during the next president's first term. And the program faces double jeopardy from rapidly rising healthcare costs and an aging society. Indeed, the trustees' report released Tuesday showed that Medicare spending will surpass Social Security in 2028, and grow to almost double the cost of the pension program in 2082.
Of the three candidates, McCain is running as the most fiscally conservative. He criticized the Medicare prescription benefit when it was created in 2003, saying that Congress and President Bush failed to provide for the long-term cost.
Candidate McCain has called benefit programs "unsustainable" and promised to work with Democrats to find solutions. But he has not laid out his own ideas in detail. And he certainly has not indicated a willingness to consider tax increases.
But tax increases will likely have to be part of any solution.
A president "can't take anything off the table," said David M. Walker, former head of the congressional Government Accountability Office and a leading advocate of reforming entitlements, as the benefit programs are known.
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Democrats say there is still plenty of time to prevent catastrophic disruptions to either Medicare or Social Security. Even if program trust funds become insolvent, they say, annual payroll tax receipts would still suffice to cover more than three-fourths of the costs of providing benefits.
But just as McCain steers away from the issue of taxes, Clinton and Obama avoid discussing benefit cuts. They also oppose creating private accounts in Social Security, as Bush unsuccessfully tried to do in 2005 -- with McCain's support. Obama says he would be honest with the public about hard choices on Social Security, and Clinton says the retirement program can be strengthened without hurting seniors or the middle class.















-- but he has not identified specific ways of funding them without exacerbating the deficit. -- mmfa
Liberals want more of your money...republicans want less. The federal government has plenty of money...it's the spending that is driving the deficit.
Anyone who thinks the feds spend our money wisely are free to voluntarily send more...I'll step aside to avoid the stampede.
"Republicans want to starve children and Democrats want to feed them. Such simplistic nonsense does no good for the discussion."
The first sentence is a mockery of what Wesley said. He's using it as an example of simplistic nonsense. Most of your post actually backs up what he's saying, since you're using qualifiers and conditions to describe your views.
"Liberals want more of your money...republicans want less. The federal government has plenty of money...it's the spending that is driving the deficit."--Wesley
Republicans spend more of your money now and want to pass the bill on to MY generation. Look at the last three Republican presidents. All left bigger deficits than the last. Our biggest spending projects have been the Bush wars. Bush has grown the government larger than anyone before with the Department of Homeland Security, wiretapping, etc. McCain wants to continue these policies AND cut taxes. McCain has told us there would be more wars AND he wants to cut taxes. This strategy is working effectively currently, isn't it?!
For the sake of those younger than you are, Baby Boomers, STOP VOTING THESE GUYS IN!
The last time we had a balanced budget was when a republican controlled congress drug Bill Clinton kicking and screaming to the financial restraint altar.
Having said that...am I happy with the spending binge by congress over the last seven years? Certainly not. Are higher taxes the answer? Certainly not. Are lower taxes the answer? Certainly not.
Out of control spending with no accountability has to stop...that is the answer.
SOLON: Not true. That bill, I believe was passed in Clinton's first two years when the Dems still had Congress. And it did much more than raise taxes on people making $200,000. A CBO report cited here mentions the higher marginal rates on people making far less AND those pesky tax increases on elederly Social Security recipients
http://www.ncpa.org/ba/ba134.html
After 1994 a fairly modest tax cut was passed which helped push revenues up. BUT it was the willingness of Congress and conservative appropriators to hold the line on spending. And Clinton -- to his credit -- did agree to compromise on spending cuts. Which were really a matter of limiting increases in overall spending to between 1 and 2 percent rather than the 5-10 percent we're seeing now.
The fiscally responsible Conservatives are long gone from Congress unleashing ridiculous spending levels.
One interesting thing on that link above is the fact that in Oct. of 1994..about two years into Clinton's first term, unemployment was 6.1 percent.
truthseeker...nicely said.
Additionally, mmfa fails to disclose that their two sources are both liberal think tanks...whose views are not the final word on financial matters.
