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MSNBC and CNN ignored "boldest question" from student at prep school but reported extensively on students' question to Chelsea Clinton

April 02, 2008 9:13 pm ET

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SUMMARY: MSNBC and CNN reported on Sen. John McCain's visit to his high school alma mater without noting that -- in what MSNBC's First Read political blog called "[t]he boldest question" from the crowd -- a student at the school, pointing out that "political motivation isn't completely absent" even though people "were told that this isn't a political event," asked McCain "what exactly is your purpose in being" at the school. By contrast, MSNBC and CNN both extensively reported on questions posed to Chelsea Clinton about the Monica Lewinsky scandal.

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Reporting on Sen. John McCain's April 1 speech at Episcopal High School in Alexandria, Virginia, his alma mater, neither Andrea Mitchell nor Chris Jansing -- both MSNBC anchors -- noted what a post of MSNBC's First Read political blog called "[t]he boldest question" from the crowd. The First Read item, which was posted by Mark Murray and stated that it was "[f]rom NBC/N[ational] J[ournal]'s Adam Aigner-Treworgy," reported that a student named Katelyn Halldorson asked McCain: "I think judging by the amount of press representatives here and also by the integration of your previous political endorsements in your earlier personal narrative, we can see that this isn't completely absent -- er political motivation isn't completely absent. Yet we were told that this isn't a political event. So what exactly is your purpose in being here --- not that I don't appreciate the opportunity, but I'd just like some clarification." In fact, as of 9 a.m. ET on April 2, CNN and MSNBC had not noted Halldorson's question (excluding news briefs, which were not available on Nexis or CNN's transcript page and were not searched), despite giving significant coverage to students' questions to Chelsea Clinton about the Monica Lewinsky scandal.

According to Murray, McCain responded: " 'I knew I should have cut this thing off. This meeting is over,' McCain joked, before going into a long description of his biography tour and it's emphasis on 'the values and principles that guided me and I think a lot of this country in the past,' in addition to providing 'a vision of how I think we need to address the challenges of the future.' "

In contrast with Mitchell's and Jansing's failure to report the "bold question" asked of McCain -- giving rise to what Time.com Washington editor Ana Marie Cox referred to as McCain's "awkward moment" -- CNN and MSNBC anchors extensively covered and discussed the questions about Monica Lewinsky posed to Chelsea Clinton during a March 25 campaign event at Butler University and a March 31 speech at North Carolina State University. For example, during the April 1 edition of CNN's The Situation Room, CNN's Jack Cafferty reported:

CAFFERTY: For the second time in two weeks, Chelsea Clinton has been asked a question about the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Campaigning for her mother at North Carolina State University yesterday, a student brought up the scandal that led to the impeachment of her father, Bill Clinton.

The student said Chelsea should have answered the question because it happened while her father was president of the United States. But the former first daughter was having none of it, saying, quote, "It's none of your business. This is something that is very personal to my family. I'm sure there are things personal to your family that you don't think are anyone else's business, either," unquote.

Chelsea also said that she doesn't think people "should vote for or against my mother because of my father." The student yesterday defended asking Chelsea the question, saying, "I feel it is our business because he was president at the time."

In addition to Cafferty's statements during the 4 p.m. ET hour of The Situation Room, CNN reported on the questions posed to Chelsea Clinton during the 5 p.m. and 6 p.m. ET hours of The Situation Room as well as twice during the April 1 edition of American Morning. CNN also reported on the March 25 question posed to Chelsea Clinton on the March 25 editions of CNN's Anderson Cooper 360, Election Center, Larry King Live, and the 5 p.m. ET hour of The Situation Room as well as the March 26 editions of CNN's American Morning (6 a.m., 7 a.m., and 8 a.m. ET hours), the 9 a.m. and 11 a.m. ET hours of CNN Newsroom, and all three hours of The Situation Room. By contrast, CNN had not reported the question posed to McCain by the high school student as of 9 a.m. ET on April 2 (excluding news briefs, which were not searched) despite reports of his visit to his old high school on both the April 2 edition of American Morning and the April 1 edition of The Situation Room.

