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Ignoring key facts, MSNBC's Witt agreed with Freddoso that Obama's opponents in 1996 race were disqualified on a "technicality"

August 06, 2008 7:18 pm ET

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SUMMARY: During an interview with David Freddoso, MSNBC's Alex Witt baselessly adopted a word Freddoso used to describe how Sen. Barack Obama challenged his opponents' qualifications for appearing on the ballot of the 1996 Illinois state Senate Democratic primary for the 13th district, saying that Obama's opponents were disqualified on a "technicality." In fact, one of Obama's opponents in that 1996 race reportedly admitted that he "now suspects" some of the signatures his campaign collected were forged, while another reportedly had some of her signatures disqualified because they were from voters who lived outside the 13th district -- facts Witt did not raise during the interview.

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During an August 6 MSNBC Live interview with David Freddoso, author of the recently released book The Case Against Barack Obama (Regnery), anchor Alex Witt baselessly adopted a word Freddoso used to describe how Sen. Barack Obama challenged his opponents' qualifications for appearing on the ballot of the 1996 Illinois state Senate Democratic primary for the 13th district, saying that Obama's opponents were disqualified on a "technicality." In fact, one of Obama's opponents in that 1996 race reportedly admitted that he "now suspects" some of the signatures his campaign collected were forged, while another reportedly had some of her signatures disqualified because they were from voters who lived outside the 13th district -- facts Witt did not raise during the interview.

From Witt's interview with Freddoso:

WITT: I'm gonna get right into this with you here, David, because, in the beginning, you're accusing Barack Obama of having thrown all of his opponents off the ballot -- this during his run for Illinois Senate back in 1996.

FREDDOSO: Yes, that's right.

WITT: Now, these were eliminated because apparently some signatures they were mandated to have, they were declared invalid. A technicality --

FREDDOSO: Yes.

WITT: Absolutely.

FREDDOSO: Right.

WITT: But --

FREDDOSO: Perfectly, you know, perfectly legal, this sort of thing is done. What's interesting particularly, though, in this case is that Senator Obama begins The Audacity of Hope, by -- his book -- by describing how he had gone around the wards of Chicago's South Side and told everybody, hey, don't be cynical about politics. Politics is worthwhile. We can accomplish something if we work together. And then, what he says in the book is, I don't know if they loved the speech that much but they liked it enough that they made me their senator. Well, in fact, they made him their senator because they didn't have a choice on the ballot. Senator Obama sent his volunteers in to challenge thousands and thousands of signatures. Even once they'd thrown the incumbent state senator off the ballot, that wasn't enough. They decided they would challenge over 1,000 more signatures and throw even the hapless perennial candidate off the ballot as well.

However, in his book, Freddoso undermines his own assertion that the "incumbent state senator" he referred to during the interview, then-state Sen. Alice Palmer, was "thrown ... off the ballot" on a "technicality," by quoting from a 1996 Chicago Weekend article explaining that Palmer's signatures were disqualified because some of the voters who signed lived outside the 13th district -- a fact Witt did not mention. Additionally, Tribune reporter David Mendell wrote in his book Obama: From Promise to Power (Amistad, August 2007) that Palmer acknowledged at the time that her signatures had not been properly collected.

Further, while Freddoso did not name the "hapless perennial candidate" he referred to in the interview, on Page 3 of his book, he cites an April 4, 2007, Chicago Tribune article that described Gha-is Askia as "a perennially unsuccessful candidate" who was stricken from the ballot in 1996 following a challenge by Obama. However, while uncritically repeating Freddoso's claim that Palmer and Askia were disqualified because of a mere "technicality," Witt also did not mention that the same 2007 Tribune article Freddoso references in his book also reported that Askia "now suspects" some of the signatures his campaign collected were forged, as Media Matters for America has noted.

Media Matters has documented numerous other pieces of misinformation in The Case Against Barack Obama.

During a later discussion about Freddoso's book with Democratic National Committee senior adviser Jamal Simmons, Witt said: "[O]ne main point in this book is that Barack Obama is much more liberal than people think. And the National Journal reported back in January that Obama voted liberally in 65 out of 66 votes that were posed to him. They say that is proof that he is the most liberal senator in the country. Is that a problem?" Simmons responded: "Well, there are a lot of arguments about which votes were included in that designation when the National Journal did it. And in fact, depending on how you do the calculation, that's not necessarily the case." Indeed, contrary to Witt's assertion, the National Journal did not evaluate all of the votes "posed to" Obama, but rather based its rankings on a group of votes "selected by NJ reporters and editors, to place every senator on a liberal-to-conservative scale." In contrast, a study by political science professors Keith Poole and Jeff Lewis, using every non-unanimous vote cast in the Senate in 2007 to determine relative ideology, placed Obama in a tie for the 10th most liberal senator.

