Media report GOP attacks on Obama's energy comments without noting that EPA, McCain surrogates agree with Obama
SUMMARY: The New York Times and The Washington Times uncritically reported that the McCain campaign "ridiculed" Sen. Barack Obama for encouraging people to properly inflate their tires to increase fuel efficiency without noting that the practice has been to shown to reduce fuel consumption or that two Republican governors and McCain surrogates have referred to the fuel economy benefits of properly inflated tires.
The New York Times and The Washington Times uncritically reported that Sen. John McCain's campaign "ridiculed" Sen. Barack Obama for encouraging people to properly inflate their tires without noting that the practice has been to shown to reduce fuel consumption or that McCain surrogates Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R-CA) and Gov. Charlie Crist (R-FL) have referred to the fuel economy benefits of properly inflated tires. Rather than reporting that proper tire inflation does indeed reduce fuel consumption, the media outlets referred only to Obama's remarks and the McCain campaign's "ridicul[ing]" of Obama's remarks. As Media Matters for America has documented, the Department of Energy and the Environmental Protection Agency have cited the fuel advantages of proper tire inflation.
In an August 5 New York Times article, reporter Larry Rohter wrote: "The McCain campaign distributed tire pressure gauges outside the event here in response to Mr. Obama's statement last week that Americans could reduce gasoline use substantially if they kept car tires at optimum pressure."
Similarly, Andrea Billups and Stephen Dinan reported in an August 5 Washington Times article: "Republicans, meanwhile, ridiculed Mr. Obama for suggesting last week that motorists keep their tires inflated as a way to reduce energy use."
But both articles failed to note that the Department of Energy and the Environmental Protection Agency have cited the advantages of proper tire inflation, as Media Matters documented. Indeed, fueleconomy.gov, a website maintained jointly by the EPA and DOE, states: "You can improve your gas mileage by around 3.3 percent by keeping your tires inflated to the proper pressure. Under-inflated tires can lower gas mileage by 0.4 percent for every 1 psi drop in pressure of all four tires." It further calculated a fuel economy benefit of 3 percent, or a savings of up to 12 cents per gallon, with properly inflated tires.
In contrast with The Washington Times and The New York Times, Michael McAuliff, in an August 1 post on the New York Daily News' Mouth of the Potomac blog, headlined "Inflated Tires: Hot Air?" wrote: "But if you've got under-inflated tires, said Dan Zielinski, of the Rubber Manufacturing Association, who pointed us to data from NHTSA and California's AAA and federal data, you could save yourself about $200 by pumping up your wheels. Is that a bad idea? And if everyone did it, that'd be 2.8 billion gallons of gas. Nothing to sneeze at. And it's free."
Moreover, Schwarzenegger and Crist, supporters of presumptive Republican presidential candidate John McCain, reportedly encouraged citizens to properly inflate their tires and tune up their engines. The Los Angeles Times reported on June 26: "Both governors appealed to those with the real power to make change -- average citizens -- to drive slower, keep engines tuned and tires properly inflated, to buy hybrids and lower overall consumption."
From the August 5 New York Times article:
Mr. McCain and his campaign have been increasingly tweaking Mr. Obama and his energy policy. The McCain campaign distributed tire pressure gauges outside the event here in response to Mr. Obama's statement last week that Americans could reduce gasoline use substantially if they kept car tires at optimum pressure. Mr. McCain has called Mr. Obama "Dr. No" and said that his energy policy could be reduced to the phrase "just say no" to proposals to increase energy production.
From the August 5 Washington Times article:
Republicans, meanwhile, ridiculed Mr. Obama for suggesting last week that motorists keep their tires inflated as a way to reduce energy use. Mr. McCain challenged Democrats to call Congress back into session to boost energy production.















As the energy crisis becomes more and more of a real problem, and Americans truly become attuned to this issue, "absurd" ideas like maintaining a proper tire pressure will be more and more impossible to mock.
But, for now, game on, I suppose. Who the mockery benefits is beyond me.
