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August 20, 2008 8:03 pm ET

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On the August 20 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show, Rush Limbaugh asserted of attacks by Sen. John McCain against Sen. Barack Obama: "[S]ee, there are Democrats -- the drive-bys" -- a term Limbaugh uses to denote the national media -- "are just so upset with these so-called 'ferocious attacks.' These have been benign. Even the Britney Spears/Paris Hilton ad was funny. It was benign." He later added: "It's -- you know, it's just -- it's just we can't hit the girl. I don't care how far feminism's saying, you can't hit the girl, and you can't -- you can't criticize the little black man-child. You just can't do it, 'cause it's just not right, It's not fair. He's such a victim."

Limbaugh previously claimed that "nobody criticizes [Sen.] Hillary [Clinton]. ... Well, you might say, 'No, Michelle Obama and Mrs. [Elizabeth] Edwards are out there criticizing her,' but, see, I finally figured this one out, too. You can't hit the girl. You just -- you can't hit the girl." He continued: "And for [former Democratic presidential candidate John] Edwards and Obama to go out there and criticize Hillary would -- she would -- she plays the victim better than anybody does, and she could make real hay out of that. So they've got their wives out there ripping her."

From the August 20 broadcast of Premiere Radio Networks' The Rush Limbaugh Show:

LIMBAUGH: Quickly, L.A. Times poll: "More striking, however, is the drop in Obama's favorable rating. Obama's favorable rating has slid from 59 percent to 48 percent since June. At the same time his negative rating has risen from 27 to 35 percent. The bulk of that shift stems from Republicans souring on Obama amid ferocious attacks on the Democrat by McCain and his allies." That's it -- see, there are Democrats -- the drive-bys are just so upset with these so-called "ferocious attacks." These have been benign. Even the Britney Spears/Paris Hilton ad was funny. It was benign.

Obama's patriotism is not being attacked in an ad. McCain's just out there saying he's putting his own personal political ambition ahead of the country's. It's -- you know, it's just -- it's just we can't hit the girl. I don't care how far feminism's saying, you can't hit the girl, and you can't -- you can't criticize the little black man-child. You just can't do it, 'cause it's just not right. It's not fair. He's such a victim.

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    • Author by DAWUSS (August 20, 2008 8:08 pm ET)
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      We can criticize Obama, but can it be about something substantive and not something unsubstantive?
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    • Author by megabot (August 20, 2008 8:10 pm ET)
         
      Rush, you want to use the N-word - RIGHT?
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      • Author by captfoster2 (August 21, 2008 2:17 am ET)
           

        Any doubt that Rush is just dying to scream out the N-word in hopes of no one caring or noticing?

        Coulter, Savage, O'Reilly, Hannity, Beck, Levin, etc, etc must all be sitting at their desks wondering which one of them will be the first to scream out the word first in the race to the bottom?

        Is there not a brave one among them?

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        • Author by kalentros (August 21, 2008 8:15 am ET)
             
          Probably McCain at the debates.
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          • Author by captfoster2 (August 21, 2008 11:34 am ET)
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            If Grampy is the first to blurt the word....... any chance that it would finally put the nail in his political career coffin?

            Or would the rightwing corporate owned media simply chalk it up as just another 'senior' moment?

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            • Author by RABBITLUVR (August 21, 2008 12:14 pm ET)
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              Macaca doomed George Allen so the N-word would effectively end John McCain's presidential aspirations in a heartbeat. No wriggling out of that one.
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      • Author by Joseph Nobles (August 21, 2008 8:06 am ET)
           

        It's not the N-word Limbaugh is hinting at here. It's the S-Word. The LBS-Word, to be precise.

        Little Black Sambo.

        And it's STILL only August.

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        • Author by wookie (August 21, 2008 9:42 am ET)
             
          Yep, its the usual pattern of "we're not allowed to say (insert Archie Bunkerism here)
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        • Author by Pyrrhonist (August 21, 2008 11:45 am ET)
             
          Bolo, I think you are dead on.  That was my thought when I heard this but then I really hate Limbaugh, so just to check, I played the audio for a neighbor and he immediately said "Why doesn't he just call him Sambo, because that's where he's going with this.""
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        • Author by skipp2989 (August 21, 2008 6:30 pm ET)
             
          I saw it more in terms of calling him "boy" without actually calling him "boy" as in "You can't say nothin' to that boy now that he's gotten all uppity."
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      • Author by Pyrrhonist (August 21, 2008 11:50 am ET)
           
        Give him time, he'll think up a new racial slur just for his dittoheads to use instead of the verboten ones.  It'll be something really juvenile, like "feminazi".
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    • Author by friedbergboy1422 (August 20, 2008 8:11 pm ET)
         

      Why bring race into it, Rush?

