Corsi's reported cancellation of scheduled appearance on "pro-White" radio show leaves unanswered questions
SUMMARY: Obama Nation author Jerome Corsi's reported cancellation of a scheduled appearance on the "pro-White" radio show Political Cesspool because of a change in "travel plans" raises questions, including why he has previously appeared on the "pro-White" radio show, why he was scheduled to appear again, whether he intends to reschedule, and whether he is willing to publicly condemn the show.
As Media Matters for America and the Southern Poverty Law Center's Hatewatch blog have noted, Obama Nation author Jerome Corsi was reportedly scheduled to appear on the August 17 edition of The Political Cesspool Radio Show, a program whose "Statement of Principles" asserts that it "represent[s] a philosophy that is pro-White." Corsi had appeared on the July 20 edition of the show, in which he promoted his then-forthcoming book The Obama Nation and criticized Sen. Barack Obama. However, according to a post on Political Cesspool host James Edwards' blog, "Corsi, who had confirmed his appearance on today's Political Cesspool broadcast even after the recent media firestorm erupted, had his publicist send us an email canceling his appearance, which we received only a few minutes before his segment was scheduled to start. This is the only information we received, in the subject line: we need to cancel for tonight travel plans have changed." Corsi's reported statement that he cancelled the August 17 appearance because of a change in "travel plans" raises the following questions:
- Edwards claimed that Corsi "confirmed his appearance on today's Political Cesspool broadcast even after the recent media firestorm erupted." Given that Corsi has sought to distance himself from what Media Matters for America Senior Fellow Paul Waldman recently described as a "series of bigoted and hateful posts" Corsi wrote during 2001 to 2004 on FreeRepublic.com's online forums, why was Corsi reportedly planning to appear -- for at least the second time -- on a "pro-White" radio show?
- If Corsi simply cancelled the reportedly scheduled August 17 appearance because of a change in travel plans, does he intend to reschedule and appear on the "pro-White" program at a later date?
- If Corsi did not actually cancel his reportedly scheduled appearance because of a change in travel plans, but rather because of increasing media scrutiny of the show, is he willing to publicly condemn it?
As Media Matters has documented, according to its "Statement of Principles," Political Cesspool "represent[s] a philosophy that is pro-White" and "heartily endorse[s] and accept[s] as our own, the founding tenets of the Council of Conservative Citizens [CCC]." According to a Fall 2007 article in the Southern Poverty Law Center's Intelligence Report, " 'The Political Cesspool' in the past two years has become the primary radio nexus of hate in America." Media Matters has documented numerous statements by Edwards on his blog that echo Political Cesspool's statement of principles, as well as his statement that "[i]nterracial sex is white genocide."
Media Matters has noted that Corsi's July 20 appearance was streamed "Live" on the self-described "White Nationalist" and "White Pride" website Stormfront.org. Edwards has stated on his blog that Political Cesspool is "in syndication" with Stormfront, which The Washington Post described as "a central meeting place for the white power movement" in a June 22 article about "an increase in racist and white supremacist activity" surrounding Obama. Prior to Corsi's appearance on the July 20 broadcast, Edwards claimed that "most Jews ... regard[] Jews and whites as two different races," and co-host Winston Smith repeatedly referred to Obama as a "mulatto." The August 17 edition of Political Cesspool was also streamed live on Stormfront. From Stormfront.org, accessed at 5:30 p.m. ET on August 17:
If he said it was because of travel plans, so be it. Why should anyone doubt his word? : ))))))))
If Jerome Corsi said the sky was blue, I would doubt his word because he is a known liar.
I'm sure the WITH patrol will be here shortly.
I do confess to curiousity as to why he didn't show suddenly. I confess to a small bit of morbid curiousity about this.
Same here. Yet again, he could have had to change his "travel" plans (it's not like he has been proven to be a liar or anything before, oh, no, wait, I'm thinking of someone else).
I'm more than interested to see if and when he does decide to go onto the show. I mean, he wouldn't want to let his fan base down now would he?
I'm also waiting for the right wing "free speech" patrol to roll in here and claim something about liberals stifling Corsi's free speech, or something to that effect.