Likewise, while it reported extensively on questions posed to Chelsea, as of 9 a.m. ET on April 2, MSNBC had not reported on the question to McCain (excluding news briefs, which were not searched). For example, during the March 26 edition of MSNBC's Hardball, host Chris Matthews reported: "An exchange on the trail yesterday may have bummed that minor episode. It happened when a student at Ball State University in Indiana -- his name is Evan Strange -- asked Chelsea about her mother's handling of the Monica Lewinsky scandal back when her husband, Bill, was impeached, what you might say was quite an historic part of the Clinton presidency." Additionally, Dan Abrams had Strange on the March 27 edition of his MSNBC program Verdict to discuss the question he asked Chelsea Clinton. But neither Hardball nor Verdict has reported on the question to McCain despite the fact that both shows mentioned McCain's trip to the high school.

Further, as Media Matters for America has noted, MSNBC has devoted several segments to Sen. Barack Obama's bowling performance at a March 29 campaign stop at Pleasant Valley Lanes in Altoona, Pennsylvania, during Hardball and Morning Joe, but neither program has covered the question the student asked of McCain.

From an April 1 entry on MSNBC's First Read blog:

The boldest question came from junior Katelyn Halldorson who asked what exactly the senator was doing at her school: "I think judging by the amount of press representatives here and also by the integration of your previous political endorsements in your earlier personal narrative, we can see that this isn't completely absent -- er political motivation isn't completely absent. Yet we were told that this isn't a political event. So what exactly is your purpose in being here -- not that I don't appreciate the opportunity, but I'd just like some clarification."

"I knew I should have cut this thing off. This meeting is over," McCain joked, before going into a long description of his biography tour and it's emphasis on "the values and principles that guided me and I think a lot of this country in the past," in addition to providing "a vision of how I think we need to address the challenges of the future."

McCain concluded the visit to his alma mater by saying, "I hope that attendance here was not compulsory... I apologize if you were unwillingly in attendance here."

According to one EHS staff member, attendance was compulsory, although it was unclear what the punishment would have been if a student had refused to attend.

From the April 1 edition of CNN's The Situation Room:

CAFFERTY: For the second time in two weeks, Chelsea Clinton has been asked a question about the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Campaigning for her mother at North Carolina State University yesterday, a student brought up the scandal that led to the impeachment of her father, Bill Clinton.

The student said Chelsea should have answered the question because it happened while her father was president of the United States. But the former first daughter was having none of it, saying, quote, "It's none of your business. This is something that is very personal to my family. I'm sure there are things personal to your family that you don't think are anyone else's business, either," unquote.

Chelsea also said that she doesn't think people "should vote for or against my mother because of my father." The student yesterday defended asking Chelsea the question, saying, "I feel it is our business because he was president at the time."

Yesterday's encounter followed a similar one at Butler University last week, when a student asked the former first daughter whether the Lewinsky scandal had hurt her mother's reputation. And again, Chelsea responded with, "I don't think that's any of your business."

While campaigning for her mother, Chelsea has refused to answer questions from the press, as well.

So here's the question: Chelsea Clinton says the Lewinsky scandal is none of the public's business. Is she right? Go to cnn.com/caffertyfile and post a comment on my blog.

You know, there's a better answer for her. And she's probably going to keep getting this, John, as she keeps traveling around to college campuses. She could say, you know what? I don't want to talk about it, instead of "it's none of your business," which is a little confrontational. She just simply said, that's not something I'm here to talk about. Case dismissed.

JOHN KING (guest host): Hey, it's a great question. It's a fascinating dilemma to watch her. She has every right to draw the line where she wants to put it. And students, of course, it's a public campaign, and she's out there campaigning for her mother. They have every right to ask the question. So we look forward to the answers.

From the 1 p.m. ET hour of the April 1 edition of MSNBC Live:

MITCHELL: Thanks, Monica. Senator John McCain is not just practicing revisionist history. He is actually telling the truth as he describes his boarding school years. He's on day two of his tour across the country detailing his personal history. And apparently that involved a bad temper, a chip on his shoulder, and being labeled the worst freshman. Senator McCain did describe his fondest memories of one former teacher.

