CNN's Bash, Roberts, and Phillips ignored Hagee's comments linking Hurricane Katrina to gay pride parade
SUMMARY: Reporting on a New Orleans campaign event at which Sen. John McCain's "carefully scripted imagery was interrupted by a voter's question about Pastor John Hagee," CNN's Dana Bash aired a clip of Hagee -- who has endorsed McCain -- saying of Hurricane Katrina, "What happened in New Orleans looked like the curse of God." But Bash did not air the portion of Hagee's comments in which he reaffirmed his previous assertion that Hurricane Katrina was at least in part the result of "sin" that Hagee identified as "a massive homosexual rally." CNN's John Roberts and Kyra Phillips similarly noted that Hagee said that "Katrina was God's punishment for sinful behavior in New Orleans" without mentioning that among the "sinful behavior" Hagee referenced was the gay pride parade.
In a report that first aired during the 4 p.m. ET hour of the April 24 edition of CNN's The Situation Room, CNN congressional correspondent Dana Bash said of Sen. John McCain's recent visit to New Orleans, "[H]is carefully scripted imagery was interrupted by a voter's question about Pastor John Hagee, who endorsed McCain and says things like this." Bash then aired an audio clip from the April 22 edition of Salem Radio Network's The Dennis Prager Show, in which Hagee said, "What happened in New Orleans looked like the curse of God." However, Bash did not air the portion of Hagee's comments in which he reaffirmed his previous assertion that Hurricane Katrina was at least in part the result of "sin" that Hagee identified as "a massive homosexual rally" that was scheduled in New Orleans that week. Similarly, during the 6 a.m. and 7 a.m. ET hours of CNN's American Morning on April 25, co-hosts John Roberts and Kyra Phillips, respectively, noted that Hagee said that "Katrina was God's punishment for sinful behavior in New Orleans" without noting that among the "sinful behavior" Hagee was referring to was the gay pride parade. Bash's report aired again during the 6 p.m. ET hour of The Situation Room on April 24, as well as on the April 24 edition of CNN's Lou Dobbs Tonight, the April 24 edition of CNN Election Center, and the April 26 and 27 editions of CNN's Lou Dobbs This Week.
By contrast, on the April 25 edition of CNN's Anderson Cooper 360, guest host John King noted: "Televangelist John Hagee, who has endorsed McCain, has said things like God punished New Orleans with Hurricane Katrina for -- in part -- for planning a gay pride parade."
As the blog Think Progress noted, after stating that "[w]hat happened in New Orleans looked like the curse of God," Hagee went on to have the following exchange with Prager:
PRAGER: The only question, and this is not a challenge as much as my own theological question to that, is this is really Dennis speaking, not you know, not some official questioner. But if that's the case so that would hold true for the earthquake and the tsunami, the earthquake in southern California, the tsunami that hit Indonesia. Is that, so is there any natural disaster that is not the result of sin?
HAGEE: Well, I'm not saying it's a result of sin, I'm saying it's a result of God's permissible will. You cannot say that everything on the Earth that happens is sin. It was carried in a newspaper that there was going to be a massive homosexual rally there the following Monday. Ah, but and I believe that homosexual marriage is sin and I believe that it's an abomination because Moses said it was. But it is wrong to say that every natural disaster is the result of sin. It is a result of God's permissive will, but who no man on Earth knows the mind of God...
PRAGER: Right, but in the case, did NPR get, is this quote correct though that in the case of New Orleans you do feel it was sin?
HAGEE: In the case of New Orleans, their plan to have that homosexual rally was sin. But it never happened. The rally never happened.
PRAGER: No, I understand.
HAGEE: It was scheduled that Monday.
PRAGER: No, I'm only trying to understand that in the case of New Orleans, you do feel that God's hand was in it because of a sinful city?
HAGEE: That it was a city that was planning a sinful conduct, yes.
