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August 05, 2008 8:16 pm ET
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SUMMARY: Discussing the Italian government's decision to deploy soldiers on city streets to combat violent crime allegedly committed by illegal immigrants, Michael Savage said: "So they've done there what we need to do here. We need to get our troops out of Iraq and put them on the streets of America to protect us from the scourge of illegal immigrants who are running rampant across America, killing our police for sport, raping, murdering like a scythe across America while the liberal psychos are telling us they come here to work." Savage added: "[Y]ou turn on the cable news, they're covering again a missing child. Not a missing country but a missing child. ... We hear about the rape of a woman, but not about the rape of the Statue of Liberty. The Statue of Liberty is crying, she's been raped and disheveled -- raped and disheveled by illegal aliens."

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On the August 4 edition of his nationally syndicated radio program, Michael Savage declared that "the Statue of Liberty" has been "raped and disheveled by illegal aliens." Discussing the Italian government's decision to deploy soldiers on city streets to combat violent crime for which, according to The New York Times, "illegal immigrants are broadly blamed," Savage stated: "Things are so bad in Europe that the Italians have put soldiers, military on their streets. Now, you have to understand what it means by things are so bad. The illegal immigrants, mainly Muslims and Africans, are out of control." He then added: "So they've done there what we need to do here. We need to get our troops out of Iraq and put them on the streets of America to protect us from the scourge of illegal immigrants who are running rampant across America, killing our police for sport, raping, murdering like a scythe across America while the liberal psychos are telling us they come here to work." Later in the program, Savage said "[t]he local comic books that nobody buys anymore called newspapers" are ignoring what is happening in Italy, and added: "No truth, no reality, no stories -- you turn on the cable news, they're covering again a missing child. Not a missing country but a missing child. ... We hear about the rape of a woman, but not about the rape of the Statue of Liberty. The Statue of Liberty is crying, she's been raped and disheveled -- raped and disheveled by illegal aliens, and our politicians do nothing except give themselves big fat checks and big fat jobs."

As Media Matters for America has noted, Savage has previously made inflammatory remarks about immigrants. For instance, while criticizing first lady Laura Bush's June 20 World Refugee Day speech, Savage said, "We're getting refugees now who have never used a telephone, a toothbrush, or toilet paper. You're telling me they're going to assimilate? They will never assimilate. They come here and they bring their destitute ways to this country, and they never assimilate." He continued: "And then their children become gang-bangers. It is a disaster. Did you hear what I just said? A disaster."

When five San Francisco students held a hunger strike in July 2007 in support of the DREAM Act -- a bill that would have provided a pathway to citizenship and other benefits for certain illegal immigrants who entered the United States before the age of 16 -- Savage said: "I would say, let them fast until they starve to death, then that solves the problem. Because then we won't have a problem about giving them green cards because they're illegal aliens; they don't belong here to begin with." In April 2006, Savage stated, "If you take to the streets with the vermin who are trying to dictate to us how we should run America, even though they're not even entitled to vote or be here, you're going to be thrown out of office. The people will throw you out of office. There are not enough of them to re-elect you. You will be out of a job. You will not have a living. You will be hunting for a job. Maybe, you'll be picking the vegetables." After Media Matters highlighted his comments, Savage claimed it was not illegal immigrants he was describing as "vermin" but, rather, "the leadership behind" the illegal immigrants, whom Savage described as "the communist Marxist bloc of International ANSWER" (Act Now to Stop War and End Racism).

Talk Radio Network, which syndicates Savage's show, claims that Savage is heard on more than 350 radio stations. The Savage Nation reaches at least 8.25 million listeners each week, according to Talkers Magazine, making it one of the most listened-to talk radio shows in the nation, behind only The Rush Limbaugh Show and The Sean Hannity Show.

From the August 4 edition of Talk Radio Network's The Savage Nation:

SAVAGE: Things are so bad in Europe that the Italians have put soldiers, military on their streets. Now, you have to understand what it means by "things are so bad." The illegal immigrants, mainly Muslims and Africans, are out of control. So they've done there what we need to do here. We need to get our troops out of Iraq and put them on the streets of America to protect us from the scourge of illegal immigrants who are running rampant across America, killing our police for sport, raping, murdering like a scythe across America while the liberal psychos are telling us they all come here to work.

The story says, "Soldiers on Italian streets -- hundreds of soldiers have fanned across Italy to help police fight crime. The soldiers also guard detention centers, processing illegal immigrants blamed by the government for much of Italy's crime. But a group of immigrants used the deployment as an opportunity to protest and draw attention to their conditions and delays in asylum requests." They got the racket worked out pretty good, huh? First you break into a country, then you say "drop dead" if you don't give me citizenship. And then they spit in your face, then they beat up your police, and the police run away.

That's the country of Italy, the once-proud nation of Italy, the former Roman empire reduced to hiding behind the shuttered doors. And you're telling me you're going to Tuscany -- yeah, drink your chianti, eat your mortadella, Schmi -- Guido. Go eat your mortadella, Guido, tell me how wonderful Tuscany is. I hear these reports from people who come back. "Oh, I went to Tuscany, oh, I love Tuscany." You sat there like a fat drunk, you didn't know what was going on around you there. Go buy yourself a condo in Tuscany. You have no idea what's going on because like in this country, you don't want to know what's going on, you've got your head in the sand. When guys like me, the Paul Reveres of our time, have to take the whole burden on our own back. Go ahead, go stuff your face with mortadella and drink your chianti and think the world is fine because you become an old drunk in an undershirt -- I'd like to say to them.

Why is it that the Italians called out the military? Why can't we call out the military and put 'em on the border with Mexico? Why can't we send the military into San Francisco to take control of the city before other innocent civilians are killed? Uh huh, why? You tell me why. You tell me why. San Jose, Dave, you're on The Savage Nation, go ahead, please, what's on your mind?

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SAVAGE: So there it is, Italy, they're calling out the military, they called them out already in the streets, but you didn't read that yet, huh? Didn't make it to your local comic book? The local comic books that nobody buys anymore called newspapers because they provide you nothing but trash, day and night? No truth, no reality, no stories -- you turn on the cable news, they're covering again a missing child. Not a missing country but a missing child, every day about a missing child but not a missing country, every day about a missing child but no missing country.

Every -- about the rape of a woman, but not about the rape of the Statue of Liberty. The Statue of Liberty is crying, she's been raped and disheveled -- raped and disheveled by illegal aliens, and our politicians do nothing except give themselves big fat checks and big fat jobs. The Statue of Liberty is disheveled and raped and she's crying, and she needs to be helped, but you turn on the cable news networks -- missing children, rape, rape, missing children, missing children, rape, rape, missing children, rape, missing children, missing children, rape.

