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July 22, 2008 7:44 pm ET
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On the July 21 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show, Michael Savage repeatedly attacked Media Matters for America, calling the group a "Stalinist," "anti-family," "illegitimate, dangerous fascist group[]," and asserted that Media Matters "ha[s] no place in America." His comments came after Media Matters documented, with transcript and audio, his July 16 remarks describing autism as "[a] fraud, a racket." Those comments have sparked protests and generated widespread media attention.

Throughout his three-hour broadcast, Savage asserted:

  • "I'm very fatalistic at a certain point. I may have invested 15 years of my life in radio and 40 years of my life in defense of the helpless children of the world -- and I have -- but if the irony is that I am attacked by gay men who do not have children, in the group called Media Matters, and they win and the children lose, I said, 'Then, it's God's joke. And if that's what God wants, then that's the way it is.' "
  • "[M]y comments were taken out of context by this radical, Stalinist, left-wing group, Media Matters that has done this before. They did it with the Muslims. They did it with the immigrants, and they do it of course each and every day as was done in the Stalinist Soviet Union. They have no place in America."
  • "Unless you actually listen to a man, it's very easy to crucify him. Remember there's mob -- there's a mob mentality out there. We live in very dangerous times where people are taken out of context and crucified in the media. It's interesting to me that I've devoted my entire adult life to defending the defenseless, and here I am, being attacked by those who do not have children, who hate children, who are anti-family in Media Matters, who take a statement that I make out of context and send it to the poor parents of autistic children and have them believe I'm their enemy. It's very, very clever, the devil. The devil is very clever, indeed. Don't underestimate your enemy is all I can tell you."
  • "[I]t's ironic that people who hate families and children -- a group called Media Matters, filled with anti-family individuals who do not marry; they're men who like men -- would take out of context comments that I made last week directed at the misdiagnosed, the falsely diagnosed, and the outright fakers in the autism field and try to make you, the parents of the truly autistic, attack me."
  • "If you permit illegitimate, dangerous fascist groups like Media Matters to get away with this, you will be living in the ex-Soviet Union in your own lifetime."
  • "[I]t's ironic that you would take the bait from an evil group like Media Matters, which is filled with men who hate families, men who hate children, and men who hate particularly conservatives who believe in borders, language, and culture. Those are the enemies of the truth. Those are the enemies of your children, not me."
  • "I want to actually conclude right now by saying again, at 3 o'clock in the morning, I woke up, and I said, 'Oh my God, not again -- not those fascists again taking me out of context.' How do they get away with it? How can criminal fascists like those in Media Matters not be stopped by the government for doing this to people by twisting their words and taking them out of context? I said, 'Well, you're living in a quasi-proto-Soviet Union where people can be damned for half-truths.' "

Savage concluded his broadcast by referring to his late brother, stating:

SAVAGE: And I thought, "Well, I don't want to exploit his memory for my own salvation." But then another thought came to me, which is that maybe, by talking about it, the people who've made up their minds based upon this false information will understand that there's another side to Michael Savage they don't know anything about. And I said, "Then, maybe, this silent boy, Jerome, will have spoken very boldly and loudly a half a century later to save his older brother, someone he was never able to talk to in real life. And I said, "I can give life to someone who was silent, who never had a voice."

And so, I give life to you, Jerome. And let God in heaven himself curse those who have brought this upon me. Let a horrible plague fall upon their homes. Let a horrible illness fall upon them for the rest of their existence. May they suffer the way they wish for me to suffer. Jerome, if you're in heaven, talk to God about this. Let him strike those people who have brought this upon your brother. Let him strike them with every power he has. Let him afflict them with the poison they've tried to put into the mind of the American people.

And so, here I am, ladies and gentlemen, there's not much more I can say without getting even more emotional than I am right now.

On the July 16 broadcast of his show, Savage asserted: "Now, you want me to tell you my opinion on autism, since I'm not talking about autism? A fraud, a racket. ... You know what autism is? I'll tell you what autism is. In 99 percent of the cases, it's a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out. That's what autism is." After Media Matters documented his comments, referring to the organization he called "the homosexual mafia group Media Matters," Savage said on July 18: "They're a fascist, homo-- goes out of their way to misquote me, take me out of context, and try to get me in trouble with people who love me. I stand by my words. Media Mat-- and that's it. And that's where I'm going to leave it."

Savage also falsely recast his original remarks on the July 21 broadcast of his program, asserting that his July 16 comments distinguished between "the truly autistic" and those he described on July 21 as "the misdiagnosed, the falsely diagnosed, and the outright fakers in the autism field."

From the July 21 edition of Talk Radio Network's The Savage Nation:

SAVAGE: I'm very fatalistic at a certain point. I may have invested 15 years of my life in radio and 40 years of my life in defense of the helpless children of the world -- and I have -- but if the irony is that I am attacked by gay men who do not have children, in the group called Media Matters, and they win and the children lose, I said, "Then, it's God's joke. And if that's what God wants, then that's the way it is."

And then I thought about something else, and this is far more important. I thought about my poor deceased brother who lived without having spoken a word his entire life. He lived into his 20s. He was given away when he was very young -- five or six -- tore the family to pieces. He was sent to a snake pit on Staten Island where he suffered for 20 years, and he died in that hospital never having spoken a word. And I said: "Should I bring up the memory of my brother on the show today?" I said, "Is that cruel? I mean to do this? Should I use him to defend me?" And then, you know what? It came to me. I said, "Yeah, I'm going to tell the story of Jerome." I said, "Maybe then this little boy who never spoke a word can speak boldly in defense of his brother 50 years later. And maybe then the power of the silent brother will be heard." I'll be right back.

[...]

SAVAGE: Autism itself, when it's real, is tragically -- it's tragic. It's heartbreaking -- when it's real. But according to [Vanderbilt University] Professor [Stephen] Camarata, who has worked in the field for 30 years, 50 to 60 percent of children put into this category are not autistic. And my comments were taken out of context by this radical, Stalinist, left-wing group, Media Matters that has done this before. They did it with the Muslims. They did it with the immigrants, and they do it of course each and every day as was done in the Stalinist Soviet Union. They have no place in America.

