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MSNBC's Brewer asked if attack ad against Obama is "a new way to get your ad covered without buying time" -- while giving ad free airtime

April 24, 2008 5:29 pm ET

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SUMMARY: On MSNBC Live, while airing video of a new ad that attacks Sen. Barack Obama, Contessa Brewer said, "Well, here's the catch: [Floyd] Brown [the ad's creator] does not have a single ad buy in any TV market. Instead of paying for airtime, he just announces this in a press release for outlets like YouTube to pick up." Brewer then asked, "[I]s this a new way to get your ad covered without buying any time?" -- apparently missing the irony of MSNBC's giving the ad free airtime while reporting that the producer was hoping for free publicity.

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On the April 24 edition of MSNBC Live, while airing video of a new ad that attacks Sen. Barack Obama, anchor Contessa Brewer said, "Well, here's the catch: [Floyd] Brown [the ad's creator] does not have a single ad buy in any TV market. Instead of paying for airtime, he just announces this in a press release for outlets like YouTube to pick up." Brewer then asked guest Craig Gordon, Newsday Washington bureau chief, "[I]s this a new way to get your ad covered without buying any time?" Brewer did not note the irony of her and MSNBC's giving the ad free airtime while reporting that the producer was hoping for free airtime, although Gordon made the point, saying: "[W]e're talking about it here today, so he probably accomplished what he hoped to accomplish." Earlier the same day on MSNBC Live, anchor Chris Jansing aired both audio and video of the advertisement, noting that "[t]he ad is only on YouTube, not running in any TV market."

Responding to Brewer's question, Gordon pointed out the very strategy being employed by the ad's producer: "It's actually one of the oldest tricks in politics, where you -- even sort of respectable campaigns will do this sometime -- where they'll announce an ad, they'll show the reporters, they will be very vague about how much money they're going to spend putting it on the air, we all write about it, you put it on your TV networks, and they've -- voilà -- they've got their ad out there. So it's actually kind of an old trick that folks use sometime. Obviously, it's a pretty controversial topic for an ad, and we're talking about it here today, so he probably accomplished what he hoped to accomplish." As Gordon spoke, MSNBC again aired video of the ad.

The advertisement was created by a group of conservative activists led by Brown, creator of the infamous Willie Horton ad, and attacks Obama over a 2001 vote he cast in the Illinois Senate in opposition to H.B. 1812, which would have, among other things, made defendants eligible for the death penalty for committing a murder in furtherance of the activities of an organized gang. The ad concludes by asking about Obama, "Can a man so weak in the war on gangs be trusted in the war on terror?" Reporting on the ad, Brewer stated: "A conservative third-party group led by infamous ad man Floyd Brown claims Senator Obama is weak on street gangs and will be just as easy with terrorists." But in highlighting Brown's attack ad and giving it free airtime, MSNBC failed both times to include the Obama campaign's response to the ad, including his rebuttal of the ad's claim regarding his legislative record addressing gang violence. Nor did MSNBC note the reasons that Obama gave at the time for his vote against H.B. 1812.

In a statement responding to the ad, the Obama campaign said: "Floyd Brown and the garbage he puts on TV represent everything the American people hate about politics, and we look forward to John McCain denouncing this shameful effort to boost his candidacy using Willie Horton ads."

During the 2001 debate on H.B. 1812 in the Illinois Senate, Obama said that making "gang activity" a new eligibility factor for the death penalty could be used as "a mechanism to target particular neighborhoods, particular individuals" and stated that the death penalty should be applied in a way that is "absolutely uniform across the board." Then-Gov. George H. Ryan, a Republican, vetoed the legislation, stating that it "was misdirected in light of existing laws, constitutional concerns and our past history of erroneously sentencing individuals to death."

Obama stated on the floor of the Illinois Senate on May 15, 2001:

What I'm concerned about is for us to single out, quote, unquote, "gang activity" as a -- as a standard that is different from activity involving other kinds of criminal conduct.

[...]

[W]hat I'm concerned about is that we use this term "gang activity" as a mechanism to target particular neighborhoods, particular individuals for, admittedly, heinous crimes that I think should be punished to the fullest extent of the law irrespective of where they happen and irrespective of the particular criminal body that they are working with.

