During all-GOP Fox News panel, Fleischer touted "stature gap," McCain as "look[ing] like he is best prepared to be commander in chief"
SUMMARY: During a panel discussion on America's Election HQ that included two former Bush administration officials but no progressives or Democrats, Ari Fleischer said Sen. John McCain's questioning of Gen. David Petraeus and U.S. Ambassador to Iraq Ryan Crocker showed "he had the best intuitive understanding of the issues." But no participant in the discussion noted that during his questioning of Petraeus, McCain asked of Al Qaeda in Iraq (AQ-I): "Certainly not an obscure sect of -- of the Shiites all -- overall?" In fact, AQ-I is a Sunni Muslim, not Shiite, group.
On the April 8 edition of Fox News' America's Election HQ, during a panel discussion that included two former Bush administration officials but no progressives or Democrats, former Bush White House press secretary Ari Fleischer lauded Sen. John McCain's questioning of Gen. David Petraeus and U.S. Ambassador to Iraq Ryan Crocker. Fleisher asserted, "I think there is a stature gap when you look at the three senators [McCain, and Sens. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama]. I think that Senator McCain by far looked like he is best prepared to be commander in chief, and that he had the best intuitive understanding of the issues." However, no one participating in the discussion, which was led by co-host Megyn Kelly and also included former Iraq Coalition Provisional Authority spokesman Dan Senor, pointed out that during his questioning of Petraeus, McCain again appeared to conflate Al Qaeda, a Sunni Muslim group, with Shiite Muslims, much less challenged Fleischer's broader assertion that McCain "by far looked like he was the best prepared to be commander in chief."
During the hearing, McCain asked Petraeus: "Do you still view Al Qaeda in Iraq as a major threat?" Petraeus replied: "It is still a major threat, though it is certainly not as major a threat as it was, say, 15 months ago." McCain then asked, "Certainly not an obscure sect of -- of the Shiites all -- overall --," prompting Petraeus to reply, "No," as McCain went on to finish his question: "or Sunnis or anybody else?"
As Media Matters for America has repeatedly documented, during a March 18 press conference in Amman, Jordan, and on the March 17 edition of Hugh Hewitt's nationally syndicated radio show, McCain similarly falsely claimed that predominantly Shiite Iran was training members of Al Qaeda -- which is Sunni -- for fighting in Iraq.
An April 9 New York Times article noted that "Mr. McCain did seem to get momentarily tangled over Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia. ... Senator McCain was embarrassed last month when, on a trip to Jordan, he stated several times that the Iranians were training Iraqi Qaeda operatives in Iran and then sending them back into Iraq. After one of his traveling companions, Mr. [Sen. Joe] Lieberman [I-CT], corrected him, Mr. McCain explained that he had meant to say that the Iranians, who are Shiites, were training other extremists."
From the April 8 edition of Fox News' America's Election HQ:
KELLY: All right, let me ask you quickly: Just observing the dynamics, Hillary Clinton cross-examining, John McCain, Barack Obama -- your thoughts?
FLEISCHER: Well, I think there's a stature gap when you look at the three senators. I think that Senator McCain by far looked like he was the best prepared to be commander in chief, and that he had the best intuitive understanding of the issues. I think Senator Obama here was kind of at a -- groping for words. He was nowhere near the normal eloquent Obama he usually is.
KELLY: And a lot of Republicans think that if we go forward into a general election with McCain on one side and Obama on the other, we'll see more of that, because their feeling is he's better on the stump than he is in a debate forum.















Sunni organization, MMfA, not Sunni Muslim.
But As a Huckabee supporter, I'll have to give MMfA a pass for that.
Go Huckabee!
I miss Gomer ;-)
Hey my Mom thinks Huckabee looks like that guy on the Campbell Soup commercial for their Select Soups [the one made with sea salt.]
And I agree!
He does kind of look like him, I agree.
I miss him too. I mostly miss his bass playing and his conversations with God by cell phone ;)
Holy crap, Jeter! You've got a lot of nerve accusing me of posting like a 6-year-old. By the way, how were the Lunchables today? Were you able to protect the borders like a big boy?
Gov, the adults on this forum can offer stuff like this, the kids [like you] are just annoying.
Now don't ask me Why? Why? Why?
Now go get your blankie & watch some cartoons.
Cartoons are for all ages!!!
As opposed to "shes a rich old white woman", or "hes a rich young black man"?
Hmm, who knew, I never would've thought Fleischer would opine that McCain looked more presidential than the democratic candidates. I bet he fooled a lot of other people with this as well, the unexpecting who'd never think a former republican spokesman would utter favorable compliments about the republican candidate
Yeah next we'll have Democrats claiming Obama or Hillary look more Presidential than Republican nominee McCain. Oh all this misinformation makes my head hurt ;-)
And if/when that happens it won't be an all-Dem panel. Media simply don't swing that way.
hunkalicious?
Hey Lynn did you come up with that word yourself? Actually I think both Obama or Hillary look & sound more Presidential than McCain.
The only Republican that could have been described as "looking Presidential" was probably Romney.
with shoulders you could land a plane on ;)
Go Huckabee!
Yeah & didn't Matthews also admire something about Romney's chin? Or was that one of his other man-crushes?
At least he stopped admiring packages after he was caught drooling over GW's.
No doubt FOx promotes the republican agenda. Nevertheless, the most biased and partisan program is not on FOX, but is on msnbc, the bastion for democratics and Obama supporters. That program is, of course, Countdown, with the biggest hack there is.