Blah, blah, blah and after nearly eight years of Republican dominated fiscal conservatism we are in recession. The top 10% controls about 90% of our wealth while the bottom 70% controls about 2-5% of our wealth. I guess in Repblican math that equals keeping more of your money. Good work.
there is so much wrong with your post, it beggars the imagination. but a few points: i don't recall mccain saying there will be more wars, but undoubtedly there will be. in the immortal words of plato, only the dead have seen the end of war. so, we will have wars no matter who is president.
i don't recall mccain saying he would cut taxes, just keep them the way they are.
middleclass tax cuts are inefficient and do not raise gdp as do tax cuts for the most productive members of society.
all pau for now.
i knew, of course, you would not agree with the taxes part, but what about the war part.
btw, i don't think wiretapping has grown the government. just gives them more to do.
i don't know how much dhs has grown the gov't. not very much, as i think they just put a bunch of agencies together. i think the only new people are those tsa people at the airports. could be wrong though.
I was called by a republican fundraiser the other day. I told her I hadn't decided whether I would support McCain. He's way too liberal for me.
the one idea he has, which he enunciated in his speech today, is a league of democracies which will leave the u.n. behind and ultimately die an agonizing death. which is all it deserves.
Jesus, who would have thought these John Birchers were still around. What cranks.
Go worry about flouridation or something....
Rumple,
Here is McCain saying there will be "other wars"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZCISY40qns
Here are all the places McCain wants to cut taxes:
http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/0B8E4DB8-5B0C-459F-97EA-D7B542A78235.htm
From Ron Paul on the Department of Homeland Security:
http://www.antiwar.com/paul/paul54.html
Anything else "wrong" with my post ;)?
well, without going to youtube because it takes so long to play a little clip on my brand new computer-which is a major ripoff- whether he said there will be more wars or not is not impt. of course there will be. no avoiding it.
I'll check out the other stuff later. anyway, he's not my guy. i don't have dog in this fight, unfortunately.
i read the bit on taxes. sounds good to me. it would help to cut corporate taxes, heck they don't really pay them. we do, as they pass the costs along. we have, reportedly, the second highest corporate taxes in the world.
as for the homeland security link, but i did acknowledge i could be wrong in what i said. so, i think i'm off the hook for that.
okay, i looked at the ron paul bit. it was a bit of demagoguery, and prospective. i don't know what the truth is. but i do know earmarks cause a lot of budget problems, and both parties love them.
mccain, btw, has never had a single earmark.
Hey RUMPLE,
Would you also agree that tax increases on people in the top 1% of earners has little effect on deficits since there simply isn't enough of those taxpyers to collect the necessary money?
Nobody but dead people and babies pay zero taxes, Rump. That's just silly.
And, yes, those who make many times the average income pay many times the average income tax.I know it's infuriating, but it's true.
i don't recall mccain saying there will be more wars, but undoubtedly there will be.
Rumple,
Everything I said in my post turned out to be true and yet you thought there was so much wrong with it ;).
Here's my question for you: What recent (within the last 4-8 years) stands has McCain taken that are "too liberal" for you? Has he changed his mind on these issues or is he holding firm? Just curious as to what views he has that cause you to think this way.
Dear God conservatism has failed so utterly to implement an economy for all that it's laughable to think anybody would align themselves such a tragic worldview.
It's pathetic. Republicans have proven in abundance that it doesn't matter what stripe of conservatism they run under, the authoritarian right-wing PC police demand the same old tired, unenthusiastic chorus of overplayed pleas. From the ashes of the housing market we hear the same Ho Hum dergulated market drivel. As infrastructure crumbles and investmets in people dwindle it's the maundering, unitelligible refrain of tax mumbo jumbo or some such. Never forget that endless we gotta keep the gays from marrying drone, we'll all be shtoopin' cattle if they're allowed to marry.
And the occupation of Iraq, the missing 8 billion the countless dead civillians, state sanctioned torture the forgotten murderer somewhere in Afghanistan, maybe, who knows?
So?
We're taking our Cheneyburton money to Dubai. Real patriots there, boy!
Conservatism is yesterday's bad news. Get away go, shoo. The country is screwed now, thanks your job is done. You've proven government can't function by and for the people when rats are in charge. Buh-bye.
For what it costs to sustain one day of the Iraq ocupation we could have sent 6,883 high school graduates to four fully funded years at public universities.