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Borger baselessly claimed "recent polls" show that "suburban women ... don't like Barack Obama very much"

June 19, 2008 4:39 pm ET

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SUMMARY: CNN's Gloria Borger asserted, "[Sen. John] McCain really believes that he has an opportunity to win over these suburban women who, in recent polls, have shown that they don't like [Sen.] Barack Obama very much." But of the two recent polls identified by Media Matters that reported results for the subcategory of suburban women, one found that Obama led McCain, while the other, providing results specifically for "white suburban women," gave McCain the lead, but reportedly within the margin of error; in neither case were results reported for likability of the two candidates among suburban women.

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On the June 16 edition of CNN's Anderson Cooper 360, CNN senior political analyst Gloria Borger asserted, "[Sen. John] McCain really believes that he has an opportunity to win over these suburban women who, in recent polls, have shown that they don't like [Sen.] Barack Obama very much." Borger did not name any specific polls that found that "suburban women ... don't like Barack Obama very much." A Media Matters for America review identified two recent polls reporting results for the subcategory of suburban women, neither of which published results for likability of the two candidates among suburban women.

One of the polls, conducted by the Democratic polling firm Greenberg Quinlan Rosner from May 29 through June 8, showed Obama leading McCain by seven percentage points in an "initial vote" by "suburban women" in 12 presidential battleground states, 51-44, with no listed margin of error. The poll further indicated that after explaining the respective positions of Obama and McCain on abortion, which the poll labeled "choice positioning," Obama's lead over McCain grew to 55-39 among suburban women. Greenberg Quinlan Rosner concluded that "Choice Moves Key Blocs of Women Toward Obama."

According to a June 11 MSNBC.com article by NBC News deputy political director Mark Murray, a second poll conducted from June 6-9, released by NBC News and The Wall Street Journal, found that "McCain leads Obama among white suburban women (44-38), [a] group which makes up about 10 percent of all voters that [Democratic pollster Peter D.] Hart calls 'absolutely critical' for both candidates in the fall." However, neither Murray's report -- which discussed the poll's results among "white suburban women," not simply "suburban women" -- nor the full published results of the poll, provided likability or favorability ratings for Obama and McCain among suburban women. Moreover, the poll's result for white suburban women is reportedly within the margin of error.

From the June 16 edition of CNN's Anderson Cooper 360:

CAMPBELL BROWN (anchor): As [CNN correspondent] Dana [Bash] said, this isn't the first vetting gaffe for the McCain campaign. But how serious a misstep is this one?

We are "Digging Deeper" now with our panel once again. Joining us, [CNN senior political correspondent] Candy Crowley, Gloria Borger, and [CNN senior political analyst] David Gergen.

And Gloria, could this fundraiser flap with [former Texas Republican gubernatorial candidate] Clayton Williams have an impact on McCain's push for women?

BORGER: Well, I think it could. There's kind of this drip, drip, drip going on in these campaigns right now. And as you pointed out, McCain really believes that he has an opportunity to win over these suburban women who, in recent polls, have shown that they don't like Barack Obama very much.

I would have to say that this is not one way to do it and that this also really shows that this is a campaign that still has to get up to speed on being ready for kind of a general election, because these are the kinds of mistakes that you don't think they -- I don't think they should be making at this point in the campaign.

BROWN: And Candy, the McCain campaign's not returning the money they raised. The fundraiser's going to be moved to a different location. Does that go far enough in terms of them or him trying to distance himself from Williams?

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    • Author by Clevenative (June 19, 2008 4:53 pm ET)
         

      So from now 'til November all we can do is watch poll after poll - each broken down into specific demographics and age groups? What is the purpose?  What else could one candidate or the other gain from touting poll results other than that the "jump on the bandwagon" voters who will then know just where "they should fit in"?

      If there is any other purpose for poll hyping by the media - I'd like to know what it is.

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      • Author by tommy (June 19, 2008 5:16 pm ET)
           
        Good points, other than fill airtime and give pundits something to knock around, they are essentially worthless, at least until after Labor Day.
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    • Author by achrispage6992 (June 19, 2008 4:57 pm ET)
         
      Recent polling has also shown that Borger looks very much like a man dressed as a woman.
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      • Author by see it real (June 19, 2008 11:27 pm ET)
           
        The same polling records the same analysis was made about Bay Buchanan, who looks like Pat Buchanan in drag (UGH!).
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    • Author by cArn (June 19, 2008 5:09 pm ET)
         

      That's messed up, Arch. -_-

      Anyway, I found out the reason I couldn't copy and paste images is because MMFA hates the FireFox browser. I had to temporarily switch to the inferior IE.

       

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    • Author by worrierking (June 19, 2008 5:12 pm ET)
         
      How is McCain going to win over the "white suburban women"?

      The only thing he has going for him is that he may be able to scare a few of them into voting for him instead the "Hamas" candidate, but after 2004, I think Americans have grown tired of listening to fear mongers.

      Rudy Gouliani's campaign went down in flames and no one is scarier than him.

      Women are smart enough not to fall for cold Bush leftovers.
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      • Author by worrierking (June 19, 2008 5:28 pm ET)
           

        Thanks for the info on pasting pics CARN.

        This picture was suposed to go with my above post.

         

         

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      • Author by jeter2 (June 19, 2008 5:35 pm ET)
           

        King,

        I'm not one to pay much attention to Polls until at least late October however I think most Hillary supporters will vote for Obama. Hardliner Republican women might vote for McCain or sit home.

        That leaves Independent women. Impossible to predict in June how they'll go in November, but if I were a betting man, I think Obama will win most of them over. Each woman will have her own reasons for voting for him.

        I think when push comes to shove most will not want a Bush regurgitation administration. Change will be a strong reason. This country needs a cleansing. I think an Obama victory will bring a welcomed relief to this country & around the world.

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        • Author by worrierking (June 19, 2008 5:43 pm ET)
             
          I'll agree with you Jeter, but I won't get a room with you.

          Unless we split the hotel bill.
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        • Author by see it real (June 19, 2008 11:29 pm ET)
             

          "King, I'm not one to pay much attention to Polls until at least late October however I think most Hillary supporters will vote for Obama. Hardliner Republican women might vote for McCain or sit home."

          The self-hating hardliner hate hag Republican women likely condone Sen. McCain's calling Cindy the C word.  Republican women are more sexist against women than Republican men are. 

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      • Author by see it real (June 19, 2008 11:32 pm ET)
           

        "How is McCain going to win over the "white suburban women"?"

        One despicable way is to appeal to their racist hatred of blacks by telling white suburban women that he hates black people like they do, and that he favors bringing back racial segregation, same as they do.

        That will only work with self-hating fascist sexist racist right wing Republican hate hag women types, I hope. 

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    • Author by heru (June 19, 2008 7:07 pm ET)
         

      McCain 2008 Bush's Third Term

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    • Author by gg (June 19, 2008 11:24 pm ET)
         
      The only poll I will be interested about is the exit polls in November when the Republicans try to steal the election!
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    • Author by Governor (June 20, 2008 11:27 am ET)
         

      "...in recent polls..."

       

      Pundits who want to project their own politics into election discussion just love to throw out this total line of BS. 

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