Savage: Israelis speculated shooting was attack on Olmert because "he is leading them to the gas chamber"
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SUMMARY: Following a shooting incident that occurred as French President Nicolas Sarkozy was preparing to depart Israel, Michael Savage claimed: "There is speculation that there was an attempt to kill [Israeli Prime Minister Ehud] Olmert because he has sold the country down the river, and he is selling the people to their death -- he is leading them to the gas chamber. He is a -- the equivalent of those who led the Jews into the gas chambers in World War II, according to many Israelis who see the handwriting on the wall."
On the June 24 edition of his nationally syndicated radio program, discussing the reported suicide of an Israeli police officer that occurred as French President Nicolas Sarkozy was preparing to depart Israel at an event attended by Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, Michael Savage said: "Now, I have learned -- and whether it's corroboratable at this point, I don't know -- but it's coming to me from Israel that the people in Israel are skeptical of this story." Savage added: "There is speculation that there was an attempt to kill Olmert because he has sold the country down the river, and he is selling the people to their death -- he is leading them to the gas chamber. He is a -- the equivalent of those who led the Jews into the gas chambers in World War II, according to many Israelis who see the handwriting on the wall."
During the program, Savage referred to Sarkozy's wife, Carla Bruni, as "a model slut." Savage later said of Bruni: "[T]his girl used her instincts that she used to get ahead in the world of having sex with one famous man after another, until eventually she landed on Easy Street -- or shall I say -- until she landed on the Champs-Élysées. So she used her sexuality and her guile to get where she is, and the minute there was danger, she didn't hug her husband and protect him. That chick got on those steps and ran for her life."
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From the June 24 edition of Talk Radio Network's The Savage Nation:
SAVAGE: Mrs. Sarkozy, this Carla Bruni, the model slut, ran up the steps à la Jackie Kennedy, ditching her husband, leaving him at the bottom of the steps. All the years on the runway gave her some good -- good sprinting capacity. She sprinted out of the line of fire. He was stunned, didn't know what happened, they didn't really hear the shot, they -- they whisk them up on the plane. Then Olmert, the president [sic] of Israel, and [Israeli President Shimon] Peres are put on the plane to tell them that an Israeli border guard who was guarding them committed suicide.
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SAVAGE: I'll read you this story from The Jerusalem Post. "No one on the tarmac heard the shot that ended a border policeman's life a few hundred meters away from the leaders of Israel and France at Ben-Gurion Airport on Tuesday. But security agents, fearing an assassination attempt, scrambled into action after news of the unexpected development reached them via their radio earpieces. The incident took place as French President Nicolas Sarkozy boarded a flight back to Paris, concluding a three-day visit to the region. Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and [President] Shimon Peres had accompanied Sarkozy to the airport. A military band greeted the leaders, and a picture-perfect ceremony commenced, marking the end of an important state visit seen by many as symbolizing the increasingly warm relations between Jerusalem and Paris. Within seconds of his bodyguards learning that a shot had been fired nearby, Olmert found himself surrounded by dark-suited Shin Bet agents who whisked him into a bullet-proof vehicle. Peres was rushed into a second secure vehicle. The bodyguards were following emergency procedure as spokesman for Peres' security entourage later explained.
"On the stairs leading up to Sarkozy's plane, alarmed French security guards escorted Sarkozy aboard the aircraft. Carla Bruni-Sarkozy, the French Premier's [sic] wife, ran up the stairs ahead of him. The French president waited for more news on the plane. Minutes passed before word reached Olmert that the shooting occurred on the outer security perimeter around the farewell ceremony. There was no assassination attempt, the Shin Bet told the prime minister. After receiving the all-clear, Olmert and Peres boarded the plane to inform Sarkozy of what had transpired. Suicide was the likely cause of death for the border policeman" -- yeah -- "struck by his own bullet while guarding the departure ceremony, a border police spokesman said." Spokesman said, "According to the preliminary results of a forensic mobile lab on the scene, the signs point to suicide."
The spokesmouth stressed that, quote, "the investigation has not yet ended." The spokesmouth went on, "These are the first results we've gotten back from the scene." "Police did not release further details of the officer's identity in the hours following the shooting."
