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With a wildly off-base prediction record, Morris said Hillary Clinton "might have some trouble ... getting re-elected senator from New York"

April 04, 2008 5:03 pm ET

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SUMMARY: On The O'Reilly Factor, Dick Morris claimed that Hillary Clinton "might have some trouble, though, getting re-elected senator from New York, particularly if the blacks give her a primary fight." Morris has made previous predictions about Clinton that have proved wildly off the mark.

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Dick Morris -- who has made predictions about Sen. Hillary Clinton and Senate opponents of hers that proved wildly off the mark -- said on the April 2 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor that Clinton "might have some trouble, though, getting re-elected senator from New York, particularly if the blacks give her a primary fight. And that's one of the things Obama's going to hold over her head, that he'll support her for re-election. And she could use that support because she's really alienated a lot of her base."

As Media Matters noted, in columns in The Hill and the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review and in appearances on Fox News in 2005, Morris repeatedly touted New York Republican Jeanine Pirro's 2006 Senate campaign against Clinton -- asserting, regarding Clinton running for a second Senate term, that, "the first thing I would tell Hillary, if I were advising Hillary, is you're crazy to run for the Senate"; that "[s]he might just take a pass"; and that if Pirro ran, Clinton might drop out of the race. Morris predicted that if Pirro proved to be the strong candidate that he expected her to be, Clinton would drop out. Pirro, however, trailing badly in polls, dropped out of the race on December 21, 2005. Additionally, on the November 6, 2000, edition of The O'Reilly Factor, Morris asserted, about Clinton's first Senate campaign in 2000 against former New York Rep. Rick Lazio: "I think Lazio is, at this point, more likely to win it than Hillary, because, if Hillary is at 48 percent -- or even at 49 percent, or even at 50 percent -- a lot of her vote of minorities, a lot of her -- who have no real reason to vote in the presidential race." Lazio lost to Clinton by more than 12 percentage points, even though he outspent her by nearly $11 million.

As Media Matters documented, on the April 14, 2005, edition of The O'Reilly Factor, Morris predicted Clinton might "take a pass" rather than face Pirro in the election:

MORRIS: Could I just mention one other thought about Hillary, on your previous subject? There is a very interesting fight shaping up in '06 in New York state. Because Hillary, you know has to run for re-election to the Senate before she runs for president.

BILL O'REILLY (host): Right

MORRIS: I personally would advise her to skip it and just run for president. What does she need a re-election fight for? But I've heard that there's some possibility that a pro-choice, pro-assault rifle ban, pro-affirmative action woman might run against her, Jeanine Pirro, the attorney general -- district attorney of Westchester who's on Fox News a lot.

O'REILLY: Yes.

MORRIS: That would be something.

O'REILLY: That's in the air. That's in the air. And you know, but Hillary is so much money. But that would be a competitive race. And if that happens --

MORRIS: Because she -- Hillary needs to run against someone like a [Newt] Gingrich.

O'REILLY: Yes.

MORRIS: Hillary needs to run against somebody like a Gingrich, who's anti-choice, and you know, pro-, anti-gun control. But again, someone who in essence is so much like her on the policy issues, Hillary would find herself fighting herself.

O'REILLY: It would be interesting. But I think Hillary might take your advice, if Ms. Pirro does declare, she might say, "I'm going to run for president."

MORRIS: Yes. She might just take a pass. What does she need to spend $10 million getting re-elected to the Senate for?

Additionally, in a June 6, 2005, article in The Hill, Morris called Pirro "Hillary's worst nightmare," asserted that "Clinton is especially vulnerable to Pirro," and predicted Clinton would "drop[] out of race if Pirro comes on strong":

In New York state, Westchester County District Attorney Jeanine Pirro seems to be getting closer to running against her [Clinton] in the 2006 race for the Senate. Pirro has to be Hillary's worst nightmare. She is a pro-choice woman who even backs Medicaid funding for abortion and a supporter of gun control, affirmative action and gay civil unions.

[...]

Hillary has always thrived off right-wing challengers who flunk the litmus tests imposed by New York's liberal electorate. But, in Pirro, she has met someone whom she can't browbeat over abortion or the usual Democratic issues.

Clinton is especially vulnerable to Pirro because Hillary can't pledge to serve out her term if she is reelected. Polls show that her refusal to do so strikes New Yorkers very badly. Having extended the welcome mat to this carpetbagger and taken her at her word that she wanted to be part of the Big Apple, they feel they are being treated like doormats in reelecting someone who will obviously begin to miss votes and focus all her energy on running for president as soon as she is reelected.

If Pirro attracts the massive national funding she is likely to get, she can wage a very strong race against Hillary. My bet is that Clinton thinks the better of it and drops out of the race if Pirro comes on strong. Why should she risk the presidency -- and have to spend $20 million -- just to get reelected to her old job?