Yeah. Plus, Republican obstructionism when the congress tried unsuccessfully last week to pass a bill that would've helped to get a handle on the rampant oil speculation that escalated price at the pump over the last 6-8 months. Surprisingly, 61 reps voted "yea", while 135 rep(tiles) voted "nay": we need to work on getting more dems in congress to fix the problem of speculation-induced gas price increases.
This week the hard-core congressional friends-of-BigOil are grand-standing (drill here - drill now is a Gingrich slogan), with the help of "opinion-advocacy" radio, to promote drilling programs that won't work.
Find out how YOUR rep voted here:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h2008-540
IMO, proposed drilling programs won't produce within the short-term, meaning the proposed wells can't remedy the current misery-at-the-pump. Also, if off-shore wells eventually do come in, what is to stop BigOil from selling that oil to China? McSame? Give me a break...
Have you ever been to the oil patch? (I have). In Texas, the oil wells are drying up, while the formerly-sweet-water aquifers above are polluted with brine from careless oil-field operations from the 1930s through the 1970s. The place has become more of a wasteland than before oil was discovered there. This is a problem throughout the Permian Basin. Elsewhere in North America, high sulfur concentrations are the problem with the oil. Google "high sulfur content" and "acid rain", not just for the "oil patch", but for "oil shale" too. You can't solve the problem of acid rain without limiting sulfur ... nitric acid is an inevitable byproduct of combustion, but sulfuric acid need not be. You'll find that your advocation of "drill here, drill now" is a total abdication of environmental protections against acid rain that in the past has impacted regions beyond US borders. Get back to me on that with what you find, won't you?
Frankly, I think you understand these distinctions, and you are taking a cheap shot in your reply to me, probably because you also recognize that the proposed drilling programs won't address our energy problems in the short term, but you wish to use this talking point of Newt's to spin the runup to the 2008 Presidential election your way.
As far as the actual cause of the current energy crisis, I blame the Gingrich republicans of the 90's congresses, and the republican congresses of the 2000s, who all, upon obtaining power, failed to lead the US into a future where our energy needs would have been met. They were more worried about a BJ.
And if everyone did it, that'd be 2.8 billion gallons of gas.
Wow. Talk about a junk data statement if I've ever heard one. This 2.8B gallon statement is assuming that all 200,000,000 cars in the United States are losing 3.3% of fuel economy from under pressured tires. This factors in that all 4 tires are underinflated by over 8psi.
However, according to a study by the National Highway Safety Traffic Administration, 27% of cars & 32% of trucks/vans/suvs have 1 under inflated tire. Also, only 8% of cars have all 4 under inflated tires.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3072627/
To actually read between the lines, and take a real data figure assuming like the NYT that all the cars had 3.3% loss if underinflated, you'd come to the conclusion that we may be wasting 0.224B barrels per year.
Talk about misinformation.
First, I never claimed that, so don't try to bait me with something I didn't say.
Second, the data cited by the NYT and used as information by MMFA is wildly incorrect, and that's all I was saying.
Of course it has the ability to reduce energy usage...but more importantly to each person, they may get a few mpg more if they properly check their tires. This is something that has been said for decades. But to advertise this as if its something that effects all 200M cars is a far stretch of the imagination and needs to be accounted for - after all, this is supposed to be a site for misinformation in the media, and clearly is just that the way MM and NYT attempted to represent this.
Of course it has the ability to reduce energy usage...but more importantly to each person, they may get a few mpg more if they properly check their tires.
So you are in agreement with Barack Obama's suggestion that individual consumers may reduce their gas costs by keeping their tires properly inflated and their cars tuned. Glad you agree...
Now, please show me where Barack Obama has ever made this fuel-saving tip the centerpiece of his energy plan.
Yes I agree. But to use it as a political ploy is ridiculous. Its been widely known for 30 years. This isn't a new piece of information out there.
I've cited it twice already in this thread.
Know what else has been "widely known" for 30 years? Soybeans. Eat any form of those 15-20 years ago? Bet not.
Wonder why they continued to grow them then...
You have literally no point here.
