Limbaugh again invoked discredited Fort Marcy Park smear of Clintons
SUMMARY: Discussing reports that a plane carrying Sen. Barack Obama had been forced to make an emergency landing, Rush Limbaugh made reference to Obama's flight "aboard Fort Marcy Airlines," invoking the long-discredited allegation that former Clinton White House counsel Vince Foster was murdered and that the Clintons were involved. Multiple official investigations determined that Foster, whose body was found in Northern Virginia's Fort Marcy Park, committed suicide.
On the July 8 edition of his nationally syndicated radio show, Rush Limbaugh invoked the long-discredited right-wing allegation that former Clinton White House counsel Vince Foster was murdered and that the Clintons were involved. Media Matters for America has documented previous instances in which Limbaugh suggested that the Clintons were involved in the death of Foster, whose body was found in Northern Virginia's Fort Marcy Park on July 20, 1993, despite multiple official investigations that determined Foster committed suicide.
While discussing reports that a plane carrying Sen. Barack Obama had been forced to make an emergency landing on July 7 in St. Louis, Limbaugh referred to Obama's flight "aboard Fort Marcy Airlines." Later in the show, Limbaugh commented on a "conspiracy theory" that "Mrs. [Hillary] Clinton, through Mr. [Terry] McAuliffe, is gonna massage things out in Denver so that he [Obama] doesn't get the nomination" He added: "You couple this with Obama's plane, Fort Marcy Airlines, having to take a detour to St. Louis for a mechanical problem. You get the left-wing kooks out there, who are just convinced as they can be that the Clintons are not out of the picture, that they're still mobilizing behind the scenes to take down Obama. And believe me, they do believe this. So a ripe opportunity here for Operation Chaos."
From the July 8 broadcast of Premiere Radio Networks' The Rush Limbaugh Show:
LIMBAUGH: In the meantime, the National Transportation Safety Board said yesterday that they are going to investigate what caused Obama's dinky little MD-80 to make an unexpected landing in St. Louis. He was traveling from Chicago to Charlotte aboard Fort Marcy Airlines when the pilot's first officer announced that they were experiencing controllability issues with the pitch of the MD-80. And so Fort Marcy Airlines had to put down at Lambert Field in St. Louis. And we found out that one of the things that happened during the flight was that in the back of one of these dinky little old MD-80s is a rear door underneath the fuselage, and it'll come down, and you can put out -- you can put the exit slide, the emergency slide. It deployed. It deployed in flight. And, of course, that would -- at altitude and speed, that would have a demonstrable effect on controllability issues. And I don't know if the pilots knew that that was the case at the time. Probably warning lights in the cockpit, even on MD-80, would indicate that.
Well, that's what I was thinking. See, I was thinking somebody like a B.D. Cooper or whatever -- a D.B. Cooper, bailing out with all the money. Maybe somebody bailed out from that door, figuring they knew what was going to happen. After all, it was Fort Marcy Airline.
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LIMBAUGH: And there's this conspiracy theory is that Mrs. Clinton, through Mr. McAuliffe, is gonna massage things out in Denver so that he doesn't get the nomination. You couple this with Obama's plane, Fort Marcy Airlines, having to take a detour to St. Louis for a mechanical problem. You get the left-wing kooks out there, who are just convinced as they can be that the Clintons are not out of the picture, that they're still mobilizing behind the scenes to take down Obama. And believe me, they do believe this. So a ripe opportunity here for Operation Chaos.
WTF happened to decency on the radio?
Howard Stern finds it necessary to move to subscription-only media to facilitate his toilet and bosom humor while the FCC lets idiots like Drugbaugh run rampant with baseless assassination conspiracy theories. Or even worse than Limbaugh, the advocation of shoving grenades into the intestinal tracts of infants.
So long as there are no four-letter words, this is what passes for decency in the eyes of the evangelical FCC.
Un-freakin'-believable.
I just watched that Pete ... disgusting.
What a sad little person Michael Reagan is.
All I can say is that his birth mom had the right idea. She must have had some inclination what a turd be was going to turn out to be.
What a sad little person Michael Reagan is.
All I can say is that his birth mom had the right idea. She must have had some inclination what a turd be was going to turn out to be.
Michael Reagan is a good case for retroactive birth control.
They pontificate about the scaredness of our freedom and the honor of the troops protecting those freedoms.
A bit of a Freudian slip there, Irony - but very appropriate. Republicans are scared that people will use their freedom to vote in order to vote their sorry butts out of office. As each day passes, the GOP gets closer to going the way of the Whig Party from which it evolved......
