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LA Times ignored McCain's immigration reversal while writing about his electoral prospects with Latinos

June 05, 2008 5:31 pm ET
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SUMMARY: A Los Angeles Times article reported that Sen. John McCain "hopes that his support for legalizing many undocumented immigrants, and the political price he paid for it within his party, will keep him competitive with Latinos." Yet the article did not note that during the race for the Republican nomination McCain reversed himself on the issue of immigration; he now says that "we've got to secure the borders first" and that he "would not" support the comprehensive immigration reform legislation he once sponsored.

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In a June 5 Los Angeles Times article, staff writer Michael Finnegan wrote that in the Southwest, where there is an "influx of Latinos," Sen. John McCain "hopes that his support for legalizing many undocumented immigrants, and the political price he paid for it within his party, will keep him competitive with Latinos." Yet Finnegan did not note that during the race for the Republican nomination, McCain reversed himself on the issue of border security, saying that "we've got to secure the borders first" -- a position at odds with his prior assertion that border security could not be disaggregated from other aspects of comprehensive immigration reform without being rendered ineffective. Indeed, McCain said in January that he "would not" support the comprehensive immigration reform legislation he once sponsored with Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-MA).

From the June 5 Los Angeles Times article:

In the Southwest, McCain holds an edge in Arizona, his home state. But in Colorado, Nevada and New Mexico, rapid population growth -- and an influx of Latinos -- has led to newly favorable conditions for Democrats.

Bush, who drew 45% of the Latino vote in 2004, carried the three states. McCain hopes that his support for legalizing many undocumented immigrants, and the political price he paid for it within his party, will keep him competitive with Latinos. Also comforting to McCain: Latinos have sided with Clinton over Obama in Democratic contests, most recently on Sunday in the Puerto Rico primary.

For Obama, perhaps the biggest challenge lies in three big industrial states that offer a rich trove of electoral votes: Ohio, Pennsylvania and Michigan.

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    • Author by wzwriter (June 05, 2008 5:40 pm ET)
         
      It's rather hard to get people to vote for you after you've had them deported.....   :-)
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      • Author by Science101 (June 05, 2008 9:15 pm ET)
           

        If they've been deported, they are denied citizenship and thus will not be voting for or against.  Illegals do not have the right to vote, and shouldn't, for either party, so its a moot point.

         

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        • Author by wzwriter (June 06, 2008 10:06 am ET)
             
          Humor and sarcasm are lost on the ignorant - as Columbus has just shown us.....
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          • Author by Science101 (June 06, 2008 12:39 pm ET)
               
            But you're trying to make a joke out of something that is a completely faslse assertion. 
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    • Author by snoopy (June 05, 2008 5:42 pm ET)
         

      He was for reform before he was against it.

      In other news, here's Tom Delay stating uncategorically that Obama is a Marxist. Do today's republicans even know how to act like adults?

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      • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (June 05, 2008 6:49 pm ET)
           

        Snoop, I've re-infiltrated the wingnut email loop I'd been deleted from, and this was the latest offering from  a bunch who are obviously fresh outta ideas.check this out.

        I realize this isn't from anybody mainstream Repooblicken, but I'll bet a good number of Real Americans got this in their email.

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        • Author by snoopy (June 05, 2008 9:17 pm ET)
             
          How ignorant is that? He'll improve relations with Africa - is that supposed to be a bad thing? Sounds racist to me...
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          • Author by Science101 (June 05, 2008 9:19 pm ET)
               
            After all the aid we currently and have previously given Africa, if the relations still need a vast turn around, then its no longer worthwhile.
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            • Author by open_mind (June 05, 2008 9:52 pm ET)
                 

              So unless they suck up to us, we should not be human to them?  I think that attitude is part of the problem we now have.

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              • Author by Science101 (June 05, 2008 10:03 pm ET)
                   
                Has nothing to do with being human...in fact, we are the most humane country in the world.  Our own citizens are being hurt financially and we're still giving.  My question to you is, when our people are down, when is enough-enough?
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        • Author by Science101 (June 05, 2008 9:26 pm ET)
             
          You dont need to go Africa or receive an email to see that.  Come to downtown Columbus, OH...we have a large Somalian base that resembles the context of those photos.
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          • Author by wzwriter (June 06, 2008 11:05 am ET)
               
            Columbus - the laundry called.  Your sheets are ready......
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        • Author by open_mind (June 05, 2008 9:59 pm ET)
             

          Snopes has several articles that debunk that email - which seems to be a hybrid of many myths.

          Here is one of the snopes articles;

          http://snopes.com/politics/obama/kenya.asp

          We should probably familiarize ourselves with the rest of the myths as we are likely to see many more of them over the next several months:

          http://snopes.com/politics/obama/obama.asp

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        • Author by mr. l (June 06, 2008 12:09 pm ET)
             
          LOL!!  I love all the random capitalized words strewn about even though  they shouldn't be.  Makes me think it must have been made from one of Bush's 'left behind' students who could only get a job with the republicant's... 
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      • Author by Science101 (June 05, 2008 9:17 pm ET)
           

        McCain hasn't said he's against reform.  He just said that he wouldn't vote for his own bill....because there is no way he can.  He says we need a secure border, and then address the rest of the issue.

        Doesn't sound like a flip flop to me, and he still hasn't formally taken a right wing stance on the topic.

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    • Author by tommy (June 05, 2008 5:42 pm ET)
         

      This whole thing is so disturbing.  Why can't any of these candidates, McCain and Obama included, stand up on this issue and stop pandering for these votes?

      Tell them flat out that we need a secure and sovereign border, that we are going to aggressively punish employers who exploit and hire cheap labor to grease their profits and drive down wages for the poorest Americans, that they are going to stop giving a wink and a nod to our citizens with this "comprehensive reform" baloney, and start acting like leaders instead of telling this group or that group what they want to hear to get elected.