Additionally, while simply airing Hagee's assertion that Hurricane Katrina "looked like the curse of God," Bash did not note that Hagee made that remark while defending his comments from the September 18, 2006, edition of National Public Radio's Fresh Air, in which he specifically cited the gay pride parade while asserting that "New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God, and they ... were recipients of the judgment of God for that":
HAGEE: All hurricanes are acts of God, because God controls the heavens. I believe that New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God, and they are -- were recipients of the judgment of God for that. The newspaper carried the story in our local area that was not carried nationally that there was to be a homosexual parade there on the Monday that the Katrina came. And the promise of that parade was that it was going to reach a level of sexuality never demonstrated before in any of the other Gay Pride parades. So I believe that the judgment of God is a very real thing. I know that there are people who demur from that, but I believe that the Bible teaches that when you violate the law of God, that God brings punishment sometimes before the day of judgment. And I believe that the Hurricane Katrina was, in fact, the judgment of God against the city of New Orleans.
As Boston Globe deputy national political editor Foon Rhee noted in an April 25 blog post, Hagee released an April 25 statement that said, "As a believing Christian, I see the hand of God in everything that happens here on earth, both the blessings and the curses ... But ultimately neither I nor any other person can know the mind of God concerning Hurricane Katrina. I should not have suggested otherwise. No matter what the cause of the storm, my heart goes out to all who suffered in this terrible tragedy. There but for the grace of God go any one of us."
As Media Matters for America noted, on the April 21 edition of NPR's Morning Edition, NPR news analyst Cokie Roberts asserted that on the April 20 edition of ABC's This Week, McCain said "it was a mistake to seek and accept" Hagee's endorsement. In fact, while McCain answered, "Oh, probably. Sure" when asked whether it was "a mistake to solicit and accept" Hagee's endorsement, he went on to say of Hagee: "I'm glad to have his endorsement."
From the April 24 edition of CNN's The Situation Room:
BASH: But his carefully scripted imagery was interrupted by a voter's question about Pastor John Hagee, who endorsed McCain and says things like this.
HAGEE [audio clip]: What happened in New Orleans looked like the curse of God.
McCAIN: When someone endorses me, that does not mean that I embrace their views.
BASH: And, on his bus, a dig at [Sen.] Barack Obama.
McCAIN: I didn't attend Pastor Hagee's church for 20 years. And there's a great deal of difference, in my view, between someone who endorses you and other circumstances.
[end video clip]
BASH: That, Wolf, despite McCain's emphatic promise to run an above-the-fray campaign.
From the 6a.m. hour of the April 25 edition of CNN's American Morning:
ROBERTS: John McCain is going to be in Little Rock, Arkansas, today. It's the final stop on what he called his listening tour. In New Orleans yesterday, McCain blasted the response to Hurricane Katrina by all levels of government calling it a, quote, "perfect storm of mismanagement." McCain also had to answer for accepting the endorsement of televangelist John Hagee, who has repeatedly said Katrina was God's punishment for sinful behavior in New Orleans. McCain called Reverend Hagee's comments, quote, "nonsense," but didn't reject his endorsement.
From the April 25 edition of CNN's American Morning:
PHILLIPS: John McCain will be in Little Rock, Arkansas, today, the final stop on what he called his listening tour. In New Orleans yesterday, McCain blasted the response to Hurricane Katrina by all levels of government, calling it "a perfect storm of management."
McCain also had to answer the accepting of the endorsement of televangelist John Hagee, who has repeatedly said that Katrina was God's punishment for sinful behavior in New Orleans.
McCAIN [video clip]: May I just say that when someone endorses me, that does not mean that I embrace their views; that means that they are supporting me.
PHILLIPS: McCain called Reverend Hagee's comments "nonsense," but didn't reject his endorsement.
From the April 25 edition of CNN's Anderson Cooper 360:
KING: Now, out of fairness, we should mention John McCain also has a bit of a pastor problem. Televangelist John Hagee, who has endorsed McCain, has said things like God punished New Orleans with Hurricane Katrina for -- in part -- for planning a gay pride parade.
Senator McCain yesterday in New Orleans repeatedly called those remarks "nonsense."