       

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      • Author by lindenbully (August 20, 2008 8:14 pm ET)
           
        Simple, he thinks he can get away with it.
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      • Author by rtwmd1230 (August 20, 2008 8:19 pm ET)
           
        Exactly right. Limbaugh's use of race in this comment is completely unjustified. Pure unvarnished bigotry.
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        • Author by wzwriter (August 21, 2008 9:02 am ET)
             
          Designed to appeal to his bigoted dittohead listening audience.
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      • Author by unhipcat (August 20, 2008 10:19 pm ET)
           
        Because he's a racist.
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        • Author by mgarnett251924 (August 21, 2008 9:25 am ET)
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          Like Rev Wright and Obama?
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          • Author by friedbergboy1422 (August 21, 2008 10:11 am ET)
               

            How is Obama racist?  Please show specific statements and actions done by Obama himself.

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            • Author by mgarnett251924 (August 21, 2008 10:58 am ET)
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              So to sit and listen to a America hater is NOT racist? Oh ok, it's just poor judgment...
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              • Author by robotchubby (August 21, 2008 11:58 am ET)
                   

                I thought America was a melting pot.  By saying someone who is an "America hater" is a racist, means you ASSUME (there you go again!) that America is only full of white people.

                Why do you even post here?

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              • Author by Pyrrhonist (August 21, 2008 12:01 pm ET)
                   
                Define America-hater.  Some, or maybe most, Americans are Democrats. Your idols trash Democratic Americans daily in vile and revolting ways.  Are they not by definition Some-of-America-Haters? 
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                • Author by mgarnett251924 (August 21, 2008 12:17 pm ET)
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                  Some / most / all Americans are Dems ?

                  ROFL

                  Wow, can't control your party then, cause Rebups keep winning.

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                  • Author by RABBITLUVR (August 21, 2008 12:21 pm ET)
                       
                    Did they win in 2006? Did they win those three special elections recently - including one in a solid-red district in Ole Miss? How are those 'rebups' doing these days in Virginny? Tell us...
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                  • Author by Pyrrhonist (August 21, 2008 12:31 pm ET)
                       
                    Who keeps winning?  Tell that to Rick Santorum and George Allen.  And mention it to the formerly cocky GOP leaders in Illinois, Louisiana and Mississippi - yes, Mississippi - who just lost once-safe seats in the House. You should tell the nice people in the white coats to switch your teevee off of Fox next time they bring the meds around. 
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              • Author by friedbergboy1422 (August 21, 2008 12:54 pm ET)
                   
                Listening to someone makes you something?  Are you sure you want to go down that road, MG?  You listen to Rush, correct?  Despite your denials, does that make you a racist or just show poor judgment?
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              • Author by unhipcat (August 21, 2008 5:06 pm ET)
                   
                Are you saying that everyone who listens to rush is a racist?
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              • Author by pparrish4537 (August 22, 2008 6:02 pm ET)
                   
                Is it okay for McCain to solicite the endorsements of racist preachers Parsley and Hagee while at the same time Obama severed ties w/Wright? Do you have a clue? What is wrong with you right-wing people?
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          • Author by RABBITLUVR (August 21, 2008 10:18 am ET)
               
            If you're gonna come on here and make statements such as that then either be prepared to back them up with solid evidence - no, that doesn't include Rush transcripts - or retract your statements.
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      • Author by pete592 (August 20, 2008 11:17 pm ET)
           
        Because he's a worthless, lying, racist, drug addict.
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        • Author by IRONY 101 (August 21, 2008 12:16 am ET)
             
          Yep, and IMO Barack Obama needs a hit man to say just that. Obama had better get p*ssed off and start firing back (through surrogates) at these people...
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          • Author by mgarnett251924 (August 21, 2008 9:27 am ET)
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            Like Wright ?

            Or Ares?

            Or Farakhan?

            Your side has haters too friend...

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            • Author by commonsenseliberal (August 21, 2008 12:03 pm ET)
                 
              First of all, ignoramus, Farrakhan, Wright and Ayers are not members of the mainstream left.  They are lunatics that most mainstream liberal Americans despise.  On the other hand, Rush, Coulter, et al. are members of the mainstream right in this country.  What does that say about your side?  At least the Democratic party doesn't make it common practice to carrouse (sp?) with such satanic inbreds - as the Republican party does with it's racists.
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              • Author by mgarnett251924 (August 21, 2008 12:20 pm ET)
                   

                Diagree...

                Lib side has Senators calling our brave soldiers "baby killers'...

                Mike Moore...

                Radical gays

                Radical enviromentalists,

                Yeah your side does NOT have wack jobs...

                LMAO

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                • Author by commonsenseliberal (August 21, 2008 12:27 pm ET)
                     

                  Nice.  You didn't rebut my post nor respond to any of my points.  Instead, you listed lunatics as representatives of the left-wing. 

                  Which Senator called soldiers 'baby killers'?