Obama later said:

What I am concerned about is a particular and narrow concern, and that is, is that when we apply the ultimate penalty -- that's the death penalty -- that we make sure we are applying it in a uniform fashion across the board, that there's no -- no intimation, at any point, that one person who commits a terrible crime is going to get one treatment and another person who gets -- commits that same crime is going to get a less severe treatment.

[...]

I think that if we're going to apply the death penalty, we better make sure it's absolutely uniform across the board. That's the particular concern I've raised, and I want to make sure that it's in the record that my -- my objections are not to us trying to deal with the street gang problem on -- that -- that exists in Chicago and elsewhere -- in the State.

Additionally, an October 25, 2001, Chicago Tribune article reported:

But opponents say they fear the bill is still too broad and will result in an uneven application of punishment, depending on defendants' race and where they live.

"If a white youth in the suburbs commits a crime, you want the black youths in the housing projects to receive the same punishment for the same crime," said state Sen. Barack Obama, (D-Chicago).

The Tribune similarly reported on August 18, 2001:

But critics join Ryan in worrying that the measure is vague and that it may exacerbate the effect of capital punishment on racial and ethnic minorities.

"There's a strong overlap between gang affiliation and young men of color," said Sen. Barack Obama (D-Chicago). "I think it's problematic for them to be singled out as more likely to receive the death penalty for carrying out certain acts than are others who do the same thing."

Further, MSNBC did not note that Ryan vetoed the bill and that at the time, he asserted: "In fact, most gang-related murders would qualify for the imposition of the death penalty under existing eligibility factors in our death penalty statute." In his explanation for vetoing H.B. 1812, Ryan wrote:

While House Bill 1812 represents a well-meaning effort to address serious gang activity that results in a murder, I believe its efforts are misdirected in light of existing laws, constitutional concerns and our past history of erroneously sentencing individuals to death.

First, it is essential to recognize that most serious gang activity that results in murder is already covered by our existing death penalty statue. For example, a gang member committing murder while attempting or committing another serious felony offense is eligible for the death penalty.

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The addition of a blanket eligibility factor making someone eligible for the death penalty based merely on gang membership duplicates existing statutes, sweeps more broadly than is necessary and raises constitutional concerns.

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Furthermore, significant opposition to this legislation developed in the General Assembly because of the clear disparate impact this bill will have on minorities. Today, nearly 70% of those on death row are racial or ethnic minorities. Such disproportionate numbers have already raised due process and equal protection challenges to our existing capital punishment system. Moreover, as we continue to almost annually add eligibility factors to our death penalty statute, we introduce more arbitrariness and discretion and edge ever closer to our previous capital punishment system that was effectively held unconstitutional by the United States Supreme Court in 1972.

From the 11 a.m. ET hour of MSNBC Live on April 24:

BREWER: MSNBC is the place for politics. And conservative Republicans are on the attack. This time they have Barack Obama in the crosshairs. And it's gettin' dirty. A conservative third-party group led by infamous ad man Floyd Brown claims Senator Obama is weak on street gangs and will be just as easy with terrorists.

Well, here's the catch: Brown does not have a single ad buy in any TV market. Instead of paying for airtime, he just announces this in a press release for outlets like YouTube to pick up.

Let's bring in our journalist panel on this one. We have Jonathan Allen with CQPolitics.com. Craig Gordon, who's the Washington bureau chief for Newsday. OK, so, Craig, is this a new way to get your ad covered without buying any time?

GORDON: It's actually one of the oldest tricks in politics, where you -- even sort of respectable campaigns will do this sometime -- where they'll announce an ad, they'll show the reporters, they will be very vague about how much money they're going to spend putting it on the air, we all write about it, you put it on your TV networks, and they've -- voilà -- they've got their ad out there. So it's actually kind of an old trick that folks use sometime. Obviously, it's a pretty controversial topic for an ad, and we're talking about it here today, so he probably accomplished what he hoped to accomplish.

From the 9 a.m. ET hour of MSNBC Live on April 24:

JANSING: Conservative Republicans are attacking Barack Obama. A new ad turning heads today. It claims the Illinois senator is weak on gang violence. The ad is only on YouTube, not running in any TV market. Here's a clip.

NARRATOR [video clip]: A Chicago state senator named Barack Obama voted against expanding the death penalty for gang-related murders. When the time came to get tough, Obama chose to be weak. So the question is: Can a man so weak in the war on gangs be trusted in the war on terror?