McCAIN [video clip]: I have never forgotten the confidence that Mr. Rabnel's praise and trust in me gave me, nor have I forgotten the man who praised me many years later when I came home from Vietnam. Mr. Rabnel was the only person outside of my family who I wanted to see urgently. I felt he was someone to whom I could explain what had happened to me and who would understand.

MITCHELL: NBC's Kelly O'Donnell covers the McCain campaign and is here with us now. Kelly, welcome back from the road.

O'DONNELL: It's so nice that his event today was right in the neighborhood.

MITCHELL: How about that, the fact that he actually went to Episcopal here in surburban Washington, so that brought him home. But he is trying to reintroduce himself to people, and he has to figure out a way to get some attention, first of all --

O'DONNELL: Exactly.

MITCHELL: -- and, you know, calibrate this campaign. One of the things that he's trying to deal with is this Obama charge that it's a 100-year war in Iraq, you know, the --

O'DONNELL: This has dogged him for months now, Andrea, as you know.

From the 2 p.m. ET hour of the April 1 edition of MSNBC Live:

JANSING: To politics now and Sen. John McCain, who would be the first to tell you he was no saint when he was in boarding school. Today, he returned to his alma mater and described how he was labeled the worst freshman of the year. He's on day two of his tour across the country detailing his personal history and, of course, trying to grab headlines away from the Democrats.

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JANSING: Senator John McCain hardly practicing revisionist history as he describes his rambunctious days in boarding school. Today, he stopped by his alma mater as part of his personal history tour, candidly describing how he was voted the worst freshman of his year. He also told students he never expected he'd ever run for president.

NBC's Kelly O'Donnell is covering the McCain campaign, joining us now from Washington, D.C. Kelly, it's good to see you. We just saw you here and in California, so you've remained very flight bound. What do we know about maybe Senator McCain that we didn't know before from this personal history tour?

O'DONNELL: Well, as you get an idea from the intro there, he is trying to set up some of his detractors, perhaps, by getting out the bad news first. That's one of the laws of politics: if something is a little less flattering, you be the one to tell it. Well, this is a very mild case of that kind of a theory.

He was at his high school today, took real pride in telling students that he had been rambunctious, that he had come to that school -- it's a boarding school in the Alexandria, Virginia, area, so we're talking about suburban Washington, D.C. -- and he had a chip on his shoulder, in part because he was, as you know, a son of a Navy admiral, and so he had moved around a great deal and had sort of a turbulent school life as a young man. So Mom and Dad said, "We're going to put you in a boarding school." So he arrived with that kind of a spirit.

And he wanted to, I think, reflect to these students that you can continue to improve over time and in some ways, by looking back at those high school years, it's a reflection of the person he is in public life today. You know, he's got a bit of a temper -- certainly a reputation for that -- known for being someone who will take on his opponents, and I think he was trying to draw that thread from the good old days at Episcopal High School to the candidate he is today.

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    • Author by Sueelldd (April 02, 2008 9:28 pm ET)
         
      All this proves is that the media still wants to talk about Monica, Monica , Monica. Suprise.
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      • Author by carlileb5935 (April 02, 2008 11:50 pm ET)
           
        No, what it proves is that the media wants to destroy Clinton, destroy Clinton, destroy Clinton, because it wants to elect McCain, elect McCain, elect McCain.
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    • Author by notanotherconservative2254 (April 02, 2008 9:28 pm ET)
         

      High School  vs. college

      Teens vs. adults

      Apples vs. oranges

       

       

      Why do I have to (once again) correct the record?  It's different when candidates go to high schools as opposed to college.  High school events are REQUIRED.   College events are optional.

      It may be a technical issue, but I'm sure that high school events have to be "non partisan".   And, let's be honest, wouldn't you just have loved to knock the snot out of the high school creep who asked the dumb question of McCain?

       

      Go Obama!  We love you! 

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      • Author by fawltylogic (April 02, 2008 9:44 pm ET)
           

        "And, let's be honest, wouldn't you just have loved to knock the snot out of the high school creep who asked the dumb question of McCain?"

