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Wash. Post, WSJ editorial pages urged release of tax returns by Teresa Heinz Kerry, but have yet to call for Cindy McCain's

May 05, 2008 2:52 pm ET

SUMMARY: In 2004, the editorial pages of The Washington Post and The Wall Street Journal called on Teresa Heinz Kerry to release her tax returns. But both have yet to call on Sen. John McCain's campaign to release Cindy McCain's tax returns or even note that the campaign has refused to do so.

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During the 2004 presidential campaign, the editorial pages of The Washington Post and The Wall Street Journal called on Sen. John Kerry's wife, Teresa Heinz Kerry, to release her tax returns, with The Wall Street Journal citing the role Heinz Kerry's wealth purportedly played in her husband's presidential campaign. But according to a Media Matters for America search of editorials since January 1,* the Post and Journal have yet to call for the release of Cindy McCain's tax returns, despite the role her personal fortune has reportedly played in the presidential campaign of her husband, Sen. John McCain.

Additionally, while The Washington Times called on Cindy McCain to release her tax returns in March, it has not revisited the subject since the McCain campaign made clear that she would not do so. In a March 21 editorial, the Times asserted that Cindy McCain's "holdings are no doubt both extensive and inseparable from Mr. McCain's own personal and political fortunes. ... What do we know about the Clintons and the McCains? Neither couple has done the proper thing. Both need to disclose." During the 2004 presidential campaign, the Times called on Heinz Kerry to release her tax returns in editorials on July 27, 2004, and August 5, 2004.

In an April 27 New York Times article, Barry Meier and Margot Williams reported that McCain's campaign used a corporate jet owned by his wife's company, Hensley & Co., "over a seven-month period beginning last summer" and that "[f]or five of those months, the plane was used almost exclusively for campaign-related purposes." Meier and Williams added that "McCain's campaign was able to use his wife's corporate plane like a charter jet while paying first-class rates, several campaign finance experts said. Several of those experts, however, added that his campaign's actions, while keeping with the letter of law, did not reflect its spirit."

On April 18, the McCain campaign released John McCain's 2006 and 2007 income tax returns, but not Cindy McCain's separate returns. As part of John McCain's tax returns, the campaign released the "Wages and Salaries" that Cindy McCain received in 2006 and 2007 as chair of Hensley & Co., the McCains' share of interest income from a bank account, and their shares of income from John McCain's book royalties. But the information did not reveal the capital gains income, if any, for Cindy McCain from that period. The campaign stated: "In the interest of protecting the privacy of her children, Mrs. McCain will not be releasing her personal tax returns." The New York Times reported that "Mrs. McCain, who has a significant stake in a beer distributorship in Phoenix that her late father helped found, is far wealthier than her husband. The company is valued at $100 million or more, published estimates say."

Unlike Cindy McCain, Heinz Kerry did release what The New York Times reported on October 16, 2004, was a "two-page document" showing "total income of $5,073,554 last year" that enabled the Times to determine how much she had benefited from the Bush tax cuts, which John McCain supports extending permanently. An analysis of how the McCains have benefited from the tax cuts is not possible, based on the information his campaign has released on Cindy McCain's income.

In contrast with the Post and Journal, The New York Times asserted in a May 4 editorial that "[t]here is no question that Mr. McCain benefits from his wife's money" and that "Mrs. McCain, the daughter of a multimillionaire Anheuser-Busch distributor, is not the candidate, but the need to gain public trust and to air potential conflicts of interest is vital." From the May 4 editorial:

Last month, Mr. McCain released two years' tax returns. That is better than none. But it has long been the practice for general election presidential candidates to release tax filings going back a lot further, and Senator Barack Obama has done just that.

The portrait of Mr. McCain's finances is particularly skimpy because his wife, Cindy McCain, has chosen not to make her separate tax returns available. Mrs. McCain, the daughter of a multimillionaire Anheuser-Busch distributor, is not the candidate, but the need to gain public trust and to air potential conflicts of interest is vital. Four years ago, we urged Teresa Heinz Kerry, the wealthy wife of the 2004 Democratic nominee, to release her tax returns.

There is no question that Mr. McCain benefits from his wife's money, including his low-cost use during the campaign of a corporate jet owned by a company headed by Mrs. McCain.

From the May 4, 2004, Washington Post editorial:

Teresa Heinz Kerry, wife of the putative Democratic presidential nominee, should make her tax returns public. Ms. Heinz Kerry has been reluctant to do so; campaign spokesman Michael Meehan now says she is preparing to make summary information available, though not necessarily her return itself. That's an improvement over no disclosure, but it is short of what ought to be done.

Presidential candidates aren't legally required to release their tax returns, but such disclosure has become an expected part of seeking the office, and rightly so. The wrinkle for the Kerrys is that, unlike most political couples, the candidate and his wife, who inherited a fortune from her first husband, the late Sen. John Heinz (R-Pa.), file separate returns. [...] Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) has made his returns public for years, but his wife has been reluctant to follow suit.

[...]

We're sympathetic to the feeling of intrusion that releasing tax returns entails, but candidates for president -- and their spouses -- necessarily relinquish a significant measure of privacy. Meanwhile, tax returns provide information not contained in financial disclosure forms, such as charitable contributions and the use of tax shelters.

