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Morning Joe hosts ridiculed E.D. Hill's "terrorist fist jab" comment: "Talk about self-parody"

June 10, 2008 2:11 pm ET

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SUMMARY: Morning Joe co-hosts Joe Scarborough, Mika Brzezinski, and Willie Geist criticized Fox News' E.D. Hill for teasing a segment on Barack and Michelle Obama's "fist bump" by saying, "A fist bump? A pound? A terrorist fist jab? The gesture everyone seems to interpret differently." Brzezinski called Hill's comment "idiotic," and Geist said, "Talk about self-parody."

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On the June 10 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe, co-hosts Joe Scarborough, Mika Brzezinski, and Willie Geist criticized Fox News anchor E.D. Hill for teasing a segment on Barack and Michelle Obama's on-stage "fist bump" by saying, "A fist bump? A pound? A terrorist fist jab? The gesture everyone seems to interpret differently." Geist said of the fist bump: "It's a husband and wife greeting each other. The press was completely bewildered by this. Most of us who were born after the Civil War thought nothing of it because we see it every day. But the press didn't know what to make of this 'primitive greeting' that these two people gave each other. Case in point: On Friday afternoon, Fox News said this during a tease for one of its shows." Geist then aired Hill's comment, after which Scarborough asked: "Did I just hear them call that a terrorist -- what?" Later in the segment, Brzezinski called Hill's teaser "a problem" and "idiotic."

Later, Geist aired a segment of a 2004 interview on HBO's Da Ali G Show with MSNBC analyst Pat Buchanan, during which Buchanan and Ali G (a character played by comedian Sacha Baron Cohen) "fist bumped" twice. Geist asked Buchanan: "So, Pat, let's settle this. Is the fist pound a terrorist jab? Is it a gesture?" Buchanan responded: "No. It's a gesture of solidarity."

Geist aired Hill's comment again during a later segment of the broadcast, during which Scarborough stated: "A memo to Fox -- this is not a Hamas handshake." Geist added: "Talk about self-parody. 'Terrorist fist jab? We'll tell you after the break.' "

From the June 10 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe:

GEIST: It's time for some News You Can't Use.

BRZEZINSKI: "We'll do it live."

GEIST: We've seated Pat Buchanan for good reason; you'll see why in just a moment. Fist-Bump-Gate is what this is becoming. On Tuesday night, Barack Obama --

SCARBOROUGH: Fox News tells me that this is about terrorism.

GEIST: Well, just wait a second now. Barack Obama and Michelle Obama celebrating his big wins on Tuesday night, essentially cinching the nomination, did this right here. OK?

BRZEZINSKI: That's cute.

GEIST: That's a fist bump.

BRZEZINSKI: Oh, they're cute.

GEIST: It's a husband and wife greeting each other.

SCARBOROUGH: That's sweet.

GEIST: The press was completely bewildered by this. Most of us who were born after the Civil War thought nothing of it because we see it every day. But the press didn't know what to make of this "primitive greeting" that these two people gave each other. Case in point: On Friday afternoon, Fox News said this during a tease for one of its shows.

HILL [video clip]: A fist bump? A pound? A terrorist fist jab? The gesture everyone seems to interpret differently.

BRZEZINSKI: Wow.

SCARBOROUGH: What?

BRZEZINSKI: Wow.

SCARBOROUGH: What?

BRZEZINSKI: What in the world was that?

SCARBOROUGH: Did I just hear them call that a terrorist -- what?

GEIST: No. It's not a terrorist fist jab.

BRZEZINSKI: But why -- why would she even say that?

GEIST: They've had a body lang -- now, this is Barack yesterday in North Carolina. Ready? There you go. Look at that.

BRZEZINSKI: All right.

GEIST: OK, that's Governor Mike Easley.

SCARBOROUGH: So -- so what --

BRZEZINSKI: Is everyone OK?

SCARBOROUGH: Hey, hold on a second, call out the Raleigh -- call out the National Guard, get 'em to Raleigh fast.

BRZEZINSKI: This is a problem. That was idiotic.

GEIST: I think most of us watching literally thought nothing of it until we saw the total -- and we should say it wasn't just Fox, it was some people maybe in this building too who made statements about, "What does it mean? What is this odd, historic greeting between these two people where they strike knuckles?" We see it every day. So --

SCARBOROUGH: So they seriously -- they teased that on Fox as a possible sign of terrorists --

GEIST: Terrorist gesture.

SCARBOROUGH: "We have won. America, you will burn."