From the April 22 edition of Salem Radio Network's The Dennis Prager Show, as transcribed by Think Progress:
PRAGER: Now, they have you on Hurricane Katrina, quote, from NPR two double-o six: "All hurricanes are acts of God because God controls the heavens. I believe that New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God and they were recipients of the judgment of God for that." Go ahead.
HAGEE: Yes. The topic of that day was cursing and blessing. Moses taught in the book of Deuteronomy that everything in life is either a blessing or a curse. There are days that things happen that at the time look like a curse. In the passing of time, they may become what appears to be a blessing. An illustration is Joseph, when he was sold into slavery it looked like a curse, it looked like the worse day of his life. When his brothers came into Egypt looking for food, what looked like a bad day 13 years before turned out to be a blessed day. What happened in New Orleans looked like the curse of God, in time if New Orleans recovers and becomes the pristine city it can become it may in time be called a blessing. But at this time it's called a curse.
PRAGER: Right, but what you were saying and, I want to just make it clear that there is a divine hand in these natural acts and you see the divine hand in the hurricane that hit New Orleans.
HAGEE: If God is almighty and God is all powerful, God controls everything. If God does not control everything, he is not God. So the answer of that is yes.
PRAGER: Right. The only question, and this is not a challenge as much as my own theological question to that, is this is really Dennis speaking, not you know, not some official questioner. But if that's the case so that would hold true for the earthquake and the tsunami, the earthquake in southern California, the tsunami that hit Indonesia. Is that, so is there any natural disaster that is not the result of sin?
HAGEE: Well, I'm not saying it's a result of sin, I'm saying it's a result of God's permissible will. You cannot say that everything on the Earth that happens is sin. It was carried in a newspaper that there was going to be a massive homosexual rally there the following Monday. Ah, but and I believe that homosexual marriage is sin and I believe that it's an abomination because Moses said it was. But it is wrong to say that every natural disaster is the result of sin. It is a result of God's permissive will, but who no man on Earth knows the mind of God...
PRAGER: Right, but in the case, did NPR get, is this quote correct though that in the case of New Orleans you do feel it was sin?
HAGEE: In the case of New Orleans, their plan to have that homosexual rally was sin. But it never happened. The rally never happened.
PRAGER: No, I understand.
HAGEE: It was scheduled that Monday.
PRAGER: No, I'm only trying to understand that in the case of New Orleans, you do feel that God's hand was in it because of a sinful city?
HAGEE: That it was a city that was planning a sinful conduct, yes.
PRAGER: Ok, so that is the only I think, frankly, it's the only one they can get you on because people don't like to hear that sort of thing. But even so, I think that, I've always given religious people leeway, religious leaders on saying that we ourselves have sinned, and God has his own judgments. I mean the prophets used to do that, so that's you know, that's up to anybody to interpret the way they want. I mean, when the left says that we sin against the environment and we end up getting x or y, nobody says that that's illegitimate.
HAGEE: Well, I know that in our society, that is what I call politically correct, no one likes to hear that there is a God who has the power to correct man for his behavior that does not fall within the parameters of the word of God. That's why secular humanists hate the bible because it gives a definite standard of right and wrong. There's light and darkness, there's wheat and pears, there's sheep and goats. You can't be all things to all people. You either do live by the word of God or you don't live by the word of God. And there's nothing in between. And...and our secular permissive society, that's just a hateful idea.
PRAGER: Alright, I'm going to let you go, but...and I'm going to take calls that are coming in on this.















I don't see much to choose between, an undifferentiated hatred of the people of New Orleans. or a descrete hatred of the cities gay population and their friends.
If McNuggets takes it, Hagee's set to become the head of the newly created (So new it is entirely theoretical) Department of Homeland Peeping Tommery. Till his head explodes.
So if God was punishing New Orleans for wanting to have a gay pride parade........
What did southern Illinois do last week to deserve a 5.4 earthquake?
What did Suffolk, VA do to have the wrath of not one, not two, but three tornados yesterday?
Or how about those fires last year in San Diego?
Near as I can tell.... all these areas are heavily conservative......
Well Mr Hagee..... what say you?