JANSING: The Republican behind this ad is Floyd Brown. He is the conservative ad man who created the infamous Willie Horton ads back in 1988. Those ads also played to racial fears by portraying then-candidate Michael Dukakis as soft on crime. Let's bring in Mike Duncan, who is chairman of the Republican National Committee. Thanks very much for joining us. What do you think of this ad?

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    • Author by therick (April 24, 2008 5:34 pm ET)
         

      "The ad is only on YouTube, not running in any TV market."--Jansing

      She should have continued; "And here it is in it's entirety, live, on MSNBC"

      I think Keith needs to make her WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD!

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      • Author by jeter2 (April 24, 2008 5:54 pm ET)
           

        I think Keith needs to make her WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD!

        He can't, she's an MSNBC employee. You know the rules!

        Now if someone on FOX does this, I'm sure they'll make St. Keith's list.

        And folks here wonder why some here think Olbermann's a joke?

         

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        • Author by magnolialover (April 24, 2008 5:55 pm ET)
             
          Would you bite the hand that feeds you?
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          • Author by jeter2 (April 24, 2008 6:06 pm ET)
               

            Mag,

            Don't want to be accused of derailing this thread BUT, if a FOX host did this, Keith would feature it. If he can't or won't call his own buds at MSNBC out on this kind of stuff, then why bother calling anyone out?

            For example...How can he slam O'Reilly when Chris Matthews is just as bad?

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            • Author by therick (April 24, 2008 6:09 pm ET)
                 
              Oh, now, that's a stretch.  As much as I loath Tweety, he's no where near as bad as BO.
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              • Author by achrispage6992 (April 24, 2008 6:34 pm ET)
                   
                I agree. Terry McAuliffe seems to thinks so as well. He blatanly insinuated today ont he John Gibson radio show that Matthews is nothing more than a hack for Obama.
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                • Author by thomp.steve9098 (April 24, 2008 6:39 pm ET)
                     
                  As often said on here, everyone over at msnbc is in the tank for Obama. Only Buchanan and Scarborough pretend to like HC, and those two conservative hardly balance out the sycophantic Obama supporters over there
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                  • Author by tommy (April 24, 2008 6:43 pm ET)
                       

                    You don't see much "Keith" around here lately. I think he has become a hot potato with all his swipes at Hillary, his popularity in the offices here is probably taking quite a hit.  He gets an occasional bone, but nowhere near the love he once enjoyed from the Hillary proponents here. 

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              • Author by jeter2 (April 24, 2008 8:06 pm ET)
                   

                Oh, now, that's a stretch.  As much as I loath Tweety, he's no where near as bad as BO.

                Ha! Yeah Rick that's what you say now...but wait till the next Matthews thread where you all beat up on him like he's the scum of the earth. Sorta like you guys do to O'Reilly. Speaking of Billy-Boy, haven't heard much about him around these parts lately...odd.

                My point was IF St. Keith is gonna call out O'Reilly for being... oh let's say, a sexist pig, then Matthews, often called a sexist pig here, shouldn't go unscathed by Olbermann. Fair is fair.

                If Keith can't name all. He should name none.

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                • Author by therick (April 24, 2008 9:16 pm ET)
                     

                  I beat up on O'Reilly and Matthews when they deserve it--which is often.  And there are things that I don't like that KO does at times and I say so.  My wife pizzes me off at times too--and I tell her so (though not as often as she tells me) but, that doesn't mean that it's unjustified.

                  If I wasn't clear, I loathe Tweety, but O'Reilly would have to improve ten fold before I would loathe him.

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            • Author by pete592 (April 24, 2008 7:43 pm ET)
                 

              Keith made a jab at MSNBC for giving Skeletor air time, but he made it while giving her a WPITW award.

              Since Keith does paruse MMFA intently, I wouldn't put it past him to take a shot at MSNBC again in the same way, perhaps tacking it on to a WPITW award for Floyd Brown, but I doubt it will happen. 

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          • Author by therick (April 24, 2008 6:08 pm ET)
               
            Keith named himself WPITW twice that I remember.  That was kinda cool.  But you're right, he can't bite the hand that feeds him.
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        • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (April 24, 2008 9:21 pm ET)
             
          Jeter, watch out! Don't let Granny have to deck you for talking trash about her man. ;-)
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          • Author by jeter2 (April 25, 2008 3:05 pm ET)
               

            Pearlene I want you to know I have utmost love & respect for you despite your, um....Keith worship.