From Page 3 of The Case Against Barack Obama:

They had thrown an incumbent state senator off the ballot.

While they were at it, Obama's campaign got the other three candidates disqualified as well.

One of them was Gha-is Askia. He never had much of a chance of winning anyway, but he had gathered 1,899 signatures, and Team Obama took the time to challenge them as well.6 Askia spoke to the Chicago Tribune in 2007 about it:

"Why say you're for a new tomorrow, then do old-style Chicago politics to remove legitimate candidates?" Askia said. "He talks about honor and democracy, but what honor is there in getting rid of every other candidate so you can run scot-free? Why not let the people decide?"

From the 10 a.m. ET hour of the August 6 edition of MSNBC Live:

WITT: Back to politics, though -- Barack Obama isn't just battling John McCain these days, he's fighting allegations in a pair of new books. These kinds of attacks hurt John Kerry last time around but they may be particularly tricky for a political newcomer like Obama. So, is this a case of swift-boating all over again? David Freddoso is the author of the book, The Case Against Barack Obama, and David joins me now. Good morning to you.

FREDDOSO: Good morning, Alex.

WITT: I'm gonna get right into this with you here, David, because, in the beginning, you're accusing Barack Obama of having thrown all of his opponents off the ballot -- this during his run for Illinois Senate back in 1996.

FREDDOSO: Yes, that's right.

WITT: Now, these were eliminated because apparently some signatures they were mandated to have, they were declared invalid. A technicality --

FREDDOSO: Yes.

WITT: Absolutely.

FREDDOSO: Right.

WITT: But --

FREDDOSO: Perfectly, you know, perfectly legal, this sort of thing is done. What's interesting particularly, though, in this case is that Senator Obama begins The Audacity of Hope, by -- his book -- by describing how he had gone around the wards of Chicago's South Side and told everybody, hey, don't be cynical about politics. Politics is worthwhile. We can accomplish something if we work together. And then, what he says in the book is, I don't know if they loved the speech that much but they liked it enough that they made me their senator. Well, in fact, they made him their senator because they didn't have a choice on the ballot. Senator Obama sent his volunteers in to challenge thousands and thousands of signatures. Even once they'd thrown the incumbent state senator off the ballot, that wasn't enough. They decided they would challenge over 1,000 more signatures and throw even the hapless perennial candidate off the ballot as well.

WITT: And so, what's your interpretation of that in here?

FREDDOSO: Well, you know, Senator Obama has created this media image of himself as someone who stands for hope and change and an end to cynicism. But getting all your opponents thrown off the ballot so you can run unopposed doesn't necessarily seem to match with that message that he -- and that image that he's created.

[...]

WITT: David Freddoso, this book is called The Case Against Barack Obama. Thanks for sharing part of it. You might want to stick around because we're going to bring in right now Jamal Simmons, who is senior adviser for the Democratic National Committee. And Jamal joins me to talk about this. Jamal, you listened to the interview, I presume, with David here, and I know the argument from David Freddoso is that Obama has essentially gotten a free pass up to this point. What do you say to that?

SIMMONS: I think Barack Obama would argue with the free pass comment. It's been a pretty tough and long year and a half of campaigning for Barack Obama. The American public has gotten to know him fairly well over the course of these last couple years. And listen, I don't think it's in anybody's interest for us to be trying to sell books for David Freddoso and Regnery press, and the same group of people who put out some of this hateful stuff about John Kerry four years ago. This just does not -- is not the kind of debate the American public is really looking for right now when they are facing high gas prices and 51,000 people have lost jobs, and John McCain is arguing with Paris Hilton about energy, you know. I mean, this is not the kind of adult conversation that I think the American public has signed up for in this campaign.

WITT: OK. Then, Jamal, how about this angle of things? Because one main point in this book is that Barack Obama is much more liberal than people think. And the National Journal reported back in January that Obama voted liberally in 65 out of 66 votes that were posed to him. They say that is proof that he is the most liberal senator in the country. Is that a problem?

SIMMONS: Well, there are a lot of arguments about which votes were included in that designation when the National Journal did it. And in fact, depending on how you do the calculation, that's not necessarily the case. But if Republicans are calling a Democratic nominee for president liberal, I'm not sure that's exactly news.