And ... if Hillary drops out after Pirro has built up a head of steam, it could give the GOP a Senate seat in the most unlikely of places -- Clinton's back yard.

On the August 8, 2005, edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor, Morris said Clinton would be "crazy" to run against Pirro and asserted that "Pirro's no cakewalk":

O'REILLY: OK, how would you go after Pirro?

MORRIS: Well, the first thing I would tell Hillary, if I were advising Hillary, is you're crazy to run for the Senate. What do you need to spend $30 million or $40 million for, in a race that will probably become a nip-and-tuck race. It'll be within five or eight points. And you win by five points.

And then you go around the country explaining how come I was elected by 12 [percentage points] but re-elected by only five. It's a no-win game.

And what does she get? A Senate seat that she wants to vacate. Whereas - and I would go back to her and I would say, Hillary, do you remember when we were talking in 1990 about whether Bill should run for re-election as governor of Arkansas before he runs '92? And you said he shouldn't because you said he needs the full time to campaign in Iowa and New Hampshire? And do you remember how right you were then? What are you getting involved in this for?

O'REILLY: Yes, but pride? Isn't it pride? Because she's obviously said --

MORRIS: She can be real proud in the White House. And --

O'REILLY: So you would advise her to just not run for the Senate, and say to the people in New York, "Look, I don't want to run because I'm not going to be here for the full commitment. I'm going to run for president." She's not going to do that. What are the odds of her doing that?

MORRIS: Well, that depends on whether she has a cakewalk or not. When it only looked like [attorney and Richard Nixon son-in-law Edward] Cox would run, that was a cakewalk for Hillary.

O'REILLY: Yes. Pirro's no cakewalk.

MORRIS: Pirro's no cakewalk.

O'REILLY: No.

MORRIS: And if Pirro demonstrates over the fall that she can really put the points on the board and really close the gap --

O'REILLY: Raises --

MORRIS: .-- and raises a lot of dough from around the country.

O'REILLY: Right, which she will.

MORRIS: Which she will, then I think Hillary has to look at that again. And she has to say, "One of my big advantages is I will enter this race with an ability to spend $100 million."

O'REILLY: But it looks like --

MORRIS: "But if I've already blown $40 million of that --"

O'REILLY: -- it looks like she's chicken, though, if she doesn't.

MORRIS: No.

O'REILLY: No?

MORRIS: Not if she pulls out when she still has a 10 or 15-point lead, but she realizes it's down from 32. She'll say, "I had a 12-point lead. What do you mean? I was certain to win re-election."

O'REILLY: If she doesn't pull out, do you think it's going to be nasty? You think -- I would -- with all due respect, I know Ms. Pirro. Not well, but you know, I know her. I don't know Mrs. Clinton. I've never spoken to her. But I wouldn't want to get in between those two ladies. Is this going to get nasty?

MORRIS: I don't think so.

O'REILLY: No?

MORRIS: I think that Hillary is going to plant all kinds of stories about Jeanine's husband.

O'REILLY: Do you really think that?

MORRIS: But then Jeanine can basically come back and say, "Why don't we leave both of our husbands out of it?"

O'REILLY: Yes.

MORRIS: "My husband, who served time for tax evasion, and your husband who lost his law license for perjury." And I think that's a pretty effective argument.

Further, in an August 14, 2005, article in the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, Morris called the Pirro-Clinton race a "battle royale" and said "If Pirro posts some early gains," Clinton "may read the handwriting on the wall and she may pull out of the race":

Jeanine Pirro has formally announced her candidacy for U.S. Senate from New York, which will pit her against Hillary Clinton in a battle royale. This is just the kind of fight that Sen. Clinton hoped to avoid.

While Hillary would have no problem dispatching an opponent like Nixon son-in-law Edward Cox or Yonkers Mayor John Spencer (the two other possible GOP contenders), Pirro presents a real problem.

Jeanine Pirro is pro-choice, pro-gun control, pro-affirmative action, pro-gay-civil unions and pro-immigration. And, of course, she's a woman.

[...]

And, at some point, Mrs. Clinton may feel Pirro gaining on her and wonder if it is worth the battle.

It's worth remembering that Hillary did not want Bill to run for re-election for governor of Arkansas in 1990 as he contemplated a race for president in 1992. (Back then she had a better idea: She would run in his place.)

[...]

If Pirro posts some early gains, particularly upstate, where it is cheap to do early advertising, Hillary and Bill may read the handwriting on the wall and she may pull out of the race.