      McCain can't be trusted to do it, Obama can't be trusted to do it..........it's a wash. 

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      • Author by snoopy (June 05, 2008 5:44 pm ET)
           
        Well Tommy, you can bet that whatever McCain says, it will be in Spanish...
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        • Author by Science101 (June 05, 2008 9:18 pm ET)
             
          And make no mistake how Obama will address them..."Esperanza!"
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    • Author by truthseeker77 (June 05, 2008 6:04 pm ET)
         
      Wel
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    • Author by truthseeker77 (June 05, 2008 6:14 pm ET)
         
      Well, McCain better hurry, because recent Gallup data shows Latinos support Obama by an overwhelming 62%-29% over McCain. See their website.
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      • Author by Science101 (June 05, 2008 9:21 pm ET)
           
        Is that a surprise?  The question of "whats in it for me?" definately fuels their choice.
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        • Author by open_mind (June 05, 2008 10:05 pm ET)
             
          Yes.  "What's in it for me?"...just like big business.  They need cheep labor.
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          • Author by Science101 (June 05, 2008 10:10 pm ET)
               

            You don't see too many republican citizens defending those businesses - in fact, they are the ones who want to punish and prosecute.

            Its often the left wing, such as Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, who defends those businesses.

            http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/latinamerica/la-me-raids10apr10,1,3099993.story

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            • Author by Science101 (June 05, 2008 10:12 pm ET)
                 

              On top of that, I find his quote quite humorous: Villaraigosa said ICE has targeted "established, responsible employers" in industries that have a "significant reliance on workforces that include undocumented immigrants."

              Call me crazy, but I wasn't aware that businesses who are operating against Federal Law were considered "responsible employers".

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    • Author by mefirst (June 05, 2008 7:44 pm ET)
         

      what we better start talking about is population growth.  we passed 300 million in october 2006, only the third nation in history to ever do so, china and india the other two.  according to the census bureau, we will pass the 400 million mark by 2043.   immigration will play the major part in this, through direct immigration and the higher birth rates of immigrants.  the environmental effects of this will be huge, not to mention the water shortages that already plague many of our states.  the infrastructure costs of building for this population will be tremendous.  materials like concrete and steel have soared in recent years due to competition from other countries.

      http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/10/13/300.million.over/

       

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      • Author by snoopy (June 05, 2008 9:19 pm ET)
           
        Look at the bright side - mexican women are sexy looking. We'z gonna have some real beautiful babies! ;)
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        • Author by Science101 (June 05, 2008 9:21 pm ET)
             
          and not to mention more cheap Taco Bell's open till 2am.  who can complain?
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        • Author by mefirst (June 05, 2008 10:39 pm ET)
             
          i don't really see a bright side to it.  there is none to a population that large.  environmental degradation and a lower standard of living for everyone.  not to mention trying to free ourselves from dependency on foriegn oil.  overpopulation in this country and worldwide is a cause of many of the problems we face. 
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          • Author by Science101 (June 05, 2008 10:46 pm ET)
               

            I may not agree with the "overpopulation" stuff but...

            ...we're trying to solve our own current problems  Dont have the time or resources to solve everyone elses, let alone let them live here on top of it.

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            • Author by mefirst (June 05, 2008 11:36 pm ET)
                 
              how can you not agree with the "overpopulation stuff"?  evermore people chasing the same amount of resources equals a declining standard of living for all.  it's common sense.  georgia, alabama and florida are all fighting over water from the apalachicola river.  georgia wants it for the ever expanding atlanta metro area, and florida needs fresh water in apalachicola bay to maintain a balance for the seafood industry.  many countries, including haiti, have lost their forest cover because of too many people cutting down trees.  saying overpopulation is not a problem is ignoring reality. 
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              • Author by mefirst (June 06, 2008 7:04 am ET)
                   

                yesterday schwarzenegger declared a drought in california, the first in 16 years.  lester snow, the state water resources director, notes in this story that state population has "mushroomed" since the last drought which makes it all the harder.  and it mentions a 12 billion dollar bond being proposed for reservoirs and water improvements.  exactly what i said, the cost of infrastructure for providing for that increasing population will be huge.  the same with the schools and highways that will have to be built with that much more expensive steel and concrete.  both right and left have their agendas on this.  but left or right has nothing to do with it, it's recognizing reality.  that same mushrooming population forces more urban sprawl, which groups like the sierra club refuse to recognize.  

                http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080605/ap_on_re_us/california_drought

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    • Author by wesley (June 06, 2008 7:09 am ET)
         

       -- McCain said in January that he "would not suport the comprehensive immigration reform legislation he once sponsored with Sen. Edward Kennedy" --mmfa

      mmfa continues to trot out this lame word-smithing of McCain's comments...sounding like an Alan Colmes-lite. He played politics by saying he wouldn't vote for it again...if it came up. McCain and mmfa both know that particular bill will not come up again.

      Here's a report on McCain's comments at a recent meeting of ALIPAC...Americans for Legal Immigration.

       -- Republican presidential candidate John McCain joined Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger in calling today for comprehensive immigration reform...

      McCain broadly advocated the comprehensive immigration reform plan he had backed with Democratic Sen. Edward Kennedy in Congress...

      he also advocated a humane approach that treats illegal workers as "God's children."...McCain said they should be allowed to seek legal status in a "humane and comprehensive fashion" -- 

      Honesty by mmfa and McCain would be beneficial to the debate on illegal immigration in the coming general election by giving up this silly word parsing...but I won't hold my breath.

      McCain was for amnesty yesterday...is for amnesty today...and will be for amnesty tomorrow. 

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