                  And speaking of radical gays (of which I am one), we're nowhere near as lunatic as you want and portray us to be.  At least radical gays don't shoot people, blow up clinics and Federal buildings to prove a point...unlike the those on your side who relish in terrorism, authoritarianism and hypocrisy - all under the mantle of the flag and G-d. 

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                • Author by friedbergboy1422 (August 21, 2008 1:37 pm ET)
                     
                  Define mainstream then, MG.  Perhaps we think a radio host who has the audience of Rush is more mainstream than a preacher, college professor, and "leader" who gets little media coverage.
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                • Author by nrenaud7161 (August 21, 2008 1:41 pm ET)
                     

                  Please back up your statements with evidence. I have never heard our military personell called "baby killers" by any main stream leftist.

                  Perhaps you are stuck in the 60's?

                  You have real problems with truth, just like the man you are defending.

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                • Author by leftinmississippi (August 21, 2008 6:06 pm ET)
                     
                  MGARNETT - Senator Kerry did not call the soldiers baby killers. He said some things that were pretty shocking, relating stories he had been told by soldiers, but that baby killers line was invented later by the Swiftboaters. 
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              • Author by topaahl7909 (August 23, 2008 2:27 pm ET)
                   

                Your comment…..“First of all, ignoramus, Farrakhan, Wright and Ayers are not members of the mainstream left. They are lunatics that most mainstream liberal Americans despise.”

                My comment …….Does the fact that Senator Barack Obama has said many times he admires Farrakhan, Rev. Wright and Ayers and has called them his friends classify Mr. Obama as a lunatic also?

                Your comment……”At least the Democratic party doesn't make it common practice to carrouse (sp?) with such satanic inbreds - as the Republican party does with it's racists.”

                My comment………The most hateful remarks and racist statements I have ever heard toward right wing thinkers are on left wing cable shows such as Bill Maher and the always fair minded Keith Olbermann show. I won’t bother to list the myriad of blog sites that spew hate and anger with their comments.

                My question is…… Why are Democrats so angry, hateful and mean toward anyone who would disagree with their comments or choices?.

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          • Author by Pyrrhonist (August 21, 2008 12:10 pm ET)
               

            Biden will do just that if they just put him in the ring.  I would love to see a Limbaugh-Biden smackdown. If Limbaugh isn't already back on the junk (and I think he is) that should do it.

              

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            • Author by unhipcat (August 21, 2008 5:28 pm ET)
                 

              rush will not debate Biden. rush will not debate Franken (despite a $1 million bet on Franken's part). rush will not debate anyone. he will not appear at any forum where he must debate the facts of an argument. rush will only appear where he is the subject of an interview by a timid news talker or someone who shares his views. making up lies on the radio and talking to people calling from their moms' basements does not count.

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              • Author by leftinmississippi (August 21, 2008 6:27 pm ET)
                   
                There would be no debate - Rush is too much of a coward - but you can bet if Biden is on the ticket Rush will be making up all manner of nasty things about him in the safety of his studio, surrounded by his call screeners. 
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      • Author by mgarnett251924 (August 21, 2008 9:22 am ET)
           

        Because BHO the "chosen" and his Pastor of 20 years  that BHO "knew nothing about" did... GD America, the KKK America.

        Who brought race into this again ?

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        • Author by friedbergboy1422 (August 21, 2008 10:12 am ET)
             
          So, the statements of his former pastor make Obama a racist?
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          • Author by RABBITLUVR (August 21, 2008 10:19 am ET)
               
            Guilt by association, once again. MGarnett and his fellow righties are reaching again as usual.
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            • Author by mgarnett251924 (August 21, 2008 11:01 am ET)
                 

              No, but if your willing to bring your entire family into a house of worship to hear the man you call a mentor PREACH HATE, one does have wonder about judgments, friendships, mentors and associations.

              I will conceed that it does not make you a racist if you have racist friends, but why would you be there if your not, or don't agree with Black Theology?

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              • Author by historygeek001 (August 21, 2008 11:34 am ET)
                   

                Have you actually heard any of Wright's sermons -- entire sermons, not just the clips on the Internet?  Have you spent any time at the church?  Where do you get your information that Wright is an "America hater?"  Sources matter. 

                Do you listen to Pat Buchanan?  How about Corsi?  They have been openly racist for years.  By your own logic, if Obama is racist, so are you. 

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                • Author by mgarnett251924 (August 21, 2008 11:45 am ET)
                     

                  Have you ?

                  How do you assume it's not true when the man REPEATS the very hate filled things in public in front of cameras.

                  Did we make that up also ?

                  Photo shopped I guess... (black copters swirl)

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                  • Author by RABBITLUVR (August 21, 2008 11:59 am ET)
                       
                    What are your sources for the 'Wright hates America' assertions?
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                    • Author by friedbergboy1422 (August 21, 2008 1:00 pm ET)
                         

                      This oughta be good, prepare yourselves for out of context.

