Matthews suggested Obama was never middle class, does not "have that experience that ... most Americans have"
SUMMARY: On MSNBC, Chris Matthews asked if there was "something missing" in Sen. Barack Obama's "biography that people can identify with." Matthews continued: "He's gone from being a poor kid, growing up in Hawaii, in Indonesia, part of his youth, mixed family background, had to struggle, worked with community organizations; went to these incredibly elite schools, Columbia and Harvard Law, making Law Review and all that. He missed the middle part." Matthews went on to state: "Does he have that experience that people -- most Americans have? Does he connect on the basic struggling-class level? And I'm not sure he does." But Obama's biography, Dreams from My Father, directly rebuts Matthews' assertion that Obama "missed the middle part."
During the 7 p.m. ET hour of MSNBC's June 3 special election coverage, anchor Chris Matthews asked Democratic Leadership Council chairman Harold Ford Jr. if there was "something missing" in Sen. Barack Obama's "biography that people can identify with." Matthews continued: "He's gone from being a poor kid, growing up in Hawaii, in Indonesia, part of his youth, mixed family background, had to struggle, worked with community organizations; went to these incredibly elite schools, Columbia and Harvard Law, making Law Review and all that. He missed the middle part. Most Americans don't know anything about being dirt poor and don't know anything about the Ivy League. They're sort of in this struggling class. The people in the middle worried about paying bills, for whom going to the movies, paying 35, 40 bucks for the whole cost of going to the movies with your wife, is just too much money, OK?" Matthews went on to state: "Does he have that experience that people -- most Americans have? Does he connect on the basic struggling-class level? And I'm not sure he does." But Obama's biography, Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance (Crown, 1995), directly rebuts Matthews' assertion that Obama "missed the middle part."
Matthews himself noted that Obama worked with "community organizations." Indeed, in describing in Dreams from My Father his work as a community organizer in Chicago prior to attending Harvard Law School, Obama wrote that his salary started at "ten thousand dollars the first year, with a two-thousand-dollar travel allowance to buy a car [Page 142]." According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics' inflation calculator, Obama's 1985 starting salary translates to $19,964.96 in 2008 dollars, with an additional $3,992 travel allowance. Obama also wrote in the 2004 preface of Dreams from My Father that since the book's initial publication in 1995, "[m]y wife and I bought a house, were blessed with two gorgeous, healthy, and mischievous daughters, and struggled to pay the bills."
Additionally, in his biography of Obama, Obama: From Promise to Power (Amistad, 2007), Chicago Tribune reporter David Mendell wrote of Obama's middle-class upbringing:
Beyond his advice not to be loose with his money, Lolo imparted a store of tough-minded, masculine wisdom to young Barry. Amid the widespread privation of Third World Indonesia, Lolo had lived a hard existence, extremely different from the relatively comfortable, middle-class American experience to which Obama and his mother were accustomed. [Page 33]
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Obama's grandparents maneuvered him into Punahou; his grandfather's boss, an alumnus, intervened to have Obama accepted. And Madelyn's job at the bank helped pay the steep tuition. By living in a modest apartment and sending Obama (and eventually Maya) to private school, his grandparents had sacrificed their own prosperity for the sake of Obama and his sister. "We never suffered," Madelyn answered when I asked what specific things were given up to send her grandchildren to Punahou. "As you can see, we live in an apartment instead of a house. ... But I think we could have done the other if we had wanted. But I traveled, you know, and spent money on the kids -- the kids and traveling were priorities. We're not poverty-stricken." [Page 36]
From the 7 p.m. ET hour of MSNBC's June 3 special election coverage:
FORD: The beginning of his speech in New Orleans tonight, he lays out that you will hear a lot of speeches, you'll get a lot of press releases, and you'll get a lot of talk from the Obama campaign that he, John McCain, represents a third term for George Bush. He says that's false. He makes clear that he's a reformer and that can actually implement change. Tim's last point, and I hope the Obama campaign listened closely: You have to identify those three big themes and wrap some real substance -- simple, understandable substance -- but you've got to wrap some substance around that. He has time to do this over the next several months. We ran out of time in Tennessee, and hopefully we'll get another shot at it in the coming years, but he has an unbelievable opportunity, Senator Obama does, over the next five months to make this case to the American people. Not along black lines, white lines, Hispanic lines, Asian lines, Native American lines, but as an American. In his story and his biography, there's not been a story as quintessential as his, a biography that is quintessential as his, running for the presidency, and he has this great opportunity.