How about missing country and the rape of a nation? Why don't they cover the real story? Why don't they tell the rest of us to get ready for what's coming in this country? That we have to protect ourselves because everybody else is ducking and hiding? They're hiding under their desks in Washington, they're hiding under their desks in the state capitals, they're hiding under their desks in the city capitals. And we have to fend for ourself because the government is not protecting us, don't you get it?

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    • Author by DAWUSS (August 05, 2008 8:21 pm ET)
         
      Why is it that the second I quit listening to him (in exchange for TRMS) he upps his ante?
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    • Author by snoopy (August 05, 2008 8:36 pm ET)
         
      Know what's really funny about Savage's idea? McCain suggested a few days ago that it would be a good idea to send the military into the inner cities and establish combat zones to control crime. Savage just proved to me he's onboard with McCain's police state.
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      • Author by DAWUSS (August 05, 2008 8:50 pm ET)
           

        But wasn't it Pelosi and Obama and Media Matters and the Council on American-Islamic Relations who are Nazis, communists, and homosexual fascists, according to Savage?

         

        ... amazing what happens when the people you believed for so long were what they criticized.

         

        But there are still some conservative principles that I still believe in (FairTax, domestic drilling, anti-abortion [victory in the WOT would be more of an American position than a conservative one])

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        • Author by megabot (August 05, 2008 8:56 pm ET)
             

          Yeah, according to Savage, every liberal in America is a true Nazi. The Germans during WW2 were not Nazis - "they were just proud patriots trying to save their country from [trademark Savage scream] THOSE FILTHY COMMUNISTS AND THOSE FILTHY CHRIST-KILLERS!!!"

          And how anyone equipped with a spine could defend Savage - trust me, they'll come - is just beyond me. They claim its "freedom of speech", but are the first to demand censorship when a liberal radio host says something edgy.

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          • Author by DAWUSS (August 05, 2008 9:08 pm ET)
               

            Or a lawsuit and institutional attacks when Savage is called out (ie, Media Matters [illegal corporation, anti-family, homosexual Nazis {I think they have page after page dedicated to Savage's attacks on MMFA}]).

             

            And Rush Limbaugh just reads his Republican talking points. Sean Hannity is Rush Limbaugh later in the afternoon (with a lot more friends and public appearances). And O'Reilly is in between Rush and Savage IMO.

             

            See, I'm all alone on the political spectrum


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            • Author by wzwriter (August 06, 2008 10:30 am ET)
                 

              See, I'm all alone on the political spectrum

              Yup. No one wants to be associated with you Dawuss.

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          • Author by wzwriter (August 06, 2008 8:35 am ET)
               

            And how anyone equipped with a spine could defend Savage - trust me, they'll come - is just beyond me.

            The Weiner Defenders may have spines, but they don't have fully-functioning brains.

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          • Author by speedracer20NJ3576 (August 07, 2008 10:12 am ET)
               
            Savage is full of more baloney than all the supermarkets and delicatessens in America!
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          • Author by mike.cipolla5145 (August 07, 2008 11:25 am ET)
               
            He didn't say that. He's pro Israel. The son of Russian Jew immigrants. Why are you mis-quoting him?
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        • Author by DeminTX (August 05, 2008 9:00 pm ET)
             
          I don't know of anybody that is pro-abortion; unless it's for two ultra right-wingers trying to conceive (that's a joke!).  I believe the majority of this country is pro-choice, but feel abortion should be rare, but legal. 
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          • Author by Science101 (August 05, 2008 10:03 pm ET)
               
            I would agree with you.  Under certain circumstances like rape, in which the woman did not actually have a choice in the matter of sexual relations.  Other than that, the woman made a dumbfounded choice, and I believe she should have to live with that, not sacrifice a child because the mother was a dumb****.
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            • Author by doggone-ga (August 05, 2008 10:11 pm ET)
                 

              "I would agree with you.  Under certain circumstances like rape, in which the woman did not actually have a choice in the matter of sexual relations. "

              If you would approve ANY abortion - you can't claim to be anti-abortion.  Either it's wrong or it's not, there's no "half-way" wrong. 

              "Other than that, the woman made a dumbfounded choice, and I believe she should have to live with that, not sacrifice a child because the mother was a dumb****."

              But see - she ISN'T sacrificing a child - because a foetus is NOT a CHILD.  So your argument is invalid from the get go.

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              • Author by Science101 (August 05, 2008 10:23 pm ET)
                   

                If you would approve ANY abortion - you can't claim to be anti-abortion.  Either it's wrong or it's not, there's no "half-way" wrong.

                Sure there is.  There are always limits.  Its like saying you approve of eveyrone driving cars, but only if they meet requirements.

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                • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (August 06, 2008 1:16 pm ET)
                     
                  It's actually nothing like that at all, but keep trying, your inept non-analogies would be funny were they not so pathologically stupid.
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                  • Author by john174541842 (August 06, 2008 6:10 pm ET)
                       
                    It's not a choice, it's a child.

                    I love it when people try to defend abortion "rights." Through their argument, they show that in their own minds, they believe that they were actually not a human life when they were in their own mother's womb. And that they believe that it was OK for them to be killed and sucked up through a tube and never exist on this earth just because "choice" needs to be legal. Sick.

                    With that mindset, I can begin to understand why people can justify supporting barry hussein obama.
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                    • Author by mefirst (August 06, 2008 6:40 pm ET)
                         
                      i think the question to science was what is the difference if pregnancy is a result of rape.  that is the view of the catholic church.  i disagree with their position, but they are consistent. 
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            • Author by IRONY 101 (August 05, 2008 10:18 pm ET)
                 
              Science, since you've already decided that abortion is acceptable who are you to decide that only under limited circumstances such as rape it's legal for a woman to elect to terminate a pregnancy?
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              • Author by Science101 (August 05, 2008 10:21 pm ET)
                   

                The same way the constitution says I have a right to own a gun - but lawmakers get to decide what TYPES of guns i can own.

                I personally would never advocate for abortion outside of a rape case, thats just my view on it.