                       

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                  • Author by historygeek001 (August 22, 2008 10:42 am ET)
                       
                    I have.  I've been to the church; not recently, but I have attended services there.  I'm white, and I was welcomed.  Once again, you don't know what you're talking about.
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              • Author by RABBITLUVR (August 21, 2008 11:57 am ET)
                   
                So by saying the United States has done some awful things in its history and that God may/will/whatever damn the United States for those things is hateful? How so?
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            • Author by commonsenseliberal (August 21, 2008 12:04 pm ET)
                 
              They're reaching into their buttholes to grab their heads, as usual.
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          • Author by hogprint (August 21, 2008 11:11 am ET)
               

            Only if the message comes through!

            http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/J/5/2/reverend-wright.jpg

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        • Author by commonsenseliberal (August 21, 2008 12:35 pm ET)
             

          So basically you're saying that Senator Obama is a racist because he went to a church where YOU say the pastor is a racist.

          OK, so that means that practicing Catholics are child-rapists - even if they haven't engaged in such dispicable behavior (because of the actions of a few pedophile priests)?  Your logic sucks.  Again.

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    • Author by lindenbully (August 20, 2008 8:26 pm ET)
         
      Will the Obama campaign, or the DNC or some 527 group use this as a bludgeon against the Republicans? If McCain can link Obama to Britney Spears and Paris Hilton, can't Obama link McCain to the biggest conservative voice on talk radio?
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      • Author by DAWUSS (August 20, 2008 8:30 pm ET)
           

        Good point - McCain's associations with Limbaugh and Hannity are just as strong as Obama's associations with Wright and Ayers.

         

        IIRC Michael Pfleger echoed what Limbaugh once stated about Hillary Rodham and only one of them was blasted to pieces for it...

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        • Author by lindenbully (August 20, 2008 8:38 pm ET)
             
          Right on cue, Da Knee-jerk. You don't even compare apples and oranges. It's more like hallucination and fantasy.
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          • Author by DAWUSS (August 20, 2008 8:41 pm ET)
               
            OK - if the conservatives can make some big connection between Obama and Wright and Ayers, why can't the liberals make some big connection between McCain and Limbaugh and Hannity?
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            • Author by lindenbully (August 20, 2008 8:48 pm ET)
                 
              There's absolutely no reason they can't. But I'm not going to be baited into agreeing that Ayres and Wright are the equivalent of Limbaugh, Coulter, Hannity, et al. These so-called pundits and commentators have done far more damage to the country than Wright and Ayres.
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              • Author by DAWUSS (August 20, 2008 8:54 pm ET)
                   
                OK - I see where you're coming from with that now. Neither one (Wright or Ayers) has impacted legislation in any way, unlike Limbaugh and Hannity.
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                • Author by deeznuts (August 21, 2008 12:34 am ET)
                     
                  Neither Wright nor Ayers has a daily venue where they are paid to spew their drivel.
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                  • Author by Science101 (August 21, 2008 7:03 am ET)
                       
                    So Wright doesnt make money spewing his drivel in the church?  His multimillion dollar home and Mercedes would disagree.  Ayers works in education I think, and he is getting paid to spew his as well.
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                    • Author by wzwriter (August 21, 2008 9:44 am ET)
                         
                      Do I detect a hint of ENVY at their affluence, Science?????
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                    • Author by friedbergboy1422 (August 21, 2008 10:13 am ET)
                         
                      Ayers is a racist?  Who has a bigger platform, Science?
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                    • Author by RABBITLUVR (August 21, 2008 10:21 am ET)
                         
                      Hey dipsh... Pseudo... answer this one. Are Rev. Wright's sermons broadcast on hundreds of radio stations coast-to-coast AND streamed online?
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                      • Author by Science101 (August 21, 2008 5:55 pm ET)
                           
                        Oh so now its about the size of the venue...not that their making money spewing it.  I see, nice change of subject matter.
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              • Author by mgarnett251924 (August 21, 2008 9:31 am ET)
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                OMG, I can't believe you really think that... WOW, blows my mind that any American can say what you just did... Ayers tried to blow up and kill people, he declared WAR on America, Wright spewed hatered against whites and America for 20 years.

                Ok, I get it, you hate Rush, and to a degree I can see your point, he can be a blow hole, but to even remotly try to connect an American bomber and American hater to a republican hack is a far streach.