Natural disasters or God's wrath? Pick one ya jackass!
I understand the fist banging done by the left here, MMFA included - if that damn conservative dominated media keeps at this Obama/Wright thing then by golly they better go tit for tat and harp on the McCain/Hagee thing too!
If that is the tone some of you would like to see this campaign embark on this fall should Obama be the nominee, then you will get what you "pay" for. And Obama will most likely lose and McCain will be your president, in my opinion.
Neither nutty Hagee or nutty Wright are running for office, their words are their own. However, people like Hagee and their twisted opinions have been running around political campaigns for decades, most of us are desensitized to their inflammatory rhetoric anymore, it's like "oh, again". It has far less impact on voter's minds than Wright, whose stupid comments are much more "new", at least to many people regarding their political ramificiations.
Wright is a fresh lightning rod, Hagee is a burned out blowback to Falwell and Robertson. The "fright" they illicit to many is not the same.
Just be careful what you wish for. Both of these pastors need to go back to their pulpits.
Oh my gawd....Katrina was brewed up by God because of the parade scheduled for the next Monday...God did a pre-emptive strike on New Orleans so the parade wouldn't happen.
Scarier yet, Pres. Cheney launched a pre-emptive strike on Iraq BEFORE they could acquire nuclear weapons. ConLogic will see this as God following in the footsteps of this Administration so the Iraq war is justified by God.
Now Wookie, don't be cruel...even though you forgot to add Jeff Gannons' late night visits to the White House. Not that anything happened.
I wish someone could look at Goofy Hagees' family and see if any of his relatives happen to be gay. Anyone know how Dick Cheney feels about this nut case?
Wow, Prager really lays into Hagee--
"...and this is not a challenge as much as my own theological question to that, is this is really Dennis speaking, not you know, not some official questioner."
I've noticed that Prager considers himself an "official questioner" when non-right-wing-nuts are on his show.
Oh well, at least Hagee didn't say something hateful and divisive, like America should be held accountable , maybe even deserving of damnation,for its past treatment of gays and other minorities. That would be anti-American hate speech.
even though you forgot to add Jeff Gannons' late night visits to the White House. Not that anything happened.
Don't forget George and Condi are sleeping......... oh nevermind.... the image alone is to much to consider.... but I am just saying and have no intention to further unsubstantiated rumors....... :)
Anyone seen this Hagee guy in person or on TV??
He appears to be a walking embodiment of at least three of the seven deadly sins ...
Hold on here, let me get this point of Theology straight: The LORD dumped a Great Lake's worth of rainfall on New Orleans, so as to "rain out" (or flood right off the streets) a scheduled Gay Pride Parade?
Never mind Theology, this is important to Meteorlogy, as a previously unknown cause and effect relationship, of an invaluable importance...
We get dry stretches of season in my part of the country, and it's no good for the crops and it drops the water table down to where my town puts up roadsigns announcing that "Water Ban Is In Effect" (which means stop watering your lawn, and don't even think about washing your car with the hose, in your driveway).
Now, we don't exactly seek an ocean's worth of rain to be dumped on us LORD (and maybe have us climbing up on the roofs of our houses, to keep from being swept away in the flood), and so we won't invite exactly that, by having a Gay Pride Parade LORD... but about 2 inches of rainfall in a 24 hour period wouldn't drown anyone around here, or put us up on our rooftops, and yet that would do the trick nicely, during those awful stretches of dry season You give us at least once a year LORD...
What would it take for just 2 inches of rain in a 24 hour period (if it was a Great Lake's worth of the stuff You dumped on New Orleans, for scheduling a Gay Pride Parade)...
Maybe if we all act a little swishy, and schedule a few musicals this summer, at the regional Playhouse?
No, that's probably not enough to do more than just a little drizzle... for a good day's worth of heavy rainfall, we'll probably at least have to get the Villiage People to perform here this summer, wouldn't we LORD?
it was a mistake to seek and accept" Hagee's endorsement. In fact, while McCain answered, "Oh, probably. Sure" when asked whether it was "a mistake to solicit and accept" Hagee's endorsement, he went on to say of Hagee: "I'm glad to have his endorsement."
