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Exec. producer tells fishbowl DC that Meet the Press "would certainly be open" to interviewing Bob Barr

May 16, 2008 2:33 pm ET

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In a May 15 post to the mediabistro.com blog fishbowl DC, editor Patrick W. Gavin reported that in response to his inquiry following up on a Media Matters for America item asking whether NBC Washington bureau chief Tim Russert would give Libertarian presidential candidate and former Republican congressman Bob Barr (GA) the same platform on Meet the Press that Russert gave Ralph Nader, Meet the Press executive producer Betsy Fischer asserted, "We would certainly be open to having Rep. Barr back on Meet the Press to discuss his candidacy."

The fishbowl DC blog post:

Will "Meet" Book Barr?

MediaMatters asks an interesting question: "Will Russert offer Libertarian candidate Barr the same Meet the Press platform he gave Nader?"

"Meet the Press" Executive Producer Betsy Fischer tells FishbowlDC:

Meet the Press has a long history of interviewing third party presidential candidates ... Ralph Nader, Ross Perot, Harry Browne (Libertarian Pres. Candidate), John Hagelin and Howard Phillips -- just to name a few. We would certainly be open to having Rep. Barr back on Meet the Press to discuss his candidacy. He has previously appeared on the program six times during his career.

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    • Author by tommy (May 16, 2008 2:34 pm ET)
         
      There you have it.
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      • Author by wzwriter (May 16, 2008 2:36 pm ET)
           
        It will be interesting to see how many more times Gramps McCain appears on MTP before Bob Barr's first appearance.....
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    • Author by sandss981580 (May 16, 2008 2:36 pm ET)
         
      why is this here?
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      • Author by tommy (May 16, 2008 2:37 pm ET)
           

        Apparently TAKE ACTION! works?  Be my guess.......

        :) 

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        • Author by Chromium (May 16, 2008 4:51 pm ET)
             

          Remember when they were called "McDonald's Hamburger Restaurants"?  They dropped the "Hamburger" part when they started serving breakfasts, expanding their service hours.

          Remember MTV, Music Television, that showed nothing but music videos?  Replaced by other reality type shows.

          Well, apparently MMFA feels they must write about something besides "conservative misinformation" to attract the number of eyeballs they want. 

          I note that they still maintain the TAKE ACTION sidebar, with contact info for Meet the Press, NBC News, and Tim Russert.  They still say: "Express your specific concerns regarding that particular news report or commentary, and be sure to indicate exactly what you would like the media outlet to do differently in the future."  I am not sure how you do something differently in the future before the program in question occurs.  

          Chromium (formerly Missouri Show Me) 

           

           

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          • Author by tommy (May 16, 2008 5:09 pm ET)
               

            Are you like Prince?  Formerly known as........  ;)

            Nerzog hit the nail on the head later on in this thread, this isn't about some advocacy on fairness in media coverage of Barr, as the previous thread tried to rationalize it by giving Nader's vote % as opposed to the Libertarian candidate, as if that was the impetus behind this MTP booking or something.

            This is all about getting Barr exposure and pushing for his media attention so he can swipe some of McCain's votes.  It's politically driven, not media fairness at all - to even include Nader as some cpmparison is disingenuous.

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            • Author by tommy (May 16, 2008 5:10 pm ET)
                 
              "comparison", not cpmparison.....whew.
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              • Author by Chromium (May 16, 2008 5:13 pm ET)
                   

                Tommy,

                I will soon be moving out of Missouri for a job change, so I thought I better change my moniker.  I am a chemist and a Harley rider, so I chose Chromium. 

                 

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                • Author by tommy (May 16, 2008 5:24 pm ET)
                     
                  Good Luck on the job/relocation......you are the first one I have ever seen to inform of a moniker change, and it's a good one.
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            • Author by Governor (May 16, 2008 6:28 pm ET)
                 

              This is all about getting Barr exposure and pushing for his media attention so he can swipe some of McCain's votes.  It's politically driven, not media fairness at all - to even include Nader as some cpmparison is disingenuous.

              It's about fairness in exposure for third party candidates.

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      • Author by SFnomad (May 16, 2008 2:39 pm ET)
           
        It's here to keep the WITH people busy.
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        • Author by tommy (May 16, 2008 2:46 pm ET)
             
          Oh please, the few of us there are here already have our hands full.
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          • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (May 16, 2008 4:57 pm ET)
               
            Agree 100%, Tommy, Nice metaphor.I always picture the WITH patrol pleasing themselves and keeping their hands busy.
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            • Author by tommy (May 16, 2008 5:26 pm ET)
                 
              Col, If you can "picture it", then you must be quite pleased.....you have our permission.  ;)
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              • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (May 16, 2008 9:59 pm ET)
                   

                I don't need your permission to identify jerkoffs, but thanks anyway. ;0)

                BTW, Tommy, do you think God's getting a little more "progressive"? Gay marriage only got us a moderate spring heat wave.I was ready for hurricanes and locusts.