            Maybe if I ply you with wine [in a box of course] I can change your mind ;-)

            In the meantime, please don't deck me :-)

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      • Author by wzwriter (April 24, 2008 6:40 pm ET)
           

        "The ad is only on YouTube, not running in any TV market."--Jansing

        She should have continued; "And here it is in it's entirety, live, on MSNBC"

        It's also being discussed on every right-wing radio pukefest out there, too.

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    • Author by thomp.steve9098 (April 24, 2008 5:36 pm ET)
         
      I find it very hard to believe that she couldn't see the irony in what she was doing
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      • Author by jeter2 (April 24, 2008 5:56 pm ET)
           
        Ha! Probably not. But Obama better toughen up, this is just the tip of the iceberg :-O
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    • Author by magnolialover (April 24, 2008 5:54 pm ET)
         

      Hold on a minute.

      Weak on gang violence? Must mean he's a former gang banger, I mean, he is BLACK after all...

      This is what they're trying to imply with this ad. Let the Swiftboating continue.

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      • Author by thomp.steve9098 (April 24, 2008 6:04 pm ET)
           
        Not sure about that.  I've never seen a campaign, local, state or federal, where one side hasn't accused the other of being soft on crime. I don't know if I'd pull the race card over that.  Any criminal defense attorney who's run for office, no matter what the race, faces this BS. 
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        • Author by thomp.steve9098 (April 24, 2008 6:06 pm ET)
             
           I realize that BO's no criminal defense attorney, but I'm just saying it happens all the time
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    • Author by bruce1ace (April 24, 2008 6:01 pm ET)
         
      It sounds like Obama is actually not opposed to the death penalty if it can be administered fairly.
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      • Author by wzwriter (April 24, 2008 6:10 pm ET)
           

        It sounds like Obama is actually not opposed to the death penalty if it can be administered fairly.

        I'm in favor of the death penalty if it can be administered to Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, Michael Savage, James Dobson, Pat Robertson, Michael Reagan, Oliver North, G. Gordon Liddy, Laura ingraham, Ann Coulter, and Bill O'Reilly.  :-)

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        • Author by thomp.steve9098 (April 24, 2008 6:13 pm ET)
             
          yeah, but those good christian soldiers are all going to the pearly gates
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          • Author by wzwriter (April 24, 2008 6:16 pm ET)
               

            yeah, but those good christian soldiers are all going to the pearly gates

            Nope.  Jerry Falwell and D. James Kennedy are down in hell waiting for them right now.

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            • Author by therick (April 24, 2008 6:45 pm ET)
                 
              Let's throw a Liberal in there so we're not accused of being partison.  Alan Colmes would be my choice. 
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              • Author by wzwriter (April 24, 2008 6:49 pm ET)
                   

                Let's throw a Liberal in there so we're not accused of being partison.  Alan Colmes would be my choice. 

                Nah - he serves a purpose sometimes. I'd rather throw some second-string local right-wing losers on the list, such as Mike Rosen or Gunny Bob from Denver, or Mark Davis from Dallas.

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              • Author by deeznuts (April 24, 2008 10:50 pm ET)
                   

                Let's throw a Liberal in there so we're not accused of being partison. (sic)

                How about Hillary Clinton?

                Oh, wait. You said liberal.

                How about James Carville.

                No wait...damn...

                Um...

                Tell you what. They can have Ted Kennedy. 

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            • Author by pete592 (April 24, 2008 7:51 pm ET)
                 

              "Jerry Falwell and D. James Kennedy are down in hell waiting for them right now."

              They're also wondering why they got there, since they hated all the right people in the previous life. 

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              • Author by wzwriter (April 25, 2008 8:55 am ET)
                   

                They're also wondering why they got there, since they hated all the right people in the previous life. 

                Perhaps God is black, St. Peter is gay, and Mary Magdalene is a lesbian.....  :-)

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        • Author by dazedandconfused26 (April 24, 2008 6:30 pm ET)
             

          WZ,

          I'm sorry but your death list just wont work. You can't execut the mentally challenged.

          Wait, can we have the trials in Texas?

