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August 05, 2008 8:49 pm ET

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SUMMARY: In The Obama Nation, Jerome Corsi writes that Sen. Barack Obama "has yet to answer" the question of whether "he stopped using marijuana and cocaine completely in college." But on Fox & Friends, Jerome Corsi contradicted that assertion, stating that Obama "fully admitted his drug use, both marijuana and cocaine. He says it continued through college." In fact, both of Corsi's allegations are false; Obama wrote in his memoir that he "stopped getting high" shortly after moving to New York City to attend Columbia University as an undergraduate.

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During the August 5 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends, Fox News contributor Bob Beckel said to Jerome Corsi, author of the recently released book The Obama Nation: Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality: "This book is full of innuendos, misstatements, lies. He says -- Mr. Corsi says, 'It's 300 pages, 600 footnotes, and I stand by every statement in this book.' Let me see if you stand by some of these statements, Doctor: 'Obama never revealed if or when he stopped using drugs.' That's a lie. The truth is that he said in his own book Dreams From My Father that he stopped when he got into college." As Media Matters for America documented, a July 30 WorldNetDaily.com article about author Jerome Corsi's forthcoming book, The Obama Nation: Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality (Threshold Editions), asserted that the book "points out" that "Barack Obama admitted using drugs in his autobiography but never revealed if or when he stopped." In his book, Corsi falsely claimed that "Obama has yet to answer" the question of whether "he stopped using marijuana and cocaine completely in college." But on Fox & Friends, Corsi contradicted his book's false claim by making another false claim, saying, "He fully admitted his drug use, both marijuana and cocaine. He says it continued through college."

In fact, Obama did not "say[] it continued through college"; he wrote in his memoir, Dreams From My Father (Crown, 1995), that he "stopped getting high" shortly after moving to New York City to attend Columbia University as an undergraduate, following two years at Occidental College.

During a subsequent discussion, Beckel said to Corsi, "You said that Barack Obama supported a bill that allowed mothers to kill their babies even after they were born. Now, were they gonna use knives, guns, or how were they gonna do that? And do you actually believe that to be true?" Corsi responded, "Well, it's true," and asserted that "Obama, on the floor of the Illinois state Senate, said that woman had an absolute right to abortion, to kill the baby even if it survived that abortion." In fact, during the floor debate on the bill Corsi was discussing -- which opponents said was unnecessary, as the Illinois criminal code unequivocally prohibits killing children, and said that it posed a threat to abortion rights -- Obama never said any such thing, as Media Matters noted in response to similar false claims by Corsi in several media appearances.

Beckel later brought up several controversial comments by Corsi: "Can I give you a couple other Corsi comments just so that people can understand the person writing this book? Corsi on Muslims: 'Ragheads are boy-bumpers and clearly are woman-haters.' " Beckel further said, "Corsi on -- you called 'John Effing Commie Kerry. He married Teresa then he became a Jew.' You say about Hillary Clinton, 'Fat Hog' Clinton." Later in the discussion, Beckel asked Corsi, "How long ago was, 'Anybody asked Hillary why she couldn't stop B.J. Bill being satisfied? She's a lesbo.' When did you say that?" Corsi responded, "Bob, I never defend these comments. They're ancient history," and claimed, "Ad hominem attacks on me are a fairly low way of trying to get to the substance of what I'm saying." Beckel later stated, "Doctor, I have looked through a good part of your book. All I can tell you is, you say you have 600 sources. Most of those sources are people who have right-wing agendas who are against Barack Obama." Beckel also said to Corsi: "[I]f you're holding yourself out here to be an expert on Barack Obama and say the kinds of things you've said, you have to understand why some of us question not only your standing, not only the accuracy of your book, but also your history."

From the August 5 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:

BECKEL: Mr. Corsi, with all due respect, usually I'm fairly lighthearted on this early morning show, which -- I love this show, Mr. Corsi, but I tell you, not this morning. This book is full of innuendos, misstatements, lies. He says -- Mr. Corsi says, "It's 300 pages, 600 footnotes, and I stand by every statement in this book." Let me see if you stand by some of these statements, Doctor: "Obama never revealed if or when he stopped using drugs." That's a lie. The truth is that he said in his own book Dreams From My Father that he stopped when he got into college. You want to respond to that?