Let's see if they still want to back Coursey after they read this...
Saying that he cancelled because of travel plans furthers the conservative agenda. It doesn't discuss the issues surrounding him planning on appearing on this hatemonger site.
"Saying that he cancelled because of travel plans furthers the conservative agenda"
Huh?
wolf,
Just like saying vacation time in Hawaii furthers the liberal agenda?
Just like saying that vacationing in Hawaii is some sort of negative among Americans because it seems "foreign" and "exotic".
Is that the phrasing you intended?
Brab,
I was simply making light of BB's comment by example. Corsi's change in travel plans no more furthers the conservative agenda than Obama's vacation plans furthers a 'liberal' agenda.
I think the point is that he needs to be held accountable for his associations here, because it speaks to his credibility in a major way. Would you disagree?
If you don't, can you see how letting a high-profile Obama critic off the hook for this furthers a conservative agenda, since it fails to put his credibility into serious question as it should be?
Brab,
By taking into account Corsi's associations in order to acertain his credibility you are making the same argument that Obama critics are taking with Obama and his associations with Rev. Wright, and Ayers.
While there are differences, they do not work in Obama's faver. Appearing on a radio show is no where near the same level of association as being a parishioner for 20 years in Rev. Wright's black liberation theology church and nowhere near the association between Obama and Ayers when Obama started his political career from Ayers house.
If it is good for the Corsi goose, it is good for the Obamagander. :-)
I anticipated that response.
The first problem with that is that there are other benefits to associating with Wright. You don't have to agree with everything he says to get something out of his services. That's a matter of personal religion. The second, and larger, problem is that there's simply no comparison between the controversies here. If Wright spent his sermons saying "kill whitey!" then it would be unacceptable for anyone to associate with him at all.
So why would anyone want to go on a "pro-white" program if they didn't have at least some sympathy with that sentiment? To convince bigots not to vote for a black man? To profit from racism?
And besides this, Obama did break any ties with Wright. So then Corsi should make a similar statement either accepting or denouncing these people.
As for Ayers, I'm not sure how strong of a connection there really is there.
AA will soon be Sran Hannity's only remaining listener. They'll phone each other and call each other "great Americans"....
:-)
I don't I've even heard conservatives suggest that a vacation was inappropriate before.
If they did, they would be forced to admit that it was inappropriate for George W. Bush to spend the month of August 2001 at the Crawford Pig Farm instead of paying attention to the security briefings and trying to prevent the 9/11 attacks. (Unless he was in on them.....)
Wolf,
Although I do not follow Corsi and have no interest in his travel plans, aren't you being a bit assumptive in claiming that he is going into hiding simply because he decided not to appear on this radio show?
Although I do not follow Corsi and have no interest in his travel plans, aren't you being a bit assumptive in claiming that he is going into hiding simply because he decided not to appear on this radio show?
Has Corsi appeared on ANY radio or TV shows in the past few days? None that I've noticed. Which leads to the logical conclusion that he wasn't expecting the rough treatment he's getting from some in the media this time around and has gone into hiding until things cool off.....
"Saying that he cancelled because of travel plans furthers the conservative agenda"... by SueBottleBlondie
"Huh?"...by Tommy
Tommy, I'll see your "Huh?" & raise you one "WTF?"
Can't wait till SueBottleBlondie gets back here to explain just what the hell she's going off on here.
Let me see...Corsi cancelled an appearance because of travel plans. Ok. And? Why is this all so vexing to MMFA? And more importantly, how does this cancellation translate to Conservative mis-information or promoting an Conservative agenda?
Maybe the guy will re-schedule. Maybe he won't [I'll bet he does, it's a friendly venue for him.] But whether he does or not does not seem to meet MMFA's usual criteria.
Friendly venue or not, I bet he won't reschedule. I think it became apparent to him and his people that such an appearance would damage his already shaky credibility very badly.
I think it's very reasonable to speculate on this cancellation. It reeks of damage control.
Bill,
If he'd cancelled an appearance on Meet The Press, or Hardball, or any FOX program etc, I'd be speculating too. But this particular radio program seems right up his ally. Another words, friendly.