        Uh... no? Why?

        But that's you and the other rightwinger's answer to most everything, so it's understandable.

        Once again, can you imagine if this question was asked to Clinton or Obama? The questioner would already be booked on The O'Reilly Factor and Hannity & Colmes. 

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      • Author by therick (April 02, 2008 9:46 pm ET)
           

        "And, let's be honest, wouldn't you just have loved to knock the snot out of the high school creep who asked the dumb question of McCain?"

        Answer--NO!  But, it does say a lot about someone who dares put into writing a fantasy about beating a minor.  After you knocked the snot out of him, would you water board him too?

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        • Author by wolf kotenberg (April 02, 2008 9:51 pm ET)
             
          I am guessing Chelsea was prepared for this question. There is no doubt in my mind some  high schoolers listen to the Hannity rants and foster such questions. Go Chelsea , you might be president someday.
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          • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (April 02, 2008 10:44 pm ET)
               

            I've seen this question to Chelsea discussed all over the TV and radio, described as too personal, too intrusive, and simply described as a difficult question. What doesn't get mentioned is that it was just an inane question( I'm referring to the one about HRC's credibility being damaged by the Monica Lewinsky thing).

            WTF does it have to do with Hillary's credibility? Even a low level wingnut could have tied it into her alertness, or her ability to deal with being deceived.It still would have been a bullsh*t question, but it would have been some slightly polished BS. 

            I don't mean to pick on the questioner, I know he's just a kid, but I saw him soon after asking Chelsea the question on Fox, and he's really a grade-A weasel in training. He tried to explain that he was fishing for a very positive response about Hillary's strength, but I don't even think the Fox bobbleheads were buying his crap.

            In contrast, McCain handled a pretty tame and relevant question by joking into a backpedal. A comparable question would have been "Senator McCain, it's documented that you've surrendered to the enemy in a time of war in the past. Do you think this hurts your credibility as a potential Commander-in-Chief?"

            Any of you college kids scheduled for a Gramps McCain speech, feel free to use that one. I'll bet you'll get on Fox News too, although you may not be treated as nicely as the kid asking a woman about her dad's BJ.

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            • Author by fawltylogic (April 02, 2008 10:54 pm ET)
                 

              A comparable question would have been "Senator McCain, it's documented that you've surrendered to the enemy in a time of war in the past. Do you think this hurts your credibility as a potential Commander-in-Chief?"

              Funny you bring this up, I was thinking a while ago that this is the EXACT angle the rightwingers would choose to attack someone like McCain if he was a Democrat, like they attacked Kerry's military record. They would claim that him being captured was a sign of weakness and then probably go on to make all sorts of claims about his time in captivity (probably how it really wasn't THAT hard, that he did it to further a future career or whatever). For the record, I do NOT believe any of that, but that's how rightwingers would frame it if McCain was a Democrat.

              But if Democrats did it to McCain, the outrage against them in the media would be MASSIVE. Funny how that works.

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              • Author by anotheramerican (April 03, 2008 10:22 am ET)
                   

                Fawlty,

                It must be fun making up right wing questions and the responses. :-)

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                • Author by fawltylogic (April 03, 2008 10:58 am ET)
                     
                  Rather depressing actually, the predictability of them is way too high.
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                  • Author by anotheramerican (April 03, 2008 3:20 pm ET)
                       
                    Might I suggest that if  making up questions and the answers is so depressing perhaps you should try spending more time with the rest of us? ;-) 
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            • Author by pointofview (April 03, 2008 4:05 pm ET)
                 

              Wow...a new low from the supposed Col.

              After years as a pow....would love to see how you would have responded.  Reading remarks like yours make me more sure than ever the McCain will win the election.

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              • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (April 03, 2008 9:02 pm ET)
                   
                I'd like to respond, but your post is completely incoherent. Try to focus.
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                • Author by pointofview (April 03, 2008 10:10 pm ET)
                     

                  The focus was clear.  You said " A comparable question would have been "Senator McCain, it's documented that you've surrendered to the enemy in a time of war in the past. Do you think this hurts your credibility as a potential Commander-in-Chief?"

