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Rather than acknowledge flaws in Obama column, Wash. Post's Milbank mocked critics in online chat as "whiners"

August 01, 2008 7:14 pm ET

SUMMARY: In an online discussion, Dana Milbank dismissed participants' criticisms of his July 30 column -- a "sketch" of Sen. Barack Obama's "premature presidency" -- as "whines." Milbank began the discussion by acknowledging that "some of you have some thoughts you'd like to share about yesterday's Sketch on the premature presidency of Barack Obama," and before taking questions, wrote: "I've decided to approach today's chat as a wine writer would. ... Today, I am inaugurating the Whine Enthusiast, in which I will rate your whines."

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In a July 31 washingtonpost.com online discussion, Dana Milbank dismissed participants' criticisms of his July 30 column -- a "sketch" of Sen. Barack Obama's "premature presidency" -- as "whines." Indeed, Milbank began the discussion by acknowledging that "some of you have some thoughts you'd like to share about yesterday's Sketch on the premature presidency of Barack Obama," and before taking questions, wrote: "I've decided to approach today's chat as a wine writer would. ... Today, I am inaugurating the Whine Enthusiast, in which I will rate your whines."

The Washington Post itself was not quite as dismissive, publishing a correction to one falsehood (in a column rife with misleadingly cropped quotes, false insinuations, and negligent reporting, as Media Matters for America noted). Milbank falsely asserted that Obama "g[a]ve British Prime Minister Gordon Brown some management advice over the weekend." The Post ran the following correction: "This column incorrectly said that Sen. Barack Obama shared his views on how to avoid micromanagement with British Prime Minister Gordon Brown last Saturday. Obama shared those views with British opposition leader David Cameron."

Referring to a July 29 meeting Obama had with members of the House of Representatives, Milbank wrote in his column: "Inside, according to a witness, he told the House members, 'This is the moment ... that the world is waiting for,' adding: 'I have become a symbol of the possibility of America returning to our best traditions.' " Milbank cited the quote in support of his thesis that Obama was becoming a "presumptuous nominee" and as evidence that Obama's "own hubris" may be his "biggest challenger." Several participants in the online discussion, apparently in reference to this quote, accused Milbank of "misquot[ing]" Obama, "omit[ting] the full context of his quote," and "intentionally butcher[ing] Barack Obama's words to sell papers."

Post staff writer Jonathan Weisman reported the quote in a blog post on the evening of July 29 and, like Milbank, said the originally reported quote "suggest[ed] that [Obama] was beginning to believe his own hype." Weisman updated the post on the morning of July 30, reporting that "House leadership aides pushed back against interpretations of this comment as self-aggrandizing, saying that ... [Obama] was actually trying to deflect attention from himself." If the leadership aides' reported version is accurate, the meeting with House Democrats would be far from the first time that Obama has expressed the view that the enthusiasm he generates "is not about" him, as Media Matters has noted.

In his column, Milbank gave no indication that he had contacted the Obama campaign for a response or that he had attempted to verify the accuracy of the quote in any way. But rather than acknowledge in the chat that he had neglected to do this basic reporting, Milbank attributed challenges to the version of the quote originally reported by the Post to "House Democratic aides['] [getting] up Thursday morning and decid[ing] that the quotes looked bad."

During the discussion, a reader from Pasadena, California, asked Milbank: "I do wonder whether or not echoing a Rovian talking point, complete with misquote, is really your best starting point." Milbank responded:

Under challenge is a quote in the story, and in an earlier post on the washingtonpost.com blog, The Trail, by my colleague Jonathan Weisman. We cite a witness to Obama's private meeting with House Democrats telling us that Obama said "this is the moment ... that the world is waiting for" and "I have become a symbol of the possibility of America returning to our best traditions."

House Democratic aides got up Thursday morning and decided that the quotes looked bad. While not challenging the quotations themselves, they said that the quotes were out of context. This is interesting, because our source who was among the people complaining about the quotes yesterday sent us the quotes in writing in an email Wednesday night.

Evidently no recording was made, so we'll probably never know the exact wording.

Milbank's assertion that Democratic aides were "not challenging the quotations themselves" presumes that the quote can be accurate even if Milbank omitted surrounding words that refute the interpretation he ascribed to the quote. But the very context that Milbank reportedly left out belies that presumption. Weisman's update to his blog post quoted a leadership aide saying that Obama actually said: "It has become increasingly clear in my travel, the campaign -- that the crowds, the enthusiasm, 200,000 people in Berlin, is not about me at all. It's about America. I have just become a symbol." By failing to note the context in which leadership aides reportedly said Obama was speaking -- "the enthusiasm ... is not about me at all' -- Milbank cited a comment that means nearly the opposite of the interpretation Milbank gave it, if the leadership aides' version is accurate.

Moreover, in a July 30 blog post, Atlantic associate editor Marc Ambinder reported that the Obama campaign offered the quote in what they said was its full context:

I asked the Obama campaign about the quote, and they provided some context that makes this particular utterance more digestible.