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                • Author by mr. l (May 16, 2008 10:15 pm ET)
                     
                  God's a little spent after Myanmar and China.  I assume their gayness was getting out of control. 
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                • Author by bruce1ace (May 17, 2008 10:42 am ET)
                     
                  It's been predicted for years that a part of California was going to fall into the ocean.  You might want to look into some (soon to be) new beach front property as a potential investment.  I'm just sayin'.
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    • Author by jeter2 (May 16, 2008 2:43 pm ET)
         

      "Meet the Press" Executive Producer Betsy Fischer tells FishbowlDC:

      Meet the Press has a long history of interviewing third party presidential candidates ... . We would certainly be open to having Rep. Barr back on Meet the Press to discuss his candidacy.

      Well there ya go.

      Everyone feel better?

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      • Author by Governor (May 16, 2008 2:46 pm ET)
           

        Everyone feel better?

         

        I think that's a question best directed at the people who got bent out of shape about the question being asked in the first place.  So how do you feel?

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        • Author by jeter2 (May 16, 2008 2:58 pm ET)
             

          You got that backwards again Gov. No surprise there...

          I didn't care whether Barr appeared on Meet The Press. That was MMFA, you & a slew of Libs that were overwhelming bent out of shape insisting that if Nader was given face time, then Barr should get a Timmy interview too.

          How do I feel you ask?

          Already bored having to respond to the likes of you.

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          • Author by Governor (May 16, 2008 3:09 pm ET)
               
            I didn't care whether Barr appeared on Meet The Press.

            Well, for a guy how didn't care you sure wrote a lot about a possible Barr appearance on MTP (one of your several posts about it)...

            I would have expected a thread here maybe next Monday. Since Russert had Nader as a guest, then one would expect he'd invite Barr on as well. And as soon as possible. If he doesn't, MMFA would certainly be within their rights to point this out and then ask if Meet The Press was going to extend an invitation.

             

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            • Author by tommy (May 16, 2008 3:13 pm ET)
                 

              Wow Jeter, I had forgotten how dead-on that post of yours was on this topic a couple of days ago......right on the M O N E Y.

              Thanks Gov, for the reminder. 

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              • Author by jeter2 (May 16, 2008 3:17 pm ET)
                   

                Ha! Tommy you know that fact will go right over Gov's head.

                 

                 

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                • Author by tommy (May 16, 2008 3:18 pm ET)
                     
                  Another on the M O N E Y post J, look below........it just did.
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                  • Author by jeter2 (May 16, 2008 3:22 pm ET)
                       

                    Wow!! Too funny.

                    Tommy, I used to think Gov was just pretending to be numb, now I know he really is.

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                    • Author by Governor (May 16, 2008 3:40 pm ET)
                         
                      Umm... you two think the prior posting of the 'Will Barr Be On MTP' item was dead wrong and should not have been asked. Now we're seeing that it's played a part in the possible fulfillment of Barr appearing on MTP in the issue of fairness to third party candidates.  Why exactly are you two running victory laps?
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                      • Author by tommy (May 16, 2008 3:42 pm ET)
                           
                        Gov, I think we've both run circles around you enough on this, but you're cute for wanting our attention anyway.  Occupy youself elsewhere now, go on......
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                        • Author by Governor (May 16, 2008 3:58 pm ET)
                             
                          As far as the actual topic of this item goes, I don't think you or Jeter have a clue about what's transpiring here.  I mean, why else would you be taking so many off-topic personal swipes at me without discussing the topic.  On Monday, MMFA raised a question of fairness, you and Jeter objected, the question was later posed to MTP, and MTP then went on record stating they’re open to Barr being the program.
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              • Author by Governor (May 16, 2008 3:17 pm ET)
                   
                You're welcome.  It's nice to see you've learned why this item is here.  Bravo to you!
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                • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (May 17, 2008 5:30 am ET)
                     
                  Governor, I'm not sure exactly what you're doing, but keep it up. You've got Tommy and Jeter having hot flashes.I actually like those two (in a relative sense, compared to the really crazy wingnuts), but it's entertaining to see them on the receiving end of the annoying thing.
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      • Author by tommy (May 16, 2008 2:57 pm ET)
           

        Jeter,

        Those of who us merely asked about the premature nature of the thread in the first place have always felt fine.  It's those that got all bent out of shape, and always do, when any one of us question a threads placement here......they get so pissy and defensive, I share your concern, let's hope they are calmer now knowing Barr will be on MTP.

