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On MSNBC, A.B. Stoddard asserted that if McCain "did something even nakedly partisan now, we'd all have trouble seeing it that way"

April 16, 2008 3:51 pm ET

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SUMMARY: The Hill's A.B. Stoddard asserted of Sen. John McCain: "[H]e is seen as so nonpartisan, someone who has bucked his party so many times, if he did something even nakedly partisan now, we'd all have trouble seeing it that way." In fact, McCain has reversed his positions on numerous issues to align himself more closely with his party's base.

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On the April 16 edition of MSNBC Live, The Hill's A.B. Stoddard asserted of Sen. John McCain: "[H]e is seen as so nonpartisan, someone who has bucked his party so many times, if he did something even nakedly partisan now, we'd all have trouble seeing it that way." In fact, on numerous issues -- including taxes, immigration, and his view of the religious right -- McCain is not currently "buck[ing] his party" but rather has reversed his positions to align himself more closely with his party's base.

Indeed, The New York Times' Elisabeth Bumiller wrote in a March 3 article:

Senator John McCain likes to present himself as the candidate of the "Straight Talk Express" who does not pander to voters or change his positions with the political breeze. But the fine print of his record in the Senate indicates that he has been a lot less consistent on some of his signature issues than he has presented himself to be so far in his presidential campaign.

Mr. McCain, who derided his onetime Republican competitor Mitt Romney for his political mutability, has himself meandered over the years from position to position on some topics, particularly as he has tried to court the conservatives who have long distrusted him.

Bumiller noted that McCain has made a "striking turnaround ... on the Bush tax cuts, which he voted against twice but now wants to make permanent," and has "moved from his original position on immigration." Bumiller also noted that "McCain went so far at a debate at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in January to say that if his original proposal came to a vote on the Senate floor, he would not vote for it." She also wrote: "To the degree that he is shifting to the right, he is shoring up his standing among conservatives."

Earlier in the segment, speaking of McCain's appearance on the April 15 edition of MSNBC's Hardball, co-host Mika Brzezinski asserted: "John McCain sits there for an hour with [Hardball host] Chris Matthews looking kind of presidential." As Media Matters for America has noted, on the February 7 edition of Morning Joe, Brzezinski asked presidential historian Doris Kearns Goodwin: "[A]t this moment in history, isn't John McCain the perfect candidate to deal with what challenges we face as a country, and given the presidency that is just coming to a close right now?"

From the 9 a.m. ET hour of the April 16 edition of MSNBC Live:

BRZEZINSKI: Let's get right to Jonathan Capehart, editorial writer for The Washington Post, and A.B. Stoddard, associate editor and columnist with The Hill newspaper. Jonathan, I'll start with you. What's this -- is it a competition as to who -- what, who had more humble roots, or what's going on here, as John McCain sits there for an hour with Chris Matthews looking kind of presidential.

CAPEHART: Well, I think they're all trying to beat back the elitism charge. The Obama campaign wants it to be clear that Senator Obama and Michelle Obama are not people who come from families with silver spoons in their mouths, and I thought that clip of Michelle Obama is a great retort to the elitism charge.

BRZEZINSKI: Yeah.

CAPEHART: And on the flip side, you've got the Clinton people saying, you know, "We're not -- we're not elites either, you know. We left Arkansas and came to Washington with barely anything and left Washington with nothing. And this $109 million that we've been able to take in since leaving the White House in 2001 is, you know, gosh, aren't we lucky?"

BRZEZINSKI: I gotta tell you, it kind of seems like a silly argument. A.B., Clinton's lost 16 points, when we look at these polls, in her electability. Obama's up 20. She's down nine points as the stronger leader. He's up 10. But Clinton has a large -- she's got 43 points over Obama when it comes to experience. What do you think, when it comes down to the voting booth, what matters the most?

STODDARD: Well, we don't know because in all these contests preceding Pennsylvania, we've seen the electability-versus-change, electability-versus-trustworthy numbers bounce around so much that we're not clear on where those are going to take us. I mean, I think the trustworthy attribute is really a tricky one for her. These things are cumulative. You know, her advisers are upset because the Bosnia story, they feel, was really -- had such a strong impact on her numbers only because of all of her years in the White House. Well, that's -- that is the truth. I mean, if you look conversely at someone like John McCain, he is seen as so nonpartisan, someone who has bucked his party so many times, if he did something even nakedly partisan now, we'd all have trouble seeing it that way.

BRZEZINSKI: Yeah.

STODDARD: So for Hillary Clinton, this perception has dug in, and she's running out of time to reverse it.

BRZEZINSKI: And Jonathan, how much -- how difficult do you think it is to sort of read into these polls pertaining to how people answer versus how they may make a decision in the voting booth, especially pertaining to Pennsylvania?

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    • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (April 16, 2008 4:00 pm ET)
         
      That self-hypnosis course seems to be working out pretty well for our respected media.
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      • Author by dazedandconfused26 (April 16, 2008 4:28 pm ET)
           
        She is like a psychic predicting yesterdays lottery numbers today. Miss Cleo move over.
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        • Author by therick (April 16, 2008 4:39 pm ET)
             
          I bought one of those tickets, can't wait until yesterday when they'll pick the numbers.  I spent most of the winnings the day before.  Alas, there's always two weeks ago to look forward (er--backward?) to.
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    • Author by DEMS_SOL (April 16, 2008 4:02 pm ET)
         
      I'm sorry - but the words McCain and naked should never be used in the same sentence. :-}
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    • Author by thomp.steve9098 (April 16, 2008 4:48 pm ET)
         

      Just checked the website of investigative journalist, Matt Drudge (reportedly known to insiders as "Matt the Hat"), and he has a link posted to an LA Times story detailing how Obama caved in on the flag lapel "scandal."  anyone else think his compromise is disingenuous opportunism and pandering, seeking to atone for his fairly innocuous "bitter" remarks?