-- You get the left-wing kooks out there, who are just convinced as they can be that the Clintons are not out of the picture, that they're still mobilizing behind the scenes to take down Obama. -- Limbaugh
He's right again...as evidenced from this article at Huffpo:
-- Posted on the website of the group called PUMA...one of the groups that make up the mostly Democratic anti-Obama "Just Say No Deal coalition" the call asks "just 175 delegates" to throw their support to Hillary Clinton at the convention.
The call enumerates Obama's recent alleged strategic backpedaling on key progressive issues -- on withdrawal from Iraq, for example, opposition to the new FISA bill and efforts to privatize social security.
From the instant that he felt that the Democratic nomination was in his hands, Obama has moved relentlessly to the right in a breathtaking, stunning exhibition of cynicism, duplicity, and fraudulent campaigning. Everything he stood for has been thrown overboard, and Obama has broken his word -- the commitment he made to his own core voters and donors. --
Yep, the natives are restless...as Mr.Hope is looking more and more like Mr. SameOld...just another politician.
Come on, Mefirst....Wesley is a conservative. Conservatives aren't required to ever produce evidence for any of their wacked-out ideas.
Try to keep up... :)
on withdrawal from Iraq, for example, opposition to the new FISA bill and efforts to privatize social security.
He hasn't shifted on Iraq withdrawal; He has shifted his position on FISA; and he hasn't shifted on Social Security. There's only one flip-flopper in this campaign and it's McCain. He has lost all integrity and credibility in his attempt to slob the knob of the far right.
So say you...but there is a contingent of your democrat buddies who think otherwise...more from Huffpo concerning Obama:
-- Soon there will be no difference at all between Obama and McCain on the Iraq war, and the Democratic Party will have missed yet another historic opportunity to help the American people end Bush's and Cheney's failed Neo-Conservative policies. McCain is exploiting Obama's radical shifts in position as examples that Obama has no principles, but only opportunism and expediency, and that his much-touted soaring words mean absolutely nothing.
Neither group will support their party's candidate.
I agree, wes. However, it does not appear from any current polling that opposition is at all significant. Obama is leading by double-digits at least right now. If that group was at all sizeable, it would put a dent in that lead. It hasn't.
OM,
It may be closer than people think...he still has to clear Denver. I don't know the math but the article over at Huffpo reports that all they need are 175 delegates to resurrect Hillary...You know what Yogi used to say about "it ain't over till it's over"...I hope that Obama can hold it together.
Here's another dose of sominex from Mayhill Fowler at Huffpo:
-- The Senator's intention to give religious faith an important place in the public square, should he be elected president, is not a revelation. He has long argued for a connection between religion and politics...faith would play a major and not a minor role. Building on the Bush Administration's faith-based initiatives --
Ye gods...religion?
Yikes...Barack Obama likes religion! He's going too far. I tell you what, if he says he loves America then I'm not voting for him because we liberals hate America. ;>)
Take a nap, Wes...and call us in December. ;>)
Take a nap?...and miss all the fun...not hardly. Here's another take from one of your democrat brethren about what you could find we you wake up in december:
-- the Left are going after him for abandoning gun control in support of dubious Second Amendment rights, as well as his revised stance on FISA, newly-nuanced views on troop withdrawal in Iraq, and his desire to extend, and expand, George W. Bush's faith-based initiative programs, to name but a few. Then, of course, there's Obama's recent contention that a woman's mental state should not exempt her from the Supreme Court ban on late-term abortion...
These are all full-throated assertions, and no one is suggesting, for a moment, that these recent seismic shifts to the center aren't letting the air out of the Obama balloon...
The Democrats, and so-called progressives, are doing such a good job of attacking Obama...McCain won't even need a strategy -- all he'll need to do is keep his mouth shut. -- Jayne Lyn Stahl, Huffpo
Fort Marcy Park is melting in the dark, all that Rush bull pucky flowing down... Wesley wants our country down the drain, I don't think that I will take it, since you only have half-baked it, and I never want that recipe again....oh noooo
it was such a shlocky song, it popped up thinking of the limborg and their stupid Clinton references, as if it meant anything. Leave it to them to make a personal tragedy into a baseless smear.
I don't know what is supposed to be so surprising about that.
Religious groups and government have a shared secular goal to fight poverty. I see no reason why they can't work together as long as the religious groups understand the terms of the partnership and that government help is not to be used to help promote the establishment of their religion - for instance forcing people to attend services or join a congregation in return for assistance.