And he gets a pass for this stupidity?Wow, are we grading on a curve or what?
Let's face it, Gramps can't remember what he had for breakfast today let alone any comment he made about Hagee.
80% of the people say we're on the "wrong track" yet 50% support McCain (more of the "wrong track"). I guess fear is the strongest emotion after all, even if it is irrational fear.
Wow, are we grading on a curve or what?
No. we're grading on a flat line.
Gramps' EEG.
several similar religious idiots made the same remarks. "Sin" is always on their minds.
Gawd-uh will judge ya'lls fer yo sinfull ways. Who the hell knows what Gawd wants? Do these self-styled judges of behavior have any proof of the Almighty's thoughts? NO!
Preachers have bluffed their way into the pocketbooks of the uncritical for thousands of years. Fear, punishment, condemnation, and everlasting suffering in eternal hell is the sword hanging over the gullible. But, "He loves you!" Better an indifferent parent than one who "loves" me. Sick!
As for The Hut's asinine pronouncements about New Orleans..... what a dick. The Troglodytes are wringing their hands about Rev. Wright, breathlessly wondering if he'll become an advisor to a President Obama. Well, I'm a hell of a lot more worried about a delusional warmongering dunce like Hagee having the ear of a President McCain. You think McCain won't owe some favors to the Evangelical Troglodytes for their support?
You think McCain won't owe some favors to the Evangelical Troglodytes for their support?
I'm very glad that Jerry Falwell did not survive long enough to advise Gramps McCain.
There is no real bitter end to your disrespect is there? A few days ago it was on another thread dissing those suffering from Alzheimer's disease, now it's celebrating the death of someone you didn't like.
And you claim I bring nothing to the table, thank god I am not at your table.
Tommy-
Generally, to earn respect in this society, you must also be respectful towards others. Jerry Falwell was not worthy of the respect of decent human beings.
Kyle,
I was no fan of Falwell, and when the man was alive he was fair game for criticism, he could answer and speak for himself. However, in my opinion, it is incredibly disrespectful to speak ill of the dead. No matter how one felt about them when they were alive. It shows no class, better to say nothing. It's just sleazy, sorry.
it is incredibly disrespectful to speak ill of the dead
OK, Hitler was sort of a nice guy. Same with that Pol Pot fellow too.
Hey, if Falwell lived his life hating people, I find no problem hating him in death.
"You think McCain won't owe some favors to the Evangelical Troglodytes for their support?"
Actually, no. Bush used these people to get elected, then basically ignored them for the rest of his terms. Sure he half-heartedly tried to ban gay marriage, but that's about the only thing he's done to try to appease that part of his base.
Oh, and Terry Schiavo.
"You think McCain won't owe some favors to the Evangelical Troglodytes for their support?"
Actually, no. Bush used these people to get elected, then basically ignored them for the rest of his terms. Sure he half-heartedly tried to ban gay marriage, but that's about the only thing he's done to try to appease that part of his base.
Oh, and Terry Schiavo.
Interesting that you mentioned George W. Bush and Terry Schiavo in the same post. They both lived for many years in a persistent vegetative state.....
:-)
Pastor Hagee revealed the truth to John McCain and now he wants to rebuild Sodom and Gomorrah , how dare he challenge gods work of destroying that SINFUL city New orleans .
What's next John McCain , special funding for their gay pride parade or maybe he can get FEMA to send some Gayologists to resurrect what got away from gods punishment . It's obvious McCain is sift on SIN .
In the years after his wife died, Menachim Begin became a recluse, holed up in his apartment in Jerusalem. as he heared death, he only permitted his family to visit him, except for one person. that was jerry falwell.
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>>In the years after his wife died, Menachim Begin became a recluse, holed up in his apartment in Jerusalem. as he heared death, he only permitted his family to visit him, except for one person. that was jerry falwell.
Yikes! That is scary. Talk about a connection between Likudinites and fundamentalist Christians. I had never heard this before, so just for curiosity, what is your source?