From The Wall Street Journal July 1, 2004, editorial:

[I]t's past time for his wife, Teresa Heinz Kerry, to release her full filings with the IRS.

[...]

Given Mrs. Heinz Kerry's fortune, estimated by the Los Angeles Times at between $900 million and $3.2 billion, it's unlikely she is doing anything unethical to raise the money for a mortgage, like the Clintons. But the Heinz fortune has already played a key role in financing Senator Kerry's political ambitions.

When his primary campaign was running out of cash last year, Mr. Kerry mortgaged his half of the couple's Beacon Hill house for $6.4 million.

[...]

The Kerrys would be the richest couple ever to live in the White House, and with wealth comes responsibility. Their assets should be disclosed to the voters so that they can assess whether there are any potential conflicts of interest. Since the Kerry campaign is proposing to raise tax rates on the upper middle class, most people would probably like to know whether the Kerry household uses tax-avoidance techniques to avoid paying its "fair share."

From the July 27, 2004, Washington Times editorial (retrieved from the Nexis news database):

In recent decades, voters have rightly expected the presidential and vice presidential nominees to disclose their tax returns, including the tax returns of their spouses, if they were filed separately. Indeed, there is precedent. Twenty years ago, John Zaccaro, husband of Democratic vice presidential nominee Geraldine Ferraro, yielded to public pressure and disclosed his separately filed income-tax returns. Prior and subsequent to Mr. Zaccaro's financial disclosures, there was no indication that his personal wealth had been used to regularly resurrect his wife's political career. Today, why should the tax returns of Mr. Kerry's wealthy wife remain under wraps, particularly since he has clearly exploited his wife's wealth for his political advantage?

From the August 5, 2004, Washington Times editorial (from Nexis):

The time has long past for Teresa Heinz Kerry to end the free ride she has been enjoying ever since she used her immense inherited wealth for the second time in less than eight years to resuscitate her husband's faltering political career. She needs to reveal the details of her finances, which Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry has deftly exploited to his maximum political benefit -- first during his tightly contested 1996 Senate race and then during this year's Democratic presidential primaries and caucuses.

*Search terms in Nexis: publication (Washington Post OR Washington Times) AND section (editor!) AND McCain AND tax! between January 1, 2008 and May 5, 2008

Search terms in Factiva: The Wall Street Journal AND McCain AND tax! AND review and outlook between January 1, 2008 and May 5, 2008

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    • Author by IRONY 101 (May 05, 2008 3:01 pm ET)
         
      I didn't know that robots were required to file tax returns...  ;>)
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      • Author by worrierking (May 05, 2008 3:04 pm ET)
           
        That was low Irony.

        But funny as hell.
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        • Author by princeofwheels (May 05, 2008 3:24 pm ET)
             

          New movie coming out..."The Stepford First-Wives" starring Nicole Kidman as Mrs. McCain, co-starring Wilford Brimley as Sen. John McCain.

          My question is: Mrs. McCain doesn't want her finances out there because of her childrens safety or something like that. These "kids" have to be adults and is it such a big secret that being the Chairwoman of a company like her daddys' doesn't equate into big bucks. Who is she kidding?

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          • Author by open_mind (May 05, 2008 7:05 pm ET)
               
            Does anyone else remember how much fun the Foxnews crowd had calling Kerry a "golddigger" for marrying a wealthy woman?  I wonder why they don't say the same about McCain.  It is good for McCain he isn't a Democrat or else he would be attacked mindlessly.
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            • Author by mikerhyner8202 (May 06, 2008 1:53 am ET)
                 
              Please state the source material for all to read.
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              • Author by dbeden4153 (May 06, 2008 10:32 am ET)
                   

                While finding the original source material is proving difficult, here's a mention of it in Malkin's hot air blog:

                http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/07/nyt-on-fred-is-america-ready-for-a-president-with-a-trophy-wife/

                Right under the first gray box.  

                I highly doubt both ALLAHPUNDIT and OPEN_MIND are imagining that that happened. 

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                • Author by mikerhyner8202 (May 07, 2008 12:42 am ET)
                     

                  Your source does not call him a gold-digger...did you read it? It is an article about Fred Thompsons wife and equalizes calling her a trophy wife is the same as calling Kerry a gold-digger.

                   Very far from "Fox News" branding him the Gold-Digger as previously stated.

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                  • Author by NiceguyEddie (May 07, 2008 9:08 am ET)
                       
                    Well, I can't site the original soucre either, but I do remember something along those lines being said.
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              • Author by open_mind (May 06, 2008 1:55 pm ET)
                   

                First of all, I was wondering if anyone else remembered that.  I am not claiming my memory is perfect. 

                Secondly, I should point out for clarity that the "foxnews crowd" actually means Republicans in general.  I remember this meme coming from many places, not just Fox.  So far, I have found several comments all over the net to that effect, but here is one example by Howie Carr:  http://www.davidstuff.com/incorrect/carr1.htm

                 

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                • Author by mikerhyner8202 (May 07, 2008 12:36 am ET)
                     
                  A radio host's caller stating this term is far from the media doing it.
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            • Author by jmh (May 06, 2008 7:01 pm ET)
                 
              Guess which spouse was not born in USA.