OM
I'm with you...a big 10-4 on the importance of religion in politics and public life...as long as boundaries are respected.
as long as boundaries are respected.
The problem is, they're not with this administration. Anything "faith-based" is based on a fantasy world.
Anything that Bush has faith in, turns out to be a disaster.
Are you insane? Do you actually believe that stuff? Do you actually believe Hillary Clinton would commit political suicide by challenging Barack Obama right now?
If John McCain wins, which is a possibility (although I wouldn't bet on it), he is most likely a one term president because of his age. That means Hillary could run again in 2012. THAT is her play...! 2008 is over for her...regardless what mischief the political saboteurs and nut jobs try to create.
Get a grip Irony...I don't have a dog in this fight for Denver.
It's democrats...democrats...that are having this fit about Obama's changing positions. So you see, it doesn't matter who I think will win...It's your brothers that have wandered off the party reservation.
More from the democrats at PUMA:
-- Obama now openly supports the death penalty, more of Bush's faith-based theocratic subsidies, and the "merit pay" assault on teachers. He wants to cut the corporate income tax, and he now opposes attempts to curb hand gun violence.
In a most glaring betrayal to his contract with the Democratic base, Obama's current team of economic advisers suggests that he will soon come out for the partial privatization of Social Security, camouflaged as "entitlement reform." --
Let me know when Obama passes this flip flop record.
* McCain supported the drilling moratorium; now he’s against it.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...
* McCain strongly opposes a windfall-tax on oil company profits. Three weeks earlier, he was perfectly comfortable with the idea.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/18/mccains-offsho...
* McCain thought Bush’s warrantless-wiretap program circumvented the law; now he believes the opposite.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15781.htm...
* McCain defended “privatizing” Social Security. Now he says he’s against privatization (though he actually still supports it.)
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15863.htm...
* McCain wanted to change the Republican Party platform to protect abortion rights in cases of rape and incest. Now he doesn’t.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/10/mccain-flips-o...
* McCain thought the estate tax was perfectly fair. Now he believes the opposite.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15825.htm...
* He opposed indefinite detention of terrorist suspects. When the Supreme Court reached the same conclusion,he called it “one of the worst decisions in the history of this country.”
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15864.htm...
* McCain said he would “not impose a litmus test on any nominee.” He used to promise the opposite.
http://www.americablog.com/2008/06/now-mccain-is-flip-f...
* McCain believes the telecoms should be forced to explain their role in the administration’s warrantless surveillance program as a condition for retroactive immunity. He used to believe the opposite.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...
* McCain supported storing spent nuclear fuel at Yucca Mountain in Nevada. Now he believes the opposite.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/may/28/mccains-abo... /
* McCain supported moving “towards normalization of relations” with Cuba. Now he believes the opposite.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15617.htm...
* McCain believed the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Hamas. Now he believes the opposite.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15557.htm...
* McCain believed the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Syria. Now he believes the opposite.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15564.htm...
* He argued the NRA should not have a role in the Republican Party’s policy making. Now he believes the opposite.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15573.htm...
* McCain supported his own lobbying-reform legislation from 1997. Now he doesn’t.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/20/mccains-97-lob...
* He wanted political support from radical televangelists like John Hagee and Rod Parsley. Now he doesn’t.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15633.htm...
* McCain supported the Lieberman/Warner legislation to combat global warming. Now he doesn’t.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15699.htm...
*McCain pledged in February 2008 that he would not, under any circumstances, raise taxes. Specifically, McCain was asked if he is a“‘read my lips’ candidate, no new taxes, no matter what?” referring to George H.W. Bush’s 1988 pledge. “No new taxes,” McCain responded.Two weeks later, McCain said, “I’m not making a ‘read my lips’ statement, in that I will not raise taxes.”
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/14761.htm...
* McCain is both for and against a “rogue state rollback” as a focus of his foreign policy vision.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/04/mccain-...
* McCain says he considered and did not consider joining John Kerry’s Democratic ticket in 2004.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/14818.htm...
*In 1998, he championed raising cigarette taxes to fund programs to cut underage smoking, insisting that it would prevent illnesses and provide resources for public health programs. Now, McCain opposes a $0.61-per-pack tax increase, won’t commit to supporting a regulation bill he’s co-sponsoring, and has hired Philip Morris’ former lobbyist as his senior campaign adviser.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15033.htm...
* McCain has changed his economic worldview on multiple occasions.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15337.htm...