MATTHEWS: But isn't there something missing -- isn't there something really missing in his biography that people can identify with? He's gone from being a poor kid, growing up in Hawaii, in Indonesia, part of his youth, mixed family background, had to struggle, worked with community organizations; went to these incredibly elite schools, Columbia and Harvard Law, making Law Review and all that. He missed the middle part. Most Americans don't know anything about being dirt poor and don't know anything about the Ivy League. They're sort of in this struggling class. The people in the middle worried about paying bills, for whom going to the movies, paying 35, 40 bucks for the whole cost of going to the movies with your wife, is just too much money, OK?
FORD: Senator Obama a few years --
MATTHEWS: Does he have that experience that people -- most Americans have? Does he connect on the basic struggling-class level? And I'm not sure he does.
FORD: Before he wrote these two terrific books, he still owed money on his student loans. Barack Obama and his wife understand, his children understand in many, many ways the plight and the reality of an overwhelming majority of Americans. I might add Senator McCain may make this case, but he is married -- and this is no disrespect or slight to his wonderful wife -- but he married into a wonderful beer fortune. The reality is Barack Obama finds himself not only able to relate throughout his political life, but in his formative years, in his early years. And I might add, who in their right mind would not root for their child, does not want their child to go to the very best schools? When you look at how Barack was born, where he was born, the conditions he was born, here's a young man who lived around the world who has not only the -- a global DNA, but lived the world in many ways. And at a time in which America's standing and credibility is questioned in many ways and misunderstood, his candidacy and his presidency, in many ways, will answer many of those questions. And, again, I don't mean to slight senator McCain, but to your question, Chris, just a few years ago, he and Michelle both, Mrs. Obama, still owed on their student loans. So, this is a young man who, although has lived an American life and has been afforded the opportunity to go to some of the great universities and great learning centers in this country, he worked his way there.
MATTHEWS: So it's Saul Alinsky against the beer baron. I have to tell you -- I know, I know --
FORD: No, no, no. Again, I want to say -- it's a fortune, it's a fortune --
MATTHEWS: It's so funny, I never heard it put together he married into a beer fortune and he doesn't know how what it's like to sweat.
FORD: And I don't -- no, no, don't get me wrong. Whatever fortune, this -- her family worked their way also, but understand, we cannot at any moment suggest he doesn't understand middle-class America. He gets it, understands it, lives it, has worked and has tried his hardest as a senator from Illinois to represent and help improve the lives of those. And what I hope he and John McCain will debate about in this campaign is where they want to take the country. And do it well.
MATTHEWS: OK, Harold Ford -- Harold Ford Jr., thanks, that's all the time we have this time.
FORD: Thank you.
MATTHEWS: We'll be back with you later.















Come on Matthews....... are you fricken kidding me?
Obama is the proverbial American dream who was able to go to school and because the great person he is!
Yes, he went to an Ivy league school...... and what.... we are supposed to hate him for doing what we all dream of doing?
He's popular, he remembers his roots, and will do great things for this country!
Stop making a fool of yourself Chris...... leave that to FOX Noise and the lunatic right-wing fringe!
CHRIS MATTHEWS: Let's go now to Roger Simon. Again your thoughts on last night's magic moment for a lot of Americans, in fact, me included. I, that picture is right out of Camelot, as far as I'm concerned.
