Fox News' Smith on McCain's misstatements: "It's not as if he misspoke three times about the exact same thing" -- but he did
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SUMMARY: On Studio B, after Dan Gerstein noted that Sen. John McCain "confused Sunni and Shia," Shepard Smith asserted, "[I]t's not as if he misspoke three times about the exact same thing, about gunfire in Bosnia." In fact, McCain made the admittedly false claim that Iranian operatives were training Al Qaeda for fighting in Iraq three times over the course of two days.
During the April 14 edition of Fox News' Studio B, after Democratic strategist Dan Gerstein noted that Sen. John McCain "confused Sunni and Shia," host Shepard Smith asserted, "[I]t's not as if he misspoke three times about the exact same thing, about gunfire in Bosnia." In fact, as Media Matters for America has repeatedly documented, McCain made the admittedly false claim that Iranian operatives were training Al Qaeda for fighting in Iraq three times over the course of two days -- once on March 17 while being interviewed by nationally syndicated radio host Hugh Hewitt and twice during March 18 remarks to reporters in Amman, Jordan. In Jordan, McCain corrected himself after Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) whispered in his ear: "I'm sorry, the Iranians are training extremists, not al-Qaeda," and McCain's presidential campaign subsequently acknowledged the misstatement.
Moreover, as Media Matters further documented, during Gen. David Petraeus' April 8 hearing before the Senate Armed Services Committee, McCain asked Petraeus: "Do you still view Al Qaeda in Iraq as a major threat?" Petraeus replied: "It is still a major threat, though it is certainly not as major a threat as it was, say, 15 months ago." McCain then asked: "Certainly not an obscure sect of -- of the Shiites all -- overall --" Petraeus replied, "No," as McCain said: "or Sunnis or anybody else?" In fact, Al Qaeda in Iraq is a Sunni group, not a Shiite group.
From the April 14 edition of Fox News' Studio B with Shepard Smith:
GERSTEIN: John McCain -- again, I have a lot of respect for John McCain -- he confused Sunni and Shia. This is a guy who's supposedly an expert on national security and Middle East politics. So this idea that Obama --
SMITH: You can't make an argument that he misspoke?
GERSTEIN: He misspoke, just like -- wait, wait --
SMITH: It's not as if he -- it's not as if he misspoke three times about --
GERSTEIN: Actually, he did. He did it twice.
SMITH: -- the exact same thing, about gunfire in Bosnia. There's a big difference.
GERSTEIN: Well, that's true.
SMITH: And I bet he wouldn't take a six-shooter into a duck blind.
GERSTEIN: That's true. But again, it all goes to show that I think a lot of this stuff about who misspoke about what isn't relevant to people's lives. And ultimately, people are going to judge him based on their actions, their record, and what they're going to do for the American people.
SMITH: We shall see.
















Very true Tommy.
One person lies and is now going around smearing Obama and claiming she is a hunter. The other one is just old and senile.
Nothing tricky about a politician who fabricates, Colonel. It's pretty elementary, but maybe it's better it went over your head.
Hillary Clinton thanks you.
So, something was obvious to me, not to you, and that means it went over my head?
Nothing further, Tommy.Enjoy your day.
Still, Shep tried to smotth it all over as being just a mistake, yet Fox "News" often gives good talking head when Hillary and Barrak goof. The point here is that Fox "news" is not fair and balanced. If they were, they wouldn't have to sell it to morons during every commercial break.
Well, I am not voting for Fox News for president and their bias is hardly news......so I concentrate on the candidates who are asking for my vote and make my judgements based on them and their character, as I see it.
We all have our own standards.
Could somebody engage "therickster's" frontal cortex? You know, the part that gets sarcasm!
Could somebody engage ProudConservative's frontal cortex? You know, the part that gets TheRick's sarcasm ?
Sorry in PC's case it doesnt exist.
SMITH: And I bet he wouldn't take a six-shooter into a duck blind.
Oh Yeah, and anybody who has enough trouble processing two ideas at once (that's you, Shepherd) that this is a valid talking point probably shouldn't be allowed to drive a car or work as a commentator .
That's worse than Cheney shooting at crippled quail, isn't it?
What the hell is wrong with the way our politicians treat our disabled wild fowl?
SMITH: And I bet he wouldn't take a six-shooter into a duck blind.
