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Kilmeade, who once falsely said Obama "[e]vidently ... went to a madrassa" asked Muslim guest if he is insulted when Obama says, "I am not a Muslim'"

June 26, 2008 2:57 pm ET

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SUMMARY: On Fox & Friends, Brian Kilmeade, who previously falsely asserted that Sen. Barack Obama "[e]vidently ... went to a madrassa" as a child, asked his guest: "[D]o you find it insulting at all when Barack Obama goes out of his way to say, 'Hey, I am not a Muslim. I'm a Christian, and let's stop these spread' [sic] as if being a Muslim is bad?"

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During the June 25 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends, co-host Brian Kilmeade, who had previously falsely asserted that Sen. Barack Obama "[e]vidently ... went to a madrassa" as a child, asked guest Mohamed Elibiary: "[D]o you find it insulting at all when Barack Obama goes out of his way to say, 'Hey, I am not a Muslim. I'm a Christian, and let's stop these spread' [sic] as if being a Muslim is bad?" He subsequently asked his other guest, Shayan Farooqi: "[W]hen you hear Barack Obama come out and say, 'These are rumors about me being a Muslim. I'm not,' and make that effort, does that turn off for you?"

On the January 19, 2007, editions of Fox & Friends First and Fox & Friends, Kilmeade, along with co-hosts Steve Doocy and Gretchen Carlson, spent several segments advancing a false report that Obama was raised a Muslim and attended a madrassa, or Islamic school, as a child in Indonesia. At one point, Doocy asked: "When people find out this stuff, they're going to go, 'Why didn't anybody ever mention that that man right there was raised as -- spent the first decade of his life raised by his Muslim father as a Muslim and was educated in a madrassa?' " Kilmeade responded, "Yeah, is that a problem?" He added: "Evidently, when he was a little kid, he went over to Indonesia and went to a madrassa. He -- in his two best-selling books, he doesn't really mention this in detail."

Later, Kilmeade did not challenge a caller's assertion that Obama being raised a Muslim "could possibly give him ... better insight on the enemy, [because] maybe he doesn't consider terrorists the enemy," but rather, said to the caller: "Well, we'll see about that." Later that same day on Fox & Friends, Doocy said of the false madrassa story: "This is huge." Kilmeade replied: "It's big about his background. It's also interesting. He had two best-selling biographies. It did not come up -- was not directly addressed."

On the January 22, 2007, edition of Fox & Friends, the co-hosts "clarif[ied]" their previous reporting on the madrassa story. During that segment, Doocy said: "Mr. Obama's people called and they said that that is absolutely false. They said the idea that Barack Obama went to a radical Muslim school is completely ridiculous," as Media Matters for America documented. Kilmeade stated that the Obama camp "wanted to make it clear they had nothing to do -- he had nothing to do with going to any radical Islamic school, and he was very angry about it."

From the June 25 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:

KILMEADE: Mohamed, do you find it insulting at all when Barack Obama goes out of his way to say, "Hey, I am not a Muslim. I'm a Christian, and let's stop these spread" as if being a Muslim is bad.

ELIBIARY: Well, of course, I've had issues just like every other Muslim with the way he's framed that. I think that this is actually part of a bigger problem or challenge that Obama has, which is his image. He tries to craft it really, really tightly, while when we compare him to McCain -- you might remember a controversy a few months back where Mitt Romney was asked if he would appoint a Muslim to his Cabinet, and his response was, "There aren't enough Muslims to warrant such a position," but McCain's response when he was asked was, "Look, I'm going to appoint the best American that's qualified for the position." I'm like, what else can I really ask for?

KILMEADE: That's who -- Shayan, you've heard some of these things. I mean, when you hear Barack Obama come out and say, "These are rumors about me being Muslim. I'm not," and make that effort, does that turn off for you?

SHAYAN FAROOQI: Not necessarily, because he, in fact, is not Muslim. But I feel that, as a candidate, he's laid the groundwork down for all of us with our individual faiths to take whatever positive we can and contribute to the plurality of the American landscape.

From the January 19, 2007, edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends First:

DOOCY: When people find out this stuff, they're going to go, "Why didn't anybody ever mention that that man right there was raised as -- spent the first decade of his life, raised by his Muslim father -- as a Muslim and was educated in a madrassa?"