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                • Author by Brabantio (August 06, 2008 9:37 am ET)
                     
                  Of course, if it's only legal for rape cases then reported rapes (by unknown assailants) will shoot through the roof, and investigating all of the claims will be a logistical impossibility.  Even if they all were investigated, it's not too likely that there's enough evidence to disprove the claim to the degree that anyone would feel comfortable forcing them to give birth.  It's sure not something I'd want to be wrong about, considering the consequences.
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            • Author by eddy3957 reregistered (August 05, 2008 10:41 pm ET)
                 

              "Under certain circumstances like rape, in which the woman did not actually have a choice in the matter of sexual relations.  Other than that, the woman made a dumbfounded choice, and I believe she should have to live with that, not sacrifice a child because the mother was a dumb****".---Science101

              How does a person—you said “child” Science—lose his/her rights by the circumstance of it’s conception, namely rape?

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            • Author by vysotsky (August 06, 2008 11:25 am ET)
                 

              Science101: Other than that, the woman made a dumbfounded choice, and I believe she should have to live with that, not sacrifice a child because the mother was a dumb****. 

              Science, you should really look up the word 'dumbfounded' and find out what it actually means before you use it in an attempt to accuse any women of making dumb choices and being dumb.

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          • Author by mike.cipolla5145 (August 07, 2008 11:33 am ET)
               
            I had to do some maintenance work at a Planned Parenthood yesterday. My boss knows I'm Catholic and suffer from abortion being legal. It was horrific. They had these idyllic posters about how "Every child a wanted child." With a sort of little house on the prairie midamerica marm n girlchild gardening in bonnets. What crap what spin. So in other words, "Kill all unwanted children." The place had this sanitized aura, high security. Very tense very phony. I vomited after I left. I think I'll donate the blood money from my hours to charity.
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      • Author by christopherpking (August 06, 2008 11:57 am ET)
           
        You have a better idea? I for one am seeing gangs OUT OF CONTROL. Many of these are Gangs started by Illegal Aliens. The Military is exactly how Mexico controls gangs in the inner cities. It works there, that is why they are all coming over here.
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        • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (August 06, 2008 1:20 pm ET)
             
          So why don't you move there, where you'll feel safe, just like a little police state fascist?
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          • Author by christopherpking (August 06, 2008 1:24 pm ET)
               
            I do not make promises I wont keep. Inlike all those liberal movie stars that swore they would move if Bush got re-elected. Lets here what you would do to change it before you lash at me like a barking dog.
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            • Author by princeofwheels (August 06, 2008 2:08 pm ET)
                 
              Chris the king,,,try to follow along. Here is how it works, Read article above...post or read other posts. Then respond to some posts or wait for someone to respond to your post...The key here is to follow along..I tried to find the "moving stars" article/post but couldn't find it. By the way, where are those WMDs?
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              • Author by christopherpking (August 06, 2008 2:13 pm ET)
                   
                 Never voted for that cronnie. never believed there where WMDs. Try again.
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    • Author by neondesert (August 05, 2008 8:57 pm ET)
         
      But it was only fantasy.
      The wall was too high,
      As you can see.
      No matter how he tried,
      He could not break free.
      And the worms ate into his brain.
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    • Author by annes10 (August 05, 2008 9:00 pm ET)
         

      I generally support reinstating the fairness doctrine. But if fairness were back, there is still no obvious way to fairly rebut this new Weiner rant:

      Maybe: 

      1) Issue a new commandment: Thou shalt not rape any large metal statues of liberals ... oops, liberty ... either by committing crimes if you are not from here, or by using said statue to develop odious metaphors if you are? Oh, and don't dishevel the statues either.

      2) Mikey, you have to let Shawnie and Corsi and McSame and Obama get some of the attention this week. It is not all about you.

      3) Nuh-Uh ...

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      • Author by DAWUSS (August 05, 2008 9:09 pm ET)
           

        Savage's answer to the Fairness Doctrine:

         

        "Put [Savage] on NBC, to provide a conservative rebuttal to their liberal statements" (may not be an exact quote but it is close)

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        • Author by wzwriter (August 06, 2008 8:37 am ET)
             

          WzWriter's answer to Weiner's Answer to the Fairness Doctrine:

          Lock Michael Weiner in a padded cell and throw away the key.  Society will be instantly improved.

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        • Author by dhpbear (August 06, 2008 8:29 pm ET)
             
          You forgot to use ALL UPPER-CASE! :)
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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (August 06, 2008 8:08 am ET)
           
        Well... you could balance this insane rant with some rational thought.  Just an idea.  I wouldn't even care if it was conservative or liberal, just as long as the speaker wasn't completely unhinged like this guy is.
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    • Author by zamfir273114 (August 05, 2008 9:14 pm ET)
         
      Savage has a point. Every neighborhood that illegals have migrated to has gone down the tubes. My birthplace of Van Nuys, CA is like "little Mexico" now. Shootings, rapings, pillaging, drive-by's, grafiti, prostitution, drugs, (you know, all the things that go along with the Mexican-illegal population. Even the African-American neighborhoods are in awe!
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      • Author by JLyons (August 05, 2008 9:21 pm ET)
           
        Zamfir, that is just a blantant racist piece of crap you just posted. Mexicans are not illegal people and they do not do illegal things , and your disgusting crack about African American neighboorhoods would be in awe? Obviously you are just playing games and want attention by your posts or your a racist piece of crap or both. Either way you are trash.
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        • Author by worrierking (August 05, 2008 10:02 pm ET)
             
          JLYONS, You've hit the nail on the head with Zamfir.

          Our friend is playing games and looking for attention, he/she or it is also a racist piece of trash. His/her's or it's concern troll routine is much too obvious.
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        • Author by Genghiz (August 06, 2008 7:28 am ET)
             
          "Mexicans are not illegal people and they do not do illegal things "

          You're right except that Mexicans (and others) who cross the border and break US law are illegals and do illegal things. The fact that liberal Democrats support the law breakers because it enhances their vote banks does not mitigate the fact that every illegal, is by definition, a criminal or worse. 


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          • Author by worrierking (August 06, 2008 8:58 am ET)
               
            Once more, and hopefully it'll sink in this time.

            Generally, illegal immigrants do NOT vote. If you'd like to argue that some do, there is greater evidence supporting the contention that illegal immigrants, especially those who are criminals, would not risk deportation just to be able to cast an illegal vote.

            You, and the right wing screechers in the media only show how ignorant you are when you make charges like this.

            But then, ignorance has been very profitable under the recent Republican administrations.

            Next time you should try to think through your charges and see how ridiculous they are.
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            • Author by christopherpking (August 06, 2008 12:30 pm ET)
                 
              You are right about them not votin to a degree. WHEN, amnesty was to be granted, it was the Dems as well as the Repubs who wanted this new voting block. That is the big picture. You left that out War.
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              • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (August 06, 2008 2:27 pm ET)
                   
                It was probably left out because it was neither significant nor germane to the topic.
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      • Author by T-Hone (August 06, 2008 8:29 am ET)
           

        Shootings, rapings, pillaging, drive-by's, grafiti, prostitution, drugs, (you know, all the things that go along with the Mexican-illegal population. Even the African-American neighborhoods are in awe!