Now, I have learned -- and whether it's corroboratable at this point, I don't know -- but it's coming to me from Israel that the people in Israel are skeptical of this story, number one. That the border guard was a Druze, number two. There is speculation that there was an attempt to kill Olmert because he has sold the country down the river, and he is selling the people to their death -- he is leading them to the gas chamber. He is a -- the equivalent of those who led the Jews into the gas chambers in World War II, according to many Israelis who see the handwriting on the wall. The speculation in Israel is that this was an internal attempt to knock off Olmert by a border policeman who was found on the roof with a scope rifle and then he was executed and thrown off the roof, or after he was executed by a guard who caught him, he fell off the roof. We'll never know what really happened. We'll never know what really happened, but I'll ask you -- what do you think really happened? Do you believe the official story? Or do you believe that this was an assassination attempt that is being covered up?
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SAVAGE: Frank, I was not very impressed with the security guys ushering Olmert away and the security guys ushering the French leader away. They looked like amateurs. It didn't look to me like the old-guard type of security guys that I, you know, used to say, "these guys are supermen" -- they didn't look very efficient to me and very, very protective. In other words, the world leaders, right after this occurred, looked more vulnerable than you would imagine.
CALLER: Yeah, you'd think they would have slammed them to the ground or threw them in the car and took out their guns --
SAVAGE: They didn't do that. I'm telling you, Frank, the whole thing is weird. And then Carla Bruni, running up the steps like Jackie Kennedy? It gave me a chill up my spine.
CALLER: That -- that was -- that was amazing.
SAVAGE: And I don't mean because she has a good -- a good derrière. I mean, because this girl used her instincts that she used to get ahead in the world of having sex with one famous man after another, until eventually she landed on Easy Street -- or shall I say -- until she landed on the Champs-Élysées. So she used her sexuality and her guile to get where she is, and the minute there was danger, she didn't hug her husband and protect him. That chick got on those steps and ran for her life, but there was no security protecting her. If you look at that video on my website, you'll see she's running up the steps without any backup. There's no one behind her. It's amazing to me, Frank.
CALLER: Well, she is Italian, and she's probably heard the shots before and knows what to do.
SAVAGE: [laughs] Oh, man, you got me there.
Michael Savage claimed: "There is speculation that there was an attempt to kill [Israeli Prime Minister Ehud] Olmert because he has sold the country down the river, and he is selling the people to their death -- he is leading them to the gas chamber. He is a -- the equivalent of those who led the Jews into the gas chambers in World War II, according to many Israelis who see the handwriting on the wall."
Michael Weiner is the equivalent of those brown piles my dog deposits in my back yard.
And then Carla Bruni, running up the steps like Jackie Kennedy?
Huh? Is there some well-known incident of Jackie running up the steps during a shooting? I recall her sitting in the car, presumably in shock. I think Weiner just seems very angry at men who are successful and powerful and are with attractive women. Maybe Allen Ginsburg was his prettiest date ever.
" I don't know anything about the French prez & wife except that Weiner wants to make some negative statement about the French." -Mary
Actually, the french prez is quite conservative, Savage has repeatedly praised him as a model for the kind of conservative leader we Americans need.
His wife on the other hand, may very well have attained her position by virtue of her sexual charms. However, her running up the steps does not necessarily mean anything.
By 2007, The Economist had declared that "a good rule in most discussions is that the first person to call the other a Nazi automatically loses the argument."[15] And in October 2007, the "Last Page" columnist in The Smithsonian stated that when an adversary uses an inappropriate Hitler or Nazi comparison, "you have only to say 'Godwin's Law' and a trapdoor falls open, plunging your rival into a pool of hungry crocodiles."[16]
Oh, if only we could plunge the Savage Weiner into a pool of hungry crocodiles.
Oh, if only we could plunge the Savage Weiner into a pool of hungry crocodiles.
They wouldn't touch him out of professional courtesy.
Here's what I don't understand: Godwin's law was formulated by Mike Godwin in 1990. The law states: "As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."
Then there's this: "By 2007, The Economist had declared that "a good rule in most discussions is that the first person to call the other a Nazi automatically loses the argument."[15] And in October 2007, the "Last Page" columnist in The Smithsonian stated that when an adversary uses an inappropriate Hitler or Nazi comparison, "you have only to say 'Godwin's Law' and a trapdoor falls open, plunging your rival into a pool of hungry crocodiles."[16]
How did ALL "first references" to Nazi's become, universally, INAPPROPRIATE and how does that apply to Godwin's law? Godwin's law makes no such charge that the "first to reference" Nazi's LOSES the argument. All he EVER said was that it will crop up sooner or later if the discussion goes on long enough.
