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During all-GOP Fox News panel, Fleischer touted "stature gap," McCain as "look[ing] like he is best prepared to be commander in chief"

April 09, 2008 3:49 pm ET

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SUMMARY: During a panel discussion on America's Election HQ that included two former Bush administration officials but no progressives or Democrats, Ari Fleischer said Sen. John McCain's questioning of Gen. David Petraeus and U.S. Ambassador to Iraq Ryan Crocker showed "he had the best intuitive understanding of the issues." But no participant in the discussion noted that during his questioning of Petraeus, McCain asked of Al Qaeda in Iraq (AQ-I): "Certainly not an obscure sect of -- of the Shiites all -- overall?" In fact, AQ-I is a Sunni Muslim, not Shiite, group.

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On the April 8 edition of Fox News' America's Election HQ, during a panel discussion that included two former Bush administration officials but no progressives or Democrats, former Bush White House press secretary Ari Fleischer lauded Sen. John McCain's questioning of Gen. David Petraeus and U.S. Ambassador to Iraq Ryan Crocker. Fleisher asserted, "I think there is a stature gap when you look at the three senators [McCain, and Sens. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama]. I think that Senator McCain by far looked like he is best prepared to be commander in chief, and that he had the best intuitive understanding of the issues." However, no one participating in the discussion, which was led by co-host Megyn Kelly and also included former Iraq Coalition Provisional Authority spokesman Dan Senor, pointed out that during his questioning of Petraeus, McCain again appeared to conflate Al Qaeda, a Sunni Muslim group, with Shiite Muslims, much less challenged Fleischer's broader assertion that McCain "by far looked like he was the best prepared to be commander in chief."

During the hearing, McCain asked Petraeus: "Do you still view Al Qaeda in Iraq as a major threat?" Petraeus replied: "It is still a major threat, though it is certainly not as major a threat as it was, say, 15 months ago." McCain then asked, "Certainly not an obscure sect of -- of the Shiites all -- overall --," prompting Petraeus to reply, "No," as McCain went on to finish his question: "or Sunnis or anybody else?"

As Media Matters for America has repeatedly documented, during a March 18 press conference in Amman, Jordan, and on the March 17 edition of Hugh Hewitt's nationally syndicated radio show, McCain similarly falsely claimed that predominantly Shiite Iran was training members of Al Qaeda -- which is Sunni -- for fighting in Iraq.

An April 9 New York Times article noted that "Mr. McCain did seem to get momentarily tangled over Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia. ... Senator McCain was embarrassed last month when, on a trip to Jordan, he stated several times that the Iranians were training Iraqi Qaeda operatives in Iran and then sending them back into Iraq. After one of his traveling companions, Mr. [Sen. Joe] Lieberman [I-CT], corrected him, Mr. McCain explained that he had meant to say that the Iranians, who are Shiites, were training other extremists."

From the April 8 edition of Fox News' America's Election HQ:

KELLY: All right, let me ask you quickly: Just observing the dynamics, Hillary Clinton cross-examining, John McCain, Barack Obama -- your thoughts?

FLEISCHER: Well, I think there's a stature gap when you look at the three senators. I think that Senator McCain by far looked like he was the best prepared to be commander in chief, and that he had the best intuitive understanding of the issues. I think Senator Obama here was kind of at a -- groping for words. He was nowhere near the normal eloquent Obama he usually is.

KELLY: And a lot of Republicans think that if we go forward into a general election with McCain on one side and Obama on the other, we'll see more of that, because their feeling is he's better on the stump than he is in a debate forum.

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    • Author by dbeden4153 (April 09, 2008 3:52 pm ET)
         

      Sunni organization, MMfA, not Sunni Muslim.

      But As a Huckabee supporter, I'll have to give MMfA a pass for that.

      Go Huckabee! 

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      • Author by jeter2 (April 09, 2008 3:54 pm ET)
           

        I miss Gomer ;-)

        Hey my Mom thinks Huckabee looks like that guy on the Campbell Soup commercial for their Select Soups [the one made with sea salt.]

        And I agree!

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        • Author by dbeden4153 (April 09, 2008 3:59 pm ET)
             

          He does kind of look like him, I agree.