As late as September 21, 2005, Morris wrote in an article published in The Hill that "Hillary has a real fight on her hands," and said Pirro "might just beat" Clinton:

Ed Cox, Nixon's son-in-law, and John Spencer, former Yonkers mayor, were not the sort to confront Hillary with a potent challenge. But now that Jeanine Pirro has declared her candidacy, Hillary has a real fight on her hands.

[...]

Already, since Pirro announced -- and despite her embarrassing 32 seconds of silence while she groped for her speech text -- the Westchester Republican, a district attorney, has closed the gap with Hillary. The Democratic senator led Pirro by a gigantic 30-point margin, 61-31 percent, before Jeanine announced. But afterward Pirro trailed by only 55-34.

[...]

Armed with the doubts of New Yorkers about Hillary's fealty and protected by her social liberalism, Pirro will make a very effective challenger. She will almost certainly make the race closer than the 12 points that separated Hillary from her 2000 Republican challenger, Rep. Rick Lazio. And Pirro will make her work hard and spend tens of millions of dollars.

And she might just beat Hillary. Which raises the question: Why is Hillary running for reelection to a job she wants to leave? New Yorkers will all be asking, so Hillary might want to ask herself.

Pirro, who was trailing badly in polls, dropped out of the race on December 21, 2005, and announced instead her intention to run for New York attorney general, a race she ultimately lost by nearly 20 percentage points to Democrat Andrew Cuomo.

Similarly, on the November 6, 2000, edition of The O'Reilly Factor, Morris asserted: "I think Lazio is, at this point, more likely to win it than Hillary, because, if Hillary is at 48 percent -- or even at 49 percent, or even at 50 percent -- a lot of her vote of minorities, a lot of her -- who have no real reason to vote in the presidential race":

O'REILLY: Hillary-Lazio.

MORRIS: I think in the New York state's -- in the New York Senate race, it's going to be very close. I'm not sure the presidential race will be that close. I think Bush may win it by a little bit. But in the New York race, it's going to be very close. But I think Lazio is, at this point, more likely to win it than Hillary, because, if Hillary is at 48 percent -- or even at 49 percent, or even at 50 percent -- a lot of her vote of minorities, a lot of her -- who have no real reason to vote in the presidential race.

Gore is going to carry New York heavily. And it isn't up for grabs. And Bush isn't the kind of figure that makes minority voters hang up around -- hang around the polls for hours making sure that they can vote. He's not a scare figure like Giuliani or like Ronald Reagan was. And the anti- Hillary people are very focused on voting. And I think, in a certain sense, when -- in your previous segment, when you talked about the idea that Hillary is running against herself, that is the right strategy for Lazio, because nobody can run against themselves in America today and win.

You have to do a coalition of people that are going to vote for you and against your opponent. And Hillary has not succeeded in painting Lazio as a pro-life, right-wing, anti-gun-control nut. And she needed to do that, so that she could make up for her own lack of popularity with two or three points of anti-Lazio voters. And I don't think she's done that.

O'REILLY: Right. All right, Dick Morris in London, thank you very much.

The following day, Clinton defeated Lazio by 12 percentage points.

From the April 2 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor:

O'REILLY: If your scenario, your seeing the future comes true, if it comes true, if it goes down the way you say it's going down, basically Hillary Clinton returns to the Senate here in New York. And is she a power player? Or is she just basically a regular senator?

MORRIS: I think viewed from the vantage point of 10 or 20 years from now, she'll be kind of like Ted Kennedy, a sort of liberal lodestar, the one who constantly fights in the, quote, "good causes," kind of the North Star that tells you where liberal is.

She might have some trouble, though, getting re-elected senator from New York, particularly if the blacks give her a primary fight. And that's one of the things Obama's going to hold over her head, that he'll support her for re-election. And she could use that support because she's really alienated a lot of her base.

O'REILLY: All right, Dick Morris, everybody. Have fun in Paris. Say hello to everybody out there. You know how popular I am in France.

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    • Author by watershed (April 04, 2008 5:10 pm ET)
         
      This guy's like a political Carnac the Magnificent!
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      • Author by DEMS_SOL (April 04, 2008 5:19 pm ET)
           
        "Yes...you are correct."
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        • Author by carlileb5935 (April 04, 2008 10:20 pm ET)
             
          "Sir."
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          • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (April 06, 2008 4:04 am ET)
               

            (sigh) OK, I can't believe it's been sitting there this long---

             

            HI - YOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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            • Author by eweston8542983 (April 06, 2008 12:31 pm ET)
                 
              Well that balances the Comic All once again. I wondered what happened to the sun yesterday.
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      • Author by mari2j (April 04, 2008 7:29 pm ET)
           