But let me go a step further here. Would you want to put a child into a disease category if he simply stacked up or lined objects? Stacking up or lining up objects may indicate autism. Did you hear this? Just stacking up or lining up objects. Well, as a little boy, I lined up my shoes under the bed. Over and over again, I would count the tiles in the bathroom as I sat there. I would go around and around, back and forth, to meditate on the number of tiles and my eyes would count them, line them up in my head.

The fact is that I'm a genius. The fact is, I know I'm a genius by my creativity, by my achievements, by my IQ tests. I mean, you say I'm boasting; it doesn't matter what you say. There are geniuses in the world. There are ordinary people, and then there are people who are morons, imbeciles, and idiots. And there's a scale of intelligence.

[...]

SAVAGE: The first test is a screening test by an un-medical professional, and who in world would rely upon that as a test for an illness? It's the same with ADD or ADHD. If a child acted up in any way -- I remember when my kids were in school. If Tom Sawyer were alive, I wrote, even then, he would be declared ADD and put on a mental strait-jacket, chemical strait-jacket called Ritalin to control the child. It's a form of social control. It's also an easy way of getting rid of a troublesome child -- put them on drugs and dummy 'em up.

Now, we're talking about something entirely different here but, in context, it's not entirely different. We have a medical establishment that is very quick to diagnose illnesses that may or may not exist. I stick by those words, and again, I want to say: What in the world would I gain by attacking defenseless children who are sick when I myself have dedicated 50 years of my life to defend the defenseless? What in the world would I do that for when I've never done it?

I didn't do it. I wouldn't do it. It's the enemies of children. It's the enemies of family who took my words out of context and put it on the Internet and sent it around to parents who are struggling and crying to turn me into the enemy. It's they who are the enemy. That's who they should be looking at Kyle. Kyle, you know, before you go -- I don't know what I can do but I would like my people to stay in touch with you. I have a feeling I'm going to want to know you and stay in touch with you. Let's send Kyle a copy of Healing Children Naturally. If he doesn't have one, he's going to have one now. Stay on the line, Kyle -- school psychologist who says I have a point.

Again, I don't want to lose the forest for the trees. Autism is not fake. I didn't say it was. But there are fakers within the field of autism and there are children who are being told to fake autism for the benefits -- that's my point. How hard is that to understand? Well, I guess it's very hard to understand.

[...]

SAVAGE: Unless you actually listen to a man, it's very easy to crucify him. Remember there's mob -- there's a mob mentality out there. We live in very dangerous times where people are taken out of context and crucified in the media. It's interesting to me that I've devoted my entire adult life to defending the defenseless, and here I am, being attacked by those who do not have children, who hate children, who are anti-family in Media Matters, who take a statement that I make out of context and send it to the poor parents of autistic children and have them believe I'm their enemy. It's very, very clever, the devil. The devil is very clever, indeed. Don't underestimate your enemy is all I can tell you.

But, again, I will caution you to not rush to judgment, because the truly autistic child needs as much help as he or she can get. The truly autistic child needs the funding that should be provided. It is the falsely diagnosed, the misdiagnosed, and the outright fakers who want the benefits, who must be found out, and must be turned out, so that the money can go to the truly needy in this particular field.

That was the essence of my conversation last week. Why would I have chosen to attack defenseless children when I've never done so in my entire life? Think about that. What would I have gained by doing it? Nothing. So, I didn't do it. The fact of the matter is the enemies of the truth did it by using you, the parents of the injured child, to turn on me, the defender of the child. Very clever, the enemy, but those are the times that we live in.

Let me say again. All of us have seen the faker with the disability placard on his car pull up in the blue zone somewhere in America, whether it's to a drive-in restaurant or a handicapped spot. And we've seen them get out of their car and look perfectly healthy and the minute you look at them, they grab a cane, or they grab their back and they hobble. We find that to be reprehensible, don't we? Because those blue spots were put there for a reason. They're put there for the convenience of those who are not as able as we are to get around, and we don't want the phony -- phony disabled to use them.

[...]

SAVAGE: It is The Savage Nation. The autism controversy is very important because true autism is extremely heartbreaking. I have devoted my entire life, even as a child, to defending the helpless, mainly the helpless children because of a tragedy in my own family, and it's ironic that people who hate families and children -- a group called Media Matters, filled with anti-family individuals who do not marry; they're men who like men -- would take out of context comments that I made last week directed at the misdiagnosed, the falsely diagnosed, and the outright fakers in the autism field and try to make you, the parents of the truly autistic, attack me.

[...]

SAVAGE: I have always been ahead of my time. I've always taken flak for being so, for flying at the head of the formation. It's unfortunate, though, that we live in a time that a discredited group created by Hillary Clinton and George Soros, namely Media Matters, would be allowed to get away with this without being immediately arrested for distorting the factual record of what goes on in the media. It's astounding that we have a government that does not control outright fascist groups like this, who have tried and tried and tried to distort the record. When I made my comments a while ago about illegal aliens, illegal immigrants, this very same group made it sound as though I were attacking Hispanics. When I made my comments about Osama bin Laden and [Iranian President Mahmoud] Ahmadinejad, who has said all Jews could be killed in Israel and it would be worth it to him to kill all the Jews in Israel -- and it would be worth it to him to kill all the Jews in Israel so long as half the Iranians died, he wouldn't care. I repeated it over and over again. They took it out of context and said I was attacking all Muslims.

Let me explain to you. If you permit illegitimate, dangerous fascist groups like Media Matters to get away with this, you will be living in the ex-Soviet Union in your own lifetime.

[...]

SAVAGE: There is no definitive medical diagnosis for autism. There are no biomedical markers for autism. The tests for autism are all subjective. Are there real cases of autism? Absolutely. Are they tragic? Terribly so. Should the children get the care that they need? Yes.

In order for them to get the care they need, there must be funding. There's a limited amount of funding, particularly in this economy. We cannot permit the false, the fake, and the outright drifters to steal any of this money. Do you understand what I'm saying to you? Moreover, thousands of people have gone to experts years later and said, "My child was misdiagnosed. It has stigmatized my child for life for us telling him that he had autism, for the people in the school system to treat him as though he had something wrong with him." I am telling you we need to have a frank, national discussion about autism, and we cannot simply sit here and say, "I don't know what it is. I don't want to talk about it. Savage is a monster." It's the people who have taken me out of context who you should be emailing and who you should be attacking, not me.