* McCain has changed his mind about a long-term U.S. military presence in Iraq on multiple occasions.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15370.htm...
* McCain is both for and against attacking Barack Obama over his former pastor at his former church.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15358.htm...
* McCain believes Americans are both better and worse off than they were before Bush took office.
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/19/mccain-economy-bloo... /
* McCain is both for and against earmarks for Arizona.
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/06/mccain-earmark /
* McCain believes his endorsement from radical televangelist John Hagee was both a good and bad idea.
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/21/hagee-flip-flop /
*McCain’s first mortgage plan was premised on the notion that homeowners facing foreclosure shouldn’t be “rewarded” for acting“irresponsibly.”His second mortgage plan took largely the opposite position.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15176.htm...
* McCain vowed, if elected, to balance the federal budget by the end of his first term. Soon after, he decided he would no longer even try to reach that goal.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/16/us/politics/16mccain....
* In February 2008, McCain reversed course on prohibiting waterboarding.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/10/emtimeem-has-m...
* McCain used to champion the Law of the Sea convention, even volunteering to testify on the treaty’s behalf before a Senate committee. Now he opposes it.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2007/oct/31/mccain-... /
* McCain was a co-sponsor of the DREAM Act, which would grant legal status to illegal immigrants’ kids who graduate from high school. Now he’s against it.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2007/oct/31/mccain-... /
* On immigration policy in general, McCain announced in February 2008 that he would vote against his own legislation.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/14447.htm...
*In 2006, McCain sponsored legislation to require grassroots lobbying coalitions to reveal their financial donors. In 2007, after receiving“feedback” on the proposal, McCain told far-right activist groups that he opposes his own measure.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/9658.html
* McCain said before the war in Iraq, “We will win this conflict. We will win it easily.” Four years later, McCain said he knew all along that the war in Iraq war was “probably going to be long and hard and tough.”
http://electioncentral.tpmcafe.com/blog/electioncentral...
*McCain said he was the “greatest critic” of Rumsfeld’s failed Iraq policy. In December 2003, McCain praised the same strategy as“a mission accomplished.” In March 2004, he said, “I’m confident we’re on the right course.”In December 2005, he said, “Overall, I think a year from now, we will have made a fair amount of progress if we stay the course.”
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/18/mccain-greatest-cri... /
* McCain went from saying he would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade http://mediamatters.org/items/200610310003 to saying the exact opposite.http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/19/mccain-abortion /
* McCain went from saying gay marriage should be allowed, to saying gay marriage shouldn’t be allowed.
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2007/02/mcc...
* McCain criticized TV preacher Jerry Falwell as “an agent of intolerance” in 2002, but then decided to cozy up to the man who said Americans “deserved” the 9/11 attacks.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/6988.html
* McCain used to oppose Bush’s tax cuts for the very wealthy, but he reversed course in February.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/6731.html
* On a related note, he said 2005 that he opposed the tax cuts because they were “too tilted to the wealthy.” By 2007, he denied ever having said this, and insisted he opposed the cuts because of increased government spending.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/03/us/politics/03mccain....
*In 2000, McCain accused Texas businessmen Sam and Charles Wyly of being corrupt, spending “dirty money” to help finance Bush’s presidential campaign. McCain not only filed a complaint against the Wylys for allegedly violating campaign finance law, he also lashed out at them publicly. In April, McCain reached out to the Wylys for support.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=1880630&page=1
* McCain supported a major campaign-finance reform measure that bore his name. In June 2007, he abandoned his own legislation.
http://www.nysun.com/national/campaign-finance-effort-r... /
* McCain opposed a holiday to honor Martin Luther King, Jr., before he supported it.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20070115/pl_usnw/dnc__mcca...
* McCain was against presidential candidates campaigning at Bob Jones University before he was for it.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/8313.html
* McCain was anti-ethanol. Now he’s pro-ethanol.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15637887 /
* McCain was both for and against state promotion of the Confederate flag.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200610310003
* McCain decided in2000 that he didn’t want anything to do with former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, believing he “would taint the image of the‘Straight Talk Express.’” Kissinger is now the Honorary Co-Chair for his presidential campaign in New York.
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/19/mccain-kissinger /
* McCain used to think that Grover Norquist was a crook and acorrupt shill for dictators. Then McCain got serious about running for president and began to reconcile with Norquist.
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/19/mccain-kissinger /
* McCain took a firm line in opposition to torture, and then caved to White House demands.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/20...