KILMEADE: Yeah, is that a problem? Evidently, when he was a little kid, he went over to Indonesia and went to a madrassa. He -- in his two best-selling books, he doesn't really mention this in detail, says, you know, I went to -- mostly raised secular but went to a Muslim school, went to a Catholic school, and then a little bit later on, he would become a Christian, almost like a born-again Christian. But Barack Obama had a father born in Kenya who was a Muslim.

[...]

DOOCY: Is it ancient history or do you think madrassa matters? Josh joins us from Colorado. Good morning to you, Josh.

CALLER: What's up?

DOOCY: What do you think?

CALLER: I think that, ultimately, this will probably be one of the main reasons he's not elected.

DOOCY: Just the fact that his father was a Muslim, he was raised as a Muslim for awhile, and went to a madrassa school in Jakarta?

CALLER: Right. I mean, where -- you'd think that could possibly give him, you know, better insight on the enemy, maybe he doesn't really consider terrorists the enemy.

DOOCY: All right, Josh.

KILMEADE: Well, we'll see about that. Yeah, Josh says that. Larry from Tennessee, where do you weigh in?

[...]

CALLER: Hi, good morning. Yes, I think it does matter. The fact that he omitted it must mean that he feels that somebody is going to have an opinion, and President Bush certainly comes under scrutiny, so why shouldn't he?

KILMEADE: Well, he didn't admit it. I mean, that's the issue is that --

CARLSON: Well, she said he didn't.

KILMEADE: Yeah, says he didn't come out, and say, look, I was -- was over in Indonesia for five years was -- or roughly five years, went to a madrassa. And there is some reports that Wahhabism was the curriculum there --

DOOCY: Yeah.

KILMEADE: -- which is a problem because they start with "We hate America" and work their way back from there.

DOOCY: Well, the way it was framed in one of his biographies, he said quote, "I was sent first," this is in Indonesia, "to a Catholic school and then to a predominantly Muslim school." He doesn't say, "I went to a madrassa, where they taught Wahhabism." He simply says, "I went to a predominantly Muslim school."

From the January 19, 2007, edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:

DOOCY: And in today's Insight Magazine, which is a publication of The Washington Times, they talk about how Barack Obama, raised as a Muslim by his stepfather, also who was a Muslim, eventually an atheist, in Jakarta, Indonesia. And, you know, what have we heard about -- coming out of the madrassa schools over in Indonesia? This is huge.

KILMEADE: It's big about his background. It's also interesting. He had two best-selling biographies. It did not come up -- was not directly addressed. He also -- they also found out that some of the characters in his biographies are composite characters, which he did not say up front. And if you think that Barack Obama is under some scrutiny now, just picture what's going to be happening if he continues to lead over in Iowa and in New Hampshire, like he's doing in two of the polls.

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    • Author by wzwriter (June 26, 2008 3:00 pm ET)
         

      "[D]o you find it insulting at all when Barack Obama goes out of his way to say, 'Hey, I am not a Muslim. I'm a Christian, and let's stop these spread' [sic] as if being a Muslim is bad?"

      I find it insulting that losers like Brian Kilmeade have a job.  Fox should fire this loser.

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      • Author by Sueelldd (June 26, 2008 3:05 pm ET)
           
        I agree but that will not happen, those morning dirtbags at FOX have an agenda and it is to smear Obama at all costs.
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      • Author by RABBITLUVR (June 26, 2008 3:08 pm ET)
           
        Why, so I can pay for his unemployment? ;)
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        • Author by snoopy (June 26, 2008 3:10 pm ET)
             
          He's young enough to fight. Sign him up and ship him out, cause he'll be more useful shooting off his gun than he is shooting off his mouth.
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    • Author by foghornleghorn (June 26, 2008 3:21 pm ET)
         
      More Fox bimbos, less Kilmeade.
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (June 26, 2008 3:27 pm ET)
         
      What do you suppose is the collective IQ over at FOX?
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      • Author by snoopy (June 26, 2008 3:33 pm ET)
           
        It's 23, which is also their dear leader's approval rating.
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        • Author by wzwriter (June 26, 2008 3:40 pm ET)
             

          It's 23, which is also their dear leader's approval rating.