        Got it, you think all blacks are criminals, but those Mexicans even put those blacks to shame!

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      • Author by vysotsky (August 06, 2008 1:00 pm ET)
           

        "Shootings, rapings, pillaging, drive-by's, grafiti, prostitution, drugs..."

        Wow, that's awful.  It sounds like every urban center in the world. 

        PC aside, the recipe for high rates of violent crime is hardly a mystery.  If you want a high crime rate, get some broad and major wealth disparity, provide little access to the legal means of acquiring and accumulating wealth for a particular community, and if you really want to spice things up, add a subcommunity that feels itself to be permanently marginalized. 

        This has nothing to do with illegal immigrants -- and certainly not Mexicans -- in particular.  This has happened in communities of legal immigrants.  This has happened in relatively homogenous communities.  And if you really think that illegal immigrants are exclusively or even primarily to blame for your hometown's crime rate, how to you square that with the fact that illegal immigrants commit crimes at a lower rate than citizens? (See this and this.)

        I know.  It's easier to blame the Mexicans. It certainly seems so much simpler than, say, addressing the actual causes of crime.

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    • Author by zamfir273114 (August 05, 2008 9:27 pm ET)
         
      Then why is it that every one of these Mexican populated areas crime-ridden? Really, all P.C. aside, can you tell me why the real estate prices decrease in these areas? One more thing, why are the prisons filled with Mexicans? P.C. aside. See, nothing ever gets done because everybody is afraid to talk about these things.
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      • Author by JLyons (August 05, 2008 9:37 pm ET)
           

        Prisons are filled with Mexicans? 

        Care to read the DOJ Report? Show me where it says Prisons are filled with Mexicans?

        http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/p05.pdf

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        • Author by Science101 (August 05, 2008 10:26 pm ET)
             

          I'm fairly certain hes referring to "mexicans" as illegal immigrants.  In which this article states that in 2003 alone, there were over 270,000.  Obviously the overwhelming majority of them are from Mexico.

          http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/27/114208.shtml

           

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          • Author by JLyons (August 05, 2008 10:31 pm ET)
               
            Science, newsmax is not a reliable source and your racist garbage is as bad as anyones one here. After your smearing of Obama in other post , you have no credibility whatsoever.
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          • Author by JLyons (August 05, 2008 10:34 pm ET)
               

            and Science read the attached from Wikepedia, it fits you and that racist piece of S*it Zamfir to the tee.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism

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            • Author by onionhead (August 05, 2008 11:22 pm ET)
                 

              Wow!  That's what I call a "virtual beat down".

              Jlyons, I might not always agree with you, but that awesome. Way to put those bigots in their place. 

               

               

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      • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (August 05, 2008 10:38 pm ET)
           

        One more thing, why are the prisons filled with Mexicans? P.C. aside. See, nothing ever gets done because everybody is afraid to talk about these things.

        Mexicans? You of course have proof that the prisons are filled with Mexicans and not say, Salvadorians or Ecuadorians or  Guatemalans or Argentinians or Colombians or Venezuelans or.......

        Understanding that, just because a person is of Latin decent does not automatically mean he's Mexican, seems like the first step in ANY discussion. 

        As far as prison population goes:

        Estimated number of persons held in state or federal prisons or local jails, by gender, race: White - 755,500, Black - 814,700, Hispanic - 410,900

        At mid year 2007 there were 4,618 black male sentenced prisoners per 100,000 black males in the United States, compared to 1,747 Hispanic male sentenced prisoners per 100,000 Hispanic males and 773 white male sentenced prisoners per 100,000 white males. http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/prisons.htm

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        • Author by christopherpking (August 06, 2008 12:36 pm ET)
             
          Kind of like the statements, "You dont like brown skin people"  or, "It the brown people", when it come to illegal immigrants. Shows how ignorant that poster is when they throw that hoopla out.
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      • Author by Kaliman (August 06, 2008 12:59 pm ET)
           

            I'm Mexican and I'm not a criminal.  All p.c. aside, though; you are a racist douchebag.  And since we're putting political correctness aside, I saw my house's worth soar and then plummet because greedy white people were doing some kind of magic with home prices and using their homes as ATMs.  You don't see me tripping, do you?  Because there are SOME PEOPLE who are very greedy and materialistic- in my opinion.  Now that I'm not being restrained by  p.c., maybe I can FINALLY talk about how my white neighbors cook up meth and the cops don't do anything about it. 

            I'd be lying if I said that I ever see Mexicans and blacks park around the corner to buy- but, of course, you wouldn't believe me if I said that they don't.  Moron. 

        Savage needs to jump the shark already.  Maybe you people will chill out then.  This old crank said that the media in my part of Cali wasn't reporting the identity of a child killer because he was probably an illegal.  The guy was a U.S. citizen, but, you know, he was Mexican-American, which is not a real American to racists like him. 

         

         

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        • Author by christopherpking (August 06, 2008 1:13 pm ET)
             

          The subject at hand is Illegal Aliens.

          When you saw the Immigration Ralleys, what flag was most present? DING..... The Mexican flag. I did not see thousands of flags from China, the Filipines, Argentina, Columbia ect.

          So, do you really wonder why the left and right percieve Illegal Aliens as mostly Mexican? I don't. Read above.

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          • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (August 06, 2008 2:31 pm ET)
               
            Your anecdotal evidence of a single unspecified event is nowhere near convincing proof that know a bit about any topic upon which you attempt to post.
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        • Author by dhpbear (August 06, 2008 8:33 pm ET)
             

          Amen, Kailman

           

          from one meth-avoiding white person :) 

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    • Author by mary59 (August 05, 2008 10:01 pm ET)
         

      I wonder if Weiner has ever read the words on the Statue of Liberty?

      "Give me your tired, your poor; your huddled masses yearning to breathe free; the wretched refuse of your teaming shore; send them, the hopeless tempest tossed to me.  I lift my lamp beside the golden door."

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      • Author by mary59 (August 05, 2008 11:24 pm ET)
           
        InSannity, O'lielly, Rush inlimbo, Savage...guess the wretched refuse is here already.
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      • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (August 06, 2008 12:37 am ET)
           
        Sorry, Mary, those words have been put into the "quaint" file, right next to the Geneva Conventions.
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        • Author by fawltylogic (August 06, 2008 2:00 am ET)
             
          Plus the statue is a gift from France anyway so who cares what it says.
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        • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (August 06, 2008 2:32 pm ET)
             

          those words have been put into the "quaint" file, right next to the Geneva Conventions.