Either way, I still fail to see why MMFA is highlighting his cancellation here, unless they are suggesting that they are somehow responsible for him opting out.
And if that were the case, why not just acknowledge that?
The way it's presented here is tad unclear as to how this fits MMFA stated mission.
To play off of what I said earlier, what if Obama was scheduled on a radio program where the host advocated "killing Whitey"? Would a last-minute cancellation be the end of it, or would people want to know more?
And yes, I know Corsi isn't running for President, but it's a matter of public perception for either of them.
Brab,
I really don't know much about this radio program [other than what I've read here]. Are they advocates for killing Blacks?
Again, this particular venue seems a friendly one for Corsi. It's pro-White, & certainly would welcome an author bashing a Black candidate.
Corsi may have cancelled for purely legitimate reasons. Hey I've no problem with anyone speculating. Personally it wouldn't shock me if MMFA & others critical of his book may be forcing him to lay low for the present.
But BottleBlondie claimed this cancellation furthered a Conservative agenda. I just don't see how. And that was my original point.
"I really don't know much about this radio program [other than what I've read here]. Are they advocates for killing Blacks?"
You can't substitute "white" for "black" when talking about this sort of thing. For instance, "white power" is not equivalent to "black power", because the former is about maintaining power and the latter is about gaining equality. So it wouldn't make any sense for me to say a "pro-black" show, since there's nothing inherently racist about that. Since "pro-white" is about disdain for black people based on the color of their skin, I have to raise the bar on the other side to make it clear it's about hatred of white people. Otherwise it wouldn't work.
I don't think Bottleblonde phrased herself well, but you were questioning the item in itself. The merit of the article should be clear whether Bottleblonde expressed it clearly or not.
I was questioning BottleBlondies claim that Corsi's cancellation constituted Conservative information.
And I also asked how Corsi cancelling an appearance on a program friendly to his cause was either Conservative mis-information or furthered a Conservative agenda.
This thread really says nothing other than Corsi cancelled an appearance.
MMFA & others can speculate why, but I still wonder why this is even here...if one were to apply MMFA mission statement it's a weak thread.
J,
It was my point of contention as well. Why Brab went off about pro white power and pro black equality is really unclear, since neither you nor I addressed that at all.
Brab,
According to your definition can there ever be a black racist?
No, I didn't say it wouldn't ever happen.
"That wouldn't make a whole lot of sense. Even if they thought it would actually work, I'd still have to wonder why they would want to be separate."
You're speaking theoretically as far as I can tell, and so I am as well. What black people actually advocate "separate but equal"? And I would have to wonder why they would want to be separate. I don't know what part of that sentence is unclear to you.
".....Someone who thinks white people are inferior would be a racist"...... brabantio / Monday August 18, 2008 3:40:25 PM EDT
"What about someone who thinks white people should be separate but equal?..... tommy / Monday August 18, 2008 3:42:50 PM EDT
If you don't want to answer, then don't. Calling me names doesn't cut it.
"Therefore, that seems racist"
Then we agree, I don't know why you had to qualify it with so many disclaimers when it was a simple yes or no....
I was trying to make sure I understood what you were talking about, but I covered both possibilities from the start.
Even if you couldn't understand that one phrase, you should ask about the specific phrase instead of accusing me of dodging the question. I'm never afraid to answer questions here, never have been and never will be.
Dodge #2.
Brab,
Has there not been a black separatist movement in the U.S.?
Jeter suggested that the program would have to advocate killing black people for my comparison to be valid
No way Brab. I simply asked the question because I didn't know much about the program. I figured since YOU brought up killing Whiteys that maybe this particular program was in that same vain, but towards Blacks.
Kindly do not twist my words or meaning again.
"And I'm still waiting for someone to explain how this cancellation has anything to do with a Conservative agenda or mis-information"
Good luck, we haven't had that explained to us and that was our only point. Instead we got a lecture on pro white vs pro black? And I get accused of thread distractions and derailments. Go figure.......
Tommy,
I wasn't sure where Brab was going either but he occasionally goes off in a direction that detours from one's original point.