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                • Author by RABBITLUVR (August 21, 2008 10:22 am ET)
                     
                  And what exactly does any of that bs have to do with Obama and his candidacy?
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                • Author by unitarianpatriot (August 21, 2008 11:24 am ET)
                     
                  You are right. There is no comparison. The racist and misogynisitic bile Mr. Limbaugh puts out -- and the hundreds of thousands of lives destroyed and the trillions of dollars wasted by the war and other policies for which he is a powerful advocate and apologist -- is so many times worse than anything the Rev. Wright and Mr. Ayres have done or said in their lives. On the other hand, other than donating a teensy percentage of his obscene wealth to help veterans, Mr. Limbaugh has done nothing of note to help humanity. In contrast, the Rev. Wright preaches against racism and imperialism. (Sorry, but it is not racist to point out the damage done by the white power structure of America. It is reporting.) His church cares for the downtrodden and helps them rebuild their lives. I know little of Mr. Ayres' life today, and I certainly condemn his violent acts in the Vietnam era. But he committed them in opposition to an immoral war. Mr. Limbaugh commits all of his acts in opposition to the basic humanity of most people on this planet.
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      • Author by semiarid (August 20, 2008 9:20 pm ET)
           

        Are you suggesting Obama go negative?

        I doubt the wisdom of that. Also, McCain can't really be linked to Limbaugh ... who is lukewarm at best in his support of "da mav". Hannity might have better linkability, since Sean made an iddy-biddy freudian slip on H&C a few weeks ago, acknowledging himselft to be a McCain surrogate. McCain, on the other hand, hasn't acknowledged Handy-Sean's surrogacy, but instead has made a big effort to remain detached from the rightie-hate-radio pundints ... fact, not opinion. Obama's campaign can't afford to stab blindly at McCain making false accusations about McCain/pundint collaborations.

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    • Author by peebs755 (August 20, 2008 8:26 pm ET)
         
      Is anyone surprised? He's been doing it for years. He's the very definition of "projection". Everything he accuses the Left of doing, he actually does. I remember him going on about how the Liberals didn't want Alberto Gonzalez because he was Hispanic. "Its the Liberals, ladies and Gentlemen who are the real racists. They're against Gonzalez because he's Mexican". I heard him make that completely unfounded statement quite a few times. Yeah right. The Left didn't want him because he was/is a criminal. Now he's going on about this. Its disgusting.
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      • Author by DAWUSS (August 20, 2008 8:36 pm ET)
           
        One thing that I think has helped me is when I listen to him after not listening to his show for a long period of time. At first he sounds like he's sold the American people for the Republican Party, but then the longer you listen to him, the more you start to think you were wrong about your initial thoughts about the man.
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    • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (August 20, 2008 8:27 pm ET)
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      Please tell me again that EL FLUSH BO is NOT  a racist ?
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      • Author by DAWUSS (August 20, 2008 8:31 pm ET)
           
        So this actually has truth to it?
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        • Author by snoopy (August 20, 2008 8:59 pm ET)
             
          That was funny!
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        • Author by roundhouse (August 20, 2008 10:08 pm ET)
             
          That was very funny. I never get tired of hearing it. Randi Rhodes plays it now and a again.
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        • Author by semiarid (August 20, 2008 10:45 pm ET)
             
          That's really Rush Limbaugh! I guess the guy has a bit more sense of reality of what he's about than I ever gave him credit for!
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        • Author by onionhead (August 20, 2008 11:41 pm ET)
             

          All right, I will grant you this: he's probably not a nazi and did not personally know Hitler.  Besides that, it's pretty spot-on.

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      • Author by zamfir273114 (August 20, 2008 9:23 pm ET)
           
        It doesn't take a gifted expert to realize that Rush Limbaugh is a racist. If he isn't, then all of his propaganda, country-splitting writers are. Unfortunately, he is the most dangerous kind. Atleast a KKK member or a Skinhead will come right out and call you a N1G$3r. Rush has millions and millions of listeners and tries to legitimize the outright bigotry. It's really sad, actually. It makes getting along with other ethnicities that much harder for a white guy.
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    • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (August 20, 2008 8:36 pm ET)
         
      I agree with LINDENBULLY.the DEMOCRATS need to start hitting back , fight fire with fire. The REPUBLICAN  lowball   smear tactics worked in 00 and 04 . T he only way  to effectivley counter their attacks is to hit  THEM BACK HARD WHERE IT HURTS. They need to use REPUBLICAN tactics back on the REPUBLICANS.
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      • Author by commonsenseliberal (August 21, 2008 12:16 pm ET)
           
        Normally I would disagree with you.  However, in the past, Democrats have taken the high road, tried to stay away from the most negative campaigning (not saying negativity's not used, but it's not used to the degree that the Republicans have used negativity).  This might be the time to begin with the negativity (well, maybe after the Dem. convention).  it's time to play hardball with these pricks on the right.  Being nice and taking the high road is all well and good, but it's not working.  I say, blast those righties!
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    • Author by zamfir273114 (August 20, 2008 8:38 pm ET)
         