        It is far worse than that.  The guy has a wild crush on Mr. Clinton and will never forgive Mrs. Clinton because her husband chooses her over Morris.  Amazingly, Morris is just like a jealous girlfriend when it comes to the Clinton marriage.  Most of his points of views come from this very sick attachment he has for Bill Clinton.  As a nmatter of fact, all of Dick Morris's comments should be viewes with this very sick relationship of his in mind.  That Clinton was not interested and preferred his wife is just eating this guy alive.  Poor, poor, sad, misguided Dick.  Even his philandering never seemed to meet this sad need in his life.
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        • Author by carlileb5935 (April 04, 2008 10:24 pm ET)
             
          Wouldn't you love to ask Bill Clinton just how much he regrets having hired this guy? Morris has gotten more mileage out of this one job than those guys you always see on TV telling the same story over and over again about Marilyn Monroe.
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    • Author by truthseeker77 (April 04, 2008 5:15 pm ET)
         
      I have a $1000 reward for the first person who can link me to a Morris article in the past 6 months where he did not attack Hillary Clinton.
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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (April 04, 2008 5:31 pm ET)
         
      Genius boy predicted  ( and published a book ) describing the 2008 election as Clinton vs Rice . I must salute him !
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    • Author by pete592 (April 04, 2008 5:35 pm ET)
         
      More brilliant insight from the right wing's tax-dodging, hooker-confiding career backstabber.
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      • Author by wolf kotenberg (April 04, 2008 5:38 pm ET)
           
        Roger Ailes thinks he got a good deal
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        • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (April 04, 2008 5:43 pm ET)
             
          I think Fox has some sort of Bizarro-world inverse-credibility hiring rules. I'm still amazed when I turn on that channel, with all of their blaring slogans about "trust" and "facts"- then I see Morris, or Kristol or Novak or any of the other blabbing heads who are right about 1/2 as often as the weather guy.
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          • Author by carlileb5935 (April 04, 2008 10:32 pm ET)
               
            I think you have to have a criminal record to get a job there.
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    • Author by notanotherconservative2254 (April 04, 2008 6:10 pm ET)
         

      Hillary has demonstrated what a lousy candidate she really is.  I mean, she had all the advantages coming into this 2008 election.  And yet she is getting whooped by an inexperienced newcomer who (and as an Obama supporter, I must be honest) has almost no real qualifications to be the next president.  In fact, to tell the truth, I am a big supporter of affirmative action, and to me Obama is going to be the first affirmative action president.

      So when Hillary finally faces a real challenger for her senate seat she just might be in big trouble if she cannot win against Obama.

       

      Go Obama!!! 

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      • Author by mari2j (April 04, 2008 7:46 pm ET)
           
        Hmmmm pardon me if I find your statemnt about being an Abama supporter far beyond belief.  Nor am I impressed with your statements about Hillary.  Sounds much more like a lurking Republican.  Actually OBama is wonderfully prepared to be the President of our Country from the very first day.  True, he lacks the total arragorance that Bush has and he actaully knows how to get along with folks in the other party.  Not to worry about his abilities as Commander in Chief the very first day.  He actually knows how to take advice from experts, unlike Bush.  My comments were solely about Dick Morris and his OBSESSION with Bill Clinton.  On the other hand, Obama is going to be able to be President from day 1 and do it with  care and concern for our country, unlike the hapless Bush,
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      • Author by solon (April 05, 2008 3:52 pm ET)
           
        We already knew you were a liar and a fool. Now we know you are a racist piece of garbage. ANYONE in the Democratic party who has risen to Obamas level and can give the kind of speech Obama can give would be a contender. I assume you spew this ignorance to show what a hateful moron you are. Well done.
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    • Author by steeve (April 04, 2008 6:20 pm ET)
         

      Let's all remember Morris the next time some right winger says that Matthews is a liberal because of what he did 30 years ago.

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    • Author by copiousdissent.blogspot.com (April 04, 2008 8:25 pm ET)
         

      People need to understand something about Morris.  He was nothing but a person who was really good at creating attack ads.  He was never an analyst.

      Nevertheless, he is simply wrong about everything he has ever predicted.

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    • Author by (April 06, 2008 3:10 am ET)
         
      I do not understand how you can bring someone on like Dick Morris, who hates the Clinton's and even made a slanderous movie about them, is allowed to be giving commentary on this election and they usually announce him as "Former Clinton adviser" That is misleading and people like him should have to announce up front that they do not like the person they are going to talk about so you can take it with a grain of salt. I don't know why they want him anyway? When he talks its like hearing a cat dying. His voice is sooo annoying! I just wan to kill myself listening to him talk. He sounds like the Mike Myers character Linda Richman on "Coffee Talk" but worse. I hate to wish people bad luck but I wish he would get fired from everything he does and never worked on television again. Bill O'Reilly could get someone that at least doesn't make you want to kill yourself when they speak. 
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