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      • Author by therick (April 16, 2008 4:52 pm ET)
           

        How do I know if it's believable, coming from Drudge?

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        • Author by thomp.steve9098 (April 16, 2008 4:55 pm ET)
             
          Because he's a highly-esteemed investigative journalist.  A professional 
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          • Author by therick (April 16, 2008 4:59 pm ET)
               
            You're kidding (aren't you?)
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            • Author by jeter2 (April 16, 2008 5:03 pm ET)
                 

              Rick I'm sure Thomp is kidding. The link about Obama & the flag pin is to the L.A. Times. It has nada to do with Drudge, other than a link on his website.

              I checked it out. The flag pin is there on Obama's lapel. I suppose one could say Obama caved to pressure. Who knows?

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              • Author by therick (April 16, 2008 5:06 pm ET)
                   

                As a Liberal, how can I vote for Obama now that he loves America?

                < snide sarcasm (not directed at Jeter) off >

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                • Author by mescal (April 17, 2008 4:01 am ET)
                     
                  Obama was handed the lapel pin by a disabled Viet Nam vet at a political event. He said... in essence... because YOU asked me too, I'll wear this time.
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          • Author by worrierking (April 16, 2008 5:01 pm ET)
               
            You've been practicing your routine, haven't you?

            If you ever take the act on the road, let me know if you're playing any clubs in Jersey.
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          • Author by solon (April 16, 2008 7:14 pm ET)
               
            Thats a joke right? Drudge? You are getting better with the satire
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            • Author by wzwriter (April 17, 2008 9:24 am ET)
                 

              Thats a joke right? Drudge? You are getting better with the satire

              That's almost as funnk as that PigBreath character posting a link to Free Republic yesterday to "prove" his argument.....

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      • Author by dazedandconfused26 (April 16, 2008 4:57 pm ET)
           

        "investigative journalist, Matt Drudge"

        Your kidding right?

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        • Author by therick (April 16, 2008 5:00 pm ET)
             
          HE WEARS A HAT ! ! !  WHAT MORE PROOF DO YOU WANT ?  :-)
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          • Author by thomp.steve9098 (April 16, 2008 5:05 pm ET)
               
            that's only because true investigative reporters have to be incognito (sp) at times, so sometimes he's been known to where the bowler hat. He knows all the tricks
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          • Author by mescal (April 17, 2008 4:07 am ET)
               
            For some strange reason, every time I see Drudge wearing a hat, I think of comprehensive sex education demonstrations.
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      • Author by Brabantio (April 16, 2008 6:32 pm ET)
           
        I don't know about "disingenuous".  Does it express some opinion he doesn't actually hold?  I love my country but I don't have a flag on my flagpole.  If there's some pressure or some gain to be had, then I might rig one up.  "Caving" and "pandering", yes, "disingenuous", I'm not sure I would say that.  It's damage control.
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    • Author by eweston8542983 (April 16, 2008 5:25 pm ET)
         

      I found a bug! And I will call him Jorge!

      OT, Lady, he's been doing nakely partisan things, and your not seeing them.

      FST line, "Foreward into the Past!!"

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    • Author by nerzog (April 16, 2008 5:27 pm ET)
         
      I heard Tucker Carlson make a similar statement a few weeks ago, and I fear that it may be true. The Press is married to the Mavericky John McCain fairy tale, and nothing will pry them loose from it.
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      • Author by dazedandconfused26 (April 16, 2008 5:35 pm ET)
           
        So Tucker Carlson is married to naked John McCain?
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        • Author by wzwriter (April 17, 2008 9:25 am ET)
             

          So Tucker Carlson is married to naked John McCain?

          And there goes YESTERDAY's lunch.....  :-)

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    • Author by steve k (April 16, 2008 5:47 pm ET)
         

      Let me try to get this straight.

      What Stoddard said amounted to this: "I've gotta admit: we're so completely fooled by the fake "maverick" image of McCain that we ourselves made up, that we have trouble seeing the reality." 

      How stupid are these people that they openly admit to their stupidity on TV?

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      • Author by dazedandconfused26 (April 16, 2008 5:49 pm ET)
           

        Good point, they did a report on the innaccuracy of their reporting. Smooth.

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    • Author by cArn (April 16, 2008 7:36 pm ET)
         

      I love my country but I don't have a flag on my flagpole.  If there's some pressure or some gain to be had, then I might rig one up.

      LOL. Flagpole. Pressure.

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      • Author by Brabantio (April 16, 2008 9:07 pm ET)
           
        Must have been some extremely unintentional humor on my part, but glad you enjoyed it nonetheless.
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    • Author by Kuato (April 16, 2008 9:22 pm ET)
         
      I see right through McCain.  I don't consider him a conservative no matter what he says.
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      • Author by therick (April 17, 2008 12:07 am ET)
           

        You'll recognize that he's conservative when he steals your last dollar and gives it to someone who makes $250K yr or more.

        Well, maybe you won't.

         

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      • Author by friedbergboy1422 (April 17, 2008 3:26 pm ET)
           

        Capitalist,

        Which policies is McCain not conservative enough for you on?  Which issues does McCain anger you the most on?

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    • Author by puttforever4682 (April 17, 2008 4:09 pm ET)
         
      That must be immigration reform.  Oops, McCain has already backtracked on that one.
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