On Hannity & Colmes, Rove falsely claimed Obama was not a professor
SUMMARY: On Fox News' Hannity & Colmes, Fox News analyst Karl Rove said he had a "list of exaggerations" by Sen. Barack Obama. As one purported example, Rove said that Obama claimed, " 'I was a law school professor,' " before adding: "No, you were an instructor." But Obama was in fact a professor at the University of Chicago Law School.
During the March 31 edition of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes, Fox News political analyst Karl Rove purported to cite a "list of exaggerations" by Sen. Barack Obama. Referring to Obama, Rove stated: " 'I was a law school professor.' No, you were an instructor." But, in fact, Obama -- who had the title "Senior Lecturer in Law" between 1996 and 2004 -- was listed under "Professors" on the University of Chicago Law School's faculty page at least as far back as August 24, 2000, according to the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine. By contrast, those designated as "Lecturers in Law," which Obama was between 1992 and 1996, are listed separately.
Moreover, the school recently issued the following statement:
From 1992 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004, Barack Obama served as a professor in the Law School. He was a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996. He was a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004, during which time he taught three courses per year. Senior Lecturers are considered to be members of the Law School faculty and are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure-track. The title of Senior Lecturer is distinct from the title of Lecturer, which signifies adjunct status. Like Obama, each of the Law School's Senior Lecturers has high-demand careers in politics or public service, which prevent full-time teaching. Several times during his 12 years as a professor in the Law School, Obama was invited to join the faculty in a full-time tenure-track position, but he declined.
From the March 31 edition of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes:
ROVE: I think he's [Obama's] got some real flaws. And I -- you know, I think we saw it. You know, look, the Bosnia thing was terribly damaging to her [Sen. Hillary Clinton], but think about the list of exaggerations we have for him: His, you know, "My parents got together at the Selma march and I came along as a result of it." No, you were born four years before the Selma march.
SEAN HANNITY (co-host): Yeah.
ROVE: We saw this week when he said -- a new one was unveiled this week -- he's been for, in that same Selma speech, he said, "My father came to the United States because of the generosity of the Kennedy family." Turns out the Kennedys funded the program that his father participated in after his father came here.
You know, "I'm a law school -- I was a law school professor." No, you were an instructor.
How is Rove not in prison again ?
Well, at least now he gets to keep company with more of his ilk, like Ollie North and Mark Fuhrman
I do love watching that idiot Hannity when he starts to go down his "lists", and it looks like he's building Obamas list. The demented look on Sean's mug when he starts in on these things- like with Clinton, it's "Sir Edmund Hillary","Yankees Fan",and now "Sniper Fire"(a valid one, that last one).Funny thing is, he seems completely unintersted in any of the bigger and more lethal lies coming from the Republican occupants of the White House over the last few decades
Because those are GOOD lies, Col...PRO-AMERICAN lies... proudly patriotic and vindictive... not these piffling, namby pamby vanity- stroking 'exaggerations', or lies about oral sex that those damned Democrats are so fond of telling. Republican lies are MANLY lies... the kind of lies that, when a man tells them, he gets other men killed... for the sake of the nation, of course. A REAL man isn't afraid to lie his nation into war.
Not when there's good money to be made, anyway.
As a military man, you should already know this, Col.
I'm beginning to think that you just might be chicken!
HANNITY: Boy, I'll tell you, I think all of these will make great campaign ads
Ah, nothing like a fair and balanced journalist.
But now the lie is out there, and it doesn't matter that Obama was a professor - the troglodytes now have another piece of misinformation to add to their repertoire of lies.
Nor does he really advertise himself as such.
He wasn't a professor. He wasn't an "instructor"either. He was a lecturer. Difference is-- in most schools-- "professors" are on the tenure track and they hold Ph.Ds.
MMFA is a little obtuse here....
The school's statement is right there, and you just simply ignored it.
I really hope you don't own a car because it scares me to think of someone this stupid trying to interpret traffic signs.
Looks like, at worst, Rove is one for two. Anyone want to discuss Obama's Selma experience? :-) Glad MMFA could clear that up.
If one is a professor when one is has the title of Senior Lecturer instead of Professor, it shows how silly the world has become.
Obama should have said, "I was a part-time professor" if he wanted to be accurate. I think Rove gets partial credit. :-)
So Rove's exaggerations are an exaggeration??
Glad this tub of crap is earning some income. His family will need it while he's in the hole.
Ummm, if I'm not mistaken, 'mr' Rove never finished any undergraduate work toward a degree, and I really don't think hannity did, either.
UNLESS, of course, you count the extra credit work of KKKarl and jeff gannon, or hannity's nightwork on mann coulter. give them both honorary doctorates in deviance.
As an Obama supporter I have to say that Rove's point is basically valid. A "professor" is usually a full-time, tenure track position.
Let's be honest - it is kind of exaggerated to claim that he was a real "professor". I'm not taking anything away from his status as an instructor, but anyone who has attended college knows how things work.
It would be better for Obama to stop trying to puff up his resume.
Go Obama!
According to the university in question, Obama WAS a professor. Rove was dead wrong. So are you.
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Actual statement:
Senior Lecturers are considered to be members of the Law School faculty and are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure-track.
The word is "considered to be" - This is not, in fact, a blanket statement that Obama "was" a professor. All the friends at his law school were able to come up with was they "thought of him as" and "considered him to be" a professor.
In my opinion, Obama is HYPING his resume.
Again, I think that there is nother bad about being a part timer at a law school.
Go Obama!
correction:
Again, I think that there is NOTHING bad about being a part timer at a law school.
Read your own post--he was considered to be a professor by the U of C. THEY define the position, not you. Figure this out. Criticize Obama all you like, but use FACTS.
"As a complete boob, I feel the need to continue to misrepresent both Senator Obama's positions and my support for him. Further, as a complete boob, I strongly believe George W. Bush is the best president, who has done the most to keep our Constitution whole, in the history of our nation."
Thought I'd translate your post into English, NuttySmurf.
solon:
Let's be honest, wasn't Obama trying to HYPE his resume?
(intentional irony)