          And the Magna Carta.

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    • Author by eddy3957 reregistered (August 05, 2008 10:12 pm ET)
         

      Why don't they cover the real story? Why don't they tell the rest of us to get ready for what's coming in this country?”—M. Savage

            The GOP he has helped gain power has played a big part in allowing these immigrants in to satisfy business’s demand for cheap labor.  But these same people who he helped bring to power have set things up so as to fix the over immigration ---a likely coming dramatic economic downturn due in part to the very high deficit spending on the Iraq “War” which he pushed hard for.

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    • Author by donaldmaddog5642 (August 05, 2008 11:08 pm ET)
         
      Many, many years ago I used to drive 50 miles, round-trip, to see a girlfriend, returning

      sometimes late at night. (Gas was 17-20 cents a gallon. You read that right, bubbula, 17-20 CENTS a gallon!) During those late night return trips I would listen to these crazy preachers, screaming and yelling all manner of insane things. I was entertained by them. They made me laugh. They made me feel superior because I was NOT nuts. I say they were preachers because even if they were just loony conspiracy nuts about politics or the news, they had the delivery of the anointed, the voices of Gawd. I find creatures like Mike Sewerage in the same mold. Just some screw-ball, hate fueled, moron with a mike pinned to his straight jacket and a nurse to wipe the drool from his chin. It's hard to be entertained these days, with so much at stake. It's also sad to know that MMFA has to give him the publicity he craves.
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      • Author by mary59 (August 05, 2008 11:22 pm ET)
           
        I remember gas wars at the stations when it got down to 9 cents...Loooong time ago.  I like your comparison to Weiner/Savage with a loony preacher.  Very apt, IMO
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    • Author by k1dork (August 05, 2008 11:41 pm ET)
         

      I'm confused? Aren't crimes being commited by illegal immigrants a bad thing? Why is what Savage said bad? Shouldn't we want some kind of control of who enters the country? 

      There was a family of three who was just murdered in San Francisco by an illegal immigrant, GANG MEMBER, who had been arrested before, but was allowed to stay in San Fran due to its status as a "sanctuary city." 

      I'm a black guy.  The Americans who are losing jobs to illegal immigrants are mostly black low-wage earners. How bout we take care of home first before accepting the poor from every foreign country in the world.

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      • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (August 06, 2008 12:40 am ET)
           

        I'm confused? (KDork)

        Was that a serious question?

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        • Author by roundhouse (August 06, 2008 1:42 am ET)
             
          I wonder which resident troll this dork is?

          zamfir?

          science?

          Hint: all you stupid trolls posting under different nicks, there is a one or two day holding period for all new commentors here. When a new name pops up immediately, it's because you have altered your user profile. It's a dead giveaway that someone is sockpuppeting.

          Pathetic.
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          • Author by Science101 (August 06, 2008 8:07 am ET)
               
            Nope not me.  I wouldn't come out and say I'm a black man.
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            • Author by worrierking (August 06, 2008 9:14 am ET)
                 
              OK, how about just "coming out"?
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              • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (August 06, 2008 10:42 am ET)
                   
                I think he's just saying he wouldn't try to convince anybody he's a man.
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            • Author by vysotsky (August 06, 2008 1:51 pm ET)
                 

              Science: I wouldn't come out and say I'm a black man.

              Um... and what would be wrong with doing that?
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          • Author by christopherpking (August 06, 2008 12:20 pm ET)
               
            That is not true. It took a few hours for my first few posts to show up. That seems to be the current waiting period.
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            • Author by roundhouse (August 06, 2008 1:29 pm ET)
                 
              Well, I guess you should know, ironmaiden evilib chris.
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              • Author by christopherpking (August 06, 2008 1:45 pm ET)
                   
                Iron Maiden and evillib where banned.
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                • Author by roundhouse (August 06, 2008 1:53 pm ET)
                     
                  Yes. You were.
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                • Author by roundhouse (August 06, 2008 1:58 pm ET)
                     
                  And thanks for inadvertently correcting my spelling. I forgot you used to spell your name, evillib, with two L's in the middle.
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                  • Author by princeofwheels (August 06, 2008 2:18 pm ET)
                       

                    ROUNDHOUSE, You get a Prince CROWN for a day. Next, an audition on CSI, Bizarro World.

                    Hey Chris the king..what you say?

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                • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (August 06, 2008 2:34 pm ET)
                     

                  Iron Maiden and evillib where banned.

                  I believe they also spelled "were" as "where."

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                  • Author by christopherpking (August 06, 2008 2:58 pm ET)
                       
                    I can spell ok, I just suck at typing. However, if it makes you feel elite to correct my spelling, I am all YOURS!
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          • Author by BottleBlonde (August 06, 2008 2:17 pm ET)
               

            Roundhouse

            Maybe it's because I haven't slept much in the last couple of days, but I don't understand what you're saying about their names and their posts popping up right away?

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            • Author by roundhouse (August 07, 2008 2:09 am ET)
                 
              I just remember when I opened my account here, my posts were monitored and suspended until the content could be determined inoffensive. Especially since I mostly post after business hours, my posts would often be in limbo for 12 hours, or longer. The original time signature of my posts would appear on the bottom of the little box we all live in here. For example, if I posted comments on Tuesday at 11:00 pm, my post wouldn;t actually appear until say Wednesday around 11:00 am. If you'll notice, dork's post has a time signature of 11:41 pm Tuesday Aug 5. This thread didn't become a thread until 8:16 pm Aug. 5. That's only a 2 hour and 25 minute lapse from the start of this thread until the time dork lived up to his nick.

              I just find it very suspicious.
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          • Author by k1dork (August 06, 2008 3:22 pm ET)
               

            No, actually this is my only account. My name is Jared Teer and I live in Olympia, WA if you want to check my myspace.

            I guess it's shocking for liberals to hear an articulate black man who doesn't need or want them to speak for him.

            I think I raised a legitimate question. I think Savage raises a good point.

            And it's my people, black people---the oppressed minority that liberals are supposed to care so much about---that lose jobs to illegal immigrants.

            So why so up in arms over Savage's comment? It shows me how transparent you really are. Your response to my post and the responses to Savage's comment on this issue, shows me that you don't care if there is any truth in the issue he brings up, but that you transparently attack anything he says.