If the reference to Nazi's is APPROPRIATE it doesn't matter if it's first or last. And in any case, it only illustrates that Godwin was correct. It has nothing to do with "winning" or "losing" the discussion.
Good points, Doggone. That's why I don't recognize "Godwin's Law" as it's been misinterpreted.It enables Nazi-like behavior.
Same with the childish mentality that imagines "name-calling" causes an automatic loss.It encourages a poster to just keep posting progressively more idiotic comments until somebody justifiably points out that they're an idiot.Note that even the modified interpretation's of Godwin's law refer to "inappropriate" , not all, Nazi references.
I agree, in principle. Godwins Law began not as a "law" per se, but a statistical consistency. From that, Hitleresque authoritarians have abstracted social "rules", with the intent of making certain arguments verboten, ultimately leading to the holocaustic eradication of statements which would draw attention to the nazi-like behavior of those same jack-booted little Eichmans who attack our sensibilities with the furor and efficiency of a Goering blitzkrieg.
Personally, I don't see it.
Thanks very much.
My secret is that I establish low standards, and improve in molecule-sized steps until I almost reach the level at which I will be measured against the truly competent. Then I quit.
I've seen corralaries, published well prior to 2007, to Godwin's Law which suggest that the discussion comes to an imediate end, since pretty much ALL references to Nazi's are ridiculous hyperbole in relation to almost any modern political or social issue, and that the person responsible for debasing the conversation such be punnish with the immediate loss of the argument.
But... if you don't buy it (and that's your right, after all any such "law" is reallt just a guideline at best) then I'll change tactics and call "Reductio ad Hitlerum" or "Reductio ad Nazium" on Savage.
Whatever. He's still an idiot, and far closer to Hitler than anyone he's ever compare to him.
(Whoops! There I go!)
NGEddy, I wasn't trying to tell anybody else not to use it as a guideline. That would have been pretty Nazi-like of me. I was only pointing out how it can be abused.
Can you imagine how difficult the Nuremberg trials would have been had the defendants continuously invoked Godwin's Law? ;0)
Can't we dangle and then dip him.
The Hitler of Iran comes to mind pretty quickly.
... and I think Obama has been called the Black Mussolini once or twice before too
"Oh, if only we could plunge the Savage Weiner into a pool of hungry crocodiles."
that's unfair to the crocodiles, even they have standards! low standards i grant you, but standards nonetheless.
Venus Envy. That long desired sex change, a little HGH on the side, and presto, Mischaelle Savage a new runway star and future french politician humper.
And the world is a better place.
It makes you reflect on exactly how and why, Israel and her affairs, become a part of American Politics.
People seem out of custom and habit, to listen to questions asked an American candidate, about Israel: and listen to the answers to those questions... it seems like this is a custom and habit of ours: I don't ever hear anybody dispute the importance of Israel's affairs, in an American Political campaign: I don't ever hear anybody dismiss or minimize questions about Israel, like as if they would respond...
"It's not a very high priority with me and my campaign at the present time, Israel's affairs: I do not place a high priority on that, because I do not see why it should concern the American People to any great degree at this time: mind you of course, that were Israel's affairs and National Security to be so grave at the present time, that there was some type of imminent danger to her existence, then that would be different... but Israel seems as secure if not more secure right now, than at any time in her National existence: Israel has her problems, and we have ours: please ask me questions about issues that are of a higher priority to the American People, than Israel is: there are many issues more important to Americans right now, than Israel is."
"Israel is safe."
I don't ever hear that as a response, to any question that is asked an Americam Politician about Israel, in an Amertican Political campaign: it seems we just customarily and habitually assume Israel is not safe, and by custom and habit make Israel's affairs overly important to us.
"Israel is safe."
As a matter of fact, Israel's National Security in this region has never been safer than it is right now: maybe you have never heard of the wars in 1967 and 1973: even the "intifadas" have subsided: even the terrorist attacks also.