CORSI: Well, Greg, we have Barack Obama's testimony on that. What additional proof do we have? I mean, there's no indication that --

BECKEL: What proof do we have when you stopped using drugs? I mean, what does that mean? That's ridiculous.

CORSI: Well, I mean, look, I'm not running for president. Barack Obama is. He fully admitted his drug use, both marijuana and cocaine. He says it continued through college. He began it in high school.

BECKEL: He did not say it continued through college. That is just absolutely wrong --

CORSI: Yes, he does. I'm sorry, Mr. Beckel --

BECKEL: That is absolutely wrong.

CORSI: He does. He said at Occidental College, he was continuing drugs. It's in the first discussion of his Occidental College days.

BRIAN KILMEADE (co-host): OK, besides the drugs --

BECKEL: Yeah, let me -- hold it, one more second. You said Malcolm X was his mentor in college. Malcolm X was dead 15 years when he got to college. What's the truth about that?

CORSI: Well, obviously, he read Malcolm X. He has extensive --

BECKEL: Oh, I see. He read it. I got it.

CORSI: Well, that's probably good enough. He had extensive discussions --

BECKEL: Oh, oh.

CORSI: -- of Malcolm X in his autobiography. It goes page after page. He said Malcolm X was the person he resonated with more than any other African-American author that he read.

GRETCHEN CARLSON (co-host): But Mr. Corsi, you believe --

BECKEL: Did you ever read anything by Hitler or anything like that, Doctor?

CORSI: They didn't resonate with me, and I never said --

BECKEL: Oh, I see, I see.

CORSI: -- in anything that -- Obama goes on --

BECKEL: And you know it resonated with Obama.

CORSI: Well, he said so. Just read his autobiography. He says that -- what he says is --

BECKEL: I've read his autobiography, and I don't think you have.

CORSI: Oh, no, I'm sorry. I about memorized his autobiography. And he says it --

BECKEL: Oh, really?

CORSI: -- explicitly, he says directly that Malcolm X was the mentor that he resonated with most in reading.

[...]

BECKEL: I know I don't have much time here. Let me just make a couple other points you make in this book. You said that Barack Obama supported a bill that allowed mothers to kill their babies even after they were born. Now, were they gonna use knives, guns, or how were they gonna do that? And do you actually believe that to be true?

CORSI: Well, it's true. Take a look --

BECKEL: Oh, come on.

CORSI: Well, Bob, I quoted him from the Illinois Senate floor. This was a case of a baby that survived an abortion attempt late term, forced-labor abortion. And the nurse, who is very famous out in Illinois, held this baby for 45 minutes, took it from the linen closet, the baby had Down syndrome, until the baby died.

BECKEL: The baby died --

CORSI: And Obama, on the floor of the Illinois state Senate, said that woman had an absolute right to abortion, to kill the baby even if it survived that abortion.

BECKEL: That is blatantly untrue.

CORSI: Well, you haven't looked at the case. I'm sorry.

BECKEL: Can I give you a couple other Corsi comments just so that people can understand the person writing this book? Corsi on Muslims: "Ragheads are boy-bumpers and clearly are woman-haters." Corsi's --

CORSI: Well, you know, Bob, why don't you talk about the apologies that I gave?

BECKEL: Just a second, just a second. I've listened to you, Doctor Corsi.

CORSI: You can go ahead -- talk about the apologies --

BECKEL: Corsi on -- you called "John Effing Commie Kerry. He married Teresa then he became a Jew." You say about Hillary Clinton, "Fat Hog" Clinton. Quote, "Anybody ask why" --

CORSI: Bob, those are old comments, Bob.

KILMEADE: Bob, let's just stick -- Bob, let's stick to this book.

CORSI: Bob, those are old comments, long ago apologized for.

BECKEL: Did you make those comments? Did you make those comments?