          I miss him too.  I mostly miss his bass playing and his conversations with God by cell phone ;) 

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        • Author by Governor (April 09, 2008 4:12 pm ET)
             
          Hey my Mom thinks Huckabee looks like that guy on the Campbell Soup commercial

          Holy crap, Jeter!  You've got a lot of nerve accusing me of posting like a 6-year-old.  By the way, how were the Lunchables today?  Were you able to protect the borders like a big boy?
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          • Author by jeter2 (April 09, 2008 4:17 pm ET)
               

            Gov, the adults on this forum can offer stuff like this, the kids [like you] are just annoying.

            Now don't ask me Why? Why? Why?

            Now go get your blankie & watch some cartoons.

             

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      • Author by tex (April 09, 2008 4:54 pm ET)
           
        REPUBLICAN DICTIONARY: "Better Prepared" = he's an old, rich, white man.
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        • Author by Science101 (April 10, 2008 9:41 am ET)
             

          As opposed to "shes a rich old white woman", or "hes a rich young black man"?

           

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      • Author by socal7425 (April 09, 2008 8:22 pm ET)
           
        Wait a minute!  I hope MMFA is not suggesting that Fox is biased!
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    • Author by thomp.steve9098 (April 09, 2008 4:09 pm ET)
         

      Hmm, who knew, I never would've thought Fleischer would opine that McCain looked more presidential than the democratic candidates. I bet he fooled a lot of other people with this as well, the unexpecting who'd never think a former republican spokesman would utter favorable compliments about the republican candidate

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      • Author by jeter2 (April 09, 2008 4:14 pm ET)
           
        Yeah next we'll have Democrats claiming Obama or Hillary look more Presidential than Republican nominee McCain. Oh all this misinformation makes my head hurt ;-)
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        • Author by thomp.steve9098 (April 09, 2008 4:15 pm ET)
             
          luckily we have Media matters to expose Fleischer's duplicity
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        • Author by Governor (April 09, 2008 4:21 pm ET)
             

          Yeah next we'll have Democrats claiming Obama or Hillary look more Presidential than Republican nominee McCain. Oh all this misinformation makes my head hurt ;-)

           

          And if/when that happens it won't be an all-Dem panel.  Media simply don't swing that way.

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        • Author by Lynn (April 09, 2008 4:24 pm ET)
             
          Not only did Obama look more presidential but he had that added quality of looking hunkalicious:) Seriously though do we really expect these people to say anything differently then this. All HONEST Conservatives know that the sole existence of Fox is to advance Republicans period.  Which is fine with me as long as everybody knows that and I really think that most people know that now. Anyway they can have their Grandpa Munster and I’ll take Tiger Woods.
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          • Author by jeter2 (April 09, 2008 4:30 pm ET)
               

            hunkalicious?

            Hey Lynn did you come up with that word yourself? Actually I think both Obama or Hillary look & sound more Presidential than McCain.

            The only Republican that could have been described as "looking Presidential" was probably Romney. 

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            • Author by dbeden4153 (April 09, 2008 4:34 pm ET)
                 

              with shoulders you could land a plane on ;)

              Go Huckabee! 

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              • Author by jeter2 (April 09, 2008 4:41 pm ET)
                   

                Yeah & didn't Matthews also admire something about Romney's chin? Or was that one of his other man-crushes?

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                • Author by worrierking (April 09, 2008 4:44 pm ET)
                     
                  Your right Jeter, it was the manly chin and shoulders you could land a plane on. Or was it manly shoulders and a chin you could land a plane on.

                  At least he stopped admiring packages after he was caught drooling over GW's.
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                  • Author by jeter2 (April 09, 2008 4:50 pm ET)
                       
                    Yeah he started talking about getting tingles up [or down?] his leg when listening to Obama speak.
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            • Author by Lynn (April 09, 2008 5:30 pm ET)
                 
              I don't think so but I don't know exactly where I heard it. Beyonce had a song called Bootylicious maybe that's my unconcious inspiration?
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          • Author by thomp.steve9098 (April 09, 2008 4:31 pm ET)
               

            No doubt FOx promotes the republican agenda. Nevertheless, the most biased and partisan program is not on FOX, but is on msnbc, the bastion for democratics and Obama supporters. That program is, of course, Countdown, with the biggest hack there is. 

