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IBD editorial quoted Will's false claim after Newsweek issued correction

May 21, 2008 5:28 pm ET
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SUMMARY: In criticizing Sen. Barack Obama for proposing to "lift[] the tax cap on earnings subject to the 12.4% Social Security tax, which now covers only the first $102,000," an Investor's Business Daily editorial quoted a false assertion made by George Will that a "Chicago police officer married to a Chicago public-school teacher, each with 20 years on the job, have a household income of $147,501, so you (Obama) would take another $5,642 from them." Newsweek issued a correction of Will's false claim the day before the IBD editorial appeared.

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A May 20 Investor's Business Daily editorial claimed, "[Sen. Barack] Obama also said he'd consider raising payroll taxes. Indeed he would. Obama would save grandma and grandpa by bankrupting their grandchildren. He has proposed lifting the tax cap on earnings subject to the 12.4% Social Security tax, which now covers only the first $102,000," The editorial added: "As George Will points out, a 'Chicago police officer married to a Chicago public-school teacher, each with 20 years on the job, have a household income of $147,501, so you (Obama) would take another $5,642 from them.' " But Will's assertion -- in a May 2 Newsweek column, from which IBD quoted approvingly -- that the payroll tax is assessed by household is false; the Social Security tax is assessed on individuals, so raising the payroll tax income cap would have no effect on individuals whose income is below the current income cap.

Indeed, on May 19 -- the day before the IBD editorial appeared -- Newsweek issued a correction to the May 2 column, in which Will asserted: "You [Obama] favor eliminating the cap on earnings subject to the 12.4 percent Social Security tax, which now covers only the first $102,000. A Chicago police officer married to a Chicago public-school teacher, each with 20 years on the job, have a household income of $147,501, so you would take another $5,642 from them." Newsweek noted that "because the Social Security tax is assessed individually, and the couple each earns less than the current cap, any elimination of that cap will not have an effect on their tax burden."

According to his campaign website, Obama supports "increasing the maximum amount of earnings covered by Social Security" above the current level of "the first $102,000 a worker," but during the last Democratic debate, he said he would consider a "doughnut hole," exempting from a tax increase those making less than $200,000 or $250,000.

From the May 20 Investor's Business Daily editorial:

As for raising the retirement age, it's an option that's been considered by politicians of both parties, even by Barack Obama.

In a May 2007 interview with George Stephanopoulos on ABC's "This Week," Obama said he'd consider raising the retirement age himself. Obama also said he'd consider raising payroll taxes. Indeed he would. Obama would save grandma and grandpa by bankrupting their grandchildren. He has proposed lifting the tax cap on earnings subject to the 12.4% Social Security tax, which now covers only the first $102,000.

As George Will points out, a "Chicago police officer married to a Chicago public-school teacher, each with 20 years on the job, have a household income of $147,501, so you (Obama ) would take another $5,642 from them."

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    • Author by Eric Jaffa (May 21, 2008 6:14 pm ET)
         

      The editors of "Investor's Business Daily" should understand at least the basics of Social Security.

      Apparently, they don't.

       

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      • Author by MoonbatYouBet (May 21, 2008 6:33 pm ET)
           

        Kind of surprising that supposed experts on matters economic would be so grossly mistaken about such an elementary basic of how Social Security withholding works, isn't it? 

        It makes one start to think that perhaps this isn't so much a mistake as it is a BLATANT LIE.

        "But George Will said it first" say the defenders of the reprehensible.

        That does not excuse passing on the untruth, especially when it is your job to present truthful economic information.  Repeating the lies or mistakes of another person when you have the knowledge to prove them wrong or untrue is intentionally passing on the false information.  If the first person was merely mistaken and not deliberately lying, you have no such excuse.  You are lying.

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    • Author by therick (May 21, 2008 8:36 pm ET)
         
      Hate to admit it. but George Will could be right, if one of them earns $147,500 and the other earns $1.       :-)
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      • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (May 22, 2008 12:52 am ET)
           

        So, Rick, you're saying that Will is not necessarily wrong? There is a hypothetical situation where he could be accurate? WITH???

        I know you're trying to be ridiculous, but I have to tell you that if you think that's an unbelievably absurd attempt at refuting an MMFA item, you're not reading enough of the wingnuts posts.

        Kick it up a notch, pardner !

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      • Author by albertsenj (May 22, 2008 10:22 am ET)
           
        Given that Will specified that both were employed that position doesn't work. I KNOW cops & teachers are underpaid but, no one can seriously posit that either a cop or a teacher with 20 years on the job was only making $1. 
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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (May 22, 2008 11:37 am ET)
           
        If the Pub's had there way the schoolteacher would earn $1.  I doubt they's give the Cop 147K though.  They might be tough on crime, but cop's are still union.
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    • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (May 22, 2008 1:01 pm ET)
         

      IBD has the same initials as Irritable Bowel Disease.

      And about the same output. 

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    • Author by steve52 (May 22, 2008 1:34 pm ET)
         

      Of course the IBD editors understand how it works. They're lying. Are you surprised? Republicans always lie. If they told the truth about their positions they wouldn't have any support.

      As for George Will, he probably doesn't know how the tax system works. He's a pundit, and gets paid to repeat winger talking points. He doesn't need to know anything.

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      • Author by open_mind (May 22, 2008 9:37 pm ET)
           
        Let's not be too hard on Will.  At least he (and Newsweek) admitted his mistake.  Not many cons do that.
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    • Author by bigjoec9154 (May 22, 2008 3:14 pm ET)
         

      I'm thinking that they decided to go with the obvious misstatement of fact in order to cloak the more subtle one. The editorial claims that "Obama would save grandma and grandpa by bankrupting their grandchildren".

      That's just not true. Social Security's chief actuary projects enough money to pay out all current and future benefits promised under the current system up until 2041. At that point, SS will either need to start borrowing funds to pay benefits or reduce benefit payments by 22%. See the 2008 Trustees report: http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/TRSUM/trsummary.html.

      The grandparents on SS right now will be just fine either way. Thus what Obama is trying to do is fix Social Security for future recipients (current parents and grandkids) by adding an additional tax burden on high-earning young grandparents, parents and kids.

       

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    • Author by newagestepper (May 22, 2008 6:49 pm ET)
         
      Will is an egomaniac who does not let the facts get in his way.  When i was taking a graduate level political science class at UCF the Moscow CNN corespondent was a guest speaker.  She mentioned how when in London Will was there to do a piece on British politics.  She offered him access to their files.  Will turned them down.  He already knew what he was going to write before he arrived in London.  Same issue, different day/year.
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