          And just like Bush's popularity, Fox's collective IQ keeps reaching new lows.  :-)

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          • Author by IRONY 101 (June 26, 2008 3:43 pm ET)
               
            Yea, but Bush will be gone in January. No such luck with FOX I'm afraid...
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            • Author by RABBITLUVR (June 26, 2008 3:53 pm ET)
                 
              Don't lose hope. They may just self-destruct over there once Obama takes the oath.
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              • Author by historygeek001 (June 26, 2008 4:02 pm ET)
                   
                Just listen for the sound of their heads exploding when they try to say "President Obama" or "Senator Franken."
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                • Author by wzwriter (June 26, 2008 4:22 pm ET)
                     

                  Just listen for the sound of their heads exploding when they try to say "President Obama" or "Senator Franken."

                  Or read the latest dispatch from Bush's war crimes trial in The Hague....

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                • Author by JLyons (June 26, 2008 4:38 pm ET)
                     

                  Just listen for the sound of their heads exploding when they try to say "President Obama" or "Senator Franken."

                  Wow that will have a nice ring to it.

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                • Author by Science101 (June 26, 2008 5:03 pm ET)
                     
                  Obama is a contender.  Franken, not so much.
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                  • Author by RABBITLUVR (June 26, 2008 5:09 pm ET)
                       
                    So? Even if Franken loses, the Left will be in charge for the next four years, ideally for eternity. What do you think of that prospect, Colum... whoops, Science? How does it grab ya?
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                    • Author by Science101 (June 26, 2008 8:54 pm ET)
                         

                      Personally, i hope the dems do get control, and then blow it.  The congress and house have, no reason the president wont.  Whatever happens, is bound to happen.

                      As soon as they get in, and let gas prices get to $6, $7 a gallon, no one is going to give two craps about environmentalism - causing an outrage against the entire democratic party.

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                      • Author by IRONY 101 (June 26, 2008 9:38 pm ET)
                           
                        Wonderful sentiments, Science... yet another example of how Republicans place party and ideology before country.
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                      • Author by snoopy (June 27, 2008 10:40 am ET)
                           
                        No surprise there. Another right winger wishing ill on his country because he is greedy for power. Traitors to the constitution should be hanged.
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                        • Author by anotheramerican (June 27, 2008 11:41 am ET)
                             

                          Snoop,

                          What about all those around here who wish ill for our current President?  

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                      • Author by RABBITLUVR (June 27, 2008 4:28 pm ET)
                           
                        Is that what your cracked crystal ball is telling you?
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                      • Author by vysotsky (June 27, 2008 5:57 pm ET)
                           

                        Science: "Personally, i hope the dems do get control, and then blow it.  The congress and house have, no reason the president wont.  Whatever happens, is bound to happen."

                        Don't you think the country's health and interests -- short term and long term -- take priority over a partison blame game?  Wouldn't you rather see the best candidate win.  It seems a little more likely that your "I hope the dems do get control" line is for your own psychological benefit: an attempt to spare yourself any false hope and disappointment.

                        I have to say that I'm profoundly surprised by the tone of resignation when you wrote, "Whatever happens, is bound to happen."  Somehow I never figured you for a determinist. 

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                      • Author by August Heat (June 29, 2008 6:05 am ET)
                           

                        Personally, i hope the dems do get control, and then blow it.  The congress and house have, no reason the president wont.  Whatever happens, is bound to happen.-Sciencefordummies.

                        Real American of you.  You're actively rooting for our country to fail if a Democrat is in office like a lot of other neocon scum.  Republicans and Democrats supported Bush in going into Iraq.  You have the nerve to question liberals patriotism and yet many neocons wish with every breath in their body for Obama to fail if he's in office.  

                        Personal question.  You're so against Obama you are hoping "the dems get control, and then blow it."  Are you against him because he's black or because he's a Democrat?  Either way your disdain for this country is troubling.  I suspect there will be a lot of unstable neocons wishing the same things.  How un-American.

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    • Author by wesley (June 26, 2008 3:29 pm ET)
         

      mmfa's crusade...while well intentioned in their mind...is pretty pointless. Especially when all of the cable networks are full of Heckel and Jeckel characters like these two...on both sides.