"It has become increasingly clear in my travel, the campaign, that the crowds, the enthusiasm, 200,000 people in Berlin, is not about me at all. It's about America. I have just become a symbol..." Obama said, according to the campaign.

In responding to another reader, Milbank wrote: "It should be noted, if it hasn't already, that nobody is questioning the accuracy of the Obama quotes, only the context." Again, it was Milbank's omission of the context that undermined its accuracy. As blogger Steve Benen wrote in a July 30 post at The Carpetbagger Report:

A Democratic leadership aide -- who, unlike the media, was in the room during Obama's remarks -- has been emailing reporters this morning:

"His entire point of that riff was that the campaign IS NOT about him. The Post left out the important first half of the sentence, which was something along the lines of: 'It has become increasingly clear in my travel, the campaign, that the crowds, the enthusiasm, 200,000 people in Berlin, is not about me at all. It's about America. I have just become a symbol...."

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    • Author by cArn (August 01, 2008 7:40 pm ET)
         
      Labeling people as whiners for being unhappy with your Obama column is immature, Milbank. Rather than engaging their legitimate criticisms with valid arguments, you simply dismiss them as the obnoxious complaints of overly-sensitive, partisan Obama-tards.
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    • Author by pete592 (August 01, 2008 7:43 pm ET)
         
      I wonder how this will affect Milbank's "friendship" with Countdown, if at all.
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      • Author by carlileb5935 (August 01, 2008 7:50 pm ET)
           

        What about worst person in the world...?

        No, Olbermann will just chum around with him even more. 

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    • Author by 1st Republic 14th Star (August 01, 2008 7:45 pm ET)
         

      "Today, I am inaugurating the Whine Enthusiast, in which I will rate your whines."

      Well, today I am inaugurating the Lying Bastard Enthusiast, in which I will rate YOUR lies.

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    • Author by carlileb5935 (August 01, 2008 7:47 pm ET)
         

      Just keep on his ass, MMFA. Constantly now.

      What a jerk. And a real wit, too. 

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      • Author by DAWUSS (August 01, 2008 7:51 pm ET)
           

        ... how many people do they have to monitor 24/7 now? :P

         

         

        And yeah, I do wonder what this'll do with his periodic drop-ins on Countdown

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    • Author by roundhouse (August 01, 2008 7:56 pm ET)
         
      Sarah Robinson has as good a response as I've read to these type of character attacks. True, she is talking about the latest McCain ad, but the principle is consistent.

      "This new ad is aimed at undercutting Obama's biggest political asset -- his ability to speak in prophetic language that moves people to re-connect with their values and imagine a new kind of future based upon them. I've written before about the essential role this kind of visionary language plays in creating the cultural conditions that can open the way to transformational change. All of our greatest presidents have sung to us in similar chords and tropes when they needed to lead the country through our times of greatest danger. They apprehended that the first job of a crisis-era leader is to unify the nation by reminding us of our strengths, calming our fears, and keeping us focused on our common destiny."
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      • Author by clams casino (August 01, 2008 8:12 pm ET)
           

        The McCain campaign shows once again just how utterly clueless (not to mention craven*) they are with today's latest attack ad. They singled out Obama's "We are the ones we've been waiting for," quote for mockery, seemingly oblivious to the fact that he was referencing the title of Alice Walker's best-selling book of the same name. This may the ne plus ultra of Rove's attack-their-strengths strategy. I mean, they're basically attacking Obama for being an inspiring orator! It's insane.

         

        *Do they save their most childish and mean-spirited attack ads for release on Fridays in order to avoid having to account for them in the press? 

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    • Author by clams casino (August 01, 2008 8:01 pm ET)
         
      Boy, this "Whine Defense" is really catching on. Tommy and Jeter may have started a national trend. Whenever faced with cold hard facts that contradict your baseless claims, just accuse everyone of whining. Works every time.
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    • Author by foghornleghorn (August 01, 2008 8:01 pm ET)
         

      Or, as applied to Bush:

      They apprehended that the first job of a crisis-era leader is to divide the nation by reminding us of our enemies, enhancing our fears, and keeping us distracted from our common destiny."

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    • Author by mefirst (August 01, 2008 8:09 pm ET)
         
      how can even milbank portray the quote as accurate?  look what he wrote:  "this is the moment...that the world is waiting for".  uh, what goes in the middle there?   something left out.
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    • Author by Governor (August 01, 2008 8:20 pm ET)
         

      Must be nice to be so high above scrutiny.

