O'Reilly compared Moulitsas to white supremacist David Duke
SUMMARY: Bill O'Reilly compared Markos Moulitsas, founder of the progressive Daily Kos blog, to white supremacist David Duke and criticized Newsweek for its decision to hire Moulitsas as a regular contributor, stating: "And Newsweek magazine, by the way, has legitimized him by giving him a columnist position. I talked to the editor by email, and I said I can't believe that you're -- that's like hiring David Duke. Again, I use Duke too much, but I have to -- the level of hatred coming out of that website is unprecedented."
During the May 14 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor, host Bill O'Reilly compared Markos Moulitsas, founder of the progressive Daily Kos blog, to white supremacist David Duke and criticized Newsweek for its decision to hire Moulitsas as a regular contributor, stating: "And Newsweek magazine, by the way, has legitimized him by giving him a columnist position. I talked to the editor by email, and I said I can't believe that you're -- that's like hiring David Duke. Again, I use Duke too much, but I have to -- the level of hatred coming out of that website is unprecedented." O'Reilly later claimed that Newsweek's decision caused him to "cancel[] my subscription." O'Reilly stated: "I canceled my subscription -- I still get it at work -- to Newsweek magazine because of that. And I think everybody else should, as well," explaining: "[O]nce you start to hire a guy like this Kos guy and you're legitimizing that, then I'm out. I'm completely out. I don't want anything to do with you or your publication."
As Media Matters for America has documented, O'Reilly has repeatedly attacked Daily Kos, comparing it not only to Duke, but also to the Ku Klux Klan and the Nazi party.
From the May 14 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor:
O'REILLY: You know, I hate to report this stuff, but I have to -- we have to do it. We have to tell the audience the level of hate in this country, because it is becoming a factor in a presidential race, as I debated with Laura Ingraham up top. And it is becoming a factor with children. And it's coarsening our society.
Jenna Bush married, very nice ceremony last weekend. The Daily Kos does what?
HAM: Well, it took it as an opportunity, the classic sort of liberal blog activity to post pictures of her at her wedding juxtaposed with some very graphic pictures of casualties in Iraq, perpetrated both by insurgents and allegedly American air strikes. Just to make the point that the Bushes should not be allowed to celebrate nuptials, apparently, because there is a war going on.
And I guess the premise is that -- or the theory is that only the handful of Democrats who originally voted against the war are allowed to celebrate familial milestones at this point while there's a war going on. I mean, it's a really silly argument. And the pictures are disgusting.
O'REILLY: All right. Now, the purveyor of this revolting website who's probably one of the most despicable Americans in the country -- show his picture if we have it. This man is basically now using the website to elevate the level of hatred toward the Bushes and anybody else.
And Newsweek magazine, by the way, has legitimized him by giving him a columnist position. I talked to the editor by email, and I said I can't believe that you're -- that's like hiring David Duke. Again, I use Duke too much, but I have to -- the level of hatred coming out of that website is unprecedented. Isn't it?
HAM: It is. The comments -- the comments sections are really a cesspool. There are liberal blogs that do good reporting --
O'REILLY: Not this.
HAM: -- that do good stuff even at places on Daily Kos, and occasionally on Huffington Post, you'll find good stuff, but yes, it's overshadowed by the cesspool -
[crosstalk]
O'REILLY: I canceled my subscription -- I still get it at work -- to Newsweek magazine because of that. And I think everybody else should, as well. I mean, once you start to legitimize this -- like Syracuse University.
Once you start to employ that guy, let him do the hatred, using his position, once you start to hire a guy like this Kos guy and you're legitimizing that, then I'm out. I'm completely out. I don't want anything to do with you or your publication or your school.
HAM: And shining sunlight on the comments and the bad behavior, I think it's a good way to get rid of it.
O'REILLY: Yeah. And we have to. That's why I told Laura Ingraham I can't ignore this, because it's becoming a huge, huge factor in the country.
BO was right on this one. Moulitsas is disquisting, and in now way should he be hired by Newsweek. But, it is just another example of the heavy left wing media bias in this country. The pictures his site put up with the photos from the wedding of Jeena Bush served no purpose whatsoever.
The left goes nuts when the media refers to McCain as a maverick, but defends this guy and his trash site. BO was 100 percent right.
Are you kidding? He loves him some Michael Medved.
"Senators Obama, Clinton and other leaders who seek to enlarge the scope of government face more formidable obstacles than they realize. Their desire to impose a European-style welfare state and a command-and-control economy not only contradicts our proudest political and economic traditions, but the new revelations about American DNA "
Courtesy of the republican's very own Michael Medved.