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            • Author by jeter2 (April 09, 2008 4:35 pm ET)
                 
              MSNBC has outfoxed FOX.
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              • Author by Governor (April 09, 2008 4:36 pm ET)
                   
                That does not make any sense.
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              • Author by thomp.steve9098 (April 09, 2008 4:37 pm ET)
                   
                at least KO did. Has he ever had a guest on who opposes his views?
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                • Author by dbeden4153 (April 09, 2008 4:38 pm ET)
                     
                  Does Chuck Hagel count?
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                  • Author by thomp.steve9098 (April 09, 2008 4:42 pm ET)
                       
                    Didn't see it. what kind of segment did he have him on for?  Did chuck and Keith see eye to eye on the issue? I never see KO actually debate anyone with an opposing take on anything. 
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                    • Author by dbeden4153 (April 09, 2008 4:49 pm ET)
                         
                      I don't really remember, I just remember he's been on the show...And yeah, he doesn't really debate anyone, but I don't think that's the format of his show.
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                      • Author by achrispage6992 (April 09, 2008 5:04 pm ET)
                           

                        Exactly,

                        I guess some would like KO better if he brought conservatives on and set them up so they start out with a disadvantage (if your asking the questions it's not a debate) then talk over them incessantly and end by giving them the last word only to take that away. Then he could go around talking about how good of a debater he is. gotta love that format.

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                        • Author by thomp.steve9098 (April 09, 2008 5:10 pm ET)
                             

                          Or he could try to be fair about it.  Bring on republicans instead of complaining from afar that they're the worst persons . . . . He's confident as hell when he knows his guests already agree with him, but he never has anyone on to challenge his rantings.

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                          • Author by dbeden4153 (April 09, 2008 5:13 pm ET)
                               
                            Maybe Republicans won't come on his show (except Chuck Hagel)?  Who knows.
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                            • Author by thomp.steve9098 (April 09, 2008 5:15 pm ET)
                                 
                              maybe, but I doubt that nobody who he's insulted would want to come on and face him.
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                              • Author by dbeden4153 (April 09, 2008 5:18 pm ET)
                                   
                                So you're saying Republican's egos are so fragile that they can't handle a little joke at their own expense?  I will admit I usually catch some of his show in the middle of doing chores around the house, and I haven't seen him say one thing about a Republican that wasn't true...I mean, his WPITW segments are hyperbole, but they usually reference this very site.
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                                • Author by dbeden4153 (April 09, 2008 5:19 pm ET)
                                     

                                  "So you're saying Republican's egos are so fragile that they can't handle a little joke at their own expense?"

                                  scratch that, I read your post wrong. 

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                                  • Author by thomp.steve9098 (April 09, 2008 5:22 pm ET)
                                       
                                    that's all right, I'm still not sure that I wrote it correctly, but think that you understood it the way I intended
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                              • Author by Lynn (April 09, 2008 5:42 pm ET)
                                   
                                I have always wondered why Liberals/Democrats even went on the Factor or Hannity's show. It always amazed me that anybody other than a wing nut could stand to be in their company. Now I understand it's because they have thicker skins than the average name calling winger. Thanks Thomp! I always learn something from my fellow posters.
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                    • Author by tommy (April 09, 2008 5:06 pm ET)
                         

                      You're right Steve, Olbermann is classless.  Just last night he referred to Karl Rove as "turd blossom", what intellectual insight he offers, so impressed.  Now I am no fan of Rove, but language like that belongs on the Daily Kos, or the HuffPo, not primetime cable.

                      Can you imagine the outrage here if O'Reilly used a term like that to describe some liberal? 

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                      • Author by dbeden4153 (April 09, 2008 5:09 pm ET)
                           

                        "ou're right Steve, Olbermann is classless.  Just last night he referred to Karl Rove as "turd blossom", what intellectual insight he offers, so impressed.  Now I am no fan of Rove, but language like that belongs on the Daily Kos, or the HuffPo, not primetime cable."

                        Or the White House.  You do know that that was President Bush's pet name for him, don't you? 

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                        • Author by tommy (April 09, 2008 5:17 pm ET)
                             
                          DB, I was not aware of that, thanks for the correction.
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                          • Author by dbeden4153 (April 09, 2008 5:20 pm ET)
                               

                            so I'm curious, do you have any other examples of KO being shameless?