U.S. National Security is in no way threatened in the least presently, by any threat to Israel's National Security (which I have just said is at an all-time and historic safe and stable high presently).
"Israel is safe."
I'm pretty sure myopia has something to do with poor eyesight.
Was there anything at all in my comment, that you think is untrue, or disagree with?
and radical militants in her midst. - brewer
I know, the government there should really do something about those settlers.
Old_Benjamen wrote:
>>I know, the government there should really do something about those settlers.
Bingo.
Do you mean also people like Baruch Goldstein?
"He then opened fire, killing 29 Arab Muslims and wounding 150. Mosque guard Mohammad Suleiman Abu Saleh said he thought that Goldstein was trying to kill as many people as possible and described how there were 'bodies and blood everywhere'"
"[Goldstein's] gravesite has become a pilgrimage site for those with extreme right-wing political views"
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"...how and why, Israel and her affairs, become a part of American Politics."-Dem
Well, look at Israel in purely monetary terms: Israel is akin to a risky investment. And as all investments go, it is wise to observe them closely.
I'm interested in the subject matter (Israel's place as a political issue, in the present Presidential campaign), and I'm looking at what you wrote, wanting to see in it something adding to what I already said and know, or disagreeing with me and pointing something out, so that I can know better.
But it seems cryptic what you wrote: if it means something, it's stated too obscurely for me to decipher.
I'll tell you why I posted what I did though: I was kind of hoping to draw out someone who wanted to argue for Israel's importance in American Policy right now... maybe someone like this savage-weiner guy in the item, or some stooge of his who might monitor this website and it's comment boards...
So I'll make the point I would have made, had someone taken the bait: Israel at present is being used by the Republican side of the American Political spectrum (the extreme side) as a "stalking horse" of sorts... a horse behind which you hide, in order to deceive the thing you stalk... if Israel is a "stalking horse" of sorts, then what is hidden behind her?
Iran.
Israel is being invoked by a particular extreme side of American Politics presently, so as to introduce into that same Politics, an hostility and agression toward Iran: behind the political "stalking horse" of Israel, are those extreme persons in American Politics presently, who wish to antogonize us against Iran.
It is why savage-weiner said what he said.
He and the elements whose interests he broadcasts in, wish to portray Israel's National Security as our own at this time: and therefore to portray Iran as a threat to the American People, in portraying it as a threat to Israel.
But as I had said rather plainly and clearly and truthfully, Israel is at the present time enjoying about as high a level of safety and National Security as she ever has, in her entire National existence: you know, you can get on a bus in Jerusalem today, and not have to look suspiciously at everyone already on that bus, and at everyone who gets on it after you.
The People of that City have rarely enjoyed the level of Security they presently enjoy.
And I thought some extreme element of American Politics (or someone who thinks like them) might engage me on that point I had made, and even maybe slipped out from behind the "stalking horse" Israel, that they hide behind, and even mention Iran by name... it didn't happen.
And as for what you said, it was nothing about Iran, I can see that... but it was nothing I could understand either.
Have we reached a point where insanity or some or psychological pathology is a prerequisite for a job on right wing talk radio? Seriously...
I've begun tuning in Savage a few times a week, just for a few minutes at a time, when I pick my wife up from work in the evening so I've finally been able to judge him better for myself rather than just reading about his outlandish statements. What's peculiar, and disturbing, about Savage is that for a few minutes he can speak softly and rationally and then, suddenly, he explodes into a bizarre, paranoid, angry tirade. This is not a stable man. Seriously...
Hey, Michael Sewage made up a new word!
Corroboratable. Very good Sewage.
Say it really fast 10 times and you win a Rush Limboob t-shirt.
Is it just me or has MediaMatters stopped refuting the claims of these "misinformers" and is simply reporting what they perceive to be "misinformation?"
I mean, what happened to "As MediaMatters has repeatedly noted, the Israelis are very satisfied with Olmert" or something like that?
Funny as how I listened to this particular broadcast, this report leaves out the fact that Dr. Savage repeated numerous times that it was his "opinion" and "speculation" that this could have been an assassination attempt he never once said that Israelis speculated anything. More media matters lies and distortions
He did not call Olmert a Nazi either. He compared Olmert to people in Nazi Germany, including complicent jews, who stood by as they were being taken to the camps. Get some new glasses or clean the wax out of your ears.