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            • Author by vysotsky (August 06, 2008 6:19 pm ET)
                 
              "And it's my people, black people---the oppressed minority that liberals are supposed to care so much about---that lose jobs to illegal immigrants."

              And that's a flawed argument, because it's the same ones that whites used to justify discrimination against blacks: "They'll work for less, so they'll take jobs away from us." It's the same argument that's always used to deny poorer people an equal place in a labor market.

              There are two issues here, and it's important to distinguish them: illegal immigration, and xenophobia. The reason I object to Michael Savage's rants on these topics is that he thoroughly mixes the two.

              It's not that hard to argue that we should reduce illegal immigration: it's illegal, and illegal immigrants are easily exploited because they're unable to freely seek protections under the law. But that's not a very sexy radio topic. Xenophobia, on the other hand, is.

              Savage's rants about how illegal immigrants are stealing jobs and perpetrating crimes and raping the Statue of Liberty, etc... -- none of these 'arguments' have anything to do with illegal immigrants as illegal immigrants. Illegal immigrants commit crimes at lower rates than citizens. Raping the Statue of Liberty? That's a not-so-veiled appeal to fears about ethnic minorities' untamed sexuality. (It's frequently used against Africans and African Americans: the terror of pure white women being raped by uncontrollably sexual black men.) As for stealing jobs... exactly how is it "stealing" when one is paid for work? The fault there clearly lies with employers, not with the employees.

              Illegal aliens aren't taking jobs from African Americans: unscrupulous and criminal employers would rather hire an undocumented worker than an African American citizen. That's worth getting angry about, but the anger should be directed at the party that is abusing its power. And the illegal immigrant has a whole lot less power in this situation than the employer who is breaking the law and discriminating against qualified citizens.
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            • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (August 06, 2008 7:02 pm ET)
                 

              I guess it's shocking for liberals to hear an articulate black man who doesn't need or want them to speak for him.

              LOL, I hate to bust your bubble Jared, but there are several VERY intelligent, articulate black men who post on this site. 

              I think I raised a legitimate question. I think Savage raises a good point. And it's my people, black people---the oppressed minority that liberals are supposed to care so much about---that lose jobs to illegal immigrants.

              As a 73 years old African American woman, I understand that Hispanics are simply doing what everyone else is doing, trying to making a living, trying to take care of their families, trying to get ahead. As an African American I understand the struggle and don't blame Hispanics for trying. And by the way, stop pretending there's a line of African Americans wanting to work at McDonald or wash cars in 110 degree heat. You know back in the 60's that's what some white folks said about African Americans.

              So why so up in arms over Savage's comment? It shows me how transparent you really are.

              Because if Savage wants a response to his comments he should try making an intelligent comment. Save the racist ranting, they have no place in an honest discussion. You simply have chosen to ignore his racist rants, which tells me a little something about you. 

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              • Author by k1dork (August 07, 2008 1:12 am ET)
                   

                What was "racist" about his rant? I don't see one racial slur in what he said.

                So he's passionate when he speaks?  So what!

                Do you disagree with him on the issue? Do you think he's wrong on the ISSUE?

                Are you Ok with illegal immigrants coming and going as they please, taking jobs from Americans(whether the people who hire them are to blame or not), and abusing our medical and school system?

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                • Author by vysotsky (August 07, 2008 12:36 pm ET)
                     

                  So you missed the slurs about the Italians?  Admittedly, more a set of national/ethnic slurs than racist ones, but they were pretty impressive:

                  "...[Y]eah, drink your chianti, eat your mortadella, Schmi -- Guido. Go eat your mortadella, Guido, tell me how wonderful Tuscany is... Go ahead, go stuff your face with mortadella and drink your chianti and think the world is fine because you become an old drunk in an undershirt..."

                  Classy. And that was directed towards the Italians for doing something that Savage actually supports: deploying soldiers domestically.  But how did you miss all that? 

                  Did you also miss it when Savage said that Obama would be an "affirmative action president"?  

                  Did you happen to overlook Savage when he said that Martin Luther King Jr. Day is part of "a racket that is used to exploit primarily heterosexual, Christian, white males' birthright and steal from them what is their birthright and give it to people who didn't qualify for it."

                  Savage traffics in racial provocation. He routinely portrays Mexican illegal immigrants as an invading horde of diseased, violent criminals and angry racists.  This shouldn't come as a surprise to you.

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                • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (August 07, 2008 6:35 pm ET)
                     

                  Are you Ok with illegal immigrants coming and going as they please, taking jobs from Americans(whether the people who hire them are to blame or not), and abusing our medical and school system?

                  One thing this old African American woman has learned is not to continue to make the same stupid mistakes over and over.

                  There was a time, not so very long ago, when white workers were saying the same stupid crap you're saying about illegals, about African Americans. They would whine things like "they're taking all the good jobs" and "they're ruining this country". You should know better than to blame an entire group of people based on the actions of a few.

                  I notice you want to sidestep the employer of illegals and place all the blame on illegal immigrants themselves. Don't forget, they wouldn't come here if there were no jobs. They wouldn't own homes or cars if banks hadn't wanted their money.

                  Business wanted money and they didn't give a damn if the person was legal or illegal. Ignoring that main fact makes it hard to discuss the issue of illegal immigration with you. 

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            • Author by roundhouse (August 07, 2008 2:10 am ET)
                 
              "So why so up in arms over Savage's comment? It shows me how transparent you really are"

              Nope. It shows I have no tolerance for eliminationist rhetoric from neo-fascists.
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      • Author by princeofwheels (August 06, 2008 7:34 am ET)
           
        1Dork, write your congressman. Be a true American and get a job..if you have one tell the other poor people where to find those jobs. Wait...illegals can't get jobs here, the employers won't allow it. How silly of me.
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        • Author by christopherpking (August 06, 2008 12:25 pm ET)
             
          The poster above has a valid point. At one time not long ago it was the Black man that worked in the car washes, fast food chains, wharehouses ect.  As well many teenagers and less fortunate. Illegal Aliens have taken these positions now. Putting many Americans out of a job.
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          • Author by roundhouse (August 06, 2008 1:09 pm ET)
               
            So you blame immigrants instead of the greedy bastards who will stop at nothing to fill those positions with the cheapest labor possible?

            Read this article about abusive employers:

            http://online.wsj.com/article/fighting_words.html

            In 2006, the Jewish Daily Forward reported on AgriProcessors workers' complaints about low wages -- between $6.25 and $7 an hour -- and about receiving almost no safety training before starting jobs that are, statistically, among the most dangerous of jobs in the work force.

            But why didn't the packers just demand more money, or scold their bosses for being inconsiderate?