I have fought on behalf of the helpless children all of my life, and it's ironic that you would take the bait from an evil group like Media Matters, which is filled with men who hate families, men who hate children, and men who hate particularly conservatives who believe in borders, language, and culture. Those are the enemies of the truth. Those are the enemies of your children, not me. I'll be right back.

[...]

SAVAGE: So, before you attack, a) find out who published these statements, what I was referring to, and what I actually believe. And I want to ask you something, those of you who made up your mind. What would I have gained? What was I -- what would I have gained by attacking autistic children? Tell me. Tell me what I would have gained by it, particularly since you know, if you've listened to this show, I have talked for 15 straight years about many topics. One of the recurring themes on my show are children and children how they're exploited in our society, and I've talked about my own personal situation, which I will not going to repeat again. And I've written the book, Healing Children Naturally, which I highly recommend that you buy and read. Go to MichaelSavage.com. I don't think we're going to have enough copies left after today.

I have been involved in trying to help the helpless for my entire life, going back to childhood, because of my poor brother. And I want to actually conclude right now by saying again, at 3 o'clock in the morning, I woke up, and I said, "Oh my God, not again -- not those fascists again taking me out of context." How do they get away with it? How can criminal fascists like those in Media Matters not be stopped by the government for doing this to people by twisting their words and taking them out of context? I said, "Well, you're living in a quasi-proto-Soviet Union where people can be damned for half-truths."

And then I thought, "I can't control the outcome of this. I cannot control the outcome of a hurricane anymore than I can control the outcome of this." All I can do as a boater by the way -- and I've been boating all my life -- is steer through the storm. I can't do anything else. I couldn't stop and scream and go, "Oh, I can't do it." No, I can just steer and hold on to the wheel. I knew this would be a rough day, nor do I think the storm is over. I don't think that I'm out of the storm; I think I'm in the eye of the hurricane, and I think tomorrow, I will see the other side of this storm. And I said, "You know what? It's in God's hands. It's not in my hands. And if God wants me off the radio, that -- so be it. If God wants me to continue to work on behalf of the things I believe in and believe to be true, so be it." I'm willing to take it either way.

But then another thought and another set of ideas came to me in the middle of the night and the still quietness of the evening, and that was my poor brother -- my poor, poor brother who never spoke a word. He was silent until the day he died. And I said, "Should I raise this issue of my brother who was born" -- I don't know. Should I just say brain-damaged? I don't know how -- what words to use. Couldn't talk, was blind, couldn't walk, and the parents gave him away to a home when he was five. It tore our hearts out. Everyone -- everyone's heart was ripped to pieces. He lived another 20 years in that snake pit on Staten Island 'til he died a horrible death from the mistreatment of that snake pit.

And I thought, "Well, I don't want to exploit his memory for my own salvation." But then another thought came to me, which is that maybe, by talking about it, the people who've made up their minds based upon this false information will understand that there's another side to Michael Savage they don't know anything about. And I said, "Then, maybe, this silent boy, Jerome, will have spoken very boldly and loudly a half a century later to save his older brother, someone he was never able to talk to in real life. And I said, "I can give life to someone who was silent, who never had a voice."

And so, I give life to you, Jerome. And let God in heaven himself curse those who have brought this upon me. Let a horrible plague fall upon their homes. Let a horrible illness fall upon them for the rest of their existence. May they suffer the way they wish for me to suffer. Jerome, if you're in heaven, talk to God about this. Let him strike those people who have brought this upon your brother. Let him strike them with every power he has. Let him afflict them with the poison they've tried to put into the mind of the American people.

And so, here I am, ladies and gentlemen, there's not much more I can say without getting even more emotional than I am right now.

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    • Author by worrierking (July 22, 2008 7:51 pm ET)
         
      Why do all of these sorry sacks of excrement always find a way to get a plug in for some screed they've written?
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      • Author by carlileb5935 (July 23, 2008 2:32 am ET)
           

        "And if that's what God wants, then that's the way it is.' "

        Yes, that is what she wants. 

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        • Author by christopherpking (July 23, 2008 11:32 am ET)
             
          You mean, "He Wants"?
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          • Author by wzwriter (July 23, 2008 12:34 pm ET)
               

            You mean, "He Wants"?

            No, she.  The Godess gave birth to your god.

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            • Author by christopherpking (July 23, 2008 1:17 pm ET)
                 

              What ever makes YOUR boat float!

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              • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (July 23, 2008 1:32 pm ET)
                   
                And yours sink...
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                • Author by christopherpking (July 23, 2008 1:37 pm ET)
                     
                  Impossible! You can not sink something that never floated to begin with.
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                  • Author by wzwriter (July 23, 2008 5:55 pm ET)
                       

                    Impossible! You can not sink something that never floated to begin with.

                    Good point.  When you read the Bible critically, most of its stories don't hold water.

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    • Author by archfiend (July 22, 2008 7:55 pm ET)
         
      I'm awfully concerned that the twenty-nine paragraphs of transcript MMFA has posted here are taken out of context.

      Sure, these twenty-nine paragraphs make Savage Weiner LOOK bad, but what about the stuff that MMFA didn't transcribe? There must have been some words... right?
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      • Author by carlileb5935 (July 23, 2008 2:37 am ET)
           

        Yeah, probably more like this:

        And I said, "Should I raise this issue of my brother who was born" -- I don't know. Should I just say brain-damaged? I don't know how -- what words to use.

        Which "issue" -- unless he was autistic, which he wasn't-- is totally irrelevant to the predicament in which Savage has placed himself. But very revealing about his integrity and judgement. 

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    • Author by snoopy (July 22, 2008 8:01 pm ET)
         

      Des-per-a-tion,

      It's a game we like to play,

      all the live long day,

      Des-per-a-tion...

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      • Author by fawltylogic (July 23, 2008 2:35 am ET)
           

        Why does this idiot keep calling Media Matters homosexuals? I don't get it.

        The only thing I can think of is that he is the biggest closet case ever.

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        • Author by carlileb5935 (July 23, 2008 2:38 am ET)
             
          David Brock-- you know, the guy that hates kids.
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          • Author by wzwriter (July 23, 2008 8:55 am ET)
               

            David Brock-- you know, the guy that hates kids.