      It's scary to think that Rush Limbaugh only speaks what his listeners want to hear. Remember, Rush is a greedy fat pig that would switch from right to left if he knew for certain it would be more profitable. I truly believe he doesn't even write any of his own rhetoric. I'm not a left-winger but I definitely don't like people like Rush, Hannity, Savage et. Al. I PARTICULARLY AM DISGUSTED by Ann Coulter; the woman gives the transgender community a bad name.
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      • Author by DAWUSS (August 20, 2008 8:45 pm ET)
           
        IIRC there was some White House somebody who stated that the WH would call conservative radio show hosts and provide them with talking points. It was George Bush (41 and 43) who were there to make the first phone call on the day of his 20th anniversary on the air.
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      • Author by leftinmississippi (August 20, 2008 9:07 pm ET)
           
        Good one, Zam. Ann Coulter is frightening!
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        • Author by zamfir273114 (August 20, 2008 9:13 pm ET)
             
          I don't know how anyone could like her. Even somebody that agreed with everything she says, Ann Coulter is so mean and vile it is a major undertaking to watch her. The woman is evil.
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          • Author by IRONY 101 (August 21, 2008 8:01 am ET)
               
            When she's on TV just put a mirror next to your set and look into it...you won't see Ann. I think she could be the first transgender vampire in recorded history.  ;>)
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            • Author by commonsenseliberal (August 21, 2008 12:31 pm ET)
                 
              Come on, Irony.  Your statement is an insult to upstanding vampires and transgendered folks alike!  ;)
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      • Author by semiarid (August 20, 2008 10:49 pm ET)
           
        Hah!  It is opposite day, or something similar ... 180 Julian was June 29th, but something's opposite ... today!
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    • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (August 20, 2008 8:39 pm ET)
         
      The longer I listen to FLUSH LIMBAUGH, the more nausiated I get.
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      • Author by RABBITLUVR (August 21, 2008 2:18 pm ET)
           
        That's why I can only take him in small doses perhaps every other day. His insanity and racism and outright stupidity is just too much. Thank god I am strong enough mentally to not be corrupted by that freak.
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    • Author by proudconservative (August 20, 2008 8:48 pm ET)
         
      As I looked over the last 5 pages or so of what MM(for very little) has deemed worthy of their esteemed response, you find a dearth of complaints about ABC, NBC, CBS or CNN's specific attacks on Obama.  Alot of focus is present on anything that makes McCain looked positive at all.  I guess the mainstream media is keeping its hands off of the messiah.
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      • Author by snoopy (August 20, 2008 9:10 pm ET)
           
        The conservative media is focused on making sure there is no scrutiny of the phony hero who pissed his pants after 4 days of "torture" wife beating, wife cheating, multiple acts of commiting infidelity, lying, dishonorable boy loving disgrace you call "nominee".
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        • Author by mgarnett251924 (August 21, 2008 11:18 am ET)
             

          Wow Snoopy, you are one bitter, left wing, American hater. It's a wonder you don't just go live in Africa, or Russia or Cuba where they embrace your ideas of utopia. It's failed everywhere it's tried! Socilized medicine / healthcare ( Englands is BROKE, out of money, rationing, Same in Canada ), class envy, ( pitting Evil Rich against do nothing welfare handout waiting leachs ). That will not win, nor has it won your side elections.

          The far left in this great country has to HIDE it's real intent as long as it can. It nevers tells the truth about what it has planned for America. Total welfare state, ALL services and needs PROVIDED by the commie elites, no incentive to work, just wait for your handout, rampant drug use and lawlessness. What a great utopia that is...

          That's why we fight your side and why you fight so hard against us...

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          • Author by snoopy (August 21, 2008 12:18 pm ET)
               
            talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Too bad you weren't around during WW2, the republican utopia you dream of was tried by the mentor of the modern conservative movement. In the end Germany was totally crushed.
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          • Author by commonsenseliberal (August 21, 2008 12:38 pm ET)
               

            Savage Wiener, is that you?  Come on now, 'fess up. 

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            • Author by Pyrrhonist (August 21, 2008 12:51 pm ET)
                 
              CSL - I've come to believe MGARNETT is a plant just put on this site to reinforce the opinions of those who, you know, have their own thoughts.  Remember during the Michael Jackson trial when Fox had that string of crazy African-American people coming to his defense? The host would ask a reasonable (for Fox) question, the guest would give the pre-planned Fox approved "crazy black peron" answer, and then the host would look at the camera as if to say "We invite them on for a conversation and they just go nuts! What can you do?".  MG  is just too whacky to be believable, therefore, he must be an affirmation plant.
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          • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (August 21, 2008 2:15 pm ET)
               

            Wow Snoopy, you are one bitter, left wing, American hater

            What your small pea sized brain can't grasp is disagreement does not mean hate. You run around ranting and calling YOUR godd*mn fellow AMERICAN citizens "American haters" because they don't agree with you lunatic rantings!

            F**K YOU! I don't agree with ANYTHING that comes from your pea sized brain but I don't think you hate this country, you pathetic little weasel!