              That will give you the reason.

              Fox Noise Makers do not like foreigners.
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        • Author by nerzog (May 05, 2008 3:40 pm ET)
             
          Low irony, but high comedy.
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      • Author by eweston8542983 (May 05, 2008 3:40 pm ET)
           

        Robot's Rules of Order c1968.

        Right after the part about death,"n/a. Though you can usually be turned off, resurection is a good bet. Unless you're boring."

        Taxes: You're on your own pilgrim.

         

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      • Author by werner (May 05, 2008 4:31 pm ET)
           

        Yes,

        indeed.

         

        Cindy would be perfect for the role of an android on Star Trek. 

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    • Author by tommy (May 05, 2008 3:13 pm ET)
         

      It's a fair point, even though we are only one day late from the exact date four years ago when the WaPo editorialized on behalf of Mrs. Kerry, where the other calls for her tax returns came in July and August.

       

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      • Author by Governor (May 05, 2008 3:23 pm ET)
           
        A fair point indeed.  This is and will continue to be a double standard on the part of the WaPo - right up until the point when they never get around to editorializing on Cindy McCain's tax returns.
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        • Author by tommy (May 05, 2008 3:30 pm ET)
             

          Governor, 

          Why don't you make that your personal MMFA mission, to check throughout this campaign on the pages of the Post and give us monthly progress reports on whether they have asked for her tax returns or not.......we are counting on you to keep us abreast of the double standard you insist is there, and will never be corrected.

          Can we do that? 

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          • Author by Governor (May 05, 2008 3:39 pm ET)
               
            When you wrote that this item was "a fair point" on the part of MMFA, what did you mean?
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            • Author by tommy (May 05, 2008 4:01 pm ET)
                 
              Just what I said.
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              • Author by Governor (May 05, 2008 4:04 pm ET)
                   
                But what was the "fair point" made by MMFA here?
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                • Author by tommy (May 05, 2008 4:09 pm ET)
                     
                  Your initial response was "fair point indeed".......you must have understood it then, go back and check with yourself.
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                  • Author by Governor (May 05, 2008 4:14 pm ET)
                       
                    I thought I knew what you meant, but then you mocked me for seeing a double standard on the part of WaPo - so I asked what you thought was the "fair point" made by MMFA, then you ducked the question, so I asked you once more what you meant by "fair point" here, then you ducked the question, and now I don't care anymore.
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                    • Author by tommy (May 05, 2008 4:59 pm ET)
                         
                      Mocked you?  I suggested you become an MMFA foot soldier on this issue, perhaps due to your over-reaction you were the one doing the mocking.
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                      • Author by Governor (May 05, 2008 5:30 pm ET)
                           
                        Since we're just BS'ing here, please note that I don't think that you're a pompous jackass.
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                        • Author by tommy (May 05, 2008 5:39 pm ET)
                             
                          Well that's good, because anyone who would waste their time asking silly question after silly question to a pompous jacka$$ would have to be one themselves, wouldn't they?
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    • Author by wzwriter (May 05, 2008 3:15 pm ET)
         

      Yes - let's see the pill-popper's taz returns!!!!

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      • Author by open_mind (May 05, 2008 7:12 pm ET)
           

        I know you are being sarcastic, but I hope the debate doesn't go there.  The reason I like Democrats marginally better than Republicans is because Dems are largely more fair about things.

        I sincerely hope Cindy has beaten her addiction.  I don't wish that on anyone.

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        • Author by princeofwheels (May 05, 2008 8:32 pm ET)
             
          Then we can only pray for his Pigness, Mr. Limbaugh...the addiction to HIMSELF may not have a cure. Hopefully, he will someday beat the Oxycotin addition.
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        • Author by wzwriter (May 06, 2008 10:39 am ET)
             

          I know you are being sarcastic, but I hope the debate doesn't go there.  The reason I like Democrats marginally better than Republicans is because Dems are largely more fair about things.

          I sincerely hope Cindy has beaten her addiction.  I don't wish that on anyone.

          There's a lot of stuff in Gramps McCain's past that needs to come out in the open.  A lot of it also involves his two wives.  All those "family values" votors need to know that Mc Cain was having an affair with Cindy while he was still marries to Carol (his first wife), a former model who was disabled in a car accident while he was a POW - he came home to find his wife four inches shorter because of her injuries, on crutches, and overweight. 

          And John and Cindy BOTH have to answer a lot of questions about the circumstances surrounding her addiction to painkillers, her stealing pills from her non-profit organization, and the fact that no on was ever prosecuted...

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    • Author by werner (May 05, 2008 3:16 pm ET)
         

      Wow,

       

      I guess they are disoriented to time, they think that this is 2004.

       

      I suppose it's better than thinking it's 1988 and Dukakis is the candidate or that it is still 1972 and George McGovern is the Democratic nominee.

       

      Or that this will be 1968 with some sort of disaster at the Democratic convention.

       

      The media though will continue to hope for a Democratic self destruction. 