He would if Dick Cheney was there..... :-)
Part of me believes that McCain should get a pass on his mistake, the other part of me believes that Republicans decided where to set the bar when they pounced on Obama for his "typical white person" remark and things Hillary said. If the shoe fits . . .
Day after day, after day.
It's a plain and simple case of John McCain not knowing the difference between Shiite and Shinola.
Oh, right, sorry for drifting off topic, Tommy....
I hate Clinton!!
What exactly was my contrary convoluted position, Colonel? Please explain.
I didn't think you knew what it was, either. Thanks for confirming it.
Ohhhhh, "and" ! I'm glad I checked back. "and". it all makes sense now.
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I hate Clinton!!
Of course, you're referring to Clinton Kelly - the gay guy on TLC's "What Not To Wear"...
Should have read "HE HAS" (not "Me has").
Well...they're all I-Racki turrists, aren't they? Do we want to support the troops or not? Do we want to win the war against the turrists or not? Kill'em all and let Allah sort'em out. <heavy sarcasm>
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And let's do it fast so we can start killing those I-Ranian turrists next... ;>)
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America-hating piker.
Exactly...and there's a segment of the population that could give a rat's arse whether we're fighting Sunnis, Shia, AlQaeda or whatever. They just want to keep killing them under the irrational belief that one day they'll all be dead or surrender.
. . .who live in small town America.
That's just a rumor. Many think there are no brains at all.
At least we have enough brains not to have to commute 45 minutes to an hour each day...
ps. I live in the township. ;-)
"...with even tinier brains."
...and their Thom McCann shoes ...and ignorant of a good latte' ;>)
SMITH: And I bet he wouldn't take a six-shooter into a duck blind
No...McCain would probably just bomb the poor ducks.
At least he wouldn't be risking our troops getting pecked.
DB, I heard it on the radio, and Obama was sort of riffing on Hillary. There were several different jabs (She's Annie Oakley/ She's in a duck blind/ she's got a six-shooter), but the am radio boys took two that were next to each other (the 6 shooter and the duck blind) and decided that Obama was saying pistols were used for duck hunting.
I couldn't vote for somebody that out of touch. If he existed.
oh ok, I thought it was something like that.
Yeah, I'm all for middle-aged women taking shots of Crown to be "one of the boys" because we need that example set for every wide-eyed 18 year old girl who just can't seem to fit in. Get drunk with a bunch of guys and you'll be popular too! I'm all for that.
But taking a six-shooter into a duck-blind is just beyond the pale.
What's with the wise cracker about persons of pallor?
(I plan on getting some UV rays tonight when I go behind the duck blind to mow the back 40.
GERSTEIN: "...John McCain -- he confused Sunni and Shia. ...I think a lot of this stuff about who misspoke about what isn't relevant to people's lives."
Threatening the lives of U.S. Troops in Iraq, who are attempting to provide some degree of Domestic Security to the new and "fledgling" democracy of Iraq, is something called an "insurgency", which is a thing that uses bombs and gunfire to create as much instability and lack of faith in that "fledgling" democracy as they can... and in doing this, of course this "insurgency" threatens the lives of U.S. Troops there, due (as I said) to their attempts to provide whatever Domestic Security they can, to this formerly(?) destabilized but now "fledgling" democracy, Iraq.
What John McCain has repeatedly demostrated is nothing so simple as merely confusing two Muslim sects, but instead he has demostrated a profound and dangerous ignorance of what it is that constitutes Iraq's "insurgency", and who it is that funds and equips and mans that "insurgency"...
And here we are not so much talking about religious sects, but about nations: Iran and saudi arabia, specifically.
It's not about confusing Shi'a and sunni, it's about being ignorant as to who it is (what nation) threatens Iraq's majority Shi'a "fledgling" democracy, and in so doing, threatens U.S. Troops in Iraq.
It's very relevant to people's lives... it's highly relavant to the lives of U.S. Troops in Iraq.
I'm waiting for the Neo Cons to apply the domino theory they used to use about Communism to Islam. Let one country go Communist and it will start a chain reaction till the whole world is.
Moslem, its the new Commie!
Nerzog,
Time to update your religious bigotry. In case your map doesn't show it, Israel already has a country. They don't have to reclaim anything.
Maybe you haven't noticed, but Israel pretty much gives back most of the territory it gains while defending itself.