                             

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                            • Author by tommy (April 09, 2008 5:28 pm ET)
                                 

                              Dateline, 4/8/07, Countdown with Keith Olbermann;

                              Quoting Keith directly; "Nothing obscure about this; Racism as a Republican campaign plank" 

                              Classless, as I said. 

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                              • Author by worrierking (April 09, 2008 5:43 pm ET)
                                   
                                Tommy, how would you describe the sergeant's comparing Obama to Tiger Woods?

                                No racial implications?
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                                • Author by thomp.steve9098 (April 09, 2008 5:48 pm ET)
                                     
                                  hey Worrier, I know that wasn't directed at me, but what exactly did the sergeant say. I caught only a clip of it this morning.  Did he actually call Obama Tiger Woods or something?
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                                  • Author by worrierking (April 09, 2008 5:55 pm ET)
                                       
                                    "Former Army Staff Sergeant David Bellavia, who introduced the Arizona senator at a Vets For Freedom rally, sought to contrast McCain's "lifetime of service to our nation" against the lack of resolve of his political opponents. And while he never addressed Obama by name, he did offer this nugget.

                                    "Rest assured," he told the crowd, "that men like Senator McCain will be the goal and the men that my two young boys will emulate and admire. You can have your Tiger Woods, we've got Senator McCain."

                                    I got this from:

                                    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/08/mccain-speaker-have-your_n_95665.html
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                                    • Author by tommy (April 09, 2008 6:01 pm ET)
                                         
                                      I will answer yours however, I think the person introducing McCain made a racially insulting remark, absolutely.  
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                                  • Author by worrierking (April 09, 2008 5:55 pm ET)
                                       
                                    "Former Army Staff Sergeant David Bellavia, who introduced the Arizona senator at a Vets For Freedom rally, sought to contrast McCain's "lifetime of service to our nation" against the lack of resolve of his political opponents. And while he never addressed Obama by name, he did offer this nugget.

                                    "Rest assured," he told the crowd, "that men like Senator McCain will be the goal and the men that my two young boys will emulate and admire. You can have your Tiger Woods, we've got Senator McCain."

                                    I got this from:

                                    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/08/mccain-speaker-have-your_n_95665.html
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                                    • Author by tommy (April 09, 2008 5:57 pm ET)
                                         
                                      Worrier, I was specifically asked for a shameless remark made by Olbermann, I answered.  You didn't answer my question however.
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                                • Author by Lynn (April 09, 2008 5:50 pm ET)
                                     

                                  Hey King,

                                  A few years ago I caught a Black comedian I'm not sure who it was, but he did a whole routine about this. Has anybody seen this routine and know who the comedian was that did?

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                                • Author by tommy (April 09, 2008 5:51 pm ET)
                                     

                                  Worrier, Do you agree with Olbermann that racism is in the Republican platform?  Because that is an example of a shameless remark that I was asked for by DB? 

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                                  • Author by dbeden4153 (April 09, 2008 5:53 pm ET)
                                       
                                    Tommy, I'd say it's not an official Republican platform, no, but it sure does feel like one sometimes...of course these days it feels like it's part of the Democratic platform as well.
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                                • Author by jeter2 (April 09, 2008 5:57 pm ET)
                                     

                                  Hey King [or anyone] I missed this story. Just who called Obama Tiger Woods?

                                  May I add [a tad off topic] I wish I could golf 1/8th as well as Mr. Woods

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                                  • Author by jeter2 (April 09, 2008 5:58 pm ET)
                                       
                                    Never mind King...I just saw your above post.
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                                  • Author by tmcc (April 09, 2008 7:34 pm ET)
                                       

                                    "I wish I could golf 1/8th as well as Mr. Woods"

                                    So does half of the PGA tour! Don't feel bad.