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      • Author by nerzog (May 05, 2008 3:34 pm ET)
           
        Of course they're hoping for the Democratic convention to implode.... it will give them their nightly story for the following six months, plus it will relieve them of any guilt for helping saddle us with a third Bush term.
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        • Author by werner (May 05, 2008 3:53 pm ET)
             

          At this point I am optimistic that Obama will have the nomination wrapped up in June, at the latest ,and that the August convention in Denver will be tranquil.

           

          I think this will disappoint the mainstream American so called liberal media even more than it will disappoint either Hillary or even John Mccain. 

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    • Author by Dem02020 (May 05, 2008 3:20 pm ET)
         

       

      There must be a good reason why Cindy is hiding her tax returns from the presidential campaign... maybe she has John listed as a Dependant, or has him listed as some other kind of Deduction or Expense.

       

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      • Author by jawill11 (May 05, 2008 3:47 pm ET)
           
        Isn't there a care for an elderly relative deduction? 
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      • Author by open_mind (May 05, 2008 7:17 pm ET)
           

        John and Cindy file seperate returns.  John cannot be a dependent - unless you are referring to his undergarments. 

        Okay.  That was pretty bad, but I couldn't resist.

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    • Author by snoopy (May 05, 2008 3:27 pm ET)
         

      Ah yes. We must end Teresa's free ride because katsup is far more damaging to American's health than Bud Light.

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      • Author by jeter2 (May 05, 2008 3:35 pm ET)
           

        Snoop,

        I'm not a Bud Light drinker [I prefer Coors Light] but I put ketchup on just about everything including potato chips. I consider ketchup one serving of my daily veggies ;-)

        I don't know why spouses or even candidates taxes need to be scrutinized, BUT if Mrs. Kerry was expected to release hers, then the same should be expected of Mrs. McCain. Thats only fair.

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        • Author by princeofwheels (May 05, 2008 3:44 pm ET)
             
          Snoopy and Jeter..I hope your are both happy. You have just introduced a new twist into this election...KATSUP or KETCHUP ?   One of you will be discovered to be an ELITEST. Can't wait unitl Hannity/Pig Limbaugh or O'Reilly get hold of this one. Thanks alot....I guess the 3rd. party candidates will support CATSUP.
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          • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (May 05, 2008 3:46 pm ET)
               
            Why do you marginalize catchup?
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          • Author by snoopy (May 05, 2008 3:50 pm ET)
               
            So if I understand the political process correctly, Jeter will be the real elitist but I will be branded as one! ;)
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            • Author by princeofwheels (May 05, 2008 3:51 pm ET)
                 
              Only Philib will know the answer to that...after he has dinner with someone who spent the weekend with the Kerrys'
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          • Author by jeter2 (May 05, 2008 3:52 pm ET)
               

            Well Prince I'm strictly a Heinz Ketchup man so I spell it like it appears on that label. Since it's Heinz, I guess that makes me the elitist? ;-)

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            • Author by mary59 (May 05, 2008 4:13 pm ET)
                 
              I applaud your elitist taste in ketchup but have a real issue with your taste in beer. Coors, in my opinion, is not made from Rocky Mountain Spring water, but from goat pee.
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              • Author by jeter2 (May 05, 2008 4:31 pm ET)
                   

                Gee thanks Mary ;-)

                Guess I'll be switching to Bud Light from now on...

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                • Author by juliajayne (May 05, 2008 4:36 pm ET)
                     
                  If you were a real patriot, you'd drink Samuel Adams.
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                  • Author by jeter2 (May 05, 2008 4:52 pm ET)
                       
                    I once spilt a Samuel Adams on my lapel...does that count?
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                    • Author by archfiend (May 05, 2008 5:13 pm ET)
                         
                      Depends. Was your lapel sporting an American flag pin at the time?
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                      • Author by mary59 (May 05, 2008 5:25 pm ET)
                           
                        Black Butte Porter is my favorite. I think you can buy it in Austin...so Jeter, you can bring it to Julia's house tonight.

                        http://www.deschutesbrewery.com/BrewPub/OnTap/5832.aspx
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                        • Author by snoopy (May 05, 2008 5:29 pm ET)
                             
                          My all time fave is Boddingtons. Guess that makes me an elitist and a tory.
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            • Author by wzwriter (May 05, 2008 5:02 pm ET)
                 

              Well Prince I'm strictly a Heinz Ketchup man so I spell it like it appears on that label. Since it's Heinz, I guess that makes me the elitist?

              No.  Simply one who knows what tastes good. And store-brand ketchup can't compare with Heinz.

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      • Author by princeofwheels (May 05, 2008 3:38 pm ET)
           

        Snoopy, thamks for the reminder.