            W. C. Fields was once asked if he liked children.  His response: "Only when properly cooked.".

            :-)

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    • Author by snoopy (July 22, 2008 8:08 pm ET)
         

      BTW, this would be @ss covering 201 for the right wing. He reads MMFA, tries to cover his @ss. He reads MMFA covering his covering, he refines his claim and makes changes where necessary. Now we are on him covering his coverings covering.

      This class is also known as fluid historectomy 101.

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      • Author by neondesert (July 22, 2008 8:38 pm ET)
           

        "And let God in heaven himself curse those who have brought this upon me. Let a horrible plague fall upon their homes. Let a horrible illness fall upon them for the rest of their existence. May they suffer the way they wish for me to suffer."

        I mean, @ss covering is @ss covering, and it's been going on forever.  But taking the lords name in vain?  I mean, surely the lord doesn't really care that much for the savage-weiner, or he would have shut weiners mouth years ago... 

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        • Author by snoopy (July 22, 2008 9:04 pm ET)
             
          I'm just wondering why republicans like oscar-mayer won't take responsibility for their personal life? He screwed up, and then tried to lie about it. He's playing a victim and blaming everyone but himself for his poor choices in life. And he lives off of handouts - how does one who does nothing but sit on a couch and spew hatred get paid so much by the political agencies that prop up that kind of lifestyle? All he needs now is a little black face paint and he'll be exactly what he accuses minorities of being...
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      • Author by carlileb5935 (July 23, 2008 2:39 am ET)
           

        He reads MMFA covering his covering, he refines his claim and makes changes where necessary. Now we are on him covering his coverings covering.

        Hi Michael ! 

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        • Author by wzwriter (July 23, 2008 12:36 pm ET)
             

          He reads MMFA covering his covering, he refines his claim and makes changes where necessary. Now we are on him covering his coverings covering.

          That's our cover....  :-)

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    • Author by DAWUSS (July 22, 2008 8:33 pm ET)
         
      The plot thickens
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    • Author by worrierking (July 22, 2008 8:43 pm ET)
         
      Right, we're the "criminal Fascists but he's the one saying that we "have no place in America".

      And he's even resorting to using his "poor, poor brother".

      We've all got poor, poor brothers. We've seen them denied services and benefit cuts by crusading conservatives like Savage.

      How many people who've written to Dr. Weiner's sponsors to complain have brothers, sisters, children or friends who suffer from one of the many forms of autism?

      Why are we supposed to get all weepy over his brother while we listen to him insult our own?
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      • Author by snoopy (July 22, 2008 9:00 pm ET)
           
        Remind me one day to tell you about how the IRS treated my dumb @ss low income bro' who wouldn't pay $1500 in back taxes...
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      • Author by deeznuts (July 22, 2008 9:43 pm ET)
           

        My thoughts exactly.

        *ring*ring*

        Hi, kettle? This is the pot...you're black!

        *click*

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      • Author by fawltylogic (July 23, 2008 2:38 am ET)
           

        Why are we supposed to get all weepy over his brother while we listen to him insult our own?

        Exactly. As usual with bullies, they can dish it out, but as soon as someone takes them on they run screaming about being treated poorly.

        I feel bad for Savage's brother. I have nothing but contempt for Savage himself. 

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        • Author by carlileb5935 (July 23, 2008 2:42 am ET)
             

          The plight of Savage's brother has absolutely nothing to do with autism nor does it make Savage a special case, somehow immune to criticism. So why did he bring it up?

          Another typical right-wing appeal to irrational emotion. Their stock in trade. 

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      • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (July 23, 2008 1:36 pm ET)
           

        I'll bet Abel got it worse from his brother Cain than Weiner did from his brother, whom he probably thought of as an embarrassment at the time.

        That memory is probably the sourse of a lot of his inner shame and projection of his faults upon others. As for his obsession with homosexuality, that's probably as far into the back of the closet as he is.

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      • Author by christopherpking (July 23, 2008 1:40 pm ET)
           
        I do not have any poor poor brothers. They all got off their lazy arses and went to work.
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      • Author by christopherpking (July 23, 2008 1:41 pm ET)
           
        Warrior, you have brothers with autism?
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        • Author by worrierking (July 24, 2008 7:55 am ET)
             
          No, but one of my brothers has a severe brain injury and we've been dealing with the system and creeps like Savage for more than 20 years.
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        • Author by worrierking (July 24, 2008 9:10 am ET)
             
          I've also got two cousins and a niece with Autism.
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (July 22, 2008 8:49 pm ET)
         
      Does Savage mean that the people who operate Media Matters are gay...or does he mean all of us who contribute our posts are gay? I need some clarity on this point before I can direct a well-guided retort in Savage's direction.  ;>)
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      • Author by annes10 (July 22, 2008 10:05 pm ET)
           
        I know! It's the same for me, I'm all confused too. On top of all my other responsibilities, now maybe I'm going to have to be a gay man with no children who is also a fascist stalinist criminal vermin with a plague on my home. I don't know how I'll ever catch up!
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        • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (July 23, 2008 12:37 am ET)
             

          I'm a straight guy with no wife, ex-wives or kids, so I think I'm pulling a little anti-family weight around here. If I could figure out how to get those dependent tax-breaks, I could even quit subsidizing others' families.

          I checked out that Sunday BilldO thread today about birth control, and learned from one of the trolls that my having sex for purposes other than procreation, and outside of marriage, is pissing off some Republicans, so I'm making some points here.

          I hate families sooooooooo much !!!

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          • Author by mescal (July 23, 2008 3:20 am ET)
               

            This admission of yours, Col, confirms that you and all others who share your anti-family views are little better than hell-spawned antichrists!

            I hope you enjoy your lustful, carnal pleasures.

            I know I do.                  ;o) 

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      • Author by eddy3957 reregistered (July 22, 2008 11:02 pm ET)
           

        I think Savage is concerned entirely with the articles, not the commentary.  It's the articles that are quoted in the other media outlets.

        The way I figure it, they believe they have very little chance of conning the type of person motivated enough to actually go to a website and read the comments.  We're all a lost cause in their eyes.   And of course MMFA is also a lost cause--but it can inform other media outlets that have readerships that would otherwise be uninformed about their lies, distortions and smears.  (But very few of those will actually come here and even fewer read the comments.)