                  That kind of crap is a new low, even for people like you who thrive on the bottom, and it makes me more and more convinced that McCain will win this election.  Comments like yours belong in the RANDI RHODES hall of fame.

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                  • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (April 04, 2008 11:42 am ET)
                       
                    Pointy, You really need to take a deep breath. It was "a comparable question" to the ridiculous question posed to Chelsea Clinton.It was deliberately "low". That was the point. I don't know how this helps you to hope that McCain will win, unless you're convinced that a majority of voters are as thick as you are, and that's a scary thought
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      • Author by carlileb5935 (April 02, 2008 11:52 pm ET)
           

        "And, let's be honest, wouldn't you just have loved to knock the snot out of the high school creep who asked the dumb question of McCain?"

        Why? 

        No, I'd like to knock the s**t out of the Republican operative punks who are harassing Chelsea. They must be practicing for work as O'Reilly interns (male.)

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        • Author by Lynn (April 03, 2008 10:22 am ET)
             
          Wow, takes a lot of HATE to want to beat the sh-it out of people who you don't like. I'll remember that the next time your ranting on about the Hilary hating hordes or someone is talking about how civil the Clinton supporters at MMFA as opposed to the nasty Obama supporters. Just think not once have a read a post here saying how much someone wanted to beat the sh-it out of you and  of course we won't do that because that would be too hateful.
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          • Author by jeter2 (April 03, 2008 11:52 am ET)
               

            I'll remember that the next time your ranting on about the Hilary hating hordes or someone is talking about how civil the Clinton supporters at MMFA as opposed to the nasty Obama supporters.

            Lynn gathers ammunition for the next onslaught of the Obama vs Clinton Uncivil War at MMFA ;-)

             

            Hey Lynn,

            I caught Obama on Matthews Hardball College Tour last night & I gotta say I was impressed. For one thing, Matthews didn't turn into a gushing drooling love sick idiot...

            Also, Obama came across as someone reasonable, extremely intelligent & authentic. And of course personable & charming ;-)

            I really like the guy & am feeling more & more comfortable with the idea of him in the Oval Office.

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            • Author by anotheramerican (April 03, 2008 3:01 pm ET)
                 

              Jeter,

              Yeah, he a charming fellow. But do you agree with his positions on the issues?  

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              • Author by jeter2 (April 03, 2008 3:45 pm ET)
                   

                AA,

                To be honest I don't agree with McCain, Clinton or Obama on a variety of issues...so I'm just looking for some kind of comfort zone. I figured I could live with McCain or Clinton as President, but I wasn't sure about Obama. He seemed like just a lot of pretty rhetoric, no substance. But having watched this interview I was like, well ok, I can live with this guy too.

                Quite frankly none of the 3 would have been my choice, but seeing it will be one of the 3 that ends up in the Oval Office, you gotta at least try to accept it.

                Translated: I don't want to think damn I have to move to Canada...no wait I don't want to go to Canada. How about Aruba? Or Costa Rica? Yeah I could do that ;-)

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        • Author by jeter2 (April 03, 2008 11:39 am ET)
             

          I'd like to knock the s**t out of the Republican operative punks who are harassing Chelsea.

          Aw come on Carl how do you know it was Republican operative punks & not Obama operative punks? I mean that's just as feasible isn't it? In fact it makes more sense seeing a great majority of kids are Obama supporters.

          Actually I don't think the kid was an any groups operative punk at all. Probably just a punk who thought it would be cool to embarrass Chelsea, or did it on a dare.

          I think this type of question is just an example of the lack of respect kids have these days.

          Could you see anyone years ago asking Caroline Kennedy what it was like to have a philandering Dad?