        Poor dears...... 

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        • Author by jeter2 (May 16, 2008 3:03 pm ET)
             

          We keep forgetting some here don't look kindly on those of us that dare to ask questions or disagree with their opinion. Ah well, tough :-)

          Yeah Tommy let's hope they'll be a lot calmer...though I think Gov might need his binky or he'll just keep squawking ;-)

          I'm gonna ignore the child.

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          • Author by tommy (May 16, 2008 3:05 pm ET)
               
            Well, I hope you're better at ingoring than the good Governor is.  He vowed to stop reading and responding to me and that lasted one day.....if it wasn't for you and I, who does he have left?  
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            • Author by jeter2 (May 16, 2008 3:26 pm ET)
                 

              Kinda sad isn't it?

              Poor little Gov. But I think we'd do him a huge favor by ignoring him. Might force him to go try to make some cyber buds.

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        • Author by Governor (May 16, 2008 3:03 pm ET)
             

          Barr will be on MTP.

           
          You’re jumping the gun here. MTP is “open to having” Barr on the program.

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    • Author by Sueelldd (May 16, 2008 2:45 pm ET)
         
      Great just what we need , someone who was the leading Clinton smear monger in Bob Barr on meet the press.
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      • Author by Governor (May 16, 2008 2:52 pm ET)
           
        Is she still a viable candidate?
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        • Author by IRONY 101 (May 16, 2008 3:02 pm ET)
             
          Sure, she won West Virginia just the other day...picked up 100% of the hillbilly racist vote.  ;>)
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          • Author by jeter2 (May 16, 2008 3:13 pm ET)
               

            Dear Irony,

            The West Virginia Chamber Of Commerce wants to have a word with you.

            They say you're giving their state a bad name.

            Just a suggestion. If they ask to meet with you...wear a helmet & body armor.

            Your Friend,

            Jeter

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            • Author by IRONY 101 (May 16, 2008 3:57 pm ET)
                 

              LOL...Thanks, Jeter...I know you're covering my back, man.

              I'm going up to West Virginia in a few days to take a meeting with those folks but I'm not taking my assistant, Mustafa. with me. I will be taking 50 pounds of prime possum meat as a peace offering, however.  ;>)

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              • Author by jeter2 (May 16, 2008 5:00 pm ET)
                   

                Irony, one more thought... you might want to take along a guitar & learn how to play and sing that old John Denver classic ;-)

                Country roads, take me home

                To the place I belong

                West virginia, mountain momma

                Take me home, country roads

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                • Author by IRONY 101 (May 16, 2008 5:03 pm ET)
                     
                  More like a banjo...  ;>)
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                  • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (May 16, 2008 5:29 pm ET)
                       
                    Banjo? College boy, eh? it's banjy & git-fiddle.
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                    • Author by IRONY 101 (May 16, 2008 6:54 pm ET)
                         
                      LOL... Busted...you got me on that one, Colonel. I STANDS corrected.  ;>)
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        • Author by nerzog (May 16, 2008 3:06 pm ET)
             
          Sue may be referring to Bill. Wasn't Barr the first one to introduce articles of impeachment, long before Monica Lewinski even came up?
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          • Author by Sueelldd (May 16, 2008 3:08 pm ET)
               
            Yes I was refering to Former President Clinton and Bob Barr who smeared the former President to no end. I dont want that slimeball on MTP, why should America be exposed to someone with that mich hate.
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            • Author by nerzog (May 16, 2008 3:15 pm ET)
                 
              So he can siphon votes away from Grampy McBush.
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              • Author by tommy (May 16, 2008 3:25 pm ET)
                   

                Ahh, I am shocked. 

                MMFA made it seem like in their original thread that it was because Nader got a certain % of vote as compared to the previous Libertarian party candidate, in the interest of fairness and comparable vote percecentages and all.

                Are you telling me that MMFA wants to push Barr on MTP to siphon votes away from McCain?  You mean it's a political calculation on MMFA's part and not in the express interest of media fairness.

                Wow..... 

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                • Author by Governor (May 16, 2008 3:32 pm ET)
                     

                  Are you telling me that MMFA wants to push Barr on MTP to siphon votes away from McCain?  You mean it's a political calculation on MMFA's part and not in the express interest of media fairness.