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    • Author by JLyons (August 01, 2008 11:26 pm ET)
         
      I do not really understand Milbanks garbage that he is pulling.  He is very disapointing.
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    • Author by Whispers (August 02, 2008 12:05 pm ET)
         
      It really would be refreshing to see any media figure accept criticism as valid.  Ever.
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      • Author by mary59 (August 02, 2008 12:19 pm ET)
           
        It surely would.   Periodically the press has an orgy of self introspection and pronounces itself blameless.  All on camera, with the usual people doing all the talking.  The internet tubes bother them occasionally (like now)
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    • Author by rjwaldmann (August 02, 2008 12:27 pm ET)
         

      This is astonishing.  Milbank claims that no one is challenging the quotation.  However, the quote is contested.   Based on a single anonymous source (that is bad journalism) Milbank claimed that Obama said "I have become a symbol ..."  that quotation is challenged by people who claim that Obama actually said "I have just become a symbol...".  Removal of the word "just" without a ellipses is not removal of context. This is what a quotation which is not challenged except for alleged removal of context would look like "I have ... become a symbol... "

      If it occured it would be an innnaccurate quotation.   Since there is no recording of the conversation we can't tell who misquoted Obama, but we can tell without any doubt at all that the quote was challenge.  Thus we know that, on an elementary matter of uncontested fact, Milbank wrote an undeniable falsehood in the online chat. 

      Only someone who is incapable of understanding the meaning of the words "challenging" and "quote" could have honestly written what Milbank wrote.  He is not a complete idiot.  He has chosen to lie to the readers of the Washington Post online chat.

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    • Author by patachon (August 02, 2008 12:42 pm ET)
         
      Wow, we're arguing about this while McCain still can't figure out that Checkoslovakia no longer exists or what the difference is between Sunni and Shiite in Iraq?
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    • Author by cavjam (August 02, 2008 12:59 pm ET)
         
      Let's not be too hard on Milbank. After all, he's a part of America's aristocracy and as such cannot be expected to either work too hard, care about such trivialities as truth, or doff his veneer of smugness. When uppity helots start thinking they know more than he, no other attitude than dismissiveness is possible in his mind. Top-down media are in the same position as 20th century baronies - fast on their way to irrelevance. I pity the fool on the Hill.
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    • Author by postroad8130 (August 02, 2008 2:52 pm ET)
         
      Dana, a guy I had for some time respected, sounds a bit like me in my marriage: I would screw up but instead of admitting to it and trying to change things, would spend my time defending my dumb actions and being unable to own up to having screwed up. Be a friggin man and tell us you messed up!
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    • Author by peebs755 (August 02, 2008 4:13 pm ET)
         
      Get used to these tactics. Its just going to get worse as the righties get more desperate.
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    • Author by barica (August 02, 2008 5:04 pm ET)
         
      This whole business of Obama often saying to the effect that the enthusiasm over his campaign is NOT about him. That is incredibly disingenuous and a fabulous example of political smoke blowing. Of course it's about him and he knows it and is exploiting it every day of his campaign and anyone who is not star struck by him knows it. Apparently Media Matters is star struck and takes every opportunity to critique even the smallest inference of criticism of Obama in the media. Media Matters is sounding more and more like an oblivious highschool girl with a crush on a narcissitic BMOC. By the way I'm a staunch Democrat and will probably hold my nose and vote for Obama.  
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      • Author by BottleBlonde (August 02, 2008 6:11 pm ET)
           

        I disagree.

        Obama is a charismatic speaker. There's no doubt about that.

        However, a great deal of his popularity is due to the "anyone but Bush (or his clone McCain)". A great deal of his popularity is due to his behavior, but anyone who exhibited his behavior would be similarly revered!

        I don't believe that Obama is out of line for saying what he's been saying. He wasn't my first or second choice in the Democratic primary. But the drive to elect him is about a lot more than Obama.

        All presidential candidates are full of themselves - one can't try to run for that office and not be conceited! That doesn't mean that Obama's not right about one of the reasons he gets a lot of attention.

        In addition, here's a clue. Saying "I'm a Democrat, but...." doesn't gain you any credibility here. In fact, based on previous experience, it loses you credibility. Media Matters covers some big, obvious problems with media reports that forward the conservative agenda and then they cover smaller stories that also further the conservative agenda. Why do you have a problem with they doing that?

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      • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (August 03, 2008 2:03 am ET)
           

        I'm a staunch Democrat

        Really? Prove it. A friend once made a great comment:

        "Don't tell me you're a Christian, let me figure it out."

        I read your post, and it's clear you couldn't make anyone figure out you're a Democrat, staunch or otherwise.

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    • Author by tangaroa (August 02, 2008 10:00 pm ET)
         
      Dana, you took a fragment of a quote, ran with it without checking, and wrote a factually incorrect and , consequently, misleading story.  What you're supposed to do now, if you want to look like a responsible adult, is to admit your mistake.  Apologizing to Obama, who was harmed by your mistake, might also be an adult action to take.  Complaining because people are less than thrilled by your cub-reporter-level error is not the way to go.  I realize that the world is full of people who can never admit when they are wrong, but I never thought you were one of them.  I am very disappointed. 
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    • Author by cArn (August 02, 2008 10:05 pm ET)
         

      By the way I'm a staunch Democrat and will probably hold my nose and vote for Obama. 

      LOL. I guess I'm supposed to agree with the rest of your comments because of this.

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