        Recall when the Pig Limbaugh and the Rat Hannity were all over the Heinz Co. concerning thier connection with Kerry. Here in Piitsburgh, the pigs called for a boycott of Heinz products which would have caused a cut in jobs. But lo and behold, the local media approached the Heinz company and the PR person for Heinz explained that there was NO connection between Teresa and the company and that only one member of the Heinz family even worked there. The punch line is that the Heinz Co. donated $5,000 to George Bush campaign and NOTHING to Kerry. The pigs never mentioned it again. OINK OINK

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        • Author by mary59 (May 05, 2008 4:05 pm ET)
             
          Ugh. They have good ketchup but very bad taste in presidents.
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        • Author by open_mind (May 05, 2008 7:25 pm ET)
             
          If McCain was a Democrat, a bunch of whiny b!tches would send out emails boycotting Anheiser-Busch like the ones I got about Heinz four years ago.  I think I am seeing a pattern here.
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      • Author by dave (May 05, 2008 11:03 pm ET)
           

        If any of you are still undecided as to who support in the upcoming elections - this may help you sort things out .

        On one side, you have a bitch who is a lawyer, married to a lawyer, and a lawyer who is married to a bitch who is a lawyer.

        On the other side, you have a war hero married to a woman with a huge chest who owns a beer distributorship.

        Is there a contest here?

        Couldn't resist. It was a great email. I wonder if she golfs.

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        • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (May 05, 2008 11:17 pm ET)
             
          That goes into the "great email" category,Dave? That must be an interesting scale.How do the replica Rolex emails rate, just "excellent"?
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          • Author by dave (May 05, 2008 11:32 pm ET)
               
            Nope, the big boob emails get priority, along with upcoming tee times. But that's just me.
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            • Author by BottleBlonde (May 06, 2008 9:56 am ET)
                 

              So, in your decision-making process for who you want to elect to a 24 hour a day, 4 year term as President, the spouse's cup size is a deciding factor?

              Some people should not be allowed to vote.

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              • Author by dave (May 06, 2008 12:17 pm ET)
                   
                Why not? McBush also wants to continue W's tax cuts which I benefit from, and did I mention she also owns a beer distributorship? Compared to the spouse who for the first time in her adult life, likes America and the other spouse, who was already impeached, I'll take beer and boobs anyday.
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                • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (May 06, 2008 2:28 pm ET)
                     
                  Sounds like you've already had the beer, and you're the boob.
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            • Author by BottleBlonde (May 06, 2008 10:09 am ET)
                 

              I guess we want to keep on hyping these non issues during the campaign like Cindys tax returns.

              Actually, what Media Matters wants to do is highlight the conservative slant in the MSM. The media covered this issue 4 years ago with Kerry but they've not given the same scrutiny to Cindy McCain.

              What a disgrace that most on here want to play partisan games and not get to real issues like Food prices, gas prices and Iraq. But no we need to make Cindy McCains taxes an issue and how dare the WSJ not discuss it.

              Most of us here don't want to talk about 'real' issues? That's crazy talk. Most of us here would love to talk about 'real' issues and the reason we read this site and comment herein is because we long for the day when real issues are discussed in the media instead of the conservative bias we see every day. There's no disgrace in our behavior.

              It's not "Cindy McCain's taxes" that are the issue being discussed here anyway. It's the biased coverage that made Kerry's wife's taxes an issue 4 years ago but has given her a mostly free ride this year. The fact that you see disgrace in what Media Matters chooses to cover, Bobthep, is evidence of your skewed attitude not ours.

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    • Author by RoberttheP (May 05, 2008 3:32 pm ET)
         
      I guess we want to keep on hyping these non issues during the campaign like Cindys tax returns, Obama and the Pastor, Hillary and Bosnia.  What a disgrace that most on here want to play partisan games and not get to real issues like Food prices, gas prices and Iraq. But no we need to make Cindy McCains taxes an issue and how dare the WSJ not discuss it.
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      • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (May 05, 2008 3:36 pm ET)
           

        I got some pretty decent New York steaks at a good price yesterday, but the price of tomatoes was a crime.

        Well, that's all I got on food prices right now. Hey, I've forgotten all about the media's double standard on the tax records issue!

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        • Author by worrierking (May 05, 2008 3:44 pm ET)
             
          I'm not sure why anyone's complaining about food prices. The Junior Bacon Cheeseburger is still only 99 cents at Wendy's.

          No price increase in more than five years.
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          • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (May 05, 2008 3:49 pm ET)
               

            Hey King- are you still planning on getting 600 of those babies with your "stimulus package"?

            & Why do I always feel kind of gay asking other men about their stimulus packages?

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            • Author by worrierking (May 05, 2008 5:51 pm ET)
                 
              Unfortunately I live in NJ which has a 7 % sales tax. So I'll be investing my $600 in as many Junior Bacon Cheeseburgers as I can buy for the $600 including sales tax.

              But I do plan on driving through Delaware next week which has no sales tax. My large family lives in the Philadelphia, Delaware and Southern NJ area and am thinking of having them all meet me at the Wendy's on RT 13 in New Castle, DE for a big dinner.If you care to fly in, I'd gladly buy you a few Colonel.

              It'll be my treat.

              Or should I say well be suckling from the govmint teat.
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              • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (May 05, 2008 11:21 pm ET)
                   

                hmmm... I've got some PTO to use up. Where's the nearest airport to the Wendy's?

                I think you figured it out before, but my numbers say you can get 566 with the 7% tax.Have you figures out the offset in gas money vs. the 34 burgers?