      The cable gabfests with pundits and guests are not gaining any traction in the viewership market...they've pretty well maxed out. The people who watch Kilmeade/Doocy are mostly red meat republicans looking for their daily fix of republican agenda...with a smattering of liberal masochists showing up for the outrage....flip the coin over and you find the same thing in reverse on a show like Countdown.

      I would guess that Kilmeade and Doocy get quite a chuckle the day after being strafed by mmfa because it's all a petty little catfight between mmfa and the cable nets.

      Now, the newspapers and national broadcast media are a different story. Their audiences would be more moderate and contain people actually looking for news...that is where mmfa stands a chance to find the holy grail of political news coverage. 

       

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      • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (June 26, 2008 3:32 pm ET)
           
        Thanks for the concern, and the advice, Wesley.
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      • Author by wzwriter (June 26, 2008 3:42 pm ET)
           

        mmfa's crusade...while well intentioned in their mind...is pretty pointless.

        But not as pointless as your drivel-filled posts, Wesley.

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      • Author by deeznuts (June 26, 2008 4:15 pm ET)
           
        Textbook concern-trolling.
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    • Author by wookie (June 26, 2008 3:31 pm ET)
         
      So basically Fox is setting Obama up for the "damned if you are, damned if you aren't" as far as the Muslim thing goes. The RNC is getting their money's worth.
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      • Author by deeznuts (June 26, 2008 4:20 pm ET)
           

        Funny how...suddenly...Fox news cares about Muslims' feelings being hurt. But only as long as they can somehow spin it against Obama.

        This is dirty and grossly condescending to the Muslim community in this country (yeah, I know, typical of Fox News.)

        I would bet that the majority of American Muslims are aware that Obama denies being a Muslim not because being one is a bad thing, but because it's a lie that has managed to maintain traction since the beginning of this Presidential race.

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        • Author by snoopy (June 26, 2008 4:26 pm ET)
             
          It's southern strategy 2.0. New features include fear of foreigners and non christian based beliefs. Koran not included.
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    • Author by clams casino (June 26, 2008 3:35 pm ET)
         
      So someone could spread an unsubstantiated rumor that Brian Kilmeade is gay, and when he denies it they can call him a homophobe?
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      • Author by Science101 (June 26, 2008 3:41 pm ET)
           

        Liberals do it all the time! I've witnesses it here numerous times in from various posters.  In fact I recall numerous times hearing people on here say that "if you have to come out and say you're not a racist.....then you obviously are one".

         

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        • Author by clams casino (June 26, 2008 3:48 pm ET)
             
          Your analogy has drifted away from anything remotely resembling what Kilmeade is doing, but thanks for playing. But I do love the uncredited quote that's supposed to back up your sweeping statement. I'm sure somebody somewhere actually said that once, right?
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          • Author by wzwriter (June 26, 2008 4:24 pm ET)
               

            Your analogy has drifted away from anything remotely resembling what Kilmeade is doing, but thanks for playing.

            Science101 drifted away from reality long ago......

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          • Author by anotheramerican (June 27, 2008 11:43 am ET)
               

            Clams,

            A small point, but I've seen the same comments and been accused many times myself.  

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        • Author by snoopy (June 26, 2008 3:53 pm ET)
             
          Nothing wrong with a statement that's true. Only people who go out of their way claiming they aren't racist are, well, racist...
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          • Author by deeznuts (June 26, 2008 4:27 pm ET)
               

            Absolutely.

            The words "I'm not a racist, but..." are invariably immediately followed by a blatantly racist statement. (Which is then usually followed by a bit of whining about "political correctness.")

            In all fairness to Kilmeade and Fox News in general, if they didn't have a well documented history of overt (and covert) racism in their programming and reporting, they might be entitled to the occasional pass or acceptance of their apology.

            However, after the last several years (and especially in the last 8 months or so) they have earned no benefit of the doubt. (See "terrorist fist-jab," "baby-mama," "Obama's half-brother," etc. etc. ad nauseam)

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        • Author by vysotsky (June 26, 2008 4:11 pm ET)
             
          "Liberals do it all the time!"