GEIST: And it came from a comment on some blog, and they used it on the air. "Is it a terrorist fist jab? We'll discuss, after the break."

BRZEZINSKI: Oh no.

GEIST: Now, let me show you how you do a fist -- you want to know how you do a fist pump?

SCARBOROUGH: Yeah.

BRZEZINSKI: Show us, Willie.

GEIST: And you want to know who knows what it means to do a fist pound?

BRZEZINSKI: Who knows?

GEIST: Patrick J. Buchanan with Ali G. Let's watch.

SCARBOROUGH: My main man, Patrick J. Buchanan.

BRZEZINSKI: What? Ali G?

[begin video clip]

ALI G: Yo. Yo, fo' real. I was feeling that man, yo. Yo, is you mashed or something? You is like, so giggly.

BUCHANAN: Well, I'm a --

ALI G: You had a little puff before?

BUCHANAN: Well, yeah. A little puff before, sure.

ALI G: Respek, yo. You needs a bit of -- [edit] You better listen to the words of my man Buchanan, 'cause he know nump tings about America and the election. Listen up, word up, keep it real, west side. Big up yourself.

[end video clip]

GEIST: Bang. Pat.

BRZEZINSKI: Pat.

GEIST: Bang. OK?

SCARBOROUGH: A terrorist jab?

BRZEZINSKI: Wow.

GEIST: Not a terrorist jab, right?

BUCHANAN: There was Ali G, in my den for an hour and a half. I went into the kitchen after it was over and I said, "Shelly, something was wrong about that interview." For an hour and a half this guy --

SCARBOROUGH: Yeah.

BUCHANAN: He told me he was a rap singer from Britain, and you've got to explain things very simply to him.

SCARBOROUGH: And what was so great was -- by the way, your friend Andy Rooney put up with it seriously for ten seconds.

BRZEZINSKI: Yeah.

SCARBOROUGH: He said, "I don't know who you are, but get the hell out of my office." So Pat sat there, and he was so patient. Of all the people that have been sort of --

BUCHANAN: Had.

SCARBOROUGH: - had by him, Pat was so patient, and he somehow, WMD's became BLT's.

BUCHANAN: "Did yous find the BLT's in Iraq," you know?

SCARBOROUGH: And you know --

BUCHANAN: No WMDs, no BLTs, no mustard.

SCARBOROUGH: And he started talking about -- Pat started talking about mustard gas, and that became mustard, and then Pat -- he just played with him.

GEIST: So, Pat, let's settle this. Is the fist pound a terrorist jab?

BRZEZINSKI: Please let us know.

GEIST: Is it a gesture?

BUCHANAN: No. It's a gesture of solidarity.

GEIST: Thank you, Pat.

SCARBOROUGH: There you go.

GEIST: Case closed. Pat Buchanan settles it.

BUCHANAN: We're in it, we're together, we're with it.

[...]

GEIST: It's time for some news you can't use and, really, time for a national conversation.

BRZEZINSKI: Yes, please.

GEIST: A conversation I didn't think we needed to have, but apparently we do. This, ladies and gentlemen, is called a fist pound, or if you really want to go into the accelerated class --

BRZEZINSKI: What is? Oh.

GEIST: - "Dap." That's "dap," OK? That's when Barack Obama and his wife --

SCARBOROUGH: Boom.

BRZEZINSKI: That's nice.

GEIST: -- say hello to one another. A husband and a wife with their little greeting, wonderful.

BRZEZINSKI: That's sweet.

SCARBOROUGH: But you know --

GEIST: A lot of people confused.

SCARBOROUGH: -- I'm looking at that, and I'm wondering, you know, are they trying to say something more?

BRZEZINSKI: Yeah, maybe --

GEIST: Could they even be jihadists, perhaps?

BRZEZINSKI: What? What is wrong with you?

GEIST: That's what one person suggested on Fox News.

SCARBOROUGH: Oh, god help us.

HILL [video clip]: A fist bump? A pound? A terrorist fist jab? The gesture everyone seems to interpret differently.

GEIST: Oh, god.

SCARBOROUGH: No. No.

GEIST: And they say the media's out of touch. I don't know what they mean.

[...]

GEIST: So, it's not such a strange, mysterious greeting.

BRZEZINSKI: It isn't? Are you sure, Willie?

GEIST: Let's stop wondering about what this means.

SCARBOROUGH: This is not a Hamas --

GEIST: Now we know.

SCARBOROUGH: A memo to Fox --

BRZEZINSKI: Yes.

SCARBOROUGH: -- this is not a Hamas handshake.