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                              • Author by dbeden4153 (April 09, 2008 5:48 pm ET)
                                   
                                I don't know that I'd call that classless Tommy, he was after all referring to someone saying "You can have your Tiger Woods.  We have Senator McCain."  I mean, I'd say that's pretty classless, interchanging one black guy for another, even though neither of them are fully black, and Tiger woods is sort of a World's tour of ethnicities.  Though classless is subjective I suppose.
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                                • Author by tommy (April 09, 2008 5:52 pm ET)
                                     
                                  Do you agree with Olbermann, or is his specifically saying that racism is in the Republican platform ok with you?  
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                                  • Author by dbeden4153 (April 09, 2008 5:55 pm ET)
                                       
                                    I'd say he was over the top with his remarks, and no, I don't agree with his assertion, but to call it classless?  I think that's a little over the top myself.
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                                    • Author by tommy (April 09, 2008 5:59 pm ET)
                                         
                                      We disagree.  I am sorry if a remark calling an entire political party racists is just not classless enough for you.  I will try harder next time.
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                              • Author by worrierking (April 09, 2008 6:46 pm ET)
                                   
                                The line you quoted was a bit over the top. It was used as a segue from one topic to the next which was about McCain's veiled racist introduction by one of his supporters. A vet who should have known to be a little less racially insensitive.

                                McCain came up to the podium immediately after this introduction and hugged the speaker. He didn't distance himself from what was said. He didn't repudiate what the guy said. He thanked the guy and made his stump speech.

                                Taken out of context, it sounds like Olbermann was smearing the Republican Party but in context, what he said is nowhere near as bad as what he was commenting about.

                                If I were McCain, before I started to speak, I'd have taken the guy aside and said, I'm running for president of ALL of the people and what you said could be construed as racist. You and I fought beside and watched men and women of all colors bleed any die for this country. The media could have a field day if I don't acknowledge that you may have said something that we'll all regret, now do you want to add something to what you said before I speak?
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                      • Author by Governor (April 09, 2008 5:09 pm ET)
                           

                        Psssst....

                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turd_Blossom 

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                      • Author by MoonbatYouBet (April 09, 2008 5:10 pm ET)
                           
                        Oh please tell me you're being silly here.  In case you aren't, the nickname of "turd blossom" was given to Rove originally by his good bussy George W. Bush.
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                      • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (April 09, 2008 5:12 pm ET)
                           

                        Tommy, you do know that turd blossom is suposedly one of Bush's nicknames for Rove ?

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                • Author by friedbergboy1422 (April 09, 2008 5:21 pm ET)
                     

                  Thomp,

                  Can you be serious?  One program on MSNBC outdoes all of the Fox programs?  One hour (or is it 30 minutes), in your opinion is worse than 24 hours on Fox?

                  What are your latest complaints with Olbermann?  What has he done to be a "hack?"

                  Also, your comment on the McCain WSJ thread proved my point.  Almost none of the position on McCain's official website have been held by McCain for more than an election cycle.

                  If you can point me to a show on MSNBC where there are panels with all Dems, I will see your point.

                  For some interesting reads on your candidate, click on the links in this article:

                  http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org/index.cfm/page/article/id/9559

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                  • Author by thomp.steve9098 (April 09, 2008 5:24 pm ET)
                       
                    didn't you already enlighten me with that link on the other thread. Don't think that I didn't appreciate there.
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                    • Author by friedbergboy1422 (April 09, 2008 5:28 pm ET)
                         
                      My fault, Thomp, I did.  Was just hoping for a response.
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                  • Author by dbeden4153 (April 09, 2008 5:28 pm ET)
                       
                    Keep in mind everyone, Countdown is not a panel type show...
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            • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (April 09, 2008 5:25 pm ET)
                 

              thomp.steve, I realize Keith Olbemann has his fans, and he has those who hate him ( some posters here who really hate him), but I think it always comes off a little crazy to put him amd Fox on two sides of the scale.

              Fox is essentially a 24/7 GOP ad, while KO has 5 hours' a week (I believe that's what his show is, an hour on weekdays).