Like I wrote earlier, IF this guy Corsi had cancelled an appearance on Meet The Press or some other equally well known venue, then I'd figure for certain that he had chickened out.
But this particular radio program is a friendly setting for him. So maybe he simply cancelled for a legitimate reason.
MMFA's questions seem like just weak speculating.
And I'm still waiting for someone to explain how this cancellation has anything to do with a Conservative agenda or mis-information.
Again, if Obama were scheduled on the show I described and canceled at the last minute, would that be the end of the story?
Of course not, and so Corsi's cancellation isn't the end of the story here, either. It raises valid questions.
Brab,
Your comparison makes no sense. Obama would never schedule an appearance on the type of program you suggested. He's not stupid.
Corsi cancelling an appearance on a program very friendly towards him hardly merits intense speculation. Or any at all.
Had it been Meet The Press or Hardball etc, then MMFA might have a point.
Otherwise this thread is weak.
What? A black show of any nature would be friendly to Obama. Why the hell not?
And you could say the same thing for Corsi booking himself onto this show. Of course it's stupid. What does he get from it, exactly?
I don't know why it's so difficult for you to answer a simple question.
Brab the show you suggested Obama would appear on was this [YOUR WORDS] :
To play off of what I said earlier, what if Obama was scheduled on a radio program where the host advocated "killing Whitey"?
So you think Obama would be scheduled to appear on THAT type of program????
Brab your posts are heading into twilight zone mode.
Go bother Tommy.
Sorry Tommy ;-)
Tommy,
If you or I posted a ridiculous hypothetical, Brab would be screaming it made no sense because it was ridiculous.
But Brab does it, & we're supposed to treat it seriously.
Brab's quest to win every point, no matter how weak his argument, has become comical
What's ridiculous about it? It's assuming that Obama has a different character.
By this standard pretty much any hypothetical is ridiculous, simply because it's hypothetical. "Obama said blah blah...if McCain had said that he'd be tarred in the press". Well, McCain didn't say it, did he? He wouldn't say it, would he? So the hypothetical would be "ridiculous".
Racism is extreme to start, right? So I don't know how it's possible to avoid an extreme scenario here.
Jeter's argument is idiotic. The fact that Obama wouldn't do something doesn't invalidate a hypothetical regarding what would happen if he did. All hypotheticals would be worthless then. The only thing that can be done is to demonstrate how an answer to the question is meaningless because it doesn't correspond to the current situation. That sure seems like what he was doing with his "kill black people" response, but it didn't qualify for reasons I stated. Pointing out that Corsi is an author doesn't help either, because there's nothing in that difference that makes it acceptable for him to associate with racists. It still affects his credibility, and it's not going to magically go away because of the cancellation.
Jeter made no argument, his only point, as was mine, was questioning Sue's idiotic assertion that Corsi's travel plans furthered some conservative agenda and that is why MMFA put this thread here.
As of this writing, that has never been explained.
I understood very clearly the point Jeter was making, he simply questioned the same statement of Sue's that I did, that's all. Just because your sole purpose was to incite an argument and you couldn't, you introduced a ridiculous hypothetical about "killing whiteys" and hoped Jeter would take the bait. He didn't. He called it what it was and rightly pointed out how you tried to put words into his mouth. You got pissed. And keeping at it makes you look foolish.
Thank you Tommy.
You did a better job of explaining that than I could have done.
Brab threw in a ridiculous hypothetical meant to change the subject. It made no sense, & wasn't worth arguing about.
Now I'm still waiting for someone to explain why Corsi cancelling an appearance on a program very friendly to him deserves scrutiny.
Again for the common sense impaired, had he cancelled out on Meet The Press, Hardball or any other better known venue, then MMFA would have a valid reason to speculate.
Otherwise, as it stands, this entire topic/thread is weak.
The sole purpose was to show that there are still valid questions to be asked despite the last-minute cancellation. Now it's just plain wrong to pursue a point around here because it's inciting an argument, or something.