Exactly,
I guess some would like KO better if he brought conservatives on and set them up so they start out with a disadvantage (if your asking the questions it's not a debate) then talk over them incessantly and end by giving them the last word only to take that away. Then he could go around talking about how good of a debater he is. gotta love that format.
Or he could try to be fair about it. Bring on republicans instead of complaining from afar that they're the worst persons . . . . He's confident as hell when he knows his guests already agree with him, but he never has anyone on to challenge his rantings.
"So you're saying Republican's egos are so fragile that they can't handle a little joke at their own expense?"
scratch that, I read your post wrong.
You're right Steve, Olbermann is classless. Just last night he referred to Karl Rove as "turd blossom", what intellectual insight he offers, so impressed. Now I am no fan of Rove, but language like that belongs on the Daily Kos, or the HuffPo, not primetime cable.
Can you imagine the outrage here if O'Reilly used a term like that to describe some liberal?
"ou're right Steve, Olbermann is classless. Just last night he referred to Karl Rove as "turd blossom", what intellectual insight he offers, so impressed. Now I am no fan of Rove, but language like that belongs on the Daily Kos, or the HuffPo, not primetime cable."
Or the White House. You do know that that was President Bush's pet name for him, don't you?
so I'm curious, do you have any other examples of KO being shameless?
Dateline, 4/8/07, Countdown with Keith Olbermann;
Quoting Keith directly; "Nothing obscure about this; Racism as a Republican campaign plank"
Classless, as I said.
No racial implications?
"Rest assured," he told the crowd, "that men like Senator McCain will be the goal and the men that my two young boys will emulate and admire. You can have your Tiger Woods, we've got Senator McCain."
I got this from:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/08/mccain-speaker-have-your_n_95665.html
"Rest assured," he told the crowd, "that men like Senator McCain will be the goal and the men that my two young boys will emulate and admire. You can have your Tiger Woods, we've got Senator McCain."
I got this from:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/08/mccain-speaker-have-your_n_95665.html
Hey King,
A few years ago I caught a Black comedian I'm not sure who it was, but he did a whole routine about this. Has anybody seen this routine and know who the comedian was that did?
Worrier, Do you agree with Olbermann that racism is in the Republican platform? Because that is an example of a shameless remark that I was asked for by DB?
Hey King [or anyone] I missed this story. Just who called Obama Tiger Woods?
May I add [a tad off topic] I wish I could golf 1/8th as well as Mr. Woods
"I wish I could golf 1/8th as well as Mr. Woods"
So does half of the PGA tour! Don't feel bad.
McCain came up to the podium immediately after this introduction and hugged the speaker. He didn't distance himself from what was said. He didn't repudiate what the guy said. He thanked the guy and made his stump speech.
Taken out of context, it sounds like Olbermann was smearing the Republican Party but in context, what he said is nowhere near as bad as what he was commenting about.
If I were McCain, before I started to speak, I'd have taken the guy aside and said, I'm running for president of ALL of the people and what you said could be construed as racist. You and I fought beside and watched men and women of all colors bleed any die for this country. The media could have a field day if I don't acknowledge that you may have said something that we'll all regret, now do you want to add something to what you said before I speak?
Psssst....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turd_Blossom
Tommy, you do know that turd blossom is suposedly one of Bush's nicknames for Rove ?
Thomp,
Can you be serious? One program on MSNBC outdoes all of the Fox programs? One hour (or is it 30 minutes), in your opinion is worse than 24 hours on Fox?
What are your latest complaints with Olbermann? What has he done to be a "hack?"
Also, your comment on the McCain WSJ thread proved my point. Almost none of the position on McCain's official website have been held by McCain for more than an election cycle.
If you can point me to a show on MSNBC where there are panels with all Dems, I will see your point.
For some interesting reads on your candidate, click on the links in this article:
http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org/index.cfm/page/article/id/9559
thomp.steve, I realize Keith Olbemann has his fans, and he has those who hate him ( some posters here who really hate him), but I think it always comes off a little crazy to put him amd Fox on two sides of the scale.
Fox is essentially a 24/7 GOP ad, while KO has 5 hours' a week (I believe that's what his show is, an hour on weekdays).
No doubt FOx promotes the republican agenda. Nevertheless, the most biased and partisan program is not on FOX, but is on msnbc, the bastion for democratics and Obama supporters. That program is, of course, Countdown, with the biggest hack there is.
You are 100% percent right
McCain's so old he looks like Reagan.
And I mean like Reagan looks today.
(What? Too far?)
Too far & really sick.
But I laughed [don't tell anyone!]
McCain seems to be a one trick pony and commander-in-chief is that trick the GOP is presenting the american people with. Bring him on !
I agree with Ed Schultz that McCain will be the easiest Republican the Democrats have ever had to beat. You guys should be celebrating McCains nomination, it's a base on balls for your side. Now, if Hillary would just drop out you could get on with it...LOL
Again this obsession with the concept of a "commander in chief." As though it means he's the boss of everybody.
CiC is just ONE of a US President's many roles.
Stature gap um?
Is that in the middle east somewhere? Are we keeping it safe from AQ? (T, Islamofacistan).
Helmuth speaking for Boskone, in the Moca Java Straits, somewhere between Singapore and Sinatra.
I guess if you go by what all former presidents "looked" like to form your idea of what looks presidential McCain would be it. Another rich old white guy.
That is the best kind. They work hard for their money so they don't need to take from others through government force.