CORSI: Bob, you're going back to things that are ancient. I've already --

BECKEL: You know, anybody who'd make those comments -- listen, I wish you well, because you need some help.

CORSI: Well, Bob, look. If you -- you know, those are old comments. Why don't you go to the apologies for them? I said I wouldn't write anything that used anything extreme or impolitical speech. I haven't done that since those comments. Those comments have been long ago apologized for. You are going back to ancient history without talking about the apology.

BECKEL: Excuse me, Doctor. How long ago was, "Anybody asked Hillary why she couldn't stop B.J. Bill being satisfied? She's a lesbo." When did you say that?

CORSI: Bob, I never defend these comments.

KILMEADE: Bob, Bob, let's talk about this book.

CORSI: They're ancient history.

KILMEADE: Can we talk about this book? Let's just talk about this book in particular. What's the one thing that you think Bob doesn't even know about Barack Obama?

CORSI: Well, I don't think Bob appreciates how extremely leftist Obama is. And by the way, attacking me does not answer the arguments in this book. Ad hominem attacks on me are a fairly low way of trying to get to the substance of what I'm saying.

KILMEADE: Bob --

CARLSON: But you understand why people may not -- I mean, why Bob would take issue with some of the things.

CORSI: Well, Bob ought to look at the apologies. He ought to look at the whole record and not just go back to the original charges as if they have not been answered.

ANDREW NAPOLITANO (co-host): Bob, we'll give you the last word, Bob.

BECKEL: Doctor, I have looked through a good part of your book. All I can tell you is, you say you have 600 sources. Most of those sources are people who have right-wing agendas who are against Barack Obama.

CORSI: It's not true.

BECKEL: I'm telling you, these are not ad hominem attacks. Ad hominem attacks are made up. These are things you did say, and I think -- you may have apologized for them, Doctor, and a lot of us have said things we wish we hadn't said. But frankly, if you're holding yourself out here to be an expert on Barack Obama and say the kinds of things you've said, you have to understand why some of us question not only your standing, not only the accuracy of your book, but also your history.

CORSI: Bob, this will be my fourth New York Times best-seller, hopefully, in the last four years. I've written eight books in the last two years, and you're going back to ancient history. I don't think that's fair.

KILMEADE: Jerome Corsi, the author of Obama Nation. Bob Beckel.

BECKEL: I'd love to talk to you again, Doctor Corsi.

CORSI: Anytime. I look forward to it.

KILMEADE: You know what? We'll do this again, because --

BECKEL: Any time, any place, anywhere.

CORSI: You got it.

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    • Author by DAWUSS (August 05, 2008 8:51 pm ET)
         
      I'm getting a headache...
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      • Author by wzwriter (August 06, 2008 8:32 am ET)
           

        I'm getting a headache...

        You ARE a headache, Dawuss.

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      • Author by captfoster2 (August 06, 2008 8:44 am ET)
           

        I've said this before here and in every other place I blog.... hell, I even brought my kids up on this (only for them I cleaned it up a bit)------>

        The truth is a bitch when one relies on lying!

        Moral: It is easier to stand in front of people and tell the truth than it is to lie.... as the truth is what really happened.... where a lie (or in the case of this Corsi charactor) a bunch of lies are a story of the imagination! A made up story that needs constant looking after..... in other words... what did NOT happen!

        This is why Corsi will likely NEVER be seen beyond FoxNoise talking about these slanderous books!

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        • Author by Meremark (August 06, 2008 3:08 pm ET)
             

          Shades of give-'em-hell Harry Truman:  "I just tell the Truth and they think it's hell."

           

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    • Author by drivenslush (August 05, 2008 9:03 pm ET)
         
      Corsi is a ghoul... end of story.. he has no substance or honor... he's just.. oh well.. ick
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    • Author by wmjal5716 (August 05, 2008 10:01 pm ET)
         

      I knew Susan Estrich,  Susan Estrich was a friend of mine, Bob Beckel, you are no Susan Estrich.  THANK GOD FOR THAT!!!!

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    • Author by eweston8542983 (August 05, 2008 11:21 pm ET)
         

      A mighty head hurting circus is our national media, ah yes.