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            • Author by worrierking (May 05, 2008 5:52 pm ET)
                 
              And Colonel, we know each other well enough to know that we're both secure enough in our own masculinity to inquire about such things as our packages.
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        • Author by juliajayne (May 05, 2008 3:47 pm ET)
             
          What's Bo Peep on about now? I guess he thinks MMFA is a news outlet or something. And you're right, Col., the price of tomatoes is a crime. I guess the price is high because of people like Jeter hoarding tomato products. 
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          • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (May 05, 2008 3:52 pm ET)
               
            Jeter does seem to be creating quite a demand for his favorite vegetable. I can't throw stones, though. I like my baked potatoes, and after I burn them real good on the BBQ, I make a mix of Ketchup, curry & hot sauce that turns them into a near-hallucinogen.
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            • Author by snoopy (May 05, 2008 4:00 pm ET)
                 
              Now that's a taste I've never tried. What's the recipe?
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              • Author by juliajayne (May 05, 2008 4:08 pm ET)
                   
                It's one part radical, a touch of elitism, a pinch of leftist and a bit of unwashed hippie. Add a sprig of arugula as a garnish. 
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            • Author by jeter2 (May 05, 2008 4:05 pm ET)
                 
              Damn Colonel Sanders that sounds good. So will KFC be offering it soon as a side dish?
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          • Author by jeter2 (May 05, 2008 4:04 pm ET)
               
            I guess the price is high because of people like Jeter hoarding tomato products.

             

            Lady Julia I plead guilty ;-)

            And we're having spaghetti & meatballs tonight :-O

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            • Author by juliajayne (May 05, 2008 4:13 pm ET)
                 
              Again with the spaghetti and meatballs? If you come to my house, I'll be serving creamy risotto and lamb rib chops. 
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              • Author by snoopy (May 05, 2008 4:15 pm ET)
                   
                mmmmm, that sounds yummily elitist! ;)
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              • Author by jeter2 (May 05, 2008 4:19 pm ET)
                   

                If you come to my house, I'll be serving creamy risotto and lamb rib chops. 

                Ok Miss Julia I'll take you up on that invite. Leave directions. Snoop & I will be there around 6:30.

                What kind of wine should I bring?

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                • Author by dbeden4153 (May 05, 2008 4:20 pm ET)
                     
                  wine?  you elitist ;)
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                • Author by juliajayne (May 05, 2008 4:30 pm ET)
                     
                  A good Cabernet Sauvignon will do. But be warned, I don't drink, but will gladly take advantage of you two in your inebriated state.
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      • Author by jeter2 (May 05, 2008 3:37 pm ET)
           

        I agree Bob. However it does show a double standard.

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        • Author by Sueelldd (May 05, 2008 3:50 pm ET)
             
          Jeter, I agree, but it was unfair in 2004. I guess we will never get over the this and that BS though. Kind of sad. If the WSJ did it in 04 they must do it in 08 right?
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      • Author by nerzog (May 05, 2008 3:38 pm ET)
           
        I could be wrong, but I think the point is fair and equal treatment in the media. Most of us don't give a rip about Mrs. Gramp's finances, but, if they're going to give Democratic Candidates daily anal exams, then the Republican candidate needs to hop up on the table as well.
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        • Author by pithaughn (May 05, 2008 5:52 pm ET)
             

          Ner, your view that "Most of us don't give a rip about Mrs. Gramp's finances," may be off the mark. If Senator Obama is to be framed as an elitist then Senator Gramps father the Admiral and his second (of how many we wonder?) wife's wealth is should certainly be fodder for the chattering nabobs.

          I suppose one could wonder if Gramps will ditch wife number two like he ditched wife number one, after he no longer needed her.

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      • Author by Brabantio (May 05, 2008 3:40 pm ET)
           
        The content of this site hinges on media behavior.  They cover what the media does (but shouldn't) and what they don't do (but should).  A double standard is a legitimate complaint in this arena.  If you want to read about issues regardless of how those in the media are handling them, there are thousands of other sites that do that.  If you know of instances where the media is mishandling those issues, send in a tip, I'm sure they'll be most grateful.
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        • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (May 05, 2008 3:45 pm ET)
             
          I thought we were talking about food prices. Quit going off-topic.
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          • Author by Brabantio (May 05, 2008 3:46 pm ET)
               
            Sorry, I tend to over-analyze things on a full stomach.
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      • Author by snoopy (May 05, 2008 3:48 pm ET)
           
        I'd love to have a chat about gas prices and what's gonna be done to get them back to $2 a gallon. Quite ironic that gas in Texas has almost doubled in price since Bush took office and I don't hear one peep about it, yet I can personally see through my trucking business that small business truckers are hurting big time. What's it gonna take to hear a big collective scream from the average citizen - $10 a gallon?
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        • Author by Sueelldd (May 05, 2008 3:53 pm ET)
             
          The reason gas prices are high is because the Bush Administration has lacked an energy policy. Plain and simple and now we all pay for that idiot
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          • Author by snoopy (May 05, 2008 4:03 pm ET)
               

            Bush sure did like walking hand in hand with The Saudi King though. That little love tryst really paid off...