* McCain gave up on his signature policy issue, campaign-finance reform, and won’t back the same provision he sponsored just a couple of years ago.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/8066.html
* And now he’s both for and against overturning Roe v. Wade.
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/19/mccain-abortion /
snoop...better trot yourself over to Huffpo...that's where the real dust-up is happening. A liberal democrat site with a faction trying to knock the pins out from under Obama.
Your long winded post would be more effective there...more than this choir you're preaching to here.
Wes,
I can't imagine anyone taking HuffPo posters seriously. Those folks are rabid crazy. HuffPo is the left's equivalent to freepers IMO.
OM
The quotes I've shown from Huffpo are not from their rabid mad dog posters...they're from the authors and bloggers that they give headlines...sanctioned by Huffpo.
And quite surprisingly, Huffpo sanctions both left and right leaning people!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chip-hanlon/this-isnt-infighting-this_b_111328.html
So keep trying, it's just noise and of no concern to anyone but desperate republicans who can't stand the thought of being in exile for another 40 years.
Wes,
I wasn't really commenting on the quotes you provided, but the kind of people who comment on that site. I assumed you based the popularity of the blog posts on the comments it received from the moonbats over there.
I realize that now. I misunderstood.
Yawn. That little tidbit you are inflating is kinda lost among all those articles about McCain about to flip flop on his Iraq position and the nice piece talking about how exports to Iran increased 100 fold under Bush.
You know I love your projections, BTW. Here is a dose of truth you purposely chose to ignore:
The Senator's intention to give religious faith an important place in the public square, should he be elected president, is not a revelation. He has long argued for a connection between religion and politics. In his June 28, 2006, Keynote Address at the Call to Renewal's Building a Covenant for a New America conference, Obama talked about the need "to tackle head-on the mutual suspicion that sometimes exists between religious America and secular America." This need is "a prayer worth praying, and a conversation worth having in this country," Obama concluded.
But feel free to keep pining for some non-existant democratic implosion. That and a few valiums will get you a nice hot cup of STFU! ;)
snoop,
My reply would be a McCainism that you know very well...you know...the polite words that he had for a colleague on the senate floor...but I won't.
I'll just repeat what my old granpap told me...a bucket of cold water works wonders on freeing the dog knot.
"My reply would be a McCainism that you know very well...you know...the polite words that he had for a colleague on the senate floor...but I won't."--Wes
What are you talking about? I must have missed that. All I know of is Cheney's remark to Leahy on the Senate floor.
Okay. I did miss it. Thanks, Wes.
Here is the exchange in-case anyone else missed it.
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/capitol-briefing/2007/05/mccain_cornyn_cursing_showdown.html
"My reply would be a McCainism that you know very well...you know...the polite words that he had for a colleague on the senate floor...but I won't."--Wes
The way McCain flip-flops, his words for Cornyn now are probably, "I love you, man!"
LOL...Omigod, not the dreaded, all-powerful PUMA!
Wes, how many people have even heard of PUMA? Mountains out of mole hills, Wes... Do you realize how desperate you sound? You guys are grasping for anything because a) the Republican Party is in shambles; b) the present conservative movement is in its last throes; and c) John McCain is such a weak candidate that not even his own party likes him.
Desperation, Wes...
The beat goes on from disappointed democrats and the slip sliding of Obama:
-- Here are a few steps on the road to heartbreak. Obama fudging on FISA, fudging on the Court's gun control strike-down, the faith based charity funding -- no way that it doesn't compromise the separation of church and state...
I am looking over my left shoulder and I don't like some of what I see calling itself "moderation" because it looks like a losing strategy shaped by experts whose expertise is in knowing how to lose elections. -- Sherman Yellen, Huffpo.
That's cool. I was just being jerky.
Marcotte's probably right. PUMA looks like a fraud. Darragh gave McCain $500 back in February (and no money to anybody else) according to newsmeat.
http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?st=MA&last=Murphy&first=Darragh
Wesley said...
...I hope that Obama can hold it together.
You lying bastard.
there is a group of democrats extremely unhappy with the shifting policies of Obama
Yes. An insignificantly small group.
Exactly. If we ignore the fact that PUMA was formed after Hillary dropped out, let's take their word that they made up 10% of Hillary's support. That amounts to 1.4 million voters. Can we do without them?
Well, a June gallop poll found that hispanics favor Obama over McCain by 62% to 29%. Bush had 44% of the hispanic vote in 2004, so there's more than enough replacement votes there.