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              • Author by thomp.steve9098 (April 09, 2008 5:28 pm ET)
                   
                I agree with both you and Fried that Fox overall is worse. However, I only catch the primetime shows on either channel, and at least BO and Hannity, although both shows are tilted, have opposing views on their programs.  KO leads a segment with his opinion on something, and then has on a guest who tells him he's right.
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                • Author by dbeden4153 (April 09, 2008 5:35 pm ET)
                     
                  ahh but those guests (Richard Wolffe, Chuck Todd) are political reporters, not pundits, like BO usually has on. At least he doesn't have body language experts on.
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            • Author by Lynn (April 09, 2008 5:28 pm ET)
                 
              I'll give you Keith as a promoter of progressive issues and  that's why I love him. So what I've got just one show to call my own. Seriously I don't think you can compare MSNBC to Fox. Would there be a liberal equivalent of Joe Scarborough or Tucker Carlson over at Fox? I don't think so, and I can't take Combs seriously. He's a weak interviewer and debater which is why he was chosen. The other folks that appear regularly on Fox that Republicans call Liberal are pretty middle of the road like Juan Williams. MSNBC overall is pretty middle of the road. Tucker's old show was very conservative, Joe's show is right of center; Dan Abraham's, Hard Ball, and Gregory’s new show are pretty middle of the road. Yes Keith's is very progressive, but conservatives have a whole freaking network dominated by wingers and you own radio. Why begrudge us one little freaking liberal show??? That's just selfish and I mean selfish.  

               

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            • Author by pointofview (April 10, 2008 3:30 pm ET)
                 

              No doubt FOx promotes the republican agenda. Nevertheless, the most biased and partisan program is not on FOX, but is on msnbc, the bastion for democratics and Obama supporters. That program is, of course, Countdown, with the biggest hack there is. 

               

              • - thomp.steve9098 / Wednesday April 9, 2008 4:31:39 PM

              You are 100% percent right

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            • Author by pointofview (April 10, 2008 3:34 pm ET)
                 
              you are 100% right.  KO is a hack.
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    • Author by deeznuts (April 09, 2008 4:12 pm ET)
         

      McCain's so old he looks like Reagan.

      And I mean like Reagan looks today.

      (What? Too far?)

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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (April 09, 2008 4:14 pm ET)
         

      McCain seems to be a one trick pony and commander-in-chief is that trick the GOP is presenting the american people with. Bring him on !

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      • Author by bruce1ace (April 09, 2008 5:51 pm ET)
           

        I agree with Ed Schultz that McCain will be the easiest Republican the Democrats have ever had to beat.  You guys should be celebrating McCains nomination, it's a base on balls for your side.  Now, if Hillary would just drop out you could get on with it...LOL

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    • Author by pithaughn (April 09, 2008 4:15 pm ET)
         
      Funny, on NPR, the exact opposite opinion was expressed, that Hilary and  obama were the most fluent in militaryese and had a deeper understanding of the complex situation in the mid east.
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      • Author by deeznuts (April 09, 2008 4:17 pm ET)
           
        That's certainly true if McCain can't get something as simple as Sunni and Shia straight.
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    • Author by deeznuts (April 09, 2008 4:16 pm ET)
         

      Again this obsession with the concept of a "commander in chief." As though it means he's the boss of everybody.

      CiC is just ONE of a US President's many roles.

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      • Author by wolf kotenberg (April 09, 2008 4:29 pm ET)
           
        George w Bush elevated that job to the forefront in this cycle by starting this war. He conflated a " war on ideas " with actual shooting war with armies wearing uniforms would battle each other. the description " war " is description of both events . Should have learned in Viet Nam -farmer by day-warrior at night. I am beginning to wonder they don't want Bin laden gone.
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    • Author by eweston8542983 (April 09, 2008 4:24 pm ET)
         

      Stature gap um?

      Is that in the middle east somewhere? Are we keeping it safe from AQ? (T, Islamofacistan).

      Helmuth speaking for Boskone, in the Moca Java Straits, somewhere between Singapore and Sinatra.

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    • Author by dazedandconfused26 (April 09, 2008 4:56 pm ET)
         

      I guess if you go by what all former presidents "looked" like to form your idea of what looks presidential McCain would be it. Another rich old white guy.

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      • Author by wolf kotenberg (April 09, 2008 5:38 pm ET)
           
        it wasn't that long agio they trumpeted Romney as looking presidential with square jaws and lovely face...ad nauseum
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      • Author by Treefiddy (April 09, 2008 6:22 pm ET)
           

        That is the best kind.  They work hard for their money so they don't need to take from others through government force.

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    • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (April 10, 2008 12:43 pm ET)
         
      I happen to like KEITH OLBEMANN. He sees a RIGHT WING NUT JOB and calls it what it is. Not too manny on tv today have the guts to do so.
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