        When Savage says this site is gay, he implies that it's a gay interest group site--not that it's a site which happens to be headed by a gay man.  This is to marginalize it in the mind of his listeners.  It's also to provide a plausible motive for his audience to believe that he is being attacked in the wrong.  "I attack gays so obviously this gay interest group is just making stuff up to get back at me." is the implicit rationalization he provides for his audience.

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        • Author by eddy3957 reregistered (July 22, 2008 11:16 pm ET)
             

          Now that I think about, I think the comments part of this site provides a kind of service to the cynical and conscious dissemblers (not everyone) featured here.  It provide them an instant review of the article, often in depth and in detail for them to be able to judge how people in general, non-MMFA readers, might react when the article is quoted in other less cynical outlets..

          On the other hand, a salutary aspect is that the commentary kind of completes the thought for MMFA.  The commentary adds what MMFA likely would include in the articles if they had anonymity.  So the commentary in a way is an integral part of the article---but only for those few motivated enough to seek out the site and read it.

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      • Author by christopherpking (July 23, 2008 1:42 pm ET)
           
        Well, the closest I have been to being gay is being molested..... Does that count as being gay?
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    • Author by DAWUSS (July 22, 2008 8:50 pm ET)
         
      Can someone cast light on George Soros and Hillary Clinton's relationship with Media Matters?
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      • Author by IRONY 101 (July 22, 2008 8:52 pm ET)
           
        Well, Hillary Clinton is not a gay man...but she does have a child. I am uncertain if Soros is with progeny or of his sexual persuasion. Hope this helps...  ;>)
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      • Author by eweston8542983 (July 22, 2008 11:48 pm ET)
           

        Both Hillary and Soros were arround when Media Matters was deamt up. They had some input. Some of Soros's money has come to MMfa though intermediaries that he dosen't control.

        A year or so ago accusations of impropriety and influence would come from trolls occasionally. I consider such accusations deflections. Niether is attached to the organisation. I'm not sure why it would be of any note if they were.

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      • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (July 23, 2008 1:39 pm ET)
           

        Can someone cast light on George Soros and Hillary Clinton's relationship with Media Matters?

        Yes.

        None.

        Next irrelevant question?

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        • Author by christopherpking (July 23, 2008 1:43 pm ET)
             
          I call BS.
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          • Author by commonsenseliberal (July 23, 2008 2:41 pm ET)
               

            Well, it's your side of the aisle that's saying Soros and Clinton are in bed with MMfA.  You have the burden of proof.  You think a link exists. 

            Put your money where your mouth is.  Prove it.

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            • Author by christopherpking (July 23, 2008 5:21 pm ET)
                 
              Um, you knw as well as i do that Hillary admitted to have ties with Media Matters.
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              • Author by eweston8542983 (July 23, 2008 9:19 pm ET)
                   

                Ties yes, historical record and all, infuence today, nada. Reason why it would be of any concern given the cross polinization from conservative think tanks with the media, lobbists and runng/serving(?) republicans.

                You got something else,bring it.

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    • Author by Fire Starter KD (July 22, 2008 8:52 pm ET)
         

      I'm lost. First he's throwing out inflammatory comments on whoever he pleases depending on what he had for breakfast that morning, now he's guilt tripping people by bringing up his brother and at the same time throwing around insults like "fascist" and "f*g" however he pleases? I am lost. I tried my best to read this transcript, but it left me lost. Also...

      The fact is that I'm a genius. The fact is, I know I'm a genius by my creativity, by my achievements, by my IQ tests. I mean, you say I'm boasting; it doesn't matter what you say.

      I'm not saying you're boasting. More like you're BSing.

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    • Author by socal7425 (July 22, 2008 9:00 pm ET)
         
      Pheww!  I knew this guys was nutso but had no idea he had so many screws loose.  MMFA must feel great to know they are getting to this guy.  I think the next issue Savage should tackle is the condition of paranoia.  I have a feeling he's quite an expert on that subject.
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      • Author by MiddleLeft (July 23, 2008 9:20 am ET)
           

        Pheww!  I knew this guys was nutso but had no idea he had so many screws loose.

        It was most appalling to see that Glen Beck gets to interview Savage while substituting for Larry King for the first time.  The only useful purpose for Savage is to make Glen Beck appear reasonable and intelligent.  If you didn't know any better you would think this Glen Beck guy is OK.

         

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        • Author by worrierking (July 23, 2008 9:31 am ET)
             
          There's another reason why the right needs Glenn Beck.

          Can you think of anyone else who could make Sean Hannity seem intelligent?
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          • Author by foghornleghorn (July 23, 2008 10:00 am ET)
               
            When Beck filled in for Larry King, his regular show was on at the same time.  All Glen, all the time. (ick!)
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        • Author by Lorelei (July 23, 2008 1:39 pm ET)
             
          Thank God, We DO know better!
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    • Author by bcvb1949a (July 22, 2008 9:02 pm ET)
         

      One thing Michael (Wiener) Savage said was absolutely correct.

      Media Matters for America was funded by George Soro's and supported by the Satan Hillary Rodham Clinton. 

      If Media Matters; then why is MMFA just supporting the Democrat Party? 

       

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    • Author by eddy3957 reregistered (July 22, 2008 9:11 pm ET)
         
      Savage said today he's going to take a few days off.  I read  yesterday there's to be a protest in front of his San Francisco studio.
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      • Author by eddy3957 reregistered (July 22, 2008 9:12 pm ET)
           
        that is a protest tomorrow.
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      • Author by IRONY 101 (July 22, 2008 9:19 pm ET)
           
        I caught a little bit of his this afternoon and he's really trying to spin his way out of this...as though his original comments were directed solely at the medical/pharmaceutical industry. However, as I recall his original comments didn't he disparage the kids themselves?
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        • Author by k2 (July 22, 2008 9:26 pm ET)
             
          "What do you mean they scream and they're silent? They don't have a father around to tell them, "Don't act like a moron. You'll get nowhere in life. Stop acting like a putz. Straighten up. Act like a man. Don't sit there crying and screaming, idiot."
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          • Author by IRONY 101 (July 22, 2008 9:41 pm ET)
               
            Thanks...I was too lazy to look it up, but my memory was apparently correct (this time). How can Savage try to talk his way out of this...?
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            • Author by spockosemail2393 (July 23, 2008 1:56 pm ET)
                 

              What Savage is doing now is some of the same stuff that I saw with the KSFO folks. 