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          • Author by Lynn (April 03, 2008 1:12 pm ET)
               
            I agree Jeter it’s a distasteful question to pose to Chelsea in my opinion. It’s tacky, although I guess if Hilary hadn’t already addressed this on that cutting edge political show Tyra Banks I believe it would be fair to ask both political Clintons how they dealt with this very public scandal and the bearing it might have had on what Hilary seems to now want to characterize as a Clinton co-presidency. The fact that they were able to focus on the business at hand and not be irrevocably distracted from the business of the presidency is actually a plus. Obviously I’ve made my choice in the race but that uncomfortable question being posed to the political Clintons could be spinned into a positive if they don’t fly off the handle if asked. I am so mad at Wright now for providing this kind of ammunition to attack Obama but I believe Obama is handling it fairly well. He’s not ducking the questions or responding in a petulant manner.  
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            • Author by anotheramerican (April 03, 2008 3:09 pm ET)
                 

              On the contrary, I think it is a relevant question. After all her father was impeached because of it. Most college kids want to know how Chelsea, as their child, feels about this very, very public scandal. 

              If Chelsea ever chose to write about it, she'd undoubtedly get millions for her account. Simply because she says, "It's none of your business" does not make it any less relevant. 

               

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              • Author by Lynn (April 03, 2008 4:57 pm ET)
                   
                I'm sorry AA I believe how Chelsea feels about a scandal that occurred in her in her family has no political relevancy.  The only relevance that I see is for the older Clintons and how they dealt with an extreme circumstance while conducting the people's business. I don't think anybody should have to discuss affairs that their parent's may have had because it had nothing to do with them. You see AA I don't believe that the sin of the farther should be visited on anyone else except the father. It a  was rude question IMHO.
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            • Author by jeter2 (April 03, 2008 5:38 pm ET)
                 

              I am so mad at Wright now for providing this kind of ammunition to attack Obama but I believe Obama is handling it fairly well.

              Yeah Lynn, I agree Wright was a stumbling block for sure but Obama handled it best as he could. Wright's ranting had left me thinking less of Obama because he didn't appear to have the good judgment to leave the church & distance himself from Reverend Wright before it became news.

              However a poster named DarkMass left a link on another thread that has given me a different perspective on Wright. I've left it here for you in case you haven't read it.

              http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-oped0326trinitymar26,0,2414760.story

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              • Author by Lynn (April 03, 2008 6:03 pm ET)
                   
                Jeter, I always thought that the clips were probably just extreme rants and a few of them extremely paranoid, but I didn't think they were particularly racist at all. They were angry and angry toward the "government" . A specific governmental administration is not America. Like the Bush administration is not America. Anyway we have had policy in the past put forward by different administrations that ran contrary to the ideals we espouse as Americans, I believe that’s what he was talking or ranting about. Was GD America over the top? Of course it was. My concern was that this would and it will be used to question Obama's patriotism. Now for those who want it to be Wright will forever be representative of all those Blacks who go to church and curse America every Sunday. It’s just a new stereotype for those people who need them.  Anyway, thanks for the link, it is a very lovely and romantic story. It says a lot about Wright's personal beliefs about race huh? The Obama campaign should send out mass mailings of this article in PA if they haven't already done so.

                 

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      • Author by worrierking (April 03, 2008 7:52 am ET)
           
        "And let's be honest"?

        Once again, you first.
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        • Author by wzwriter (April 03, 2008 8:31 am ET)
             

          "And let's be honest"?

          Once again, you first.

          There's no such thing as an honest conservative.  If they took an honest look at the facts and the truth, they wouldn't be conservatives.

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          • Author by jeter2 (April 03, 2008 11:55 am ET)
               

            No such thing as an honest Conservative?

            Thanks..

            Geez Wiz sometimes you piss me off.

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            • Author by wzwriter (April 03, 2008 11:58 am ET)
                 
              How can conservatives be honest when their agenda is propped up by lies on top of lies?  You can't be honest when your agenda is dishonest.
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              • Author by jeter2 (April 03, 2008 12:11 pm ET)
                   
                Well Wiz I'm a Conservative & I have no agenda. I may sometimes have a different philosophy or attitude regarding certain values, ideas & traditions than Liberals & see solutions to problems differently than you. That doesn't make me, or ALL Conservatives dishonest.
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                • Author by tommy (April 03, 2008 12:24 pm ET)
                     

                  J,

                  You have more honesty in your conservative little finger than........never mind.