            Because their bosses had them over a barrel. Many of them were illegal immigrants, had probably borrowed money to come to Iowa, and consequently were "very malleable," in the words of University of Northern Iowa anthropologist Mark Grey, an expert on the local meatpacking industry. "They're at the mercy of whomever's going to hire them. They're at the mercy of their employer, at the mercy of the immigration authorities. You're going to do what the boss says or they'll turn you in to la migra [border patrol]."

            OK, so where was Ms. Chao? Sure, the Labor Department is investigating AgriProcessors now, but what has this exemplary agency been doing for the past seven years? When department officials weren't dreaming up schemes for "voluntary compliance" with federal rules by businesses, they were getting tough with labor unions -- the one institution that can be relied on to protect blue-collar workers.

            "The reason AgriProcessors employed 13-year-old children was because they could," Mark Lauritsen of the United Food and Commercial Workers, which has tried to organize the company's workers, told me. "Because they knew the federal Department of Labor would never come down on them."
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            • Author by christopherpking (August 06, 2008 1:22 pm ET)
                 
              I agree with you 100%. I feel employers should be jailed. For that matter, jail the homeowner that knowingly hires illegals as well for services. I refuse to pass all the blame onto the companies though. The Illegal is the one that made the choice.
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          • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (August 06, 2008 1:56 pm ET)
               

            Illegal Aliens have taken these positions now. Putting many Americans out of a job.

            LOL

            Yeah right. I just passed McDonald's where the line for job applicants was out the door and the car wash down the street was no different.<sarcasm>

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            • Author by christopherpking (August 06, 2008 2:14 pm ET)
                 
              You disagree with me?
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              • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (August 06, 2008 2:36 pm ET)
                   

                The Universe disagrees with you.

                How come you didn't put an extra "H' in "with," as you do in "w(h)ere" and "w(h)arehouse?"

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                • Author by christopherpking (August 06, 2008 3:00 pm ET)
                     
                  I am a stupid white trash hillbilly. Make you feel superior? Feeling better now? You condisending piece of garbage.
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              • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (August 06, 2008 2:48 pm ET)
                   

                You disagree with me?

                You generalize too much. 

                African Americans were the dominate work force in car washes and fast food places about 30 years ago. And yes, you see a much larger population of Latinos currently doing those jobs but you don't know if they're illegal. The fact that African Americans are no longer the dominate group working in those jobs cannot be attributed solely to illegal immigration. There is a host of reasons why African Americans are not longer doing those jobs, better educated/better jobs/higher prison population rates, just to name a few.

                About 30/40 years ago most nannies and, housekeepers were African Americans. White families found it cheaper to pay illegal immigrants because they didn't have to pay benefits (social security) because their nannies/housekeepers were illegal. They could demand overtime and not fear refusal, after all they could threaten to report their illegal status to the authorities. 

                Nothing about this issue is as black and white as you're trying to make it. 

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                • Author by roundhouse (August 07, 2008 2:18 am ET)
                     
                  If evillib is so concerned with the plight of working Americans, specifically African Americans, he would do well to do as Martin Luther King did; fight for labor rights and wage equality by fighting for the right for all of us to unionize. Labor unions have always been the champions of working Americans and have always raised living standards for all workers, not just union members.

                  Just a suggestion.
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    • Author by roundhouse (August 06, 2008 1:59 am ET)
         
      Savage is a straight up eliminationist.

      He's a neo-fascist who intends to watch our democracy die.

      He fears the freedom and the liberal principles in which our great nation is rooted.

      I have little doubt that Savage felt a swell of pride when he learned of the evil Jim Adkisson performed against those sweet people in Tennessee. But I do not hate Savage. I will obstinately resist allowing myself to be swallowed by the same kind of hatred that has deformed his conscience.

      I pity his wretched soul.
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    • Author by princeofwheels (August 06, 2008 7:41 am ET)
         

      A Vision,,,, Michael Revere riding in his Lincoln Navigator through the streets of San Francisco, (with Michael Douglas and Karl Malden in the back) screaming at the top of his lungs, "the Illegal Immigrants are Coming, the Illegal Immigtrants are Coming". And what does he think he will get in response? Everyone running to get their guns?

      P.S. Mikey Revere, it has probably be done many times over. My question is, what will you wear?

      P.S.S. Mikey Revere, you have evolved into a anticipated bore.            "It's Tuesday, what can I say today that will get me ratings?" Michael Revere Savage

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    • Author by zeezil (August 06, 2008 8:32 am ET)
         

      Dr. Michael Savage, I agree with you 100%

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      • Author by snoopy (August 06, 2008 12:46 pm ET)
           
        All racists usually do...
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        • Author by k1dork (August 06, 2008 4:27 pm ET)
             
          Yes, if you want the borders secure and are against illegal immigrants coming and going as they please, YOU'RE A RACIST.
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          • Author by roundhouse (August 07, 2008 2:28 am ET)
               
            Wrong. If you associate violent imagery to immigrants and liberals, you are an eliminationist. You would intimidate, or in the instance of Jim Adkisson, kill, rather than examine the root causes of immigration.

            There is a civic debate to be had on immigration, but to inject violence into the subject is to signal that pragmatic solutions are not part of your thinking. Violence, resentment and anger, Savage's tools, only serves to divide us along ideological lines.

            We can and should curtail the mass migration across our border, but the solution needs to be found in holistic solutions, not narrow thinking.
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    • Author by zeezil (August 06, 2008 8:34 am ET)
         

      It's because the elitists from both sides encourage, promote and are involved with globalism. Greed + Money = Power...Power + Greed = more Money...Money + more Power = more Greed...and the circle remain unbroken.

      The super wealthy, elitists and shadow government are intent on destroying the middle class of all countries which is the only entity in their way of total control. With the middle class destroyed, what is left is a huge mass of uneducated poor that can be herded like cattle into whatever use they desire. The middle class collectively has significant wealth and a great deal of education...two huge threats to the shadow government and globalists. They are hell-bent on it's destruction which is clearly evident with relocation of industry, outscorcing, unfair treaties, assults our law enforcement-health care-social-educational systems, open borders and massive allowance of third world immigration.

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      • Author by roundhouse (August 06, 2008 12:20 pm ET)
           
        So, you see our current economic problems, our lack of global standing in healthcare and education as an all out corporate war on the middle class? In general, I don't disagree.