               Realize that he will use any and all means to fight this. Appeals to sympathy is a big one.  At KSFO they used all the methods in the right-wing bag of tricks, legal actions, threats, mis-characterizing what they were saying. Claiming that they didn't say what they actually said. And character assassination of the head of the group. 

              What will be interesting of course is how the MSM will end up covering this. They will do the X vs Y story and give Savage an opportunity to spew his spin and NOT QUESTION IT. They don't consider it their job usually to point out that what he just said was a lie. They will go to "experts" who will talk about autism and then they will talk to Radio experts about the size of his market and what they mis understand as free speech. 

              But they will have a harder time talking about WHY Savage is continually supported by people who own the radio stations and the advertisers. 

              The goal, I believe, it to show corporate America that Savage and his ilk, are liabilities and NOT assets. Until that happens they will continue to support them because they can make money. They will also work to distance themselves from the actual man because that is something that don't want to be connected to in the eyes of the public.

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          • Author by wzwriter (July 23, 2008 12:42 pm ET)
               

            "What do you mean they scream and they're silent? They don't have a father around to tell them, "Don't act like a moron. You'll get nowhere in life. Stop acting like a putz. Straighten up. Act like a man. Don't sit there crying and screaming, idiot."

            I guess that if we are to believe Michael Weiner's latest explanation, he was realling calling the entire medical/pharmaceutical industry a moron, a putz, and an idiot....

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        • Author by Graydogs (July 22, 2008 10:45 pm ET)
             

          Savage: " You know what autism is? I'll tell you what autism is. In 99 percent of the cases, it's a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out."

           Sounds like he is attacking children to me. In 99 percent of the autism cases, the children are "brats"?  

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          • Author by IRONY 101 (July 22, 2008 11:14 pm ET)
               
            And you notice how Savage is now attempting to deflect attention away from what he actually said. Yea, blame Media Matters...what a joke.
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    • Author by Cheney2012 (July 22, 2008 9:16 pm ET)
         

      Savage on Media Matters: "They have no place in America"

      Well, at least he got that one right!

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      • Author by deeznuts (July 22, 2008 9:45 pm ET)
           

        *golf clap*

        CleVER.

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      • Author by annes10 (July 22, 2008 9:49 pm ET)
           

        I thought about your post for a while and then ... I made a donation to MMfA.

        Cheers!

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      • Author by worrierking (July 23, 2008 9:33 am ET)
           
        Don't let the virtual door hit you in the ass on your way out.
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      • Author by historygeek001 (July 23, 2008 1:54 pm ET)
           

        NoLeftTurns:

        So...America only has places for people who agree with you or Savage?

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    • Author by steeve (July 22, 2008 9:32 pm ET)
         
      Look at that chicken jackass failing to stand by his words after pretending he would.

      Let's make it clear again and again that this man IS conservatism, until the conservatives themselves force him off the air.
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    • Author by sportsguydave (July 22, 2008 9:36 pm ET)
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      Well, at least he got that one right!...noleftturns

      =======================================

      Yawn. Truth hurts, don't it, troll??

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    • Author by jmh (July 22, 2008 10:14 pm ET)
         

      Contrary to conventional wisdom, being a communist dictator does not make you a leftist. Actually, Savage's use of political attribution is really about laziness and a pathetic confession that he is a narrow-minded baggoon* of a bigot whose intention is, merely, to stir foment for foment's sake alone. Why can't we have real political discourse in this country....rhetorical question...(the answer lies somewhere in the realm of the number of "Big Fat Idiots" who rule the airwaves).

      So perhaps this foment may get him released from his contract (i.e. fired) and then Sean Hannity can feel sorry for him. 

      *I meant to type baffoon, but I think I like it as it stands ;o)

       

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    • Author by captfoster2 (July 22, 2008 11:10 pm ET)
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      Awe..... Mikey's a little upset!

      Did we forget to drink our cup of java this morning?

      Mr Sausage......er Weiner............ oh..... Savage..... whatever.....

      Your a sorry excuse for a human being.....

      Even if your words are meant to be taken as comedy or jokes.....

      It is not working!  Of course it could be argued that it is..... you have MMfA talking about you.....

      You do realize that by doing this Mr Weiner you are really only preaching to the choir..... only your audience can be so weak minded to think your in any way funny! 

      Your 15 minutes are coming to a close Mr Weiner..... enjoy it while you can!

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      • Author by rgetz4915 (July 23, 2008 4:23 pm ET)
           

        Mr Sausage......er Weiner............ oh..... Savage..... whatever.....

        Well, that's it, Capt. Foster.

        From now on I can only refer to his show as The Sausage Weiner.

        RG 

         

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    • Author by matrixbio2014 (July 22, 2008 11:25 pm ET)
         

      Tonight, I listened as Savage read from the Bible for an hour.  God, how I laughed.  He's crapping bricks.  He made an overt, direct comparison between himself and the Old Testament prophets (which I found offensive - you are no prophet, Savage!).  

       And this curse:

      "And so, I give life to you, Jerome. And let God in heaven himself curse those who have brought this upon me. Let a horrible plague fall upon their homes. Let a horrible illness fall upon them for the rest of their existence. May they suffer the way they wish for me to suffer. Jerome, if you're in heaven, talk to God about this. Let him strike those people who have brought this upon your brother. Let him strike them with every power he has. Let him afflict them with the poison they've tried to put into the mind of the American people."

      This is truly whacked out stuff.  Calling down disease upon others?  Reminicent of his celebration of Ted Kenedy's brain tumor.

      He is a few years from retirement, and has probably lost a lot of money in the market in the recent economic downturn, and was planning to pad the nest for a few more years, and now this!  His listeners are all tapped out from the last lawsuit for which they ponied up - who is going to come to his rescue this time?  I await the outcome....