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          • Author by wzwriter (April 24, 2008 6:43 pm ET)
               

            You can't execut the mentally challenged.

            They don't execute the mentally channenged here in Texas, either.  They elect them governor....  :-)

            (DISCLAIMER:  I didn't get to Texas until 2006, so I never voted for Bush OR the idiot who's there now, Rick Perry.)

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            • Author by dazedandconfused26 (April 24, 2008 7:00 pm ET)
                 

              jeez wz, you even had to leave my typo in your quote. Misspelling "execute"

              I might almost be dumb enough to run for Governor of Texas.

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              • Author by therick (April 24, 2008 9:19 pm ET)
                   
                Anyone can be Gov of Texas, hell, we have proof that anyone can be Pres.
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      • Author by deeznuts (April 24, 2008 10:48 pm ET)
           

        He also favors lawful gun ownership (and, as a Constitution scholar, he actually understands the significance AND shortcomings of the 2nd Amendment).

        But you won't hear the wingnuts admit it. They'll just keep saying he's "the most liberal blah blah in the blah blah."

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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (April 24, 2008 6:14 pm ET)
         
      No Contessa, the ad was designed to get your pretty face in front of a TV camera....................
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    • Author by cArn (April 24, 2008 7:55 pm ET)
         
      The attack ad is nothing more than fresh poo-poo.
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    • Author by wesley (April 24, 2008 10:05 pm ET)
         

       -- What I'm concerned about is for us to single out...as a standard that is different from activity involving other kinds of criminal conduct...individuals for, admittedly, heinous crimes that I think should be punished to the fullest extent of the law irrespective of where they happen and irrespective of the particular criminal body that they are working with. -- Obama  

      Good for you Obama. That's why "hate crimes" legislation is utterly stupid. I expect you to support the repeal of all that garbage that clutters up our court system...crime is crime. 

       

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      • Author by solon (April 24, 2008 11:53 pm ET)
           

        A good point and I agree. I dont like the idea of criminalizing thought, which is basically what criminalizing the motive is.

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        • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (April 25, 2008 12:13 am ET)
             
          Fair point, Wesley. While I've seen some situations, real and hypothetical, where it made sense to increase penalties under "hat crime" standards, I think the concept is subject to a lot of abuse. It does sound like "thought crime", and I think the idea of it could be worked into more objective ways of differentiating crimes.
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          • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (April 25, 2008 12:14 am ET)
               
            Of course, I meant "hate crimes", although I have nothing against hats.
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            • Author by eweston8542983 (April 25, 2008 11:34 am ET)
                 
              Course not. Hats are of great value. Some people can't locate their heads without one.
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    • Author by newzhound (April 25, 2008 10:34 am ET)
         

      No, it isn't a new ploy.  Sheer Insannity did this against Sen. John Kerry, under the guise that it was news and deserved comment.  The obvious problem, of course, is that the right wing sockpuppets never run the ads opposing their chosen candidates "to give people a chance to respond."

       

       

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    • Author by interestingobserver (April 25, 2008 10:56 am ET)
         

      I'm confused...what's the problem here?  MSNBC reported on a story and showed the clip so the viewers could decide.  Isn't this what Media Matters does when they report on a particularly offensive comment by some conservative?  Can it be said that Media Matters is promoting that conservative when they show the particular clip in question?

      Must be a slow day over at MMFA hq's. 

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      • Author by nerzog (April 25, 2008 11:11 am ET)
           
        Does MMFA broadcast into millions of homes? Can I get that channel.... maybe to replace one of the multitude of Evangelical Troglodyte Church channels?
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        • Author by interestingobserver (April 25, 2008 3:04 pm ET)
             
          Ok, so if this website actually got substantial traffic, THEN posting clips of conservative rantings would be wrong.  Thanks for the intelligence Nerzog.
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    • Author by johnsnakecusak (April 25, 2008 4:27 pm ET)
         

      I'm a Hillary supporter, but this is just very typical of media coverage of the campaign thus far.

      You state that Contessa Brewer missed the irony of her reportage,  I would be willing to bet that Brewer's coverage was discussed and decided upon exactly because of the chance to help spread the RNC's message as a freebie to the party.

      There was no irony, it's all staged for the dopey public to digest.  Sarcasm in italics, </sarcasm>  We are getting shortchanged on MSNBC and most other media outlets.  

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