      In times of dexterity like these, the words of Super Chicken are a great comfort. "You knew the job was dangerous when you took it Fred."

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    • Author by donaldmaddog5642 (August 05, 2008 11:22 pm ET)
         
      If I wrote a book, say, about McCain without any facts, eye-witnesses, documents or other proofs, just my own enhanced "opinions", would any of you actually BUY it? Think of it - it would be so easy. I wouldn't need footnotes, bibliography, or even an index. Of course I would need some buddies in the media to have me on day and night to spew my unsupported and insupportable falsehoods and hawk my book. Maybe I need a couple of guys to write forwards or cover blurbs, like Kristol or Krankenhower what's-his- name from the Washington Post. I better get started. Let's see, who do I know over at Fox? Maybe I'll take Bill O'Reilly or Hannity to lunch. Wait a minute, I got Murdoch's number here someplace.....
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      • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (August 06, 2008 12:32 am ET)
           

        You'd better hurry, Maddog. My latest tome John McCain:What you don't Know about his Peyote-Fueled Goat F***ing hits the bookstores next Monday.

        BTW, hope you got that fire out without too much damage.

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        • Author by wolf kotenberg (August 06, 2008 12:39 am ET)
             
          Mccain went to sturgis, ND, today and unwittingly offered up his wife for the Buffalo Chip Beauty Contest.  it is on tape. i know all the wingnuts are going to spin it as just having fun, but this commander-in-chief wannabe is really out of touch and he scares me, specially if he gets a call at 3 AM.
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          • Author by lapsedlawyer (August 06, 2008 4:23 am ET)
               

            When he started telling the crowd about his energy policy, he kept losing his place, and then abruptly brought up Iraq.  Paris is right:  Dude is old.

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            • Author by foghornleghorn (August 06, 2008 11:36 am ET)
                 

              He also said we are going to win in Iraq the right way...

              BY WINNING!

              How can you refute that logic?

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          • Author by DAWUSS (August 06, 2008 11:45 am ET)
               
            Will the caller have to wait until after the tone?
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          • Author by wolf kotenberg (August 06, 2008 2:57 pm ET)
               
            South Dakota. Ooops on my part. My grandsons other grandpa goes there every year, I should know better where Sturgis is.Wonder what Dobson has to say about offering up wives for bikers beauty contest.
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    • Author by eweston8542983 (August 05, 2008 11:59 pm ET)
         
      A lot of us have Murdoch's number. In a strrictly symbolic sense.
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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (August 06, 2008 12:02 am ET)
         
      I think that now Mr Corsi has attracted enough attention to himself where we should have him checked for present use. I know the wingnuts don't care but i do. Slinging mud around like that deserves a fall into the muck
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    • Author by MickD (August 06, 2008 2:16 am ET)
         

      Well at least the pr*ck, because of the closeness of the Dem race, had to write two full pack-o-lies books for his blackhearted printer's deadline. Let's hope that those many sleepless nights gave him a bad case of insomnia.

      <>It will drive you crazy, I say, as I type these words at 1:20 CST.
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    • Author by PlankySmith (August 06, 2008 2:55 am ET)
         

      Ah, I love it when these guys get called out on their crap.

      Guy #1: "Your book contains numerous falsehoods. I'll give you reasoned, detailed, sourced reasons why."

      Guy #2: You're wrong. You need to read my book again. You need to read the other book again.

       

      This guy, Corsi, sounds exactly like Jonah Goldberg, of National Review and Liberal Fascism infamy. I sent Goldberg an email telling him why the arguments he presents in interviews elsewhere about his book were logical fallacies, and he responded back to me that he wouldn't defend himself against someone who hadn't read his book. When I didn't need to read his book to call him out on statements he's made about his book as well as printed excerpts. These guys know what they write are BS and they will just go blub blub blubbering that those who argue against them "don't know the facts" or are otherwise misinformed instead of addressing the issues.