I didn't put any words in anyone's mouth. Do you realize that Jeter's supposed to be offended about my saying that he was trying to invalidate the hypothetical while all both of you have been trying to do is invalidate the hypothetical? What's he supposed to be upset about, exactly? Apparently you didn't notice that he didn't explain himself regarding that.
Are you operating on one brain cell today?
You present a ridiculous hypothetical about Obama appearing on some make believe Black radio station that rants about killing Whitey. Since that isn't even plausible, I didn't give it any credence.
My question to you had zip to do with your hypothetical [because it was so unrealistic it wasn't worth diddley squat] OTHER than to ask you specifically about the program Corsi was supposed to appear on. I told you I didn't know much about that show, other than it was Pro White, which I had read here.
I asked you a simple question. Did you know if this Pro-White station advocated violence/killing of Blacks.
Your hypothetical wasn't worth sh#t, but since you brought up killing, I figured you knew more about this Cesspool program than I did. Apparently I gave you too much credit. You only brought up killing to throw out some farfetched stupid hypothetical that would never occur.
If you can't prove your points honestly, please don't waste my time anymore.
"Are you operating on one brain cell today?"
Did I "touch a nerve", as Tommy would say?
"You present a ridiculous hypothetical about Obama appearing on some make believe Black radio station that rants about killing Whitey. Since that isn't even plausible, I didn't give it any credence."
It didn't need "credence" because I wasn't claiming it was likely to happen. It doesn't have to be plausible to be a valid hypothetical.
"My question to you had zip to do with your hypothetical [because it was so unrealistic it wasn't worth diddley squat] OTHER than to ask you specifically about the program Corsi was supposed to appear on. I told you I didn't know much about that show, other than it was Pro White, which I had read here...I asked you a simple question. Did you know if this Pro-White station advocated violence/killing of Blacks...Your hypothetical wasn't worth sh#t, but since you brought up killing, I figured you knew more about this Cesspool program than I did. Apparently I gave you too much credit. You only brought up killing to throw out some farfetched stupid hypothetical that would never occur."
Let's review what was said before:
"Jeter suggested that the program would have to advocate killing black people for my comparison to be valid"
...which you denied, and denied again in this post. And also in this post:
"Apparently I gave you too much credit. You only brought up killing to throw out some farfetched stupid hypothetical that would never occur"
You didn't ask the question as a suggestion that the comparison might be invalid, but when you got an answer to your question, that showed you that you gave me "too much credit" and that the hypothetical was "farfetched". And when you asked the question, you had already made the determination that the hypothetical was unrealistic, but then the validity of what I said hinged on my answer. So you found an answer that you already had determined. Brilliant work.
I'm so sorry that I took your question as actually being relevant to the point I was making, instead of assuming that it had no bearing on anything whatsoever. I also should have assumed that you had already dismissed the hypothetical even though you didn't make any indication of that and also asked a question which was directly related to the nature of the hypothetical. Mea culpa.
"If you can't prove your points honestly, please don't waste my time anymore."
Right, so posing a hypothetical which would not ever occur is dishonest, because hypotheticals are really just predictions in disguise. That is good to know. I've learned so much from you today, and I can't tell you how grateful I am.
Seriously, not as if I owe you any concessions here, but I could also pose the hypothetical as "what if a black man running for President was booked on a show where the hosts espoused hatred for white people as a whole?" Now, that wouldn't bring up killing, but it still seems unlikely that you would respond to that either because that would never occur, since that would be stupid of that candidate. Since you've essentially dismissed the notion of hypotheticals as a concept, don't pretend as if bringing up "killing whitey" makes any difference. That is dishonest.
I addressed the original question of what Bottleblonde said. I don't think it was well-phrased, and I understand the confusion there.
After that, I pointed out why the MMfA item is valid. I dared to use a hypothetical question, which Jeter didn't want to answer for some inexplicable reason. So far I'm not seeing anything I've done wrong, have you? I'm on topic and I'm using a well-known and accepted rhetorical device.
