MSNBC's Witt aired McCain ad without noting misleading claims about visiting wounded troops, Afghanistan hearings, military funding
SUMMARY: On MSNBC Live, Alex Witt aired an ad from Sen. John McCain asserting that Sen. Barack Obama "made time to go to the gym, but canceled a visit with wounded troops. Seems the Pentagon wouldn't allow him to bring cameras." But in neither segment did Witt or her guests note that Obama reportedly previously visited wounded troops at Walter Reed Army Medical Center without the media, or that although Obama decided not to visit Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in Germany, he reportedly made phone calls to wounded soldiers there. Nor did they challenge any of the other misleading claims in the ad.
During the 8 a.m. and 9 a.m. hours of MSNBC Live on July 27, anchor Alex Witt aired an ad from Sen. John McCain asserting that Sen. Barack Obama "made time to go to the gym, but canceled a visit with wounded troops. Seems the Pentagon wouldn't allow him to bring cameras." But in neither segment did Witt or her guests, McClatchy Newspapers chief Washington correspondent Steve Thomma and Hill blogger Bob Franken, note that Obama reportedly previously visited wounded troops at Walter Reed Army Medical Center without the media, or that although Obama decided not to visit Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in Germany, he reportedly made phone calls to wounded soldiers there. Nor did Witt or her guests note that according to Obama spokeswoman Linda Douglass, "We told military officials explicitly that Senator Obama had absolutely no intention of bringing any members of the media or photographers in with him to visit the wounded warriors." In addition, while the ad asserts that Obama "made time to go to the gym, but canceled a visit with wounded troops," the accompanying footage shows Obama playing basketball during his July 19 visit with U.S. troops at Camp Arifjan in Kuwait, which neither Witt nor her guests noted.
During the 8 a.m. segment, Thomma asserted that "Obama had a gaffe here by canceling a long-planned trips to visit these wounded troops in Rammstein, Germany." He added, "I think he looked a little weak in the process, and it was a gaffe." During the 9 a.m. segment, Franken said, "I think that the Obama people blew it. Plain, simple, period." He also asserted, "And the McCain ad I think is going to draw a little bit of blood because I believe in the case of Barack Obama, if you live by the photo op, you die of the photo op, or in this particular case, the lack of a photo op."
By contrast, in a July 26 post on his blog Political Punch, ABC senior national correspondent Jake Tapper wrote:
The McCain campaign provides no evidence for the assertion that being told he [Obama] couldn't bring media had anything to do with the trip's cancellation.
Oddly, when discussing Obama's trip to the gym, the ad uses footage of Obama playing basketball with US troops in Kuwait over the weekend.
Tapper also provided Douglass' statement: "We told military officials explicitly that Senator Obama had absolutely no intention of bringing any members of the media or photographers in with him to visit the wounded warriors. In all of our communications with the military, we stressed that this was to be a private visit by Senator Obama."
Similarly, in a July 26 post on the Time blog Swampland, national political correspondent Karen Tumulty wrote, "[T]here's a little problem with this line: 'And now, he made time to go to the gym, but cancelled a visit with wounded troops.' " Tumulty continued, "Sure enough, the accompanying footage shows Obama playing basketball ... with the troops in Kuwait." Tumulty also asserted that "[t]here is absolutely no evidence" for the ad's suggestion that "Obama cancelled the trip because he was told he couldn't bring the media."
Further, in uncritically airing the McCain ad's contention that Obama "never held a single Senate hearing on Afghanistan," Witt did not note that McCain is a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, but reportedly has not attended a single Armed Services Committee hearing related to Afghanistan in 2007-08. Nor did Witt note, in uncritically airing the McCain ad's claim that Obama "voted against funding our troops," that McCain himself voted against legislation funding the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq or that, as Washington Post media critic Howard Kurtz wrote, that "Obama has frequently voted to finance the war but was one of 14 Senate Democrats to oppose a war-funding bill last year -- after Republicans removed troop withdrawal deadlines -- saying he did not want to be 'validating the same failed policy in Iraq.' "
From the 8 a.m. ET hour of MSNBC Live on July 27:
WITT: We talked about this new McCain camp ad, and it is releasing it. It's slamming Barack Obama for not visiting the wounded soldiers in Germany. So let's take a little look at it.
NARRATOR [video clip]: Barack Obama never held a single Senate hearing on Afghanistan. He hadn't been to Iraq in years. He voted against funding our troops. And now, he made time to go to the gym, but canceled a visit with wounded troops. Seems the Pentagon wouldn't allow him to bring cameras.
WITT: Well, the Obama camp says that Senator Obama scrapped the plans to visit those troops after the Pentagon raised the concerns it might involve the troops in politics. So, I'd like your reaction to this new McCain ad, considering everything.
THOMMA: Well, I think Senator Obama had a gaffe here by canceling a long-planned trips to visit these wounded troops in Rammstein, Germany. He says -- his campaign says -- they gave several explanations, Alex, but the bottom line was, they said, "The Pentagon told us not to come."