             

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          • Author by RABBITLUVR (August 21, 2008 2:21 pm ET)
               
            See a doctor. Now. Your brain is seriously putrefied and you're in need of a transplant.
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          • Author by nrenaud7161 (August 21, 2008 3:42 pm ET)
               

            Rampant drug use and lawlessness MG? That's pretty funny, considering Rush Limbaugh's percocet popping past. Remember, he made his housekeeper buy him narcotics on the street? I believe that buying and using unprescribed narcotic painkillers is against the law, even for a facist.

             Also, we are the America lovers! We love freedom, including freedom of speech, even when we do not agree.

            I am appalled that anyone would even try to defend Rush's words about Barack. The words he used are so obviously racist, there is no way to defend them at all. 

            You have not come up with one shred of actual evidence to back up your claims of racism or hate speak on the part of liberals or Barack Obama. You just do a lot of vitriolic spewing.

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      • Author by pete592 (August 21, 2008 11:21 am ET)
           

        "I guess the mainstream media is keeping its hands off of the messiah."

        This "messiah" crap was started by cons like you.

        The political side that considers itself to be the most holy, the most faithful, and the most devout is so sacred of Obama that they've found it necessary to hijack and propagandize a term that I thought mistakenly thought was sacred and exclusive to their Lord and savior, Jesus Christ.

        The conservative right has taken "messiah" and turned it into a cheap school yard taunt.  I hope you're all proud of yourselves.

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        • Author by mgarnett251924 (August 21, 2008 11:24 am ET)
             

          BHO took the flag of the USA off his plane, replaced it with his "new one world order" OHB symbol, talks about being "a citizen of the world" and I wonder just who is the radical... BHO or Rush.

          At least Rush talks about pride in America, while the Obama's do not...

           That fits well here on MMA

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          • Author by pete592 (August 21, 2008 12:05 pm ET)
               

            Yeah, that means he hates America, right?

            And where's the flag on McCain's jet?  Oh yeah, his plane's got a small one, JUST LIKE OBAMA'S PLANE DOES.

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          • Author by jasondab9842 (August 21, 2008 1:19 pm ET)
               

            Lets's get some facts straight.

            FACT - Obama's plane was owned by North American Airlines.  Their trademarked logo, a stylized American flag, can be found on the tail of all their planes.  What was removed was a trademarked image.

            FACT - Obama's campaign plane was repainted, just as other candidates have repainted their campaign planes to make them function as a marketing tool.

            FACT - Obama's plane has an American flag on it, right next to the registration numbers on the fuselage.  Which is the traditional place to put the flag on an American plane.

            Again, people don't have any real issues to bring up, so they nitpick minutiae.  If you really want to bother with this, explain why McCain is riding in a FRENCH made plane that is white, blue, and yellow -hardly patriotic colors, don'tcha think?  If it's silly to bring this up regarding McCain, then it's silly to obesess over this with Obama.

            For me, patriotism isn't about clothing or logos or pins or buttons or stuff like that.  That's all surface, and is easy for anyone to do.  I care more about someone being a patriot than them showing off their patriotism like it's some cheap accessory.  I care about issues, not presentation, then again I'm a liberal.

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          • Author by RABBITLUVR (August 21, 2008 2:25 pm ET)
               

            I take it then that Ronald Reagan 'hated' America too because he proclaimed himself to be a 'citizen of the world'.

            No matter what you post, MGarnett, you're gonna get called out on it. My advice to you is to quit while you still have some semblance of dignity.

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        • Author by mgarnett251924 (August 21, 2008 11:29 am ET)
             
          Nancy P. your queen said that "GOD" gave BHO to America... rofl! And yet it's us repubs that have the Messiah complex...
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          • Author by pete592 (August 21, 2008 12:08 pm ET)
               
            God gave us a lot of things, if Obama's not one of them, does that mean he's an abomination?
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            • Author by mgarnett251924 (August 21, 2008 12:12 pm ET)
                 
              Pet, your own party talks about his as "chosen" and "from God"...
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              • Author by pete592 (August 21, 2008 12:24 pm ET)
                   
                Nice dodge.
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                • Author by mgarnett251924 (August 21, 2008 12:37 pm ET)
                     

                  Dodge or fact?

                  I did not lie, she said it, your party is calling him the Messiah...

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                  • Author by commonsenseliberal (August 21, 2008 12:42 pm ET)
                       

                    ONE person from the Dem party has referred to Obama as the messiah - and not even in the way you douches on the right mean it.  Then, you righties took the moniker, ran with it, and use it, as Pete said above, as a school yard taunt.  Nice.  You're dispicable.

                    And to respond briefly to your post about liberals being commies, want a communist nation, etc.  That's all bs - and you freakin' know it.  Communism wouldn't advance our causes and the things we care about.  In fact, Communism would kill our side just as much as Fascism is killing your side right now.