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    • Author by DAWUSS (August 06, 2008 7:21 pm ET)
         
      Was this the one where his opponent in the primary dropped out due to a scandal and the Republicans had literally no one to run against him in the general?
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      • Author by BottleBlonde (August 06, 2008 7:37 pm ET)
           

        The way commenting works here is that you read the posting, then you comment.

        That way you can be much better informed about what you're posting about, instead of simply looking like someone who's trying to get the first post in to perhaps derail the thread or get attention.

         

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        • Author by therick (August 06, 2008 8:39 pm ET)
             

          Hi BB!  I'm elated!  Sorry to go off topic, but I just have to tell all my poster buddies the outcome of our local primary election!

          I WON !  The Democrats are taking over the reins of our Township bord this November, we out scored the Republicans by a 66 to 34 margin.  People are sick of the "Good Ol' Boys Club" running things.

          We've seen it happening all over the country, and it's great to be a small part of it.  We even named our campaign Progressives for [my real name] and this generally Republican town has sent their message by voting for us.  I never dreamed it would be so much work, but soooo worth it.

          Beats posting all day!

          Rick 

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          • Author by eweston8542983 (August 06, 2008 8:56 pm ET)
               

            Congrats Rick!

            Best of luck to you and your constitutes. May you all thrive.

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          • Author by DAWUSS (August 06, 2008 9:19 pm ET)
               
            Congrats
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          • Author by anotheramerican (August 06, 2008 10:23 pm ET)
               

            Congrats Rick!

            Best of luck. Let us know how it goes. 

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          • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (August 06, 2008 11:53 pm ET)
               

            Good for you, Rick.

            Now, seize their guns and bibles !!!!! Ha Ha ha ha !!!!

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            • Author by wzwriter (August 07, 2008 9:56 am ET)
                 

              Now, seize their guns and bibles !!!!! Ha Ha ha ha !!!!

              Boy - THAT would make them bitter.....  :-)

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              • Author by therick (August 08, 2008 4:37 pm ET)
                   

                They might be bitter after we tell the local church pastor that during our administration we will no longer open with a prayer.  We thought that instead we'll set aside a moment of silence.  We have heard objections from Jewish members of our community concerning the prayer practice, and although most of us are Christians, we feel strongly that no church should run government, and no government should run religion.

                Seems logical to me. 

                And thanks to all of you for the warm wishes!

                Rick

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          • Author by neondesert (August 07, 2008 10:45 am ET)
               

            Atta boy!

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          • Author by princeofwheels (August 07, 2008 10:59 am ET)
               
            THERICK, terrific. Remember, I contributed to your campaign and expect a nice cushy job with great pay and benefits. OOPS, sorry, you are the real THERICK, I thought I was talking to my Republican buddy Rick. He promised all of those things after he paid me to vote for him. And, I signed his petition 100 times.
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      • Author by onionhead (August 06, 2008 10:51 pm ET)
           
        Nope, that was the 2004 election for senator of Illinois.  Republicans did find someone to run against Obama: Alan Keyes (he was a lamb being led to slaughter).
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      • Author by see it real (August 07, 2008 6:33 pm ET)
           

        No, that was different.

        The GOP hired their anti-black Negro conservative mercenary Republican Alan "I Hate Black People More Than Whites Even Though I'm Black Myself" Keyes to come in from Maryland and run against Obama.  What an embarassment!

        Keyes ranted on by telling lies about Obama and abortion and gay marriage, and Keyes also insulted and offended Chicago's black talk radio station WVON-AM 1690 http://www.wvon.com, and in 2004 WVON was on dial 1690, when Keyes repeatedly rejected invitations to appear on WVON.

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    • Author by BottleBlonde (August 06, 2008 7:42 pm ET)
         

      Following the law to become qualified to run in an election is an integral part of our democracy. It's not a technicality, and having the reporter buy into the false meme that it is a technicality furthers the conservative agenda.

      It makes Obama look bad, when what he did is what every politician should do, and what every voter should support. We make people get over hurdles in our lives every day. People who are trying out for jobs have to take tests sometimes. Politicians running for office have to submit valid petitions with sufficient valid signatures. Anyone who claims that Obama did something wrong by challenging petitions is an unpatriotic American.

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      • Author by anotheramerican (August 06, 2008 10:26 pm ET)
           

        BB,

        I stated the same sentiments earlier this week, wrapping it around the phrase, "good old-fashioned politics", and was roundly criticized by many here. Glad to see you agree with me. 