You know, Senator Obama says he wouldn't take the orders of the Pentagon on issues like whether to get out of Iraq, but somehow he'll take their orders from a junior PR guy at the Pentagon about whether to visit wounded troops. I think he looked a little weak in the process, and it was a gaffe.
WITT: OK, I'm curious, though, Steve. Do you think there's a chance Senator McCain can overplay this hand?
THOMMA: Yeah. Yeah, it's well-put, Alex. I think Senator McCain personally should have left this to surrogates and/or the media to cover. [unintelligible] been a lot of coverage of this screw-up not visiting the troops, and I think it would have been best left to others.
WITT: OK. Steve Thomma, not leaving anything to others. We're having you with us next hour, as well. Thanks so much.
From the 9 a.m. ET hour of MSNBC Live on July 27:
WITT: Let's talk about what McCain is doing now by releasing this stinging new ad slamming Obama for not visiting the wounded soldiers in Germany. Let's take a look at part of it.
NARRATOR [video clip]: Barack Obama never held a single Senate hearing on Afghanistan. He hadn't been to Iraq in years. He voted against funding our troops. And now, he made time to go to the gym, but canceled a visit with wounded troops. Seems the Pentagon --
WITT: Well, the Obama camp says that Senator Obama scrapped the plans to visit the troops after the Pentagon raised all those concerns that it might then involve the troops in politics. But I'm curious about your reaction, Bob, to this new McCain ad.
FRANKEN: Well, they blew -- first of all, I think that the Obama people blew it. Plain, simple, period. And if they were smart, they would just come out and say, "You know, we made a mistake." And the McCain ad I think is going to draw a little bit of blood because I believe in the case of Barack Obama, if you live by the photo op, you die of the photo op, or in this particular case, the lack of a photo op. The truth of the matter is, is that he had sort of gone unchallenged all week by the adoring media who were singing "Obama Mia" throughout the week. So finally, when he made a misstep, it was amplified quite a bit because of all the easy going that he'd had in the other photo ops.
WITT: "Obama Mia." May I quote you on that and attribute you when I do? Anyway --
FRANKEN: Yeah, you don't want to accept blame for that one, do you?
WITT: No, but I'll give it to you. But the question with John McCain now. Do you think he might overplay his hand here with this? Is there a risk of that?
FRANKEN: Oh, probably. I suspect he will overplay it. But subtlety has never been a part of any kind of campaign. One could argue that the whole Obama trip was an overplay of a major proportion, and John McCain has to sort of match that. So what you always get in a campaign is exaggeration. So, sure, he's going to overplay it. That's what politicians do.















I don't get it?! What was misleading about the McCain AD? Obama did NOT visit wounded troops but did have time to go to the gym..
Nothing misleading about the AD what so ever...
The AD did not mention anything else you stated in this "Story" because the AD did NOT pertain to what you mentioned...
You know, considering how often your lot makes the "out of context" claim, you'd think you'd understand the value of the missing context here. But then: your lot are a bunch of self-rightous hypocrits, so I guess I should have expected this kind of post.
Alright, so your grandmother dies and you take three days off of work for travel. In your next performance review you're criticized for taking that time off of work, without noting the reason.
I'm sure you wouldn't consider that "misleading", right?
So what you always get in a campaign is exaggeration.
LOL... Talk about the understatement of the week.
What bothers me is that if anyone on TV is going to analyze a particular ad by a candidate then they it would seem they have an obligation to give all of the circumstances and particular facts regarding the issue the ad purportedly raises. MSNBC is not obliged to give an in-depth defense against an ad against any candidate. But if they elect to show the ad and analyze it then I think they do have an obligation to provide the full picture in defense against the ad. To do otherwise is to give at least some partial validation to the ad in question. Either they should do it right or nor not do it at all.
It's amazing how few political talking points exist in a week of cable news. Hundreds of hours add up to roughly 12 sentences.
What bothers me is that if anyone on TV is going to analyze a particular ad by a candidate then they it would seem they have an obligation to give all of the circumstances and particular facts regarding the issue the ad purportedly raises.
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That quote came straight from factcheck.org's mission statement. Why the hell can't the MSM be more like that, dammit?
Why the hell can't the MSM be more like that, dammit?
Combination of laziness, incompetence and/or partisanship...depending on the circumstances.
Best take on Obama's European visit (and by "best" I mean most ridiculous & entertaining) was on Fox this weekend with that Banderas Bimbo (Julie or Julia?)
She had a guy from the Daily Telegraph, a Fox favorite, somebody with a British accent so the redneck ideas sound more sophisticated.Trying to explain Obama's reception in Germany, Banderas dumbed it down to this;Europeans hate Bush, so they're naturally going to cheer for Obama.(At least she acknowledged the fact that McGrampy is just the new version of Bush).