Jeter then asks a question which certainly seems to be aimed at the legitimacy of the hypothetical. I explain the reason for the exaggeration, which goes without any serious dispute. Then I'm somehow misrepresenting Jeter to point out the obvious nature of what he said, while the vile nature of this "misrepresentation" remains a mystery. Was that really an unfair assessment on my part? If not, what have I done wrong up to this point?
And now, Jeter directly contradicts himself trying to explain his nonsense, while insulting me and also accusing me of being dishonest. The contradiction proves that I wasn't putting words in his mouth, and I'm showing how if anyone is being dishonest here, it's Jeter.
So what exactly did I do wrong here? Is your message that if I'm making a point, if I explain what I'm saying, that Jeter and Tommy can make unwarranted accusations and insults against me and I'm supposed to let that slide?
Tell me why you think that's fair. Please. I'm dying to hear your purely objective and unbiased rationale for this.
Correction:I did talk about the item first, then made the comment about Bottleblonde. Jeter was talking about MMfA's item in general, though.
While I'm at it, let's look at my original response:"To play off of what I said earlier, what if Obama was scheduled on a radio program where the host advocated "killing Whitey"? Would a last-minute cancellation be the end of it, or would people want to know more?...And yes, I know Corsi isn't running for President, but it's a matter of public perception for either of them."
That seems simple enough, right? I sure didn't see what was complicated about it.
Obama never would have scheduled an appearance on a Black radio program that called for the killing of Whitey in the first place, so your hypothetical is ridiculous & I'm not surprised that Chris fell asleep reading more of your blather.
Give it up Brab. You are making less & less sense with every post.
Maybe you need a vacation.
Yes, it was a hypothetical. A hypothetical doesn't have to be likely to happen.
To clue you in, your insistence otherwise isn't making me look stupid.
It is absurd. Brab says that hypotheticals don't have to plausible....huh? So he invents some extreme, unthinkable one and then tries to shift the argument from the actual point, to his impossible hypothetical, and then demands we all follow him down loopy lane.
Yet he props himself up here all the time as the arbiter of truth, fairness and honesty, always ready to stomp out hypocrisy wherever he sniffs it out. He should stick to monitoring his own behavior.
The hypothetical was directly related to the point of the item. There was no "shift" from the main argument, unlike a discussion of "separate but equal".
And yes, hypotheticals do not have to be plausible. There's no "would that really happen?" test involved.
I didn't say I think he would be. Do I have to post the dictionary definition of the word "if"? Obviously it would be stupid, and it would be a huge red flag to everyone who doesn't agree with that program's viewpoint, just as it should be for Corsi.
But I'll bear this in mind the next time you or Tommy pose a hypothetical question, of course.
What seems suspicious to me, and most of you have either blazed past this part, or have seemingly ignored it, is that Corsi's agent cancelled his appearance on the radio program minutes before Corsi was set to go on the air. I've had travel plans change last minute, but to handle it like this - well, it's just suspicious.
And the fact that he's been on the program before leaves me wondering about Corsi as well. If he's not a racist, why doesn't he denounce it? You righties were screaming for Obama to denounce his "racist pals". Why not Corsi? I know, Corsi isn't running for prez. We all know that, but we also know that Corsi has published a scathing book about Obama - a book whose "facts" have been successfully countered and debunked.
Putting it all together, it looks like the Cons are doing some damage control, as one poster above mentioned.
They're tooting their own horns a bit and I don't think it's unreasonable to do so.
I don't either. But why not just come out & say so? They've done that before.
The way this thread is presented does not clearly state why it's here.
TOOT
The way it's presented here is tad unclear as to how this fits MMFA stated mission.
The was I see it, Jeter, MMFA's mission is to root out conservative misinformation. Jerome Corsi is conservative misinformation personified.
I think this is MMFA's way of playing tit-for-tat using Corsi's own tactics.
In much the same way that Corsi says, "all we have is his word," when condemning Obama for not proving concrete proof that he stopped getting high, MMFA appears to be condemning Corsi for providing only "his word" instead of concrete proof that his cancellation was due to travel plans.
As much as much as I enjoy seeing Corsi exposed for what he is, I've got one foot on the deck of the WITH Patrol boat this time.