(speaking on Obama's win)
MediaMatters forgot to report on this. And the innumerable other thrills going up Matthews's leg for Obama.
"He's gone from being a poor kid, growing up in Hawaii, in Indonesia, part of his youth, mixed family background, had to struggle, worked with community organizations; went to these incredibly elite schools, Columbia and Harvard Law, making Law Review and all that. He missed the middle part."
Tweety misses a lot of things, too. Like the facts....
I may be wrong but the middle class connected with both FDR and JFK and they were never middle class.
So according to Matthews, Obama can't connect with middle america because he's only known poverty and wealth with no stops in between.
I may be wrong but the middle class connected with both FDR and JFK and they were never middle class.
Using that "logic", no one can connect with John McCain, either. He grew up in a military family (son of an admiral), and lived a military life himself until he dumped his disabled first wife to shack up with his sugar mommy, Cindy Lou.....
A how could anyone POSSIBLE connect to Ronald Reagan, a man who spend is entire life pretending to be someone else?
Tweety is running out of arguments.....
Geez Matthews, you are such an idiot & to think I used to stick up for you here.
I dunno Chris, JFK went from wealthy to um, wealthy. Did he miss something? Yet he somehow connected with the voters. Others here I'm sure could give many other examples.
You're exactly right Jeter. I think this "connection" argument is just ridiculous anyway, at least for me. I don't want a candidate to somehow pander to me and tell me they feel my pain, or they will fix my problems, pat me on the head and blubber on about their humble beginnings and they know this struggle or that struggle. So what if they do, or don't. I don't care.
What I want is to be treated and campaigned to like an adult, told what challenges we face as a nation, foreign and domestic, what our options are, their vision and their path, the tough decisions and choices that I may not always agree with, but I can respect honest debate and discussion and candor from them, always, for us, the people they work for.
Is that so much to ask for in any candidate? Stop treating me like I am a child.
What I want is to be treated and campaigned to like an adult
As long as your candidates repeatedly say that they support the troops as they point to their lapel pin.
Won't happen. We have two major parties: The Daddy Party (GOP), and the Mommy Party (Dems). Both have a streak of looking at we ordinary folks as hairless apes who, without Their Divine Guidance, would poke our eyes out with scissors or pointy sticks. We're children that must be coddled and observed and scrutinized.
We might as well turn America into one, huge daycare center/assisted-living community. We're headed that way as it is, might as well get it over with.
Have a government-approved day!
And another thing Chris...... did you miss the 'middle' part of life? Should we be listening to you?
I realize that running for president requires a bit more than that of a TV personality...... everyone about anyone can or will find something about a person that is somehow precieved as elitist and will forever bring out the jealocy in some people about others that have done what they themselves didn't, couldn't or failed at!
Reading between the lines here, I think it's clear that Matthews would rather not be delivering such spectacular election analysis. He’d prefer to be bowling with average Americans at a small town dinette.
And afterwards, Tweety would meet David Brooks at the salad bar in Applebee's... :-)
Shouldn't that pose trouble for him connecting with "real folks"?
Oh, I forgot -- he's got a barbecue grill.
BO is bit out of touch with the American people, with his fancy clothes, words and schools. He reads books too! How bout learning how to bowl before running for president, Barack? Or learning that regular people drink orange juice in diners?
I'll have to check with O'reilly about the boycott. Did you know that he almost dismantled France's economy, single-handedly, by calling on his listeners to boycott wine from France?
I remember back in 2003, when I lived in Colorado and the whole "Boycott France/Freedom Fries" thing was getting started. On the local news one evening, they showed how a local restaurnat was "teaching France a lesson" by smashing all their bottles of French wine and letting it run off into a storm drain. But since the owners of that restaurant had already PAID for that wine, the only thing they did was take a chunk out of their own bottom line.....
Interesting, Matthews.
Let's turn this amazingly critical eye of yours on our last few presidents. Let's see if we can find any "middle class cred."
GW Bush? Nope.