Moulitsas is disgusting? Why do you hate our troops?
POV doesn't hate the troops, per se. He just has a problem with anyone who shows him up for the ignorant fool that he is.... :-)
WZWRITER
And you did that how? All you can do is make gay jokes. You are about as stupid as they come on this board.
And you did that how? All you can do is make gay jokes. You are about as stupid as they come on this board.
That shows how much YOU know, POV - which isn't much. I've been active in US politics since 1960, when I was only seven years old. I've probably FORGOTTEN more about politics than you have ever learned, based on your inane posts here. Now - go somewhere, open a book, and get a clue.
WZwriter
Thats all well and great, except your intellect has not developed beyond the 7 year old level.
That's crazy talk.
Bill O'Reilly does participate in hate talk. So do many of the people that comment on his blog. FreeRepublic posters, as well as DailyKos posters, do not restrain themselves, but Kos does.
Markos is not the same as David Duke. He's not even as obnoxious as Bill O'Reilly.
See what righty, Bill O'Reilly supporters sent to the Daily Kos website - talk about hate speech! Here's the first two...
http://www.dailykos.com/
You are a queer little f***** retard!! Stay gay you c*** s****er!!
You have gone too far with this liberal, fascist bull****....sit down and SHUT UP and stop posting despicable stories to further your own ends. I am sick and tired of the radical left and I hope people like Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck can exert their influence to SHUT YOU DOWN!!!!! If you don't like America, get the f*** out!
Most despicable man in the country? Off the chart hate? Worse than David Duke?
Do you seriously believe that Markos and DKos are even close to those descriptions? Where was O'Reilly's outrage for the past 10 years or so while the major right wing blogs were preaching violence towards "the damn liberals" and wishing death and torture upon Democratic leaders? Where was his anger when Malkin posted the real physical addresses of bloggers she disagreed alongside a faux plea to "Not do anything harmful with the information"?
As for his complaints of lefty blogs somehow cheapening the political discourse of this country, really? It seems to me that the rise of wingnut AM radio, pundits like BO, Hanity, Coulter and the programming of Fox News itself has done far more to do that than the blogs on either side.
O'Reilly's just steamed that the left is fighting back using the same tactics that have been used against them for so long.
Personally, I think BO is pissed because Kos dug up that video of O'Reilly throwing a violent temper tantrum when he worked for Inside Edition. Well, that's not the only reason of course. Kos and the bloggers take the fight for hearts and minds to the people. Now that the real playing field has been identified Kos and the rest are winning the culture war.
No, O'Reilly's totally correct about the hate level over there, but he's wrong about the Duke comparison. That's ridiculous.
One of the reasons I've lost total respect for the DAILY KOS is that when he and the others use the same vitriolic language to describe Hillary Clinton as they do Bush and Cheney, you can't take them seriously. It's moronic and dishonest.
About 99% of the hate is generated by Obama supporters-- which is going to doom him in November if he gets the nom.
About 99% of the hate is generated by Obama supporters-- which is going to doom him in November if he gets the nom
If you're not tired of repeating this sh*t let me say I'm sick and tired of your crap. You have lost any sanity you possibility had when Hilary stared to lost. Check your self in and don't get released until after November, we'll all be happier.
And F*** it! We'll do it live!
...F***ing thing sucks!
It's getting ridiculous when even HE acknowledges that he uses David Duke a lot. You know, when you use one thing over and over, it kinda loses its effectiveness. It's like Michael Scott's favorite line "that's what she said." After the 456th reference, it loses its charm and spontaneity.
Then I guess you will be first in line to condemn BOR for the disgusting things that readers have posted in the comments section of his website. I'll be waiting for that condemnation.
Point of View is an avowed hypocrite. I wouldn't hold your breath while you are waiting.
Clearly there is a lot of hatred and misinformation spread on Daily Kos, but that is the fault of those who write there, not those who merely supplied the forum for free speech. If O'Reilly were truly a free speech advocate, he would not being calling for this.
true, but KOS is just as bad.
Compare him with Digby. When the hate level reaches a certain point (99% from Obama fans) she slices the comments. And now she moderates them all the time.
She's rational. And fair-minded. He's not.
Desperation doesn't become you, Carl.
You're getting shriller with each post.
BO is correct on this topic. Daily Kos & Huffington Post are websites that contain minimal on par content, while promoting far left moonbat rhetoric.