Nerzog,
It seems obvious to me that McCain simply is using Hagee for his endorsement. (I do not care at all for Hagee and his own brand of religious bigotry either.) I don't think he has a 20 year record of supporting the Minister like some other candidate we all know.
I have no idea of the truthfullness of your claim about Hagee wanting Israel to return to it's Biblical boundaries because those boundaries changed over the thousand or so years between the time of Abraham and the Roman rule.
Why anyone would think McCain would listen to Hagee about anything is beyond me.
However I find it interesting that a Protestant preacher has more than a passing interest in the Jewish homeland. If you have any links backing up your point, I would appreciate it.
In Hagee's own words:
"God Himself entered into an elaborate blood covenant (which was eternal and unconditional) with Abraham. In this covenant God gave the Jews a biblical mandate to possess the land forever (see Gen. 15:8-21).
The boundaries of Israel were registered in the Word of God (see Gen. 15:18-21; Ezek. 47:13-48:1-29)."
http://www.charismamag.com/display.php?id=11822
Will McCan't be swayed by Hagee? Let's hope not.
Again, McCain did not confuse anything or make a mistake. In fact his statement is exactly the same as Hillary's in that both were straying from the truth in order to serve a personal agenda.
If that's true give McCain an Oscar for best actor. Because if that confused look on his face when Leiberman corrected him the first time was acting then Marlon Brando has nothing on John McCain. I dont think it's a calculated lie like Hillary's was, he just doesn't know any better.
I hadn't thought of that, you may have something there.
See, here's the thing.
Tommy was railing on about Hillary lying, and hey, she did. Has anyone on here tried to defend her on that piece of fluff she tossed out there about Bosnia? I don't remember seeing anyone do that, but of course, I don't read everything that gets posted on here.
Same as someone defending McCain on his "mis-speaking", ahem, lying. I know, I know, for Fox, IOKIYAR. Just drop the fair and balanced act.
Dazed,
Are you trolling for a date?
AA
I'm trolling for a president with a higher IQ than Forrest Gump.
Ahhh Life is like a box of chocolates... but you never know when someone else has put their thumb through the bottom of one of them Fannie May's... YIKES! .. forget it.. I'm gettting a Bill and Hill visual....
Mag,
I wasn't railing or defending either one. I simply pointed out their differences as I see them, everyone evaluates candidates based on all sorts of factors, and makes up their own minds on what they deem important regarding who they vote for, or against.
To each his own.
McCain has "misspoken" several times about the differences between Sunnis and Shi'ites, and yet the media still lets him retain his foreign policy credibility. But when Obama made one controversial remark he is taken out of context and called an "elitist." Give me a break, it's going to be more of the same in Washington if McCain gets elected. Check out Barack's clarification of his statements, I think he does a nice job of doing so.
http://campaigncircus.com/video_player.php?v=9116Seriously, you're just wrong.
It's easy to make broad sweeping generalizations. But go ahead and give an example, please. (I assure you that your "argument," if one even exists, will be destroyed in a nanosecond.)
Thanks for stopping by.
Since this site claims to monitor conservative voices, and I have seen every network mentioned on here except for Air America it leads me to think that the people here find everything to the right of Air America 'conservative'
QED
I'd like to see some links to non-partisan groups.
Meanwhile, none of that has any bearing on my response to your point.
Those networks do news? Terrible anaology there.
It would have been IF it were an analogy. It wasnt you said EVERY NETWORK, those are networks that havent been mentioned that would be an EXAMPLE not an analogy.
Bottom line: McCain either A.) knows absolutely nothing about Islam or the Middle East, B.) is indeed rapidly approaching senility, or C.) is a calculated liar, deliberately trying to muddy the waters about who "the enemy" is and why we're in Iraq, why Iran is "Evil," etc. etc.
(I mean, come on: 3 times?? Once in a Senate hearing questing the head of our military operations in IRAQ???)
If Option C, then he is quite simply Evil. Because these are lies that are causing the slaughter of innocent human beings.
Just as a simple test, some reporter needs to ask him: "Is Saudi Arabia a pre-dominantly Sunni or Shiia country?" And go from there....
(We never seem to bring up any longer the fact that probably 15 of the 19 hijackers on 9/11 were Saudis -- presumably because it's supposed to be common knowledge, but sometimes you gotta wonder.....)