MSNBC's Buchanan falsely suggested Obama did not visit wounded troops, repeated smears of Obama's patriotism
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SUMMARY: On Morning Joe, Pat Buchanan asserted that an ad by Sen. John McCain attacking Sen. Barack Obama for not visiting the U.S. military's Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in Germany played into "the sense that, you know, Barack is not one of us. He's just not a normal guy who would go see the wounded troops." In fact, Andrea Mitchell reported that, while in Iraq, Obama "visited a casualty unit in the Green Zone, without photographers, as part of the congressional delegation."
After echoing smears long circulating in the conservative media about Sen. Barack Obama's patriotism, MSNBC political analyst Pat Buchanan asserted that a new political advertisement by Sen. John McCain attacking Obama for not visiting the U.S. military's Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in Germany played into "the sense that, you know, Barack is not one of us. He's just not a normal guy who would go see the wounded troops." Co-host Joe Scarborough replied: "And again, as the McCain campaign's saying, won't see the troops because -- and this is what the Pentagon said: We'll let him go see the troops, he just can't take cameras with him to film it." But contrary to Buchanan's suggestion that Obama would not "go see the wounded troops" and the McCain campaign's assertion, repeated by Scarborough, that he canceled his visit to Landstuhl because he couldn't "take cameras with him to film it," NBC News chief foreign affairs correspondent Andrea Mitchell reported on July 25 that while in Iraq, Obama "visited a casualty unit in the Green Zone, without photographers, as part of the congressional delegation." Neither Buchanan nor Scarborough mentioned Mitchell's report or noted that Obama has also reportedly visited wounded troops at Walter Reed Army Medical Center.
In addition, neither Buchanan nor Scarborough mentioned the response of Obama spokeswoman Linda Douglass, who stated: "We told military officials explicitly that Senator Obama had absolutely no intention of bringing any members of the media or photographers in with him to visit the wounded warriors" at Landstuhl. Indeed, as ABC senior national correspondent Jake Tapper noted in a July 26 post on his blog Political Punch, "The McCain campaign provides no evidence for the assertion that being told he [Obama] couldn't bring media had anything to do with the trip's cancellation." Similarly, in a July 26 post on the Time blog Swampland, national political correspondent Karen Tumulty wrote that "[t]here is absolutely no evidence" for the ad's suggestion that "Obama cancelled the trip because he was told he couldn't bring the media."
Buchanan's comments came on the July 28 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe. After playing McCain's "Troop Funding" ad, Scarborough asked Buchanan to assess Obama's trip to Europe and the Middle East and "the long-term impact of the trip and this dustup." Buchanan asserted that although "the trip has been a tremendous help for Barack Obama on net," Obama "had problems on it, and the worst of them, I think, was this visit to the hospital." He elaborated: "Now, I think that's a vulnerability. There's -- because the real knock on Barack is that he's a guy that really is not all that patriotic. He's out on the left. He's out there with Reverend Wright. He doesn't like the flag pin. His missus is not all that proud of America. And this feeds right into his worst negative." Scarborough then said: "And you're not saying that all yourself. You're saying, though, that's the narrative that's been played against him, and this reinforces it," while Buchanan nodded in the affirmative.
From the July 28 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe:
SCARBOROUGH: Hey, Pat, what's the long-term impact of the trip and this dustup?
BUCHANAN: Well, of the trip -- I'm getting a little feedback here in the ear -- the impact of the trip I think has been excellent for Obama, in the sense that it's -- gee, I'm having a little trouble, because again --
SCARBOROUGH: Hey, that's Chris --
BUCHANAN: I'm listening to myself.
SCARBOROUGH: Chris --
MIKA BRZEZINSKI (co-host): Yeah, Chris Licht is trying to --
SCARBOROUGH: Chris read the end of your book, and he didn't like it. So, he's --
BRZEZINSKI: All right, let's fix his audio.
SCARBOROUGH: He's screwing around with you.
BRZEZINSKI: That's unacceptable. This is Patrick --
BUCHANAN: All right, I think it's fixed now.