        While you obviously believe that this is an elitist's war on the rest of us, what I don't understand is where and how you take the intellectual plunge and blame immigrant pawns in the struggle for our problems.
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    • Author by zeezil (August 06, 2008 8:35 am ET)
         

      A US GAO study found in a study population of 55,322 illegal aliens incarcerated, on average, each had been arrested 8 times for a total arrest figure of at least 459,614 times. If that isn't astounding enough, these 55,322 illegals in the study population had been arrested for committing 700,000 criminal offenses, which averages 13 crimes per illegal alien. So, each illegal alien incarcerated had been arrested 8 times and had committed at least 13 crimes.

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      • Author by roundhouse (August 06, 2008 12:07 pm ET)
           
        wow. Imagine that. Prisoners are repeat offenders. How do your numbers stack up against the rest of the prison population? I'm betting most every incarcerated individual has more than a few arrests to their credit.

        Your numbers lack context.
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    • Author by zeezil (August 06, 2008 8:36 am ET)
         

      According to the U.S. Bureau of Prisons, in 2005, 25% of prisoners in federal prisons were illegal aliens, and 4% were legal aliens. This proportion has not gone down; if anything, it has gone up markedly. Tom DeWeese, President of the American Policy Institute states that today, illegal aliens make up twenty nine percent of the U.S. prison population. Bill O'Reilly is on record more recently stating that illegal aliens account for 32% of the federal and state prison population.

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      • Author by vysotsky (August 06, 2008 4:45 pm ET)
           

        Please cite your source for these statistics.  I've heard these numbers thrown around quite a bit, but I've never seen them linked back to the DOJ and the Bureau of Justice Statistics.  If you can find a statistic from the Department of Justice's Bureau of Justice Statistics that backs up your claim, I'd be interested. 

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        • Author by vysotsky (August 06, 2008 6:23 pm ET)
             
          And to be clear, I mean, show me the source document for the stats you cite.
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    • Author by eweston8542983 (August 06, 2008 9:56 am ET)
         

      Yah internment of the Japanese population in WW2 seemed like such a good idea too. If you'd bothered to read the rest of this thread, you'd have noticed, the government figures do not support you.

      Still B+ for fear mongering.

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    • Author by hadassah21 (August 06, 2008 9:59 am ET)
         
      He seems to have forgotten that the Statue of Liberty asked these immigrants to come here and they really are what she calls them: "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" She didn't ask for just the good immigrants like the majority of immigrants are, she even asked for the minority that he considers wretched refuse. Lady Liberty has summoned them here - they are just following her call. She sees the capacity of this great country to uplift and help these huddled masses. Her mission is only hindered by small-minded, petty people like Savage.
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    • Author by wzwriter (August 06, 2008 11:46 am ET)
         
      I guess Michael Weiner got tired of bashing kids with autism, and decided to return to another one of his favorite targets....
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    • Author by minerva1_586368 (August 06, 2008 1:04 pm ET)
         
      Congratulations, Media Matters, once again, you took Savage's comments out of context.  Perhaps you can try to get a Nobel Peace prize like your hero Al Gore (for something that doesn't exist).  If you would actually LISTEN to what he has to say instead of twisting his words around, you'd understand who the real enemy is, and it isn't Christians, right-wingers or conservatives.
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      • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (August 06, 2008 4:12 pm ET)
           

        Congratulations, Media Matters, once again, you took Savage's comments out of context.

        OK, what context makes Weiner's misogynist and racist tripe palatable?

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      • Author by christopherpking (August 06, 2008 1:58 pm ET)
           
        I give you my word I wuld never flag anybody for anything they may say. Not my style.
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        • Author by roundhouse (August 06, 2008 2:05 pm ET)
             
          I know. I just found the post I was hyperventilating about. It's still intact. i jumped the gun.
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      • Author by roundhouse (August 06, 2008 1:59 pm ET)
           
        Never mind. Sorry. I just flagged this one as a duplicate.

        Consider this troll amnesty.
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    • Author by peebs755 (August 06, 2008 2:45 pm ET)
         
      This is another one of those "I feel it to be true, So it is" "FACTS". If 8 children a day were being raped by Illegal Aliens, it would be front page news. If that many children were being raped by Illeagl Aliens, we'd all know someone that this had happened to. That number of children would be so large, it wouldn't be ignored. I live in Sothern California, and see Illegals all the time. Everyday. Most of them, they just want to work to send home money to their family. The Drug Cartels in Tijuana scare me and I won't go down to Mexico anymore. I used to go to Rosarito for fun, but not anymore. But that said, all this fear-mongering is just out right ignorance and racsist crap.  
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      • Author by christopherpking (August 06, 2008 2:49 pm ET)
           

        Pathetic appeasers. I said molested, not raped. Big difference. Try reading it again.

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        • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (August 06, 2008 3:09 pm ET)
             

          Pathetic appeasers. I said molested, not raped. Big difference

          Sorry, but YOU should know, to a child there is no difference.

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          • Author by christopherpking (August 06, 2008 3:26 pm ET)
               
            Yes I understand that. but to the headlines, and the courts, it does.
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          • Author by christopherpking (August 06, 2008 5:05 pm ET)
               
            Molestation is anything sexual you do not like, reguardless of age. A 20 year old who has someone grab his/her privates, who does not like it, is molested.

            Rape is intercourse against the persons will (male or female)
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    • Author by dhpbear (August 06, 2008 8:16 pm ET)
         

      Well, there he goes again. 

       

      "Be afraid;  be VERY afraid"

       

      What a MISERABLE human being (?)

       

      He really is "Archie Bunker with a Phd"! 

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    • Author by dhpbear (August 06, 2008 8:26 pm ET)
         

      "It's not a choice, it's a child."

       This loser must be reading the rear-ends of Covenant Transport trucks!

       

      http://www.flickr.com/photos/queso/38099130/

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    • Author by peebs755 (August 07, 2008 4:01 am ET)
         
      My point still stands, wether rape, or molestation. The number of children affected would make this situation too big to be ignored, if it were true. which it is not. Split hairs all you want. your point is still false and stupid.
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    • Author by speedracer20NJ3576 (August 07, 2008 10:10 am ET)
         
      Savage once again shows his IGNORANCE. Also his rampant PARANOIA!!!!
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    • Author by mike.cipolla5145 (August 07, 2008 11:52 am ET)
         
      Good for the Italians. Death to the invaders, armed or otherwise. Ask not what my country can do for you. But what you can go home and do for your own. We owe you nothing. And no, we're not racists for not spending our last dime to support you and ruining our own quality of life. Illegal aliens and inconsiderate immigrants are the real uglies. If you travel or immigrate, I don't care who you are, where you are from or where you go, respect. Learn the language and customs. Or get out. Watch it on TV.
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