So we do have some background information to conflate with him to wonder if he's actually telling the truth as to "why" he couldn't make it onto the KKK-radio show.
Maybe Corsi couldn't get his sheets back from the cleaners in time.....
:-)
I have seen his travel plans..
but...
they looked photo-shopped to me.
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Pundits and pollsters alike have wondered about the role racists might play in the 2008 presidential contest, but the new survey released today was the first concrete attempt to take the pulse of this key voting bloc.
The poll, conducted by Duh Magazine, suggests that Mr. Obama faces an uphill battle in his effort to win the votes of dyed-in-the-wool bigots.
"We wanted to know, why isn't Barack Obama closing the deal among racists?" said Charles Plugh, editor-in-chief of Duh. "The answer seems to be, because he's black."
In a head-to-head match-up, likely bigots chose Sen. McCain over Sen. Obama by a margin of one thousand to one, with a majority of racists saying they "strongly disagree" with Sen. Obama's decision not to be white.
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Duh editor Plugh says the poll indicates that Sen. Obama "has his work cut out for him" if he is going to make up lost ground among racists.
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Funny stuff, snoop...lol
The sad part is...this is exactly the kind of reporting that fills up the airtime on most cable news shows.
"Corsi, who had confirmed his appearance on today's Political Cesspool broadcast even after the recent media firestorm erupted, had his publicist send us an email canceling his appearance, which we received only a few minutes before his segment was scheduled to start. This is the only information we received, in the subject line: we need to cancel for tonight travel plans have changed."
So Corsi was on his way to the station, when suddenly a flight was booked for an hour later or so. How else do you change travel plans a few minutes before you're supposed to be on the air? If you knew you had to cancel earlier, wouldn't you generally let the program know earlier? It's pretty odd either way.
It's pretty odd either way.
So is Jerome Corsi. :-)
It is laughable that MMFA takes so much time to chronicle the travels of Corsi, who's book they have tried to dismiss.
All this blather made me curious so I went looking.
According to their website, "The Political Cesspool" is a three hours show on Sunday afternoons. They only broadcast on one local radio station in Memphis.
I doubt anyone outside of Sunday afternoon radio listeners in the Memphis area would even know about this program if it were not for Media Matters.
Next we'll be seeing MMFA taking on someone passing out flyers. :-)
Wow.
That makes it even worse. If the program is so little-known, then that gives him even less reason to go on it. He's not getting a great deal of publicity out of it, so why go? Aren't there larger, more mainstream places he could be? That only suggests that the only reason he's on the show is because he agrees with the "pro-white" position, which damages his credibility immensely.
How many of your toes did you shoot off with that single post?
Brab,
You are assuming that I am arguing that Corsi is not a racist while you and MMFA are arguing he is because he was to appear on this local, Sunday afternoon, radio show.
I have no idea as to Corsi's views on race so you needn't worry about my extremities. All those little piggies are still firmly attached and enjoying their association with the rest of my anatomy. :-)
I am not making the argument either way regarding Corsi's postion with regards to race. I am just laughing at the hyperbole surrounding this non-event cancellation with an unknown, (up to now,) local radio show.
I could care less when an where Corsi appears on his book selling tour. You guys are trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. It is fun watching everyone get so exorcised about it.
MMFA has become a caricature of itself. Maybe they should be looking down at their feet. I don't know how they can sink much lower.
Why is it making a mountain of a molehill if he books himself on a little-known racist program? Isn't it still racist?
That would seem to be the point, since it damages Corsi's credibility. And what's more, pointing out the limited range of the program only highlights how it should be noted here and other places, since otherwise who's going to know he was ever on the show?
If you aren't a racist, then the problems of associating with racists shouldn't have to be explained to you.
If a liberal were doing it, it would be front page news.
We all know the drill...
That's why we have the right-wing apologists here, with their WITH posts, deflections and thread derailments.
But liberals aren't doing it. Do you think they would? What a ridiculous sort of hypothetical that relies on a premise not matched by reality. Try to make your hypotheticals match up to the circumstances that are actually taking place, such as "If Obama was running for President..."
Thanks!
Yours truly,
Tommy's clubhouse, Inc.