                   

                  Yes. Tommy. All. Libs. Share. The. Same. Brain. And. What. Nerzog. Wrote. Can. Be. Veiwed. As. The. Same. Views. Of. All. Other. People. You. Brand. As. Liberals. Including. Everyone. At. MMFA. 

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                  • Author by tommy (May 16, 2008 3:39 pm ET)
                       
                    Well, I would take Nerzog's opinion over most here, we disagree often but he is honest.  I have much respect for him, you, on the other hand?......ah......No.
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                    • Author by nerzog (May 16, 2008 5:46 pm ET)
                         
                      I appreciate that, Tommy. However, I must disclose that my post does only reflect wishful thinking on my part, and is not necessarily shared by MMFA, its affiliates, staff, management or other Liberals. (Though I'm guessing that they feel the same way)
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    • Author by Dem02020 (May 16, 2008 3:04 pm ET)
         

       

      It reminds me of how truly smart are little kids, and of how they learn everything by experience, and how they interpret all the words they hear, by the context in which they hear them used (little kids having no other way, they being unable as yet to read Merriam-Webster's Dictionary, or to have anybody who does read that standard, take the time to define words for them)...

      And so picking up on the meanings of words from experience, and context, when they ask their mom for some snack-related toy-related play-related exception to the rules and the routine of the mom-kid day, and the mom says:

      "We'll see... maybe."

      They frown (and maybe worse), because they know (from experience) that that means "no".

       

      But all is not lost, in keeping one step ahead of such sharp kids, who figure words out from their context, and from their experiences... mom can still put them off, and put off their frowning (or worse), simply by changing the words, to words the little kids haven't learned yet, what they truly mean...

      "I'm open to it" mom says.

      Which sends the little kid away all optimistic (which is a word few little kids know the meaning of, but a things almost all kids are), thinking "Cool! She's open to it!"...

       

      And then along the way, by learning from experience, and by learning what words mean from the context in which they are used, the little kid realizes that that's just another way of saying "no".

       

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    • Author by interestingobserver (May 16, 2008 6:37 pm ET)
         
      Has MMFA become the watchdog of the right all of the sudden??  The fact that they would have Nader on but not bar shows there is bias against conservatives.  Barr, after all, is more conservative than Nader.
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      • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (May 16, 2008 10:08 pm ET)
           
        Did you really miss the whole point, or are you trying to be clever?
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    • Author by eweston8542983 (May 16, 2008 7:39 pm ET)
         

      As a money draw, try this on for size.

      McCain vs Barr!!! A conservative mano a mano!

      Refereed/moderated by Chris Mathrews!

      CM actually roasted a phone jock over the use of Chamberline's name. A rare cudo to him for that.

       

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    • Author by LarryE (May 16, 2008 11:48 pm ET)
         

      Okay, let's sum up. A few days ago, in the wake of Barr's announcement, MMFA wondered if MTP would have him on, as they did Nader. It prompted protests from the usual quarters, repeatedly grousing that it was premature even to ask the question.

      Apparently, not everyone agreed, as fishbowlDC thought it worthwhile to ask MTP directly. They got an answer which MMFA has now passed on.

      What we see in response to that is pretty much the same voices that complained about MMFA asking the question now complaining about MMFA telling them the answer!

      Which seems to make this another illustration of the fact that some folks are here not to discuss, debate, educate, or enlighten, but only to find a way to gripe about as many posts as they can.

      Footnote: I wonder what the response would have been if MMFA had not published this item and the grousers later found out of MTP's expression if willingness to have Barr on. While it's obviously impossible to know for sure, I feel quite confident that cries of MMFA having "suppressed" or "concealed" the "truth" would have rung through the comments.

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    • Author by notbuying (May 17, 2008 9:52 am ET)
         
      Allow me to explain the point of this item, since nearly all of the previous posts miss it. The logic is quite simple. When Nader announced another possible presidential run a few months back, Meet the Press booked him immediately. With this post MMFA is implicitly asking if Meet the Press will be as interested in Barr's candidacy. The response to fishbowl suggests they are not. Hence the alleged bias. Really, guys, it's not that complicated.
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      • Author by interestingobserver (May 17, 2008 10:10 am ET)
           
        So there is bias against conservatives in the msm? I thought MMFA was intended to expose bias against liberals in the msm.  Interesting, but welcome, change of mission...
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    • Author by eweston8542983 (May 17, 2008 11:35 am ET)
         
      I feel your rhetorical feelings will soon be crushed. Just like mine, but thats what they're there for.
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