MMFA at least provides some reliable data to backup their viewpoints, regardless how parsing many of them are, but still there is something. KOS and HP do nothing but promote liberal agenda lies - like the accusation of McCain not voting for Bush. I mean, cmon guys, they gotta do better than that.
Columbus,
So those folks who back up Huffington's story about McCain not voting for Bush are lying too? Could you please post some links to stories with misinformation and links showing what the true information is?
Thanks in advance.
Puh-leeze. HuffPo's claim that they were able to "back up" their story is a joke. Your objection only reinforces what O'Reilly is asserting.
Thank you.
Are they liars too? No, they are just morons for buying into a very clear lie. Seeing as how McCain campaigned for Bush that election year, and even with Bush's approval rating of under 30%, McCain could have been wiser to say he didnt vote for Bush. Only someone telling the truth against all costs right now would come out and say "I voted and campainged for Bush".
Its a he said/she said smear. Arianna has zero proof of anything, and theres no way to disprove her. So she can get away with creating a false story. This isnt rocket science
Columbus,
Please provide other stories then that are lies. Thank you.
You're being too tough on these boys Friedber,
They think they've got something here. And it means the whole world to them. They're going to hold onto it like a baby to his rattler.
The people who backed up the story were people at the party who also heard the comment. So, please explain how they "bought into a lie."
Oh so they heard a he said/she said comment....but now its all the sudden true? Id like to see/hear audio or video tape of this to prove its true. Else its just a bogus lie.
They heard McCain say it directly, you jackass.
I bet a defense attorney would love to have you on a jury if four eyewitness accounts is not enough for evidence, you need a/v to prove something happened. What if the tape was doctored? I think the only way to know anything has ever happened is if you see it first-hand.
Just out of curiosity. Does anyone have a link where McCain, himself directly denies the accusation?
Can you prove that she has told the truth about them. Lets see McCain campaigned for Bush in that election year. Now she "says" he didnt vote for him.
But show me the proof of that. Or is this another made up he said/she said from Arianna.
She has no solid proof of arguments. Its all word of mouth.
Nobody knows what lever McCain pulled when in the booth in 2000 (I'm not sure he remembers himself). Arianna stated that McCain SAID he did not vote for Bush. This has been confirmed by two named guests at the party. A third guest at the party told the LA TIMES anonymously (as she is a friend of CIndy McCain's) that Mrs. McCain also said she didn't vote for Bush (she said she didn't vote for President in that election). McCain has produced no witnesses to support the claim that he did not say that he did not vote for Bush. So the supporting evidence is ALL on Arianna's side at this time.
Next lie, please?
Funny how these folks who are so certain that Arianna is a liar get their dander up if we point out the lies of Bush/Cheney. Hypocrisy is a two-way street, eh?
Technically, Arianna is the accuser here and several others at the party. The burden is on her and her friends.
Columbus has no basis to call Huffington a liar either for that matter. Was Columbus at the party?
I don't think one can say conclusively what happened. I am interested in what precisely McCain said to rebut Arianna. Does anyone have that?
BO is correct on this topic. Daily Kos & Huffington Post are websites that contain minimal on par content, while promoting far left moonbat rhetoric.
BOR's right but for the wrong reasons. And those folks are not left. Just a little crazed and self -righteous. Their brains aren't on, most of them. It's all about outrage , the kind that makes them feel good about themselves.
I was just thinking that very same thing about your anti-Barak comments here, Carl.
Feeling better now?
O'REILLY: And it's coarsening our society.
LOL... O'Reilly is complaining that Daily Kos is coarsening society? Has he listened to his FOX-mate, Sean Hannity, lately? Has he listened to himself?
He can't listen to himself.
It's not nice to see people puke on themselves.
BO's show is a dictatorship of the host's opinions.
There is no similarity, Tommy.
I find nothing objectionable in bo's comments on this issue. i often find a lot to fault him for, but not this time.
I don't know or care about the guy, or his web-site... but where Fox Clown o'reilly says:
Newsweek magazine, by the way, has legitimized him by giving him a columnist position
...that's just pure stupid to think that. To think there's anything "legitimate" about anybody, simply for the reason they write a column someone, is to think coulter and kristol and even karl rove are "legitimate" for that reason... that's pure stupidity, right there.
MMFA complains about context in the earlier thread, that the WSJ leaves out the actual charge itself, yet why do they not include the link to the vile pictures that O'Reilly refers to on Daily Kos and the reason for his David Duke comparison?
Because showing the atrocities of war is morally equivalent to blatant racism and bigotry? Is that what you're saying, Tommy?