Obama has made vast improvements among veterans, reducing republicans traditional lead of typically 70% to under 60%.
Obama is courting moderate religious voters, again making inroads that make right wingers sweat like pigs.
So if 1.4 million people who are most likely made up of operation chaos leftovers want to "switch" to McCain, let 'em.
It appears the woman who started PUMA never contributed a dime to Hillary's campaign however she did contribute to John McCain's 2000 campaign.
Looks like PUMA was started to help McCain NOT Hillary.
http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/comments/pumas_are_swiftboats_darragh_murphy/
Obama has moved relentlessly to the right in a breathtaking, stunning exhibition of cynicism, duplicity, and fraudulent campaigning.
Once again, you lie, accusing Obama of using McCain's tactics.
"Fort Marcy Airlines"
Now THAT is comedy. Unlike Stewart, Colbert or Mahar.
The true hack, keeps repeating the same tired, lame crap hoping it will turn to gold. Usually, the more they polish it, the more it stinks.
"The true hack, keeps repeating the same tired, lame crap hoping it will turn to gold. Usually, the more they polish it, the more it stinks."
Interesting: That sounds like EVERY Dem nominee since JFK. And most of the time the voters saw right through the shine to the lousy, tired, failed ideas underneath. And they'll probably do it again this time around.
somehow believes that man can be molded by government policy into the perfect being who can live happily in Utopia.
We're not looking for utopia, just competence, you know, when government works for us and not against us. And after 7 years of being beaten down with fear and lies, its time for a change.
You think McCain will win? Seriously, without any partisan spin?
I am probably voting for McCain (I have my reason, but I am having a harder and harder time rationalizing that) and I don't see McCain winning by a longshot at this point. Even conservative radio is having a hard time. They are just nitpicking Obama's statements and won't even try to push McCain as a viable candidate. This thing is looking worse every day for McCain and the Republicans if you look at this objectively IMO.
You think McCain will win?
We're talking about mr nolefturns. Thinking was never an option for him...
It is pretty clear when you listen to talk radio that conservatives are in panic mode right now.
Today Hugh Hewitt was on "disecting" -( or should I say mindreading or wildly speculating about) an interview Obama gave. Hugh can't seem to make up his mind whether Obama isn't saying anything or is secretly declaring he is a communist/islamo-fascist. These guys are even more boring and pathetic than usual. It has become pretty clear they are not coordinated the way they were with Bush/Rove and just trying to fill-up the timeslot with a whole lot of nothing. I would bet that ratings are either down or not nearly as high as they normally are during an election year.
You are correct, OM...they are peeing in their pants. They have to make the electiona referendum on Barack Obama because they have another Bob Dole on their hands with Gramps as their candidate.
And Limbaugh is really Jeff Christie.
I was listening to Rush today and heard one of those seriously unfunny song parodies. This one was a take-off on the great Blazing Saddles theme song, reworked as Blazing Liberal, referencing Obama.
I think this one could backfire. Even some of the "salt-of-the-earth" types who listen to Rush and know the movie must recognize that we have had almost eight years of a Gov. Lepetomane/Hedley Lamarr administration and are sorely in need of a Sheriff Bart.
This afternoon the words of the actual theme song were running through my head, now associated with Obama.
He conquered fear and he conquered hate, he turned dark night into day.
Maybe someone form the NYT will give Rusty a call and ask him about these comments.
Nahhhhhh.
It's funny to me. Conservative cheerleaders like Wes are so happy to cite polls from liberal websites when it helps their cause. They are so happy to see a split in the Democrat party. What they fail to realize is it's not working. The media will not have a say in this election, liberal or conservative, despite their spin on who should win. It's not 2000 or 2004 for that matter. As ignorant as the public has shown itself to be, they are wiser this time around.
Truth of the matter is I, being a registered Democrat voting for Obama in November, was seriously disappointed in his recent switches. Not only his reversals, but also his inability to defend General Clark's true statements in regards to McCain. That being said, Obama is doing what he has to do to win the Whitehouse. MOST supporters understand this. Bill Clinton himself called it triangulation. The one's who don't are the die hard Clinton supporters who, as I have posted before, were looking for a reason to not vote for Obama anyway.
In closing I'd just like the conservative cheerleaders to listen to that clock on the wall in absolute silence. Shhh. tick. tick. tick. tick. No, no. That's not the terrorist bomb you're praying goes off that'll hopefully make the American public go to John McCain, that's time running out for your law breaking regime as we quickly make our through July and approach November. Merry Christmas!!