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      • Author by leatherhelmet (August 06, 2008 10:37 pm ET)
           
        Seems some would call that "disenfranchisement".
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        • Author by BottleBlonde (August 07, 2008 12:40 am ET)
             

          Actually, no one could legitimately call that disenfranchisement.

          People trying to lie could call it that I guess.

          Disenfranchisement means to disallow a legitimate vote to take place. A candidate who doesn't collect the required amount of registered voter signatures in whatever district the race is being run in is not a legitimate candidate.

          Maybe you should look up the word.

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        • Author by wzwriter (August 07, 2008 10:43 am ET)
             

          Seems some would call that "disenfranchisement".

          Only people who think they have the right to violate the voting laws (like Ann "The Nam" Coulter) would call that "disenfrangisement".

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        • Author by eweston8542983 (August 07, 2008 1:06 pm ET)
             
          Like voter caging?
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    • Author by snoopy (August 07, 2008 12:13 am ET)
         

      Speaking of questionable, anyone see this?

      WASHINGTON — Alice Rocchio is an office manager at the New York headquarters of the Hess Corp., drives a 1993 Chevy Cavalier and lives in an apartment in Queens, N.Y., with her husband, Pasquale, an Amtrak foreman.

      Despite what appears to be a middle-class lifestyle, the couple has written $61,600 in checks to John McCain’s presidential campaign and the Republican National Committee, most of it within days of McCain’s decision to endorse offshore oil drilling.

      A former FEC official said that it’s possible that the Rocchios had the means to make those hefty contributions — their first reported donations to a federal campaign. But the official, who declined to be identified because of the sensitivity of the matter, said that their donations also could trigger a complaint or otherwise catch the eyes of the agency’s enforcement staff, tasked to ensure that companies or wealthy individuals don’t illegally circumvent contribution limits by using employees or other third parties as “conduits” for cash. Read on…

      TPM has been all over this story and it now appears that the Rocchios aren’t the only ones who are under the microscope for questionable donations to McCain and the RNC. And is it a coincidence that only a week after donations from a major American oil company low level employee, Flip Flop McCain changes his attitude on off-shore drilling?  On top of that, in a TPM update, the Rocchios are renters and that their donations exceed the median household income for the area they live in.

      Late Update: There’s a bit of dispute over whether Flushing, Queens, should be described as “middle class” or “lower middle class.” It turns out that the median household income in the Rocchios’ zip code is $58,069. Read on…

      When the Norman Hsu story broke, Hillary Clinton was pounded day after day by the media, so we should expect them to be all over this story — right?  Perhaps Keith Olbermann will run with this story and give it the national scrutiny it deserves.

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      • Author by mary59 (August 07, 2008 11:11 am ET)
           
        Good work!  Our investigative beagle is on the job, but there doesn't seem to be any vast left wing conspiracy to publicize this underhanded contribution.  Hmm.  Liberal press taking a very long holiday?
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    • Author by jsc34315314 (August 07, 2008 9:03 am ET)
         
      Keep up the good work, the more you attack both the Obama books the more they fly off the shelves and the truth is revealed.  Why don't you try the same thing with Nancy P's book her book is a huge disaster. Why don't you post a link to the NY Times or Amazon.com bestseller lists so your nutjob readers can see how successful you have been in promoting the two books you keep trying to knock.  The Speaker of the Flop does not even can't even sell 3,000 books, what a joke.
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      • Author by anotheramerican (August 07, 2008 10:55 am ET)
           

        JSC,

        If that were the case, then wouldn't it hold true that MMFA is helping sell Corsi's book by it's criticisms?

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      • Author by neondesert (August 07, 2008 11:05 am ET)
           

        Keep up the good work, the more you attack both the Obama books the more they fly off the shelves and the truth is revealed.

        Well, if Corsi and Fredosso don't mind being revealed as such, then I don't mind them making their living by being liars.

        I wouldn't be real proud of them if I was their kids or parents, but if they're willing to compromise their honor to make a few bucks, I doubt they care much what their families think.

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      • Author by princeofwheels (August 07, 2008 11:17 am ET)
           

        As I said before, isn't it just priceless that the Speaker of the House, a woman, is telling the impotent Repubs what to do. Beautiful. They did it to the Dems and now the little sissies are crying. Bedwetting may be their next option for attention.