Then she wandered off into Crazytown, asking the British Fox hack how this "Un-American" and "Anti-American" mood was going to translate back here.
Which, going by recent polling regarding Bush's approval ratings, would make 2/3 to 3/4 of U.S. citizens Un-American or Anti-American.
The Brit, being obviously a little brighter than Banderas, if no less a whore, tried to run defense for her, interjecting his comment that he wouldn't describe Obama as "anti-American".
Banderas clarified herself, saying that of course, Obama wasn't anti- or Un- American, just his supporters.
OK, I'll give her "Un-American", regarding the Germans. They are not American, though that smear is usually reserved for Americans who don't respect the principles of the U.S, and not to describe people who are simply not U,S. citizens.
But to describe a 6 figure crowd, waving American flags, and cheering an American presidential candidate as "Anti-American", probably based on their dislike (not hatred) of a current U.S. President who has shown a general disrespect for many American ideals, and their approval of Obama,had to be one of the most ridiculous bits of propaganda I've heard in quite a while.
Wingnuts, relax about Obama's warm reception in Europe. I think they skew a little younger, a little more educated, and more experienced through their own history (Germany especially). The polls in this country still have McCain and Obama pretty close. Our electorate is , on average, older, less educated, more ignorant, and less familiar with history.In general, more scared of the unfamiliar. Grampy McCain still has a pretty good shot, thanks to the stupid and weak vote.
Kitty Pilgrim - you reminded me. She was terribly biased the evening I saw her. She was biased against Obama, and then she was interviewing Republican Jim DeMint. He was there trying to claim that the Senate was holding votes in secret. They mentioned that big long bills were getting passed but that no one could have read through them. Like that's something new! It's not new at all, but they don't have any ammunition to use so they are throwing the kitchen sink at the Dems. She claimed that this action made the Democratic-controlled Senate different than other sessions, adn then said that this was one of the reasons that Congress has a low approval rating! Congress doesn't have a low approval rating because of the votes the Senate recently had taken.
It'd be great if the Republicans weren't being obstructionist on all bills. It's like my niece who wouldn't put on her clothes in the morning when she didn't want to go to school. My sister sent her to school in her pajamas twice, and now my niece puts her clothes on in the morning when she's told to.
The reason the bills are being passed the way they are being passed is because of the <a href="http://coburn.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=HoldItems.Home"> holds </a> that the Republican Senators are misapplying and overusing! It's the Republicans who are misbehaving. My niece tried to claim that her mom was embarrassing her too instead of acknowledging she was embarrassing herself.
The link didn't work.
http://coburn.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=HoldItems.Home
This is Senator Tom Coburn trying, but failing, to justify the overuse and abuse of the "hold" process.
Republican Jim DeMint. He was there trying to claim that the Senate was holding votes in secret. They mentioned that big long bills were getting passed but that no one could have read through them.
I'm sure DeMint read the entire PATRIOT Act, too, in the few hours before it was submitted and voted on.
Yeah, right.
Can't waited until the Obama crowd or the 527's? start hacking away at JohnBoy. Just a touch of talking to the North Vietnamese while a prisoner along with the fire on that aircraft carrier etc. Just a hint of it...just like McCains ads. And he said NO personal attacks...Excuse for McCain..it is not personal, it is about his character....yea, right and you gave the name of the Steelers defensive lineman to your captives or was it the Packers defensive linemen...Get ready everyone, I think that right after the Convention, there will be an onslaught on McBush, the non-Catholic, and he will throw a hissy fit.
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All of us political junkies are like a bunch of folks standing around a kettle of water minutes after the flame is lit- just watching in boredom, to casual to heated conversations, and finally anticipation of the boil.
The campaigns are still in simmer - things will heat up fast during and after the conventions - and then many of "the sleepers" will get involved. These people are those little bubbles you see on the side as the kettle heats up - just sitting there doing nothing really dramatic until things hit the boiling point. These are the Americans that will make the difference in this election. What it will boil down to is the people - and how many turn out to vote.
We will have some of the most brilliant people in the history of American politics going at each other in '08 - and thanks to development and diversity of technology, the media hype and spin will be at an all-time high. The winner will be the ones who can separate the truth from the fiction before the voting deadline.
When I think sleeper, I think of provocative acts by imbeded agents.
I think your meaning is viable. I just remember what nixon and friends did in 68. Rush says he wants to see something like that, or worse.
The recent news of peace and envirenmental groups being infiltrated by state agencies. If mere state wingnuts do this, it doesn't take much imagination, to wonder at what the wingnuts in the federal level have arranged for Denver.
If Obama had gone, he would have been slammed for exploiting the troops for political gain. Time to get used to everything being wrong...
Yeah, airing ads at all (and airing them uncritically on top of that) is pretty shoddy journalism. That's why I don't watch the TV for my news. You have to unlearn everything you see/hear. It's a waste of time.