SCARBOROUGH: OK. Go ahead.
BRZEZINSKI: OK. Go for it.
BUCHANAN: I think it's fixed now.
SCARBOROUGH: All right.
BUCHANAN: I think the trip has been a tremendous help for Barack Obama on net for this reason, Joe. What it's done is, it's put him on a world stage, and it's removed some of those doubts about him --
BRZEZINSKI: Yup.
BUCHANAN: -- that he can be a world leader, an American leader, and stand on a par with foreign leaders. The excellent reception he got -- I think that's a great help for him, and you see that in the polls. One of the downside of it is, it looks -- especially that Berlin thing -- it looks like people are trying to take this election out of the hands of the American people and basically crowning Barack Obama the leader --
BRZEZINSKI: Mm-hmm.
BUCHANAN: -- of the United States and the leader of the West before the election's been held.
SCARBOROUGH: Hey, Pat, let me ask you along those lines.
BUCHANAN: So I think you're gonna get a bit of backlash to that.
SCARBOROUGH: Yeah. Let me ask you along those lines, Pat. If James Baker and [Michael] Deaver and whoever else were sitting around a table in the summer of 1980, and somebody said, "Hey, let's go to Berlin and give a speech. We may be able to get 200,000 people there," would you all have sent Reagan?
BUCHANAN: I don't think so then, no. Because you would not have known how that would come out. Barack had this thing wired up going in. He had to make the trip to Iraq, and I really credit his team with this, Joe. They were getting beat up for not having gone to Afghanistan in a long, long time, and same with Iraq, and so they made a virtue out of necessity, turned this necessary trip into something of an international sensation. So you really got to credit them for doing well. He had problems on it, and the worst of them, I think, was this visit to the hospital. Now, I think that's a vulnerability. There's -- because the real knock on Barack is that he's a guy that really is not all that patriotic. He's out on the left. He's out there with Reverend Wright. He doesn't like the flag pin. His missus is not all that proud of America. And this feeds right into his worst negative.
SCARBOROUGH: Yeah. And you're saying that --
BUCHANAN: I think he should have, staff or no staff --
SCARBOROUGH: And you're not saying that all yourself. You're saying, though, that's the narrative that's been played against him, and this reinforces it. Do you think the McCain campaign, though, is just singing to the choir? Do you think he's just saying what people -- conservatives want to hear, or do you think this may have a real impact in swing states like Ohio, now Minnesota, Michigan, Florida?
BUCHANAN: I think that ad will have impact certainly in West Virginia and Kentucky and central Pennsylvania and other folks. Some people will say, "Aw, he's just playing the patriotism card. This is ridiculous." They'll agree with [Sen.] Chuck Hagel [R-NE], who says, "Cut this stuff out."
But I think Barack's staff -- whoever told him to skip this thing really made a blunder, because he dealt cards to the folks who are playing exactly this card because it is just about Barack's most vulnerable -- the sense that, you know, Barack is not one of us. He's just not a normal guy who would go see the wounded troops, and not be up there --
SCARBOROUGH: Yeah.
BUCHANAN: -- hotdogging it in Berlin.
SCARBOROUGH: And again, as the McCain campaign's saying, won't see the troops because -- and this is what the Pentagon said: We'll let him go see the troops, he just can't take cameras with him to film it.

















This is simply a bad post by MM.
Buchanan was talking about Obama's visit in Germany. Obama did not visit the troops there. Who Obama saw in Iraq was not the issue.
Pretty lame, MM, IMHO. Pretty lame.
So, Shoes, a regular guy would go see troops in Germany, but only some kind of weirdo would go visit the troops in Iraq? Do you ever get tired of failing?
A very weak post, IMO, by Shoes. Meaning far above average for Shoes, as there was at least an attempt to bust MMFA on a technicality, as opposed to the usual simply not understanding the item at all.
Hey Shoes,
What is it about McBush that makes you want to serve him?