It's known as an "analogy". You use those a lot, in, well, science.
Point being that simply because the idea of proper tire pressure is a 30 year "old" one, it doesn't devalue its importance, as you're so obviously want to do.
Again, that argument literally has no point.
-- Of course it has the ability to reduce energy usage...This is something that has been said for decades. -- scienceguy
Correctamundo...pardon the polishing of my second language...I don't discount everything Obama says.
But back to Obama and the link provided by mmfa. Why stop with inflating your tires? Their source easily identifies $.76/gallon savings by following the simple steps for your car. Geez, makes me wonder what else I didn't know...other than mullets are no longer in style.
Obama has solved the fuel price crisis with his simple wisdom...quite impressive. It's not too late for Obama's summer's advice of staying out of the sun, wearing a hat and light colored clothing to avoid heat related health problems.
And of course he should get on the ball for this winter...don't forget your mittens, always dress in layers, and heavens to Betsy keep that hat on.
The man's intellect is really quite impressive...so quit running down the anointed one!
Obama has solved the fuel price crisis with his simple wisdom...quite impressive.
You give Obama too much credit. This is just a small step everyone can take. The centerpeice of his energy policy is to get us off fossil fuel and replace it with green energy.
The centerpeice of his energy policy is to get us off fossil fuel and replace it with green energy.
I would be all for that, if this "green" energy was actually economically viable and produced as much energy as oil for the current costs.
Its a very good thing. Only in the US, can middle class families have a nice 4bdrm home on a half acre of land, 2 kids, and 2-3 cars in the driveway.
We have this because of debt.
Only in the US, can middle class families have a nice 4bdrm home on a half acre of land, 2 kids, and 2-3 cars in the driveway. - sciguy
You are wrong. There are many countries where this happens. And they most likely have a higher quality of life.
No ,mefirst, the actual point is that it is absurd to say ,as BO did, that by inflating our tires we could save more oil than we could produce by ending the moratoriam on offshore drilling. To make that statement exposes BO's ignorance of the facts. The sophistry of his followers arguments is so very amusing to watch, as they spin and obfuscate furiously, to no avail, because he stubbornly keeps repeating the same foolish statement. Has he ,perhaps, bought into this whole Messiah thing, and now considers himself infallible? That might explain his inability to admit he was wrong about the surge. This campaign has now gotten to the theater of the absurd stage ,and I plan to survive til the election by laughing at this nonsense instead of being irritated by you looney lefties. Til next time, remember, BO=JC. Whoops, glad I previewed this, let me change that to Obama=Carter
No, the actual point is that impartial people who have all the facts available have documented that what he said was true.
And accurate.
And totally demolishes McCain's lie that it's a good idea to drill for that additional oil in the Gulf and risk the environment and use up our finite resource even faster than we already are.
And because the truth is like sunlight to you vampires, you have to fight like the devil to derail a thread with your lies.
Are you referring to the New York DAILY NEWS' quote? Because that's not a study, and it's not the New York Times.
Also, your 5 year old article says "at least" one tire is underinflated in those percentage of cars. Not just "one".
In any case, when it comes to tire inflation, yes, we are talking about BILLIONS of saved gallons of gas.
What was that about misinformation again?
And what could possibly be your point if not to devalue the necessity of proper tire inflation?
I stand corrected on the source, I saw NYT, didnt notice the NY Daily News part.
However, its quite comical to bloat your figures when you see necessary. Oil drilling, as Obama was countering, is measured in barrels, not gallons. To try and justify your stances by using a smaller measurement to get larger numbers to fool your audience is very misleading.
The fact is your "billions of gallons", is actually about 225,000 barrels per year. Slightly more than the energy deparment estimated 200,000 barrels per day for OCS drilling.Science, I am not "bloating" my figures. I am also not conflating an ENTIRE energy policy with a easy and yet significant way to save a rather large amount of gas at the pump. That's apparently your job.
Again, what is your point, if not to devalue this rather simple concept? It certainly isn't a "scientific" approach.
I am not trying to devalue it by any means, as I've already stated that checking your tire pressure is and easy and smart thing to do.