      Oh, I also like how Corsi seems to feel that having book be #1 Bestsellers somehow legitimizes the claims inside those books. I think with the internet most people don't read through books before buying them anymore. I could buy his book, read it, and set it on fire and throw it in the trash, but it would still be recorded as having been sold, and contribute to the sales figures. That doesn't mean Corsi has any sort of authority on the subject matter he writes about.

       

      Ah well. Oh, I also emailed Corsi and linked to him Media Matters' article that listed the contradicting information between his book and Obama's books that he cites and asked him to defend himself against them. So far no response. Granted he's on this evil book tour, but I doubt I'll ever get any response. 

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    • Author by rtwmd1230 (August 06, 2008 8:54 am ET)
         
      Not a journalist by training, Beckel gives Brewer and the rest of the MSM a demonstration of how to do their jobs.
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    • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (August 06, 2008 12:49 pm ET)
         
      ALL WE NEED TO REMEMBER IS THAT corsi is nothing more thana LYING RIGHT WING HACK that will do anything, say anything to keep the REPUBLICANS in power
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    • Author by peebs755 (August 06, 2008 2:15 pm ET)
         
      N.Y. Times Bestseller is misleading. A lot of right wing groups buy in these books to inflate the sales figures so they can claim N.T.Times Bestseller! That happens with Ann "The Man" Coulters books when she releases them. Also, Just because you sell a lot of books, doesn't mean that its good, or you are an expert. I've never understood that bit of "knowledge".  
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    • Author by jlw7717595 (August 06, 2008 5:05 pm ET)
         
      How do you write 8 books in two years.  If my math is correct that is a book every 13 weeks.  These people cannot be doing in depth research when they write.  I am a historian and it takes us years to write indepth studies of events and people.  No wonder thier books are full of inaccuracies and false statements, they probably do not read thier sources carefully enough.
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      • Author by historygeek001 (August 07, 2008 4:03 pm ET)
           

        1.  He didn't say they were GOOD books.

        2.  What is this "research" of which you speak?

        3.  In depth study?  Why bother--it's easier to just make it up.

        4.  I'm pretty sure they carefully read their sources so they can be sure to quote them out of context.

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        • Author by jlw7717595 (August 08, 2008 1:11 pm ET)
             

          I understand what you are saying I was just venting because I labor to write as thoroughly as possible and these hacks make millions publishing trash.

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    • Author by donaldmaddog5642 (August 06, 2008 5:16 pm ET)
         
      I know I'm going to sound like Andy Rooney, but have you really examined the "Best Seller" lists? Not to put down real authors, but some of this stuff is just so much dreck. A book about helping your cat to knit can reach the list, sometimes for several weeks. I have friends who just buy books, whatever the subject. It's a kind of sickness. One of my friends actually has all of Joyce Carol Oates' books. "The Cucumber and Buttermilk Diet Book, 3rd Edition" is one of my personal favorites. "I'm O.K., F**k You", a recent Republican self-helper is climbing up fast. "Lacking Focus: the Undoing of Adolf Hitler as told to David Duke" is a page-turner.
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    • Author by jlw7717595 (August 08, 2008 11:44 am ET)
         
      Here is where Corsi is dishonest with his characterization of Obama on the abortion bill.  I went to Barnes and Noble and read the passages and Corsi says that Obama was the only senator who rose to protest a bill that would protect a child surviving a late term abortion.  Corsi notes that Obama did vote present also.  First, from what I can read, Obama was not the only senator to oppose the bill.  Second, Corsi does not mention that Obama rose in question to draw attention to the constitutional issues.  Obama said that he believed it did not matter how they voted that day because the courts would overturn the bill because (and he gave two nuanced constitutional arguments) it went father that merely protecting children who happened to survive late term abortions.  Corsi does not mention that Obama said in his remarks that he hoped a compromise could be reached on the sensitive issue (which would suggest he is for protecting the rights of children).  Corsi in essence picked two quotes out of Obama's remarks and said he opposed the bill because if you called a child who survived a late term abortion a person, then you had to call all fetuses persons which would make the bill an anti-abortion statute.  Any scholor worth anything would have had to put Obama's remarks in thier full context and not pick and choose the parts of the remarks that made their case.
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