                  ;) 

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                  • Author by jeter2 (April 03, 2008 1:05 pm ET)
                       

                    Hey thanks Tommy :-)

                    But you know the Libs don't like it when we Conservatives say anything complimentary to one another. Only Libs are allowed to high five each other ;-)

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                    • Author by tommy (April 03, 2008 1:13 pm ET)
                         

                      I know J,

                      And get some flowers for our room next time, will ya? 

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                • Author by wzwriter (April 03, 2008 2:37 pm ET)
                     
                  OK - I stand corrected.  Most conservatives are dishonest - not all.
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      • Author by wzwriter (April 03, 2008 8:29 am ET)
           

        And, let's be honest, wouldn't you just have loved to knock the snot out of the high school creep who asked the dumb question of McCain?

        I think the kid should be commended for asking a question that needed to be asked.  And if your first reaction to this is to think of striking a kid, I hope you don't have any children of your own - for their sake.

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    • Author by kafco1 (April 02, 2008 10:54 pm ET)
         
      ITS THE SAME OLD STORY, JUST AS THE SONG GOES, TROUBLE IS THE SO CALLED LIBERAL JOURNALIST HAVE NO SPINE AND WILL NOT BUCK THE "HERD" , AFTER ALL, THEY WISH TO BE INVITED TO THE TALK AND CABLE AND RADIO PROGRAMS SO THEY CAN FETTER THEIR RESPECTIVE NESTS. IT SEEMS HOPELESS TO EXPECT THAT MORALITY WILL TAKE  THE FOREFRONT OVER THE "GREEN ZONE", MONEY AND POSITION COME FIRST AND SPOUTING LIBERAL THOUGHTS CAN BE SLOWLY INJECTED IN THE NEWS THAT FOLLOWS , BUT TO TAKE A MORAL STAND, DON'T BE FOOLISH.
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    • Author by dave (April 03, 2008 8:50 am ET)
         

       It was a good question. But in true politician fashion, after making a joke about it, never actually answered it. He should of said "That was a great question. My visit here is purely political. If you can't see that, you are probably getting poor grades in your political science class. If you already know it to be true, I may have an opening on my campaign election staff for you."

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      • Author by anotheramerican (April 03, 2008 9:54 am ET)
           

        Hahaha... Great answer.

        When reading the question, I thought the same thing. It is obvious that everything McCain does is political. It was not political in the sense that  McCain talked the kids about his experience there rather than his typical stump speech, so maybe that is the difference. Obviously the kids can't yet vote. 

        I don't fault the kid for asking it. I thought it was a good question. I am disapointed that we don't see MMFA trying to distill McCain's answer. That missing part of this thread is suspicious in my mind.  

        Even though I think it was an honest question, the answer, as long as it was answered, (and it must have been rather dull since MMFA didn't bother to show us the answer,) didn't matter. The mainstream media recognized that this question was not a story and moved on. Just because some blogger called it the 'boldest question' does not really make it that bold. 

        MMFA trying to show that this is right wing bias by equating it to Chelsea's refusal to answer the Lewinsky question is, in my mind, a very weak comparison. 

        As an aside, I do believe Chelsea has the right to not answer the question, but to say it is none of your business is the worst possible answer. It only invites others to repeat the question. 

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        • Author by dbeden4153 (April 03, 2008 10:38 am ET)
             

          "Even though I think it was an honest question, the answer, as long as it was answered, (and it must have been rather dull since MMFA didn't bother to show us the answer,) didn't matter."

          But he didn't answer.  He made a lame joke and left it at that. 

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          • Author by anotheramerican (April 03, 2008 3:18 pm ET)
               

            DB,

            Even MMFA acknowledges that McCain went on after his joke. I interpreted that as McCain's answer.

            MMFA- According to Murray, McCain responded: " 'I knew I should have cut this thing off. This meeting is over,' McCain joked, before going into a long description of his biography tour and it's emphasis on 'the values and principles that guided me and I think a lot of this country in the past,' in addition to providing 'a vision of how I think we need to address the challenges of the future.' "

            That sounds like an answer to me.  