But this is not a substitute for increasing supply by saying we can conserve even more when the facts are that it would only save as much in one year as we could potentially drill in one day.
What numbers did you use to come up with this:
But this is not a substitute for increasing supply by saying we can conserve even more when the facts are that it would only save as much in one year as we could potentially drill in one day.
The IEA report claims that we will drill 2.2M bpd w/o OCS, 2.4 w/ OCS drilling. Thats 200,000bpd, 7+B bpy.
Again, if you factor in that the report cited in this MM article claims 2.8B gallons wasted, you can factor in about 20gal per barrel and be roughly 140M bpy. However, that 2.8 assumes every car at a 3.3% loss if you do the math. A more respectable 25-33% of cars would give you about 50M bpy.
The math is correct. Show me YOUR calculations. Lets see here - worst case scenario:
2.8B gal/19.6gal p bar = roughly 140M barrels
200,000bpd x 365 = 7+ M barrels
200,000 x 365= 73 million
73 million x 19.6≈ 1.4 billion
2.8 billion > 1.4 billion
I am going to say this one more time, and if you ignore it again, I have no choice but to believe you're a troll.
This is but ONE small and yet effective way to take on higher gas prices, not an entire policy.
Why do you insist on pretending it is?
Post Obama's quote.
And do your math again.
Find that exact quote, or we're done, and you're a troll.
You are now blatantly lying to make your point.
Ugh.
"Making sure your tires are properly inflated - simple thing. But we could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling - if everybody was just inflating their tires? And getting regular tune-ups? You'd actually save just as much."
I usually kept my tires inflated to 36psi. A few months ago a friend suggested I try inflating them to 40psi, which is still within the appropriate range of tire inflation, to get better gas mileage. I tried it and it worked. While I did not attempt to calculate the amount of increased fuel efficiency, I did notice a difference on a trip to a city in another state that I often took. Whereas the trip usually took almost a full tank of gas, with my tires inflated to 40psi it took about three quarters of a tank. I guess I saved about two or three gallons...less than a quarter tank. The ride is a little rougher because the tires are harder and I don't know how much fuel efficiency is produced in city driving, but the fact is that it works.
It is my understanding that Barack Obama's suggestion regarding tire inflation was in the context of what consumers could do to reduce their gas costs...not as the central point of his energy plan, as the Republicans have ridiculoulsy attempted to portray it. Perhaps the Republicans can ask Paris Hilton what she does to increase her gas mileage and put that in a commercial.
The ride is a little rougher because the tires are harder and I don't know how much fuel efficiency is produced in city driving, but the fact is that it works.
Of course it works, but there are other factors involved in the tire pressure ratings for each car. Much has to do with the weight of the car, and the amount of tire to road contact patch for safety standards and handling. Remember, you often want a wider road contact patch for wet and snowy roads to increase traction and get a better chance of dry pavement contact.
But yes, in a way, Obama did tout it as an energy plan by saying you can save as much as you could by drilling, which is false:""There are things you can do individually, though, to save energy. ... Making sure your tires are properly inflated - simple thing. But we could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling - if everybody was just inflating their tires? And getting regular tune-ups? You'd actually save just as much."
Energy estimates are in the range of 200,000bpd (7.3B bpy) for drilling for the OCS.
They do get funding for it from the fed...
From gas taxes, no doubt...which John McCain was in favor of temporarily suspending. Or was it temporary? I thought John McCain was against taxes...
I think you need a refresher course in how that works...
http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/bridge/
As for offshore drilling, not one drop of opil will produced for about seven or eight years and any reduction of fuel prices as a result thereof may take as much as 20 years.
Wrong. That is an estimate from an energy administration report in general. Oil drilling companies themselves have said we can expect to see oil in 2 years for areas that are closer in proximity to existing infrastructure (ANWR, Gulf), and up to 8 years for areas 200mi off shore with no existing infrastructure. But by all means, feel free to be misleading and use the worst case scenario...
Just an extra way for the gas station owners to increase profit...