          Uh... don't you mean "hypocrites and underhanded disingenuous rhetoricians of all political persuasions" do it all the time? Yes, there are lots of human beings of every conceivable type who try to play the 'damned if you do, damned if you don't" card. It's an ugly tactic, but the defense that "the other team does it to" is even weaker. If it's wrong, it's wrong, and in this case, Kilmeade seems to be trying to have his Islamophobia and eat it too.
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        • Author by friedbergboy1422 (June 26, 2008 4:17 pm ET)
             

          Science,

          Which one of these posters has a national television show from which to espouse these views?

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          • Author by Science101 (June 26, 2008 5:04 pm ET)
               
            I wasn't aware that you had to be a television analyst to be guilty of the "damned if you do, damned if you dont" rhetoric.
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            • Author by friedbergboy1422 (June 26, 2008 5:18 pm ET)
                 
              Well, Science, if any of my fellow posters was calling someone out and had an audience the size of Kilmeade's, I would call them out.
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    • Author by anotheramerican (June 26, 2008 4:02 pm ET)
         

      Kilmeade, who once falsely said Obama "[e]vidently ... went to a madrassa"

      A bit of topic... How can one have "once falsely said" something?  Did or did Kilomeade not say it?  If he said it, then isn't it true to say he "falsely said it" is false?

      Besides, Kilmeade said "evidently" which makes his statement conditional on the evidence he had at hand. If that is the case his statement is true even though the evidence is false. 

      Does anyone know if Kilmeade at a later time corrected himself regarding this issue? 

      Having read some of the threads today I am of the opinion MMFA should change it's name to MOOMFA (Mountains Out Of Molehills For America).  

       :-)

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      • Author by clams casino (June 26, 2008 4:06 pm ET)
           
        Another textbook example of concrete thinking. I'm really beginning to think that conservatism has something to do with a chemical imbalance in the brain. I don't know how people who are so literal about everything make it through the day.
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        • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (June 26, 2008 4:09 pm ET)
             
          AA hasn't been around lately, I think that's why Tommy took such a beating. Tommy, you're back at the #2 thickest wingnut spot .  ;0)
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      • Author by ConstanceRifleII (June 26, 2008 4:12 pm ET)
           

        "A bit of topic... How can one have "once falsely said" something?  Did or did Kilomeade not say it?  If he said it, then isn't it true to say he "falsely said it" is false?"

        Can I have a bit of topic too? ;)

        would it help if MMfA put commas in?  As in "Brian Kilmeade once, falsely, said...."

        I can see where you're coming from, it's slightly awkward phrasing, but it still means that what he was saying was false, not that he didn't say it.

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      • Author by vysotsky (June 26, 2008 4:14 pm ET)
           
        Wow, now MMFA stands accused of crimes against syntax. This will probably be the final nail in the organization's coffin. Time to close up shop, MMFA...
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      • Author by friedbergboy1422 (June 26, 2008 4:21 pm ET)
           

        AA,

        I think someone should call McCain an Episcopalian.  Then when he says he converted to be a Baptist, we can accuse him of insulting a church he actually did leave behind, unlike Obama, right?

        McCain obviously hates the Episcopal church in minds like Kilmeade, right?

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      • Author by deeznuts (June 26, 2008 4:30 pm ET)
           

        No.

        You fail English.

        Go sit in the corner.

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    • Author by jbraskin (June 26, 2008 11:50 pm ET)
         
      These guys at Fox are getting so desperate it's amazing.  And it's still months until the actual election.  What will they say when it's a few days away?
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      • Author by August Heat (June 29, 2008 6:24 am ET)
           

        These guys at Fox are getting so desperate it's amazing. -Jbraskin

         

        I keep marveling at it myself.  I said in another post some of these bobbleheads are going to regret a lot of the things they are saying now.  Questioning Obama on policy and associations (which is weak) is understandable.  Questioning his faith is stale.  He's muslim when it benefits their arguement and he's Christian when talking about Reverend Wright.  He has a baby's momma and yet he's still a snobby elitist.  Their game plan is laughable and not working, yet they keep trying the name calling, negative campaigning bit.  Is that not the definition of insanity?  Repeating the same thing expecting a different outcome?

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