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          • Author by solon (May 05, 2008 6:54 pm ET)
               
            I think 4$ a gallon gas fits right in with the Administrations energy policy.
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            • Author by oscar the grouch (May 05, 2008 7:56 pm ET)
                 
              And $4 gas will fit right in with the next Administration's energy plan (as long as at least $1.50 of that price is due to taxes).
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              • Author by solon (May 06, 2008 12:45 am ET)
                   
                It wont if we stop electing OIL EXECUTIVES to office. Didnt Enron basically PICK the Bush administrations energy Czar? As to your silly jibe about taxes at least if its not a Republican administation they wont be all about starving hungry children. Isnt it easy to just play those silly stereotypes AS IF they actually made sense? I mean so much easier to repeat Rush Limbaugh than to do any actual thinking
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        • Author by nerzog (May 05, 2008 3:54 pm ET)
             
          That's where the Republicans get their money's worth for buying up the News Media. They'll convince a majority of their sheeple that gas is so high because DEMOCRATS won't let them drill in Alaska. Wait for it....
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      • Author by Sueelldd (May 05, 2008 3:50 pm ET)
           
        Bob, your heart is in the right place ;-)
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        • Author by BottleBlonde (May 06, 2008 6:26 pm ET)
             

          Actually, his heart is not in the right place and apparently his brain is about 3 feet lower than it should be. Everyone who's anyone has totally demolished his argument. You chose to praise him.

          I guess we want to keep on hyping these non issues during the campaign like Cindys tax returns.

          Actually, what Media Matters wants to do is highlight the conservative slant in the MSM. The media covered this issue 4 years ago with Kerry but they've not given the same scrutiny to Cindy McCain.

          What a disgrace that most on here want to play partisan games and not get to real issues like Food prices, gas prices and Iraq. But no we need to make Cindy McCains taxes an issue and how dare the WSJ not discuss it.

          Most of us here don't want to talk about 'real' issues? That's crazy talk. Most of us here would love to talk about 'real' issues and the reason we read this site and comment herein is because we long for the day when real issues are discussed in the media instead of the conservative bias we see every day. There's no disgrace in our behavior.

          It's not "Cindy McCain's taxes" that are the issue being discussed here anyway. It's the biased coverage that made Kerry's wife's taxes an issue 4 years ago but has given her a mostly free ride this year. The fact that you see disgrace in what Media Matters chooses to cover, Bobthep, is evidence of your skewed attitude not ours.

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      • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (May 05, 2008 4:28 pm ET)
           

        What a disgrace that most on here want to play partisan games and not get to real issues like Food prices, gas prices and Iraq.

        Food prices? Too damn high. I'm starting a garden. 

        Gas Prices?  Too damn high but I'm old and it's to damn hot to walk or ride a bike when it's 115 in the shade.

        Iraq? We never should have been there in the first place.

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        • Author by oscar the grouch (May 05, 2008 7:57 pm ET)
             

          Mass Transit, Pearlene, Mass Transit.

           

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          • Author by snoopy (May 05, 2008 9:28 pm ET)
               
            I loved mass transit when I was in London. But that takes taxes to build. Hmmm, who is against taxes of any kind?
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            • Author by oscar the grouch (May 05, 2008 9:52 pm ET)
                 
              Well, I pay taxes for a mass transit system I don't use and the users pay a pittance. When it's 3/4 mile to the nearest bus stop and a 30-45 minute ride from there to work and work is only 3 miles away, mass transit doesn't work for me.  In a large metropolitan area, I would have to see.
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              • Author by IowaDem (May 06, 2008 1:29 am ET)
                   
                You may not use the public transportation yourself, but you benefit from it by lower congestion on the roads.  That's why it's called a "Public Good".  It works to eliminate the problem of people like yourself believing that you shouldn't have to pay for something you don't have the direct benefit of.   Like schools, parks, interstate highways and so on
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                • Author by dbeden4153 (May 06, 2008 10:30 am ET)
                     
                  Not only that but it allows people to get to work who would normally have a hard time without public transportation, thus boosting the economy and boosting revenues.  
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                • Author by snoopy (May 06, 2008 11:45 am ET)
                     

                  That attitude is really key when discussing politics and whats best. Take for instance a bond package we are going to vote on in North Austin. Pflugerville wants to expand the rec center.

                  My wife's rationalization for voting against it? We have a YMCA, a pool park and another rec center that all bought land in the area and are breaking ground, it makes no sense to expand the rec center when we will not only get the same services from these other 3 businesses but the town will also benefit from the added tax base these businesses will provide, thus helping keep property taxes down.

                  My right wing neighbors' rationalization for voting against it? Why should he pay taxes on something he never uses so a few trailer park trash kids can have another free place to abuse and ruin.

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      • Author by solon (May 05, 2008 6:50 pm ET)
           
        What a shame that you keep coming to a website and STILL dont get what it is about which is NOT the politicians but how they are covered by the media. Try to keep up.
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    • Author by nerzog (May 05, 2008 3:49 pm ET)
         
      Someone refresh my memory... didn't the Talk Radio Troglodytes ridicule John Kerry for having married into money?
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      • Author by IRONY 101 (May 05, 2008 3:59 pm ET)
           
        Uhhh...you're not supposed to to remember things like that. But, hey... what about that Rev. Jeremiah Wright, huh?
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        • Author by historygeek001 (May 07, 2008 4:27 pm ET)
             

          Yeah, Rev. Wright!  He is the Christian pastor of the Christian church that Obama the Muslim attended for 20 years!  Wait a moment...