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                    • Author by mgarnett251924 (August 21, 2008 12:48 pm ET)
                         

                      What do you want then?

                      Are you for the GOV controling / providing all healthcare?

                      Are you for re-distribution of wealth?

                      Are you for the GOV "socilizing" oil companies?

                      Are you for tax increases?

                      Are you for cradle to grave "social" programs?

                      We can go one by one and debate them..

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                  • Author by pete592 (August 21, 2008 12:53 pm ET)
                       

                    Pelosi said that Obama was a blessing, not the messiah. 

                    Pelosi probably has too much respect for Jesus to describe Obama in the blasphemous way that conservatives have.

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              • Author by Pyrrhonist (August 21, 2008 12:59 pm ET)
                   
                I see the subliminal messages from the "chosen one" ad are working after all.  You can say it - he's the Antichrist. I got that email too, I just didn't believe it.  
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      • Author by semiarid (August 21, 2008 10:23 pm ET)
           
        PC, that is because you are at a comment section on a Limbaugh article. This isn't rocket science, it's just a thread that hasn't gotten too far off track (yet). 
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    • Author by snoopy (August 20, 2008 8:53 pm ET)
         
      What do you expect from the mouthpiece of the republican party? He'll do everything to  innoculate songbird from criticism about his service, including the lies songbird tells to embellish his lackluster record, but let's be clear. Republicans offered a bunch of white guys who between them had more wives than a saudi sheik, now they are holding a convention whose diversity consists of a bunch of white guys who had more wives than a saudi sheik, and they are just livid that a bunch of democrats who had the balls to run both a woman and a black man actually had the balls to do so. Republican base is racist to the core.
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      • Author by DAWUSS (August 20, 2008 8:57 pm ET)
           
        And don't forget - before the nomination, Limbaugh was a huge critic of John McCain, saying that he only straight talk that came from John McCain was his name and that he went wherever the wind blew. Now that McCain is the GOP nominee, it's a whole new light...
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        • Author by proudconservative (August 20, 2008 9:01 pm ET)
             
          He's also said, it's about keeping a radical socialist from making it to the whitehouse.  McCain is the one now to stop the democrats from getting there, but he still wants McCain to more of a conservative whilst accomplishing that.
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          • Author by snoopy (August 20, 2008 9:06 pm ET)
               
            Close, but no cigar. Limbaugh actually said McCain's job is to keep a n****r from occupying the "white" house.
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            • Author by proudconservative (August 20, 2008 9:09 pm ET)
                 

              snoopdawg,

              Nice try but your schizzle a bit wanting.

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              • Author by snoopy (August 20, 2008 9:12 pm ET)
                   
                Sorry PC, but McCain's base is dying to say the n word. When it comes to issues, today's "republican" has nothing to offer but insults.
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                • Author by my4cents (August 20, 2008 9:25 pm ET)
                     

                  If McCain can literally,legally say 'dont vote for the N**R' and get elected, he would be shouting it from the roof top tomorrow. And there will still be people voting for him. Enough to get him elected? We will know how race conscious  Americans are (similar to taliban in a way), in November.

                  He has no principles, he is no maverick, and he is no different from Bush.

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                • Author by proudconservative (August 20, 2008 9:40 pm ET)
                     

                  redbaronfoe,

                  Thank you for your pointed instruction and encouragement against the use of insults.  The manner of your conduct here over the years, fully demonstrates how to keep the dialogue above the demeaning use of insults and allow those who visit here, to see the benefit and gain from your fine examples of 'insultless' discourse posted here that show that insults should not be used as a part of one's efforts to win the debate, no matter how tempting it might be for someone, not you of course, to fill their postings with insult after insult with those with whom they disagree because of course, placing of insults in comments demeans the process of exchanging ideas and would indicate one's inability to demonstrate superiority of rationale or clearly have lost the argument.  To see it otherwise would be....insulting.

                  Thank you for continuing to lead the way in refraining from any insulting insinuations or comments that are intended to insult and therby show weakness in the core of your belief system.

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                  • Author by snoopy (August 20, 2008 10:02 pm ET)
                       

                    What's the matter, PC? You've spent the same amount of time here doing just that. Sorry to hear you can dish it out but can't take it. Get used to it, y'all lowered the bar on civil discourse. I'm just playing by your rules. So stop crying like Depends John, you suddenly found civility PC.

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            • Author by mgarnett251924 (August 21, 2008 11:37 am ET)
                 

              Talk abaout a lie...

              RACE is NOT the reason we want to defeat BHO...

              I think he is a radical, far left socialist...

              If Condie Rice was running I'd vote for her, and last I looked she is a WOMAN and African American.

              So piss off...

              It's policies, judgemnts, taxes, oil, socilized medicine that I hate...

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              • Author by snoopy (August 21, 2008 12:21 pm ET)
                   
                You people