That is a lie. One of many on this thread. Independent gas station ownership is dropping like a stone. You're ideology is blinding your viewpoint of reality.
The argument for drilling is "start now, even though the results will not appear in several years".
Why not start going green now? Why not be the world leader in green technology. How long to you think China can keep going at this pace?
All you care about is your precious standard of living. You're selfish and care nothing about our future generation.
But yes, in a way, Obama did tout it as an energy plan by saying you can save as much as you could by drilling, which is false:"
His statement true. How much oil is expected from offshore drilling?
7 months of global supply - on top of the current demand.
Right now, the excess production supply for the world is less than 5% of US daily demand.
We consume a bit less than that. We consume roughly 20M bpd, and the world total consumption is 85M bpd. However, world production is 86M bpd, leaving the excess production at 1M bpd...about 5% overhead of just US consumption.
US/World Consumption: http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/steo/pub/gifs/Fig5.gif
Production: http://www.worldoil.com/INFOCENTER/STATISTICS_DETAIL.ASP?STATFILE=_WORLDOILPRODUCTION
This 2.8B gallon statement is assuming that all 200,000,000 cars in the United States are losing 3.3% of fuel economy from under pressured tires. This factors in that all 4 tires are underinflated by over 8psi.
Where did you get this information from?
Drill here, drill now, pay less.
Increase the supply of oil, lower the demand of oil (and thus the cost at the pump). LOSD at work.
That and quit breathing down on everything oil companies do. They'd be happy to distribute and sell the newly-drilled oil.
No Obama tried to counter it to oil drilling by saying that we could inflate tires and in turn, save the same amount that we'd be drilling. Which is blatently false.
He said: ""There are things you can do individually, though, to save energy. ... Making sure your tires are properly inflated - simple thing. But we could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling - if everybody was just inflating their tires? And getting regular tune-ups? You'd actually save just as much."
When in fact the energy departments estimate is that we could be drilling roughly 200,000bpd from the OCS (7.3B bpy).
See? Again, Obama just said we could do other things too. BTW, how much of the world oil reserves is the US claiming? Wasn't it around 3%?
And why did the US oil companies increase oil exports 33% last year?
Isn't it time for you to admit it's all a stunt to allow oil companies access to as much as possible so they can sell it overseas for a profit, while what they sell will be of little consequence to the overall price of global oil?
And why did the US oil companies increase oil exports 33% last year?
The amount of oil drilled in the US peaked in the 1940's and has decreased ever since. But seeing as how the oil goes on the global market, its easy to see there are a few countries who have increased demand by very high percentages. No longer are we the only ones buying it back.
i don't think obama ever meant that it would be the solution to all our energy problems. but it's one of a hundred things anyone can do to reduce energy usage, and that will add up in the end. i've been using reduced energy bulbs for years and it's put money in my pocket. but we're subjected to all this limbaugh dittohead type smirkiness when you suggest small things that can make a difference.
Mr. McCain challenged Democrats to call Congress back into session to boost energy production.
LOL
Can't figure out why McCain would want to call Congress back into session, he's won't be there.
John McCain has missed 399 votes (63.3%) during the current Congress http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/110/senate/vote-missers/
What about Obama? How many votes has he missed? Would he also sit in the Senate Chambers to vote on this bill?
Just trying to be fair, here
So let me get this straight - we're trying to justify who's "better" because two highly paid government congressmen are missing 44% and 63% of the votes?
Actually, no I'm not. The fact is, McCain is at the top of the list for missed votes. It's a fact that you and other Conservative/Republicans don't want to talk about. Missed votes means McCain choose winning the election over showing up to vote, which makes a mockery of his urgency to act on energy and his challenge to Democrats to call Congress back into session to discuss energy.
Dawuss wanted to fair so he ask how many votes did Obama miss, which I provided.
If Obama missed 63% of the votes, you and your Republicans friends would be making a big deal out of Obama's missed votes. I can hear commercials and talk radio blowhards going on about how Obama doesn't care about the country and he just wants to win the election and on and on, yet silence when it comes to McCain missed votes.