This is simply a bad post by MM.
Buchanan was talking about Obama's visit in Germany. Obama did not visit the troops there. Who Obama saw in Iraq was not the issue.
Pretty lame, MM, IMHO. Pretty lame.
This is simply another of a seemingly endless string of bad posts by Shoes.
Once again, Shoes homes in on the most insignificant minutia in the story in a feeble attampt to smear MMFA. And as usual, she fails miserably.
Pretty lame, Shoes, IMHO. Pretty lame.
So, you're lying on this thread too, trying to catch the people who don't read the posting by Media Matters, but only read the headlines and the comments?
Here's what Buchanan said. "He's just not a normal guy who would go see the wounded troops."
He didn't say anything that would limit his description of Obama visiting the wounded troops to the Germany leg of the trip.
Shoe did this on another thread.
I just don't understand how they think this is going to be a winning strategy, claiming that Obama is an elite. He was raised by a single mom and he's black.
He got where he is today by being a hard worker with a lot of skills. He wasn't my first choice, but he's head and shoulders above the guy who got into the Naval Academy because his Dad and Granddad were Navy Admirals, graduated almost last in his class, cheated on his first wife with multiple women until he found one who could really further his career and enrich his pocketbook, was a maverick in his own party until he needed to be a full-blown member so he flip-flopped on a bunch of issues.
The fools who think they've pulled the wool over the voters' eyes are only fooling themselves.
The fools who think they've pulled the wool over the voters' eyes are only fooling themselves.
And they've also fooled people like Shoes....
Pat Buchanan: "... you know, Barack is not one of us."
Of course not. Barack Obama is decent and honorable, unlike Pat Buchanan and Joe "Dead Intern" Scarborough......
Buchanan: "...the sense that, you know, Barack is not one of us."
A racist?
Hey Patty Patty Buke Buke,
How many wounded soldiers have you visited at hospitals? I'm willing to bet, zero... Obama has done it, and I'm sure he will do it again. And as I keep repeating today, if he had gone to that hospital in Germany, you'd be talking about how BAD he is for doing it, and using the troops as a cheap campaign ploy.
I'd say Obama would be MORE normal if he didn't go and visit the troops. How normal is it for any one of us to do so? The only troops I've visited are the old ones in the VA home that my grandfather is in. And again, I'm sure you haven't seen any up close and personal.
Hard to believe that Sen. McCain would go down this level,
Absolute filth.
It is sad when a man who served with such honor, absolutely disgraces himself.
That's possible,
Perhaps Grampy is being spoon fed this crap. But he's still responsible.
If he's too damn old to take personal responsibility, be oughta pack it in, get a good pair of undies, watch Bill O'Dork, and take a powder.
Perhaps Grampy is being spoon fed this crap. But he's still responsible.
You bet. It's his voice that says "I approved this message." If you never saw it, Grampy, DON'T APPROVE IT!
I think it is high time Senator Obama run ads highlighting the true McCain. These idiotic and unpatriotic accusations cannot be left unanswered.
You can never assume that all the consumers of these attacks are intelligent. In fact, I think McCain is banking on the stupidity of enough Americans to believe his lies.
John Kerry won all three debates...
He kicked Bush's butt all over the map.
He also won Ohio by 8.4 percentage points according to exit polls.
But he's not sitting in the White House. Be careful who is counting the votes.
Let's see. What do the veterans think? After all their opinion is more important than these tired old lackeys, isn't it ?
Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America - John McCain rating: D; versus Obama's B+ http://www.iava.org/full-ratings-list
Disabled American Veterans - John McCain rating: 20%; Obama's rating: 80%
http://capwiz.com/dav/scorecard.xc
Vietnam Veterans of America - John McCain rating: 15 votes against/ 9 votes for; Versus Obama's rating: 1 vote against/13 votes for veterans. http://capwiz.com/vva/e4/cinfo/?id=15730...