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    • Author by werner (May 05, 2008 6:14 pm ET)
         

      Theresa is an anti american elitist whore, and Cindy is a fine upstanding all American woman.

       

      Can't MMFA see the difference? 

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      • Author by princeofwheels (May 05, 2008 6:33 pm ET)
           
        Werner, no quarrel here...that Cindy Sheehan is a grerat American woman. By the way, has she endorsed anyone??
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      • Author by IowaDem (May 06, 2008 1:33 am ET)
           
        I was sent an email from a raving Republican co-worker deploring the media and the McCain campaign for not extolling on the wonderfulness of Cindy.  Reading the email one would believe that Cindy was the next Mother Teresa.  It made my stomach turn, but this is exactly the kind of misinformation that these folks feast on!  I had half a mind to respond with scathing rapacity, but the calmer side of me realized it would be a waste of time trying to ork on the already assimilated hivemind that he lives in.
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        • Author by IRONY 101 (May 06, 2008 11:19 am ET)
             

          The Republican hive had better be careful bestowing sainthood on Cindy McCain. If reports are true that John McCain has a history of verbal abuse directed towards his wife, even reportedly once angrily calling her the "C-word" in front of other people at a political function years ago, then people may begin to wonder if John McCain is worthy of Saint Cindy...or, as has been suggested, that he's just a golddigger who has taken full advantage of his wife's wealth.

          In my observation, John McCain's entire political career and the ancillary perks, such as a rich trophy wife, are simply the rewards for being the son of an important admiral and having spent almost six years as a POW. Otherwise, there is nothing special about McCain. He's just a common, garden-variety politician...

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        • Author by wzwriter (May 07, 2008 9:33 am ET)
             

          I was sent an email from a raving Republican co-worker deploring the media and the McCain campaign for not extolling on the wonderfulness of Cindy.  Reading the email one would believe that Cindy was the next Mother Teresa.  It made my stomach turn, but this is exactly the kind of misinformation that these folks feast on!  I had half a mind to respond with scathing rapacity, but the calmer side of me realized it would be a waste of time trying to ork on the already assimilated hivemind that he lives in.

          Do what I do when I get e-mails like that - hit "Reply All" and send out a link to the Snopes page that discusses the e-mail in question.

          In this instance, what they posted about Cindy in that e-mail is in fact accurate - they just left out all the bad stuff, which is listed on the Snopes page:

          http://www.snopes.com/politics/mccain/cindy.asp

          (PS - I used to get e-mails like that at work all the time.  Once I started using "Reply All" to set people straight, I got taken off a lot of distribution lists...)

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      • Author by wzwriter (May 06, 2008 10:54 am ET)
           

        Theresa is an anti american elitist whore, and Cindy is a fine upstanding all American woman.

        Can't MMFA see the difference? 

        This is part of what Wikipedia has to say about Teresa Heinz Kerry:

        Teresa Heinz reportedly is one of the most philanthropic women in the world today.  She is the chair of The Howard Heinz Endowment and the Heinz Family Philanthropies (collectively, the Heinz Foundations), disbursing money to various social and environmental causes. She assists the community of Pittsburgh, where the Heinz family has had many financial and family connections. In recognition of her philanthropy and activism, Heinz has received twelve honorary doctoral degrees from the following institutions:


        Teresa Heinz was also awarded the prestigious Albert Schweitzer Gold Medal for Humanitarianism in 2003. She has been elected as a fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences. She has also served as a trustee of the New England prep school, St. Paul's School, which her husband John Kerry attended.  Source:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teresa_Heinz_Kerry

        OTOH, Cincy McCain is an adultress who had an affair with a married man and lured him away from his disabled wife.  She is a drug abuser, a thief, and since she refuses to release her tax returns, she may even be a tax evader.

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    • Author by werner (May 05, 2008 6:41 pm ET)
         

      Hey..ya got me confused...

       

      I'm a talkin' about my girl Cindy McCain..

       

      Now there is a fine upstanding example of an American wife.

       

      Not like that traitor Sheehan who don't show no deference to the Republicans.

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      • Author by princeofwheels (May 05, 2008 10:12 pm ET)
           
        That traitor Sheehan..wow, what did she do to be labeled as a traitor? But the Republans blew a gasket when a simple ad which DID NOT  call Gen Petraus a traitor was put out. If Cindy Sheehan is a traitor, please supply me the information so that I can pass it on to President Bush so that he can talk to her and straighten her out. I heard that Cindy was supporting McCain.
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        • Author by wzwriter (May 06, 2008 11:58 am ET)
             

          That traitor Sheehan..wow, what did she do to be labeled as a traitor?

          She had the audacity to demand a second meeting with Bush - after she learned the facts surrounding her son's death in Iraq and its senslessness  (sarcasm off).

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