"Congress should come back in session, and I'm willing to come off the campaign trail," McCain told reporters at the Lafayette Hill headquarters of the National Label Co.
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/20080804_McCain__Congress_should_reconvene_to_deal_with_energy.html
And to think, in early 2007, he wasn't willing to come off the campaign trail to make Iraq votes. Hmmmmmm:
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/mccains-missed-votes-on-iraq-trigger-reid-rebuke-2007-05-17.html
McCain said numerous times he'd show up for important votes. Missed every single one though. Can't be trusted to keep his word, but no surprise. He was a collaborator during Vietnam after all...
...McCain stated that he would report to congress and halt the campaign to attend a session dedicated to energy.
Now that would be a photo-op to beat all...John McCain actually voting in the Senate! I seem to recall that the GI bill wasn't important enough for McCain's return to Washingtom from a fund raising trip...but offshore drilling is?
but offshore drilling is?
90 days before an election when 75% of the US wants it...I'd say it would be a very smart move for him.
What is so "rational" about Science posting a math set with an order of magnitude error? Loonz caught the error, and no response yet from Science101.
That's a fundamental error in Science's thought process. An error in calculation like that can lead to ... errors in conclusions.
90 days before an election when 75% of the US wants it...I'd say it would be a very smart move for him
You are too dense to understand this is a desperate move by Gramps. He had nothing against Obama except that he was popular. Then he saw that 75% of Americans favor drilling and saw an opportunity.
The problem is, 75% of Americans are basing their opinion on the LIE that drilling now will lower fuel prices now. Gramps' argument is based on a lie and it is purely a political ploy aimed at the ignorant masses - you being one of them.
Actually, I just read an article today where McCain stated that he would report to congress and halt the campaign to attend a session dedicated to energy.
LOL
McCain's real purpose for 'returning' to Washington is a photo op to use in his campaign. And his only solution to the energy problem is drill offshore, drill offshore and more drilling offshore.
John McCain: "Tomorrow, I'll call for lifting the federal moratorium for states that choose to permit exploration. I think that this, and perhaps providing additional incentives for states to permit exploration off their coasts, would be very helpful in the short term in resolving our energy crisis.
FACT: EIA: The projections in the OCS (Outer Continental Shelf) access case indicate that access to the Pacific, Atlantic, and eastern Gulf regions would not have a significant impact on domestic crude oil and natural gas production or prices before 2030.
First, the government has to identify properties to be leased and hold a lease sale. Then, winning bidders need to contract with drilling rigs (all of which are booked for the next five years, according to the New York Times), drill exploratory holes and analyze core samples. And then, if oil is found, companies would have to order and put in place production equipment, build pipelines to get the oil to shore, and get various permits and environmental analyses every step of the way. http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/mccains_power_outage.html
The Straight Jacket Express can't seem to find the truth or the way to Washington.
Everyone seems to have overlooked that starting with 2008 models, all new cars must have tire pressure monitors. Tire pressure is important, both for energy conservation, and safety.
.../don
Anyone interested, that exempts science101, should check out United Nuclear's site. They're offering a hydrogen conversion package for cars and trucks. With a hydrogen producing mechanism to charge our vehicle from at home. They seem to have a nice compact hydride storage system availible.
Where are our major corporations in this technological/industrial frontier. Apparently shuffling their money into tax havens world wide. 100 billion a year. curently 1.5 Trillion in assets. Money made on americans, but entirely free of any responsibility to that population.
During an energy crisis, McCain is mocking this? Am I the only person who questions why we are not being informed of the truth of Obama's statement?Or is this just another hit the American people are supposed to take so as to not embarrass the Republican candidate?
Obama has solved the fuel price crisis with his simple wisdom...quite impressive. It's not too late for Obama's summer's advice of staying out of the sun, wearing a hat and light colored clothing to avoid heat related health problems.
Ha ha...I hope you knew you were mocking McCain when you wrote this, because it was he, not Obama, who went on national TV to advise us to wear sunscreen this summer and wear a hat:-) I guess he's "the One"?