BRZEZINSKI: OK.

SCARBOROUGH: This is a husband and wife --

GEIST: Talk about self-parody. "Terrorist fist jab? We'll tell you after the break."

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    • Author by jeter2 (June 10, 2008 2:20 pm ET)
         

      Please watch the video. It's hysterical.

      I watched it today on Morning Joe.

      You gotta love Pat Buchanan here :-)

      Much of what is broadcast on FOX was pretty much a joke anyway, but E.D. Hill has turned the network into a laughing stock among their competitors & viewers.

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      • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (June 10, 2008 2:26 pm ET)
           

        bUCHANA ON cOLBERT THE OTHER NIGHT WAS PRETTY FUNNY, TOO, AND YES I HAVE MY CAPS ON, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT???

        Ahem... I mean Pat was intentionally funny on that show.

        BTW, I posted a warning on another thread to anybody searching for fist related images to set their filter to a safe level. I don't know where you animals went with it, but I seem to have been flagged.

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        • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (June 10, 2008 2:50 pm ET)
             

          YES I HAVE MY CAPS ON, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT???

          LOL

          Feeling a little testy Col?

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        • Author by jeter2 (June 10, 2008 3:01 pm ET)
             

          bUCHANA ON cOLBERT THE OTHER NIGHT WAS PRETTY FUNNY, TOO, AND YES I HAVE MY CAPS ON, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT???

          Well ok then. Tell me Col. Beach what was that all supposed to mean? Did I miss something?

          BTW, I saw your *warning* on the other thread...please tell you didn't google "fisting' :-O

          Hahaha

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          • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (June 10, 2008 3:26 pm ET)
               

            OK, Caps off. I was just saying that Buchanan was riffing pretty good with Colbert. George Will hung in there pretty good during his appearance, too. I think Colbert's act is a good setting for conservatives, his parody takes away their ability to do strictly the talking points, and they actually have conversations.

            And, yes, I did an image search the other night with the word 'fist" in it, and no filters on. Not recommended! ;0)

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    • Author by nerzog (June 10, 2008 2:39 pm ET)
         
      I have it on super secret authority that Nerd Pencils can be used as Terrorist Weapons.
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    • Author by eweston8542983 (June 10, 2008 2:47 pm ET)
         

      I think I want know how the candidates (literally) dance. Suddenly its become a piority, I really really need to see how they dance.

      Further absurd demands as they develope.

      !"/

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      • Author by IRONY 101 (June 10, 2008 2:51 pm ET)
           
        I think Obama is probably the better dancer. John McCain might break his hip.  ;>)
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    • Author by donaldmaddog5642 (June 10, 2008 3:04 pm ET)
         
      NOW WAIT JUST A GOL-DURN MINUTE! I WATCHED ALL OF THESE VIDEO CLIPS AND....Ooops, my caps thingy. Sorry.

      Did you SEE Obama and Governor Mike Easley? Not only did they do the terrorist bump, but they HUGGED! Two men hugging! What is that if not a homo thing? Or a pansy thingy, a fag thing, a queer thing, a fairy thing, etc. I watch Fox and read the WSJ and Washington Post for all my news, so I am really up on all the real information out there, as well as Mike Savage (Boy, THAT guy really knows his stuff!), also William Kristol in the NY Times and David Brooks, too. Why haven't the real news folks picked up on THAT? It's O.K. for Hillary to go around hugging people 'cause that's a girl thing, but two MEN? Why hasn't my idol, Bill O'Reilly, exposed this homosexual behavior for what it is? I am also disappointed in Tucker for not talking about this. I AM MAD AS HELL AND (sorry, did it again) want a good fair and balanced report on this from Fox or Imus. Now IMUS, he would know how to deal with this in a dignified manner.
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (June 10, 2008 3:11 pm ET)
         
      Self-parody...? FOX is a parody to begin with. So what is this episode...a parody of a parody? Whatever it is, it's pretty bad...even for FOX.
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    • Author by wzwriter (June 10, 2008 3:33 pm ET)
         

      Memo to E. D. Hill:

      When you work for Faux News and Joe Scarborough and Pat Buchanan are BOTH making fun of you, it might be time to find another line of work....

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    • Author by Shasta4737 (June 10, 2008 11:30 pm ET)
         
      Have you noticed how low E.D. Hill wears the neckline of her clothes? Fox must not be paying her enough to buy stuff that fits. Watch and see whether the cleavage pops out even more now that she's been criticized about her fist jab comment. Cleavage is one of her best talents at Fox it seems.   
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