McCain's record is disgraceful,especially for a veteran. His recent ad, exploiting the serviceman/woman is beneath comtempt. Although I did not serve in combat, I am a veteran. How this guy can abandon his brethern on the Senate floor speaks volumes to who the real John McCain is. Actions speak louder than words.
Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. - Samuel JohnsonLove the Hot Dog Statement,
Did you know before Barack spoke in Germany a very popular Band played a Concert. That the campaign served free Brat's and Beer to anyone who came to the event.
And what does Imus have to do with this? Joe Scarborough knows nothing of what he speaks. Pat Buchanan does.
You folks are drinking the Obama Kool Aid. He will not win. Take my word on that.
Did you know before Barack spoke in Germany a very popular Band played a Concert.
Naturally they're going to get a decent band to open. For a crowd of a couple hundred thousand, you're not going to have your kids garage band open, anymore than your Uncle who sings Karaoke at the bowling alley on Saturday night is going to sing the national anthem at the world series.
And if you really believe that the Obama campaign bought beers and brats for 200,000 people, you may have a Freerepublic Gold account.
Thanks ... but nobody ordered any lame right-wing talking points around here.. :)
"You folks are drinking the Obama Kool Aid. He will not win. Take my word on that." - BCVB1949A
Hey, good enough for me. I mean why WOULDN'T I take the word of an anonymous right wing poster. The jumbled letters and numbers that make up your handle just ooze of integrity.
They oozw of something, anyway.
That should read:
I mean why WOULDN'T I take the word of an uninformed anonymous right wing poster.
What a pack of liars.
They had music to entertain the people who got there early. It was going to be a higly attended event, and at those events, to keep the crowds happy, you have entertainment.
There were food vendors there. There was no free food or beer. To keep crowds happy, you provide entertainment, portapotties and food and drink! That doesn't mean the food and drink are free.
It's a sorry day in America when the righties know that the only way they can possibly win is to tell one outrageous lie after another. It's good that they've kept doing it this election cycle rather than stopping it when it has been demonstrated to be a failing strategy. They snowed the voters for two elections, but now they're losing voters. I really hope they keep it up for another couple of election cycles, and prove all the current crop of Republicans to be losers. Maybe then honest conservative Republicans can take over the party from the creeps in power currently.
BB - you're so right.
Let me also add this: if you looked at any of the television footage of Obama's speech in Berlin, you saw tons of people holding banners and waving U.S. flags.
What concert-goers wave American flags at a concert? Not any that I've been to, both here in the U.S., and other countries I've visited and went to concerts in.
Nah...they weren't there to see Obama - they came for the band! <sarcasm/>
WTF ever, righties. Keep it up. You're helping to ensure an Obama victory in November - and that's about as patriotic as you folks on the right can get right now.
I listened to the clip, and to me it seems like a wash. Buchanan isn't being very clear that he understands Obama visited wounded troops in Iraq but not in Germany, but he also is something less than crystal clear that he understands Obama did visit some troops. He started the interview very positive to Obama, then ended it very negative ... kind of. This was just a wishy-washy slow Monday morning piece, and nit-picking it apart is akin to what Hannity is doing to Obama.
Buchanan is a self-styled paleocon GOPer, meaning his positions are easier to understand and far more honest than the neocon Bush apologist war mongering election stealing SOBs who have been supporting the current criminal (IMO) administration.
In my book, Buchanan makes sense some of the time and I'm not going to pile on to this gaffe as if its on the Weiner-scale.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=27696
I see the media's accepted white racist is at it again. One of you conservative posters want to tell me how much valuable information he adds to political punditry?!?
He's out there with Reverend Wright. He doesn't like the flag pin. His missus is not all that proud of America.
Funny, I could of sworn Buchanan was the one promoting white people to procreate more to keep up with growing minorities in preparation for his race war. And why is Reverend Wright's name always on his tongue when he himself is no friend to America? He only befriends white America. Yet his brand of racism is tolerated by the media. He calls Obama "exotic" but who cares, just Pat being Pat right? As soon as a prominent African-American says something out of line, their labeled militant. Hypocrites.