        P.S. We're waiting for the books to go for 1.00 and then go to the 1/2 priced book store. I owe AA a book. P.S. Don't really care about anyone's books...Only the gavel that Pelosi uses to beat down the Ridiculous Repubs. Keep cryin'

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      • Author by snoopy (August 07, 2008 11:24 am ET)
           
        Yeah, right. That's why the right wing flying monkees are urging the mindless followers to buy the books in bulk. I give it two weeks before we see the buy one, get this wonderful sh!t-in-a-wrapper for free.
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    • Author by eweston8542983 (August 07, 2008 10:23 am ET)
         

      You may have two points. The noncabassa one, since McUnderinflated has gone negative, he's dropped three points.

      Since we're that influencial, the only place to go is advertising. Product placement anyone?

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      • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (August 07, 2008 12:23 pm ET)
           

         Product placement anyone?

        Please, EW, have some principles.

         

         

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        • Author by neondesert (August 07, 2008 12:53 pm ET)
             

          Just going over the list of MMfA's unacceptable content, Col, I find the following apply:

               Inappropriate?

                Exploitative?

                Disgusting?

          If you would efrain from posting such patronizing material in the future, I would appreciate it.

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          • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (August 07, 2008 1:12 pm ET)
               

            Wow, I don't know how that got in there Neon. I apologize, I was working on several things at once. It's pretty hot out here, makes it hard to think sometimes. I'll bet it's worse in Vegas, eh? I can't imagine the heat there, or the thirst, the type calling out for an award winning American lager.

             

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            • Author by neondesert (August 07, 2008 1:49 pm ET)
                 

              I don't know why, but suddenly, I'm thirsty.

              Think I'll trot down to my nearest convenience store in my super-comfortable Air Zoom SPARQ TR Elite training shoes.  It'll be effortless, like walking on air.  Just as long as all the chicks attracted by my Air Zooms stylish and sporty good looks don't delay me again...

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        • Author by eweston8542983 (August 07, 2008 1:12 pm ET)
             
          I usually store them in the basement with a few teachers and an education board or two. They don't decay so quickly down there. Good as a root celler.
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    • Author by right-winger (August 07, 2008 12:23 pm ET)
         
      I LOVE HOW THE NEGATIVE ADS THAT THEY PUT OUT ON OBAMA BACKED FIRED AND NOW MCCAIN AND THE MEDIA ARE TALKING ABOUT THE REAL PROBLEMS AND NOT ATTACKING OBAMA IN A MEAN WAY LIKE THEY WERE BEFORE. BUT MARK MY WORD IF THE NEGATIVE ADS THAT MCCAIN SAID OK TOO WOULD HAVE WORKED MCCAIN, RNC AND THE MEDIA WOULD STILL BE PLAYING THEM AND ATTACKING OBAMA IN A MEAN WAY AGAIN.LOOK FOR THEM TO SHOW ADS AND TALK ABOUT THEM THAT MAKE OBAMA LOOK LIKE HE IS ATTACKING MCCAIN. NOW THAT THEY SEE THAT ATTACKING DOES NOT WORK THEY WILL SHOW OBAMA ATTACKING POOR MCCAIN.
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    • Author by peebs755 (August 07, 2008 1:14 pm ET)
         
      You mean lie about Obama attcking McCain. What happenes is Obama says something, usually in response to a McCain falsehood, then McCain jumps up and down pointing, and crying "he's being critical of me Wahhh".
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    • Author by see it real (August 07, 2008 6:35 pm ET)
         

      Alex Witt is a right wing Republican herself who wants Liar McCain to be elected.  I'm sure she protected Liar Fredosso from the facts that expose him as a liar for that precise reason. 

      GOP-GE-NBC wants Liar McCain to be elected for both financial (defense contracts) and political reasons (Corporatist Conservative Fascist Republican Jack Welch, among others).

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    • Author by buccaluck (August 08, 2008 10:36 pm ET)
         

      OVERALL RELEVANCE 

      THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

      I know that some of you don't like to read long drawn out missives...

      so here's the executive summary.........

                                           Congress                  Military

      John McCain              26 Years                    22 Years

      Barack Obama          143 Days                       0   

      Summary Concluded!   

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    • Author by cArn (August 09, 2008 2:01 pm ET)
         
      Wow, theRick. Congratulations!!! I also hope the voters hold your feet to fire if, God forbid, you ever stray to the dark side ;D
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    • Author by highirish4863728 (August 09, 2008 5:44 pm ET)
         
      amazingly lame story by MM..gobbled up by all of you moonbats.
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