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            • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (April 03, 2008 9:05 pm ET)
                 

              That sounds like an answer to me. - anotheramerican

              To what imaginary question? 

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      • Author by billyziege (April 03, 2008 10:14 am ET)
           

        Actually, I thought McCain handled the question superbly from a neocon perspective.  As you say, of course it is political.  Also as you say, everyone with two brain cells knows this.  But as usual, politicians must fall back upon newsspeak to mask the agenda in gentler terms.  This is just how politics works, especially neoconservative politicans.  However, the jokes were the answer.  By pointing out this facade, the student called McCain on an obvious issue.  By answering with jokes (which essentially said "You're right, but let me evade the question and restate a DIFFERENT obviousness."), McCain was able to deftly reapply the make-up and re-state the propaganda without looking like a hypocrite.  (Compare with the option, "Of course this isn't political.  It is nothing more than a biography tour.")  Note:  Bush had his questions pre-selected.  I think this reflects relatively positively on McCain.  Notice the word relative.  Also notice I had no regard for Bush immediately after he came into power and began micro-managing previously non-political governmental scientific organizations.

        By the way, The Daily Show did cover this last night. 

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    • Author by dunman1 (April 03, 2008 11:09 am ET)
         

      From the mouths of babes  ..huh, I want send that kid $25

      Ussually it seems msnbc is a pretty straight shooter, unlike fox, cnn, and hnn. I'm not convinced it's anything more than an over sight. If msnbc becomes a GOP commercial like the others I'll just get rid of cable altogether.

      I am amazed on a daily basis at the "stuff" that comes out of McCain mouth. At least Media Matters reports it. Thanks MM! 

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      • Author by wzwriter (April 03, 2008 11:48 am ET)
           

        I am amazed on a daily basis at the "stuff" that comes out of McCain mouth.

        Me, too.  Is this a sign of the onset of Alzheimer's?????

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    • Author by MoonbatYouBet (April 03, 2008 1:00 pm ET)
         
      Apparently the characteristic that makes McCain such a "maverick" is the way his "straight talk" seems to run counter to his actions.  Both this trip and his European vacation were blatantly political campaigns and yet he keeps trying to claim they weren't.  He hires squads of lobbyists to work his campaign while speaking against the influence of lobbyists on our system.  He uses the very effective political tool of his Vietnam experience while saying he doesn't.  He opposes torture while supporting legislation legalizing it.  And on and on.
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      • Author by dunman1 (April 03, 2008 7:05 pm ET)
           
        My personal favorite is the flop McCain did on the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy, now McCain wants to make them permanent.

        Barack for President '08!
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    • Author by obamacan (April 03, 2008 1:25 pm ET)
         
      For those of you who "don't know enough about Obama" you could download either of his audiobooks - which are abridged but read by Obama.  ALL of the above seems so ridiculous to be discussing when you understand the depth of background, intelligence, understanding of US rural and urban issues, world issues, compassion, etc that Senator Obama has experienced in a life longer than when Bill Clinton took office. He is more than ready.
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    • Author by swift (April 03, 2008 3:49 pm ET)
         
      I've cut off my cable because I don't want to see any of this crap anymore, but it's really appalling what a dishonest wasteland journalism has become. McCain, you see, is one of them, but it's perfectly all right to ask a woman who was 17 at the time about her father's affair ten years ago, and "ask whether she should answer," over and over again, so they can bring up Lewinsky again. Reminds me of the time they did their best to drive Clinton out of office. How they led the charge for Iraq. How they've been completely silent about the reality that we should have impeached Bush for bringing dishonor to the White House at least four years ago. No, it's all about McCain being a local school boy, and how fascinating everything he does is. Tell me: is McCain a Muslim?
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    • Author by rojo7449 (April 05, 2008 12:10 am ET)
         
      The media focus at the moment is destroying Hillary in her bid for the democratic nomination.  When the GE "begins" McCain will get plenty of press.  We can only wait and see if it's good, bad or indifferent.  But, at the moment, he's not the story.  They know they can bring these things up again later, if they need to.
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