At least Bush pretended to give up golf, in a show of solidarity with the sacrifices of our soldiers. I wonder how he's managing, seeing as he hasn't golfed in nearly 5 years now. Imagine the toll that must be taking on his mental health. Imagine the toll it's taken on his butt-buddy, McCain.
Oohhh, big burn. Though I don't fault Tommy, I've been guilty of skipping straight to the comments before.
One big question...since when is Mary Katharine Ham an internet expert?
Excellent point about the pictures, but I can't even find it at Kos, not yet at least. But O'Reilly does not link to it either, so be sure to notify him of your outrage as well.
You have no point about the reason for the David Duke comparison. O'Reilly made the comparison, but it is he who did not elaborate. The juxtaposition of Jenna Bush enjoying a young-adult life free from combat does not make Markos a racist cult leader, so it's on O'Reilly to explain it.
Like clockwork. Cherry pick my post for a chance to take a shot at me.
Someone once told me, "ignore the message, trash the messenger."
I was conveying what I surmise the Kos poster was trying to convey. That way, I can further the case that conveying such a thing is not tantamount to hatred and violence toward an entire race of people, and thus, invalidating O'Reilly's comparison.
It was not my intention to derail the thread into a p***ing contest over George W's lack of tangible sacrifice during his war. That intent belongs to you.
So you were rationalizing the pictures used by Kos next to Bush's wedding photos, and by trying to invalidate O'Reillys comparison to Duke because Duke's a racist, and the Kos guy just hates Bush, not an entire race?
I think O'Reilly's comparison went directly to hatred and the spreading of it......he is hardly one to talk, and the comparison may be over the top and not an exact match, but the Daily Kos is full of hatred, Duke certainly is, and for good measure, so is O'Reilly. As I said, they all deserve one another.
I can't believe he actually calls out the comments section of the Daily Kos, again. Has he visited www.hannity.com? or his own web-site? I've spent considerable amount of time there and there's been the same level of hate on those web-sites for years as has been on the Daily Kos or Huffington Post. And you know what? That's completely fine, because that's free speech. The beauty of the internet is that anyone with a keyboard and a web connection can use it as a forum to voice their opinions. You know, not everyone has a prime-time slot on cable news, Bill.
And is he really that blind to the arrogance of President Bush? Mr. "I gave up golf to support the troops"? Man, that must suck to sacrifice such an integral part of your life to show solidarity with our fighting men and women. Unless, of course, he didn't.
Maybe O'Reilly just counts on the ignorance and stupidity of his audience...
He knows them well.
Is it hamhanded, maybe a little distasteful? Sure. But at least be honest about the point he's trying to make.
There is no difference between the exteme elements on the "left" or the "right" side of the isle. They are all hateful and they are all angry. They hate each other and everyone in the middle. Taking such extreme points of view shows that people on the extreme "right" and "left" are not open to thinking for themselves. I agree with both liberals and conservatives.
There is no difference between the exteme elements on the "left" or the "right" side of the isle. They are all hateful and they are all angry. They hate each other and everyone in the middle. Taking such extreme points of view shows that people on the extreme "right" and "left" are not open to thinking for themselves. I agree with both liberals and conservatives.
That's nonsense, pure and simple. There are huge differences between the groups. There are examples of extremes on both sides, it's true, but the attitude and the behavior of those on the far right is demonstrably much worse than the average person on the far right. The hatred is more intense and less reasonable, the vitriol is much more personal rather than substantial and objective. There's nothing comparable to the average rightwing bigot on the left.
There is no difference between the exteme elements on the "left" or the "right" side of the isle
The extreme left HATES what is being done to this country. The extreme right hates simply because it makes them feel good (and duping the electorate into voting them into prower by pandering fear and hate was an extra special side benefit. But the emporer finally has no clothes and the voters finally have realized it).
F*** IT! We'll do it live! We'll do it LIVE!!
Oh man, I know this is off topic, but I just can't get enough of that clip. Talk about a meltdown. That was a defining moment for Olberman and O'Reilly. It showed everyone the type of person O'Reilly is: obnoxious, short-tempered and generally not a nice guy. . . Can you imagine what he says of screen on Fux News??
O'REILLY: "I canceled my subscription -- I still get it at work -- to Newsweek magazine because of that. And I think everybody else should, as well. I mean, once you start to legitimize this -- like Syracuse University."
Canceled his subscription to Newsweek, but still reads it at work? Wow Bill, that's some boycott you've got going there. While you were at it, did you ever renew your subscription to the "Paris Business Review"?