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      • Author by IRONY 101 (July 22, 2008 11:50 pm ET)
           

        I think John McCain knew some of the Old Testament prohets personally.  ;>)

        Seriously, I recently began re-reading the Bible just to re-familarize myself with what I say I do not subscribe to. Reading the Old Testament as an adult is like reading science fiction...a talking snake, humans who live hundreds of years and a God so vengeful and irrationally petulant that he kills a group of his own men because they were not performing the sacrificial rituals to his liking. Michael Savage loses whatever purported scholarly credibility he may have had if he starts relying on the Old Testament for support of his insanity.

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        • Author by lapsedlawyer (July 23, 2008 4:36 am ET)
             

          Actually, I put it more in the "fantasy" category.

          And neither terribly believable nor terribly well-written fantasy at that.

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        • Author by fawltylogic (July 23, 2008 12:02 pm ET)
             

          Don't forget the off-hand reference to giants!

          I always love to bring that up. The whole beginning of the Old Testament is awesome.

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          • Author by wzwriter (July 23, 2008 6:02 pm ET)
               

            Don't forget the off-hand reference to giants!

            New York Giants or San Francisco Giants?  :-)

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      • Author by Brabantio (July 23, 2008 12:06 am ET)
           

        "He made an overt, direct comparison between himself and the Old Testament prophets..."

        As much as I dislike partisan hacks like Hannity and Limbaugh, I can understand that behavior.  It may be dishonest, but it follows a no-holds-barred sort of mentality to achieve a distinct purpose.  And some people feed into what they do to support that purpose.  Shock jocks like Imus and Stern draw people in with envelope-pushing humor and commentary.  Sometimes lines are crossed, but at least one gets the sense that there's some element of control over what is said and done.

        But Savage is just flat-out psychotic.  Saying that children are faking autism?  Comparing himself to prophets?  Calling on God to punish those who criticize him?  That's the sort of thing you expect from a deranged homeless person.  And that has no place on the radio, in all honesty, because mental illness shouldn't be considered entertainment.  The only people who should be interested in hearing someone like this are people who are planning on treating the condition that is displayed.

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        • Author by IRONY 101 (July 23, 2008 12:20 am ET)
             

          Brab, I echo your sentiments... But the difference between Savage and Limbaugh is that Limbaugh knows exactly where his line is. He skates the line and sometimes he puts a toe over it. But he knows exactly what he can get away with...he's a pro. Savage, on the other hand, lacks both the judgment and discipline to do that. In short, he's a nut jub...not terribly unlike the homeless guy on the corner yelling at cars.

          Hannity is just a lightweight with the kind of bullshet that appeals to old ladies and stupid people and although he is a pathological liar he doesn't come close to the line...he's really a chicken at heart. But don't all of them make you wonder about the concept of talent? Limbaugh is talented at what he does...sort of like Hitler was talented at what he did. But Hannity and Savage are hacks. Why are they rich???   ;>)

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          • Author by Brabantio (July 23, 2008 12:35 am ET)
               

            "Savage, on the other hand, lacks both the judgment and discipline to do that. In short, he's a nut jub...not terribly unlike the homeless guy on the corner yelling at cars."

            I think it's the same distinction I was making.  Limbaugh knows where the line is, Savage doesn't understand the very concept of such a boundary.   That would be a valid explanation for the defensiveness he's engaging in, because if he doesn't grasp the concept that there are certain things that are inappropriate to say, then he would take any criticism as an attempt at censorship, persecution, fascism, etc.

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    • Author by eweston8542983 (July 22, 2008 11:54 pm ET)
         

      Satan Hillary Rodham Clinton?

      Does the pope know the devil has gone transex? BCV, did you let him know. It would be the honerable religious thing to do you know.

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    • Author by msu2ba (July 23, 2008 12:28 am ET)
         

      Wile E. Weiner, Sooooooper Genius!

       Geez, Mikey, if you have to tell us you're a genius, maybe you're not!

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    • Author by gwmok206 (July 23, 2008 12:59 am ET)
         

      He is not attacking the kids.  He is attacking those that are attacking him and trying to create controversy. What amount of truth he brings forward can't be judged easily.  I am moved by his sincerity and concern for the truly autistic.

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      • Author by annes10 (July 23, 2008 10:34 am ET)
           

        Oh come on.  His purpose in attacking the autistic was to rouse the ire of his listeners against the vast majority (like 99%) of those with diagnoses of autism, because he claims they are grifting the system. He further implied that proper parenting (i.e. calling autistic kids names) is curative. And actually, on the July 19 show, he didn't apologize or retract, he just sas not sure of the real proportion of autistics he still believes are grifters. And if you listened carefully to the July 16 show, you might have noticed that he doesn't seem to grasp the difference between autism, ADD, ADHD, and OCD. Basically he was just spewing poison like usual.

        He attacks anyone he feels like, any time he feels like, on a soapbox that eventually will span the entire universe. Think about it ... long after he is gone, long after we all are gone, his radio signals of spewed hatred and vituperation (mixed with megalomaniacal boasts, food critiques and cute doggie stories) will still be spreading through the universe.  

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      • Author by Kyle_Broflovski (July 23, 2008 11:56 am ET)
           

        I am moved by his sincerity

        Wiener's sincerity often gives me a 'movement' of my bowels...

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      • Author by unitarianpatriot (July 23, 2008 1:11 pm ET)
           
        Ladies and Gentlemen: I give you a prime example of why this country could be in big trouble. That we have one American this unable to evaluate what he is reading and listening to is frightening. That there are enough of these folks to have given President Bush the majority of votes in 2004 is so far beyond frightening I don't know how to describe it.
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      • Author by ukobserver (July 23, 2008 6:55 pm ET)
           
        Either you work for this idiot or you are him in disguise!! There is no way anyone with cognative brain functions can listen to the unedited recording or read the transcript from July 16th and take anything else from it that this low classed person was attacking autistic children.
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    • Author by cpinva (July 23, 2008 1:50 am ET)
         

      wow, sen. clinton is satan now? damn, that's quite a step up from just a politician!

      what did savage get his degrees in, stupid? the guy can't even distinguish between communism/socialism, and fascism, two polar opposite ideologies. how did this clown get on radio to begin with?

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      • Author by IRONY 101 (July 23, 2008 1:59 am ET)
           

        ...how did this clown get on radio to begin with?

        Cuz Bozo died and they needed a quick replacement... Wouldn't it be a great Saturday Night Live spoof to have Michael Savage hosting a kiddie show?  ;>)

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    • Author by magnolialover (July 23, 2008 7:57 am ET)
         

      Honestly, this has been fun to watch Savage go into meltdown mode, even more than usual.