-- It doesn't have to be plausible to be a valid hypothetical. -- brabantio
nuff said?
There's nothing about the nature of a hypothetical question that relies on plausibility. Can you demonstrate otherwise?
-- Next we'll be seeing MMFA taking on someone passing out flyers -- AA
Now that's funny...I don't care who you are.
You and snoop are bringing some good stuff today...always a good antidote for having to wade through the posts of those bitterly clinging to their rage.
Weren't you wingnuts drooling a few days ago about Corsi's book being #1 on the NY Times bestseller list, denying it was due to bulk sales, and stroking yourselves about the publicity he was getting?
Now that he's apparently slinking back into his wormhole, he's the same as a guy passing out flyers?
You guys are a barrel of monkeys.
Sorry, Wesley, I didn't mean that you specifically were posting about it. You're going along with dismissing Corsi as the equivalent of a guy passing out flyers.
Are you aware that his book has been getting a lot of publicity on TV and radio, and is being touted as a bestseller and a serious work, despite being exposed as very shoddy and inaccurate?
I'm not going along with anything...just thought the "passing out" fliers was funny. In fact, it struck me that the one passing out fliers was the radio program.
I'm fully aware of the controversy and the publicity surrounding Corsi's book. I have no plans to read it...thanks in part to mmfa's book reports.
Corsi, Hannity, Oblermann...to name a few that hold no interest for me.
'Calm after the Storm' flyer
Perhaps Corsi decided he needed to visit a professional? Thus his change in travel plans.The 'Calm after the Storm' flyer was designed to promote events celebrating World Mental Health Day at the National Maritime Museum.
Or, maybe he remembers this little tidbit from 2004:
Despite constant denials, the Bush-Cheney campaign today was busted coordinating with the "Swift Boat Veterans for Bush" in their smear campaign against John Kerry. The following press release was issued this afternoon by the Florida Democratic Party.
"Bush Campaign Caught Promoting "Swift Boat Vets for Truth"
Good point - it's Con damage control...
Corsi cannot be associated with a racist radio program. The Cons have enough problems without Corsi f*$king it up for them even more.
MMFA says the same thing day after day about anyone is not a liberal.
LOL
Yet here YOU are AGAIN.
MMFA says the same thing day after day about anyone is not a liberal. They need something to wake them up. And that thing will be when NOBAMA loses in November.
But you're a loser today.
UPDATE:
Not only is Jerome Corsi a liar, he's also a swindler:
Failed venture follows anti-Obama author
'95 investors sour over $1.2m deal
By Brian C. Mooney
Globe Staff / August 20, 2008
Bradley Amundson was at home in Minneapolis two weeks ago when a familiar face appeared on his television screen. It was Jerome Corsi - a blast from a humiliating time in Amundson's past. "I said: 'Hey, there's Corsi; what's he doing on TV?' " Amundson recalled.
Corsi was on a cable show, promoting his new anti-Barack Obama book, "The Obama Nation," but Amundson knows him in a very different context. Corsi, Amundson, and James M. "Mel" Rockefeller of Arizona were principals of a group that launched an investment venture in Poland in 1995 that eventually lost about $1.2 million, much of it raised from a group of about 20 Minnesota investors, Amundson said.
In his varied career as best-selling author, conservative journalist, and outspoken polemicist, Corsi has become one of the nation's most controversial political provocateurs. But the business deal that went sour before he became famous has made him the target of bitter criticism.
Corsi's role as investor is perhaps the least known of his several careers. And 13 years after the Poland deal, the fingers of blame are still wagging. At least two of those investors won court judgments in sep arate cases filed in courts in Hennepin and Dodge counties in Minnesota against Corsi and his two partners to recoup a portion of the money lost in the Poland deal, but they never collected from Corsi.
"It was basically a worthless document," said one of those investors, David Splittstoesser, a cement contractor from Rochester, Minn. When his lawyer tried to collect, he found Corsi's assets "had been moved into his wife's name . . . There was nothing to get out of him," Splittstoesser told the Globe.
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http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/08/20/failed_venture_follows_anti_obama_author/