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Matthews did not challenge Madden's claim that McCain "trying to hug" Clinton voters given McCain's recent comments about her

July 24, 2008 4:40 pm ET

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SUMMARY: On Hardball, after former Mitt Romney spokesman Kevin Madden claimed that Sen. John McCain, "whether he's talking about health care or ... he's talking about what he really likes about Hillary Clinton, how he's worked well with her -- he's trying to hug those voters because he believes that his calculus for victory is right in the middle. It's not playing to the -- to the left," Chris Matthews did not note that McCain has derided Sen. Barack Obama's health care plan as "HillaryCare."

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On the July 23 edition of MSNBC's Hardball, host Chris Matthews asserted that there are certain groups of Democrats "that have a problem ... supporting Barack Obama" and asked Kevin Madden, former spokesman for Mitt Romney's presidential campaign, "Aren't you working on those groups?" Madden responded by asserting that "McCain, whether he's talking about health care or whether he's talking about the environment or he's talking -- he's talking about what he really likes about Hillary Clinton, how he's worked well with her -- he's trying to hug those voters because he believes that his calculus for victory is right in the middle. It's not playing to the -- to the left." However, Matthews did not point out that, while talking about health care at a recent event, McCain derided Obama's plan as "HillaryCare." At the July 17 town hall, McCain asserted, "My friends, we've seen this movie before," and added, "It was called 'HillaryCare' back in 1993, and we're not going to do it again. We're not going to have the government take over the health care system in America."

From the July 23 edition of MSNBC's Hardball with Chris Matthews:

MATTHEWS: Kevin, let's go. Let's talk turkey here, right? Let's talk ethnic and gender politics. There's three groups of people, I'm sure there are tons of them, but I can think of three that are having a problem, who are Democrats, supporting Barack Obama. There are women voters who feel that Hillary Clinton was the best bet for a woman president in -- ever and that she didn't get the shot she should've gotten.

MADDEN: Right.

MATTHEWS: There are people who are very pro-Israeli, Jewish voters, right-wing Christian voters, some of them, who feel that Barack Obama is not their guy on the Middle East, right?

MADDEN: Right.

MATTHEWS: There are also a lot of rich Clinton supporters who built careers investing in the Clintons --

MADDEN: Well, you are --

MATTHEWS: -- who aren't too thrilled about having the wrong guy become the -- the next Democratic president. Aren't you guys out there trying to get all three of those groups?

MADDEN: Absolutely.

MATTHEWS: Aren't you working on those groups?

MADDEN: And -- and -- and --

MATTHEWS: Absolutely.

MADDEN: Lunch -- lunch-pail Democrats. I mean, that's essentially that -- where -- your representative of the big middle. And you see McCain, whether he's talking about health care or whether he's talking about the environment or he's talking -- he's talking about what he really likes about Hillary Clinton --

MATTHEWS: Right.

MADDEN: -- how he's worked well with her -- he's trying to hug those voters because he believes that his calculus for victory is right in the middle. It's not playing to the -- to the left.

MATTHEWS: But that thing today about the Holocaust, the second Holocaust. I think -- and saying that --

MADDEN: That's a big risk for him.

MATTHEWS: Barack Obama is willing to lose an elec -- a war so he can win an election. That's pretty raw stuff.

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    • Author by wesley (July 24, 2008 4:54 pm ET)
         

       -- Chris Matthews asserted that there are certain groups of Democrats "that have a problem ... supporting Barack Obama" -- mmfa

      Mathews is clearly on to something...even if he swerved into it. Here's a conundrum for mmfa and other zealous poll watchers...from new NBC poll:

      When asked who is in the main stream on issues, the respondents gave the nod to Obama 60% - 45%.

      When the same respondents were asked who reflects their values...the nod went to McCain 58% - 47%. 

       

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      • Author by skeptical (July 25, 2008 11:55 am ET)
           
        So 58% of the people don't believe their values are mainstream?
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      • Author by skeptical (July 25, 2008 11:56 am ET)
           
        And how come the percentages add up to over 100%?
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        • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (July 25, 2008 1:40 pm ET)
             

          Because most people think they're not like the majority of people who are not like them, but they do think that they share the values of a minority who make up a majority of people who represent the larger group that those people don't consider themselves a part of.

          Does that help?

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    • Author by anotheramerican (July 24, 2008 4:54 pm ET)
         
      Note to MMFA... McCain is trying to 'hug' the Clinton voters... He is not trying to 'hug' Hillary. ;-)
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      • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (July 24, 2008 11:34 pm ET)
           

        Here, Barney. Work on this "connect the dots" exercise. When you've mastered this one, we'll move to the next level.

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    • Author by eweston8542983 (July 24, 2008 5:08 pm ET)
         

      Except for some unidentified population groups, at least unidentified in polite conservative company. I believe John McSoggy is a serial voter hugger.

      Some people just have trouble with serial huggers entering their personal space John. A word to the wise should be suffiucient.

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    • Author by gg (July 24, 2008 8:55 pm ET)
         
      Well, it looks like I hit the trifecta, I am a woman, Jewish and if not rich, well off-yet I am for Obama, go figure! Why, well because all of the above. I am a woman, so I want a pro choice candidate:, as a Jew I want religion out of the political process and as someone who is well off, I got there because I grew up in a union household that paid a decent wage to get me a college education, somthing that is now a thing of the past.
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      • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (July 25, 2008 2:08 am ET)
           

        GG, you may just be confused. A few months ago, I heard a caller to Rush Limbaugh's show who wasn't sure if he was a liberal or a conservative.Rush had a few "test questions" he asked the caller and was able to make an on-the-spot diagnosis.

        I can't remember the exact wording of the questions, but I can get close;

        1. Would you rather keep your money, rather than give it to the government to hand over to nagroes on crack with many children?

        2. Would you rather be free to run your own life, instead of the government dictating every area of it?

        3. Do you think Americans should be free to practice the religion of their choice, as opposed to passing legislation requiring all Americans to hate the Baby Jesus?

        4. Would you like to limit the government's ability  to take your gun away and force you to gay-marry?

        Now check your answers. If you answered "yes" to more than one of these, Congratulations! You're a conservative!

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        • Author by jmh (July 27, 2008 12:30 pm ET)
             

          by all _Appearances_  Limbaugh is a tool, a hermit, and a misanthrope.

          nothing personal... did I forget to mention, that he appears to be a drug addict who uses his own self-loathing as a bullying defense mechanism.

          not that I'm name-calling or anythng... I'm just sayin' 

           

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    • Author by gg (July 25, 2008 9:01 am ET)
         
      Yes Col

      That is what I love about "less government interference" conservatives; they only want the government to be with you in the bedroom and the doctor's office.
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    • Author by jmh (July 27, 2008 12:20 pm ET)
         

      I think it  was Buddha, no sorry, it was my neighbor Bud who said: "an omission is not necessarily a lie". 

      I have never seen Matthews use deceit. (Let me take advantage of the moment to express the absolute truth that Sean Hannity's every word  _is_ a lie...or at least 102% of everything he utters)

      The most egregious thing here is the use of the term "lunch-pail democratics"

      Perhaps we should stop using metaphors and analogies in political discourse.

      Not to mention I'll be sick for a week in mourning for the memory of having had my Flintstones lunch-pail stolen from me in fourth grade

      oh, the humanity! 

       

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