      By his own assertion, if MMFA shouldn't be in America for printing his own words IN CONTEXT, then maybe he should leave as well, since they were, his own words that were put up here, as in the above ramblings from a mad man.

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      • Author by fawltylogic (July 23, 2008 12:08 pm ET)
           
        Yeah, this meltdown is a classic. Feels like watching the scene in "Back to the future" where Biff and his gang in a car chase Marty on his skateboard, only to end up crashing into a truck and get covered in manure.
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    • Author by wzwriter (July 23, 2008 8:53 am ET)
         
      Michael Weiner has no place on the public airwaves, or in public.  He needs to be deeply sedated and locked away in a rubber room for his own protection.
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    • Author by JimmyCraghorn (July 23, 2008 9:47 am ET)
         
      Does he realize that Tom Sawyer was a fictional character?
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      • Author by Fire Starter KD (July 23, 2008 10:30 am ET)
           
        I'd put my money on him not being aware. He doesn't seem to know anything about everything else he's talking about, so I wouldn't be surprised if he thinks Tom Sawyer was real. From what I can grasp, he's out of touch with reality. We need to either get him off of whatever he's high on, or if he's not high, put him on some anti-psychotic medicines, for both his own good and everyone else's.
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    • Author by newzhound (July 23, 2008 11:01 am ET)
         

      Media Matters for America has done a great job of reporting the facts here.  And The Silly Savage just can't handle the truth.  So, like every other bully in this world, he's running scared.

      Some years ago when he was on Hate Talk 560 in San Francisco, The Silly Savage got all upset because the station would not let him talk over an address by the President of the United States.  Imagine!  Well, he got all outraged and talked about quiting so people would call in and ask him not to and all such bluff.  What a buff-fune.

      I've told the story before, but it merits repeating.  Also when The Silly Savage was on that radio station one of his fellow employees finally had enough and peed into this stupid leather hat he used to wear!

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    • Author by newzhound (July 23, 2008 11:03 am ET)
         

      The Silly Savage said "It's interesting to me that I've devoted my entire adult life to defending the defenseless..."

      While an obvious lie, could he be any more craven?

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    • Author by pjcarter (July 23, 2008 11:13 am ET)
         
      Yo Weiner.  What part of "verbatim" don't you understand? 
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    • Author by shaggles (July 23, 2008 11:51 am ET)
         
      Wow!  Mr Tough Talk sure is playing the victim on this one.  Maybe someone needs to tell him to knock it off, act like a man, don't be an idiot.  What a fool.
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    • Author by MoonbatYouBet (July 23, 2008 1:03 pm ET)
         
      For a genius Mikey seems to have a very loose grasp on the meanings of words he likes to use.  One of the trademarks of fascism and Stalinism is the control of speech by the government.  So, if he is so firmly against such things, why does he say this: "How can criminal fascists like those in Media Matters not be stopped by the government for doing this to people by twisting their words and taking them out of context?"?  Sure sounds like a call for government intervention into someone else's speech to me.
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    • Author by magnolialover (July 23, 2008 3:48 pm ET)
         

      The thing that gets me the most on this, are his defenders on the internet (like the whackos over at WND). People keep saying that they admire Savage because he "tells it like it is". Yeah, if telling it like it is, is living in an alternate universe where up is down, left is right, and so on. Someone on here I think even said something about they admire his sincerity. Seriously? I don't care how "sincere" someone is, if they're freakin' nuts, then they're nuts.

      I do feel however, that he won't lose his job because of this. Why? Mostly for the reason that I think that there are folks behind him, deep in the shadows, that keep paying his way. They have to be. The man has no major sponsors, and even if, and it's a big if, his listenership is as big as they say it is (I doubt this as well, coming from a magazine that gave him some freedom of speech award), he can't be bringing in much cash to his employers. I think, and this is only my opinion that I can't prove, that he is covertly funded by folks who like for him to stir the pot, and to say these insane outlandish things. This latest tirade might even be pre-planned. I wouldn't put it past him. While I disagree with just about everything he says, I do think that he's intelligent, and I think that he knows exactly what he's doing. He's so over the top, how can it NOT be an act?

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    • Author by ukobserver (July 23, 2008 7:07 pm ET)
         

      So he says he will defend his comments, and when the time comes he acts like a three year old girl who has fallen over and grazed her knee, before jumping on the usual conservative martyr strop wagon ("Why me? Why do they always pick on me?") and trying to use a family member to deflect criticisim of his actions.

       

      Spineless, gutless, soul-less. ball-less pussy.

       

      A neutured Jack Russell terrier has more testicular fortitude than a dozen conservatives when they are in the wrong and are caught out.

      And they call the progressives cowards.     

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    • Author by daisyfly (July 23, 2008 8:10 pm ET)
         

      40 years defending the defenseless?  Why today, it was 50!  And he supports defending the defenseless by calling them idiots, brats, and stupid?  Don't ever let him help your children.  The man is a one man walking disappointment.

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    • Author by ogg (July 23, 2008 9:27 pm ET)
         

      Mikey the Savage Weiner:

      http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Book-Homeopathy-Michael-Weiner/dp/0895294125

      Utter hogwash:

      http://www.skepdic.com/homeo.html

      The Weiner Nation: pig-ignorant, dirt-stupid -- pick an appropriate adjective. 

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    • Author by interestingobserver (July 24, 2008 9:17 am ET)
         
      If, when Savage called autism a "fraud and a racket" he was referring to the disease itself, rather than misdiagnoses, how could it be that "in 99% of the cases, it's a brat that..." could be referring to the disease itself, rather than to misdiagnoses.  If you believe Savage thinks autism does not exist (i.e. the "fraud and racket" comment) how could you then interpret his 99% remark to refer to autism rather than to misdiagnoses of autism...after all, we just acknowledged that Savage believes autism does not exist!!!  Had he just left it at "autism is a fraud and racket" and did not follow up with the 99% remark, the interpretation that Savage was referring to the disease itself would be plausaible.  Is Media Matters's position (and the position of most of the posters on here) that Savage thinks 99% of people with a disease he considers to be non-existent are spoiled brats???
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