Clinton? Maybe. In fact, some would argue that's why most Washington blue-bloods hated him; because he wasn't "one of them."
GHW Bush? Nope.
Reagan? Definitely not.
Carter? Yep.
MATTHEWS: It's so funny, I never heard it put together he married into a beer fortune and he doesn't know how what it's like to sweat.
I can't even make any sense out of this sentence. I can only assume Matthews is on the verge of a meltdown because Ford isn't bowing down and worshipping at McCain's feet like him and everyone else he ever has on his show.
So, from what Chris is saying, Obama went from being too poor to relate to most of the country and immediately became too elite/wealthy to relate to most of the country? What??
Tweety would never take this line of attack against a conservative...
Would never dare to impugn a re-puke-lican by insinuating he or she might be an elitist.
He just wouldn't do it. He's a corporate suck-up and a hack. He'd probably lose his job if he dared to suggest a Con might be an elitist.
Would never dare to impugn a re-puke-lican by insinuating he or she might be an elitist.
You're right. After all, Dubya went to Yale AND Harvard, yet Tweety always gushes about how down to earth that creep is.
In starting this attack
on nominee Barack
Tweety proves to have a knack
for journalistic quack.
Let's face it: he's a hack!
In case my message was lost in the rhyme,
permit me to clarify just one more time:
I find Matthews' pronouncements simply obscene,
he's part of the republican propaganda machine.
Barrack drank malt liquor as a teen and now he drinks oj...can he really connect with the beer drinkers?
ah, and so it begins, right on schedule. well, i feel kind of sorry for harold ford, neither of these guys is going to be an easy sell. of course, mccain has his war hero status, and the fact that he's bugf**k crazy going for him. obama has, well, um, wright and rezko going for him, i guess. ok, obama looks better in a suit than mccain, and "hope and change"!
right, let's not forget "hope and change"! with a big majority dem congress, mccain can at least be contained, i'm afraid they'd roll over dead for obama, not wanting to be called racists and all.
remember, "we are the change we've been waiting for!"! small change, no doubt.
Mathews actually believes there's some substance to his habitual character assassination.
This guy is operating at a Junior HS maturity level.
What about Obama's church teaching its flock to "not seek middle-classness"? Sounds kinda self-defeating.
Please clarify what "not seeking middle-classness" means to Obama's former church. Were they saying you shouldn't aspire to be more wealthy and well-off, or were they preaching that you shouldn't let materialism and worldly possessions become an obsession that consumes your existence? Those are two totally different things.
Matthews has "lost it"
I heard this exchange, and found myself shouting back. Is it arragance, laziness, stupidity, sensationalism, prejudice, or a medical problem that makes Matthews utter such nonsense?
He has NO CLUE about Senator's Obama's ability to connect based on his economic experiences with the middle class. But my "clue" based on listening to Senator Obama, reading his books, and analysing his policies is that he understands that it's middle class America that's becoming an endangered species.
Something that Matthews can't articulate or apparently know.
The media's fascination (including Matthews with his love/hare relationship with Hillary Clinton) with Senator's Clinton's ability to get some middle class voters in states like Pennsylvania with her ever evolving populist message in the last weeks of the primary campaign is superficial and has no bearing on who Senator Obama is and what he will do, and who will vote for him.John Edwards carried the baton to start (and finish, when he dropped out) picking up where he left off with John Kerry. This message is one that resonates with Senator Obama, and Matthews is a fool!!!!!!
Where is the "elite, ivy educated" talk on Bush Jr. ? Where was it? He was not qualified for the job of President, and look where he has taken the country. His likeability factor "good 'ol boy" to have a beer with was manufactured. And we know how well liked he is now, and how in touch he is with the "middle class".
$4 gallon of gas, thanks to his and Cheney's wealth Saudi royal family and cronies, and the unheard of profit by oil companies with nice big fat tax breaks form Bush and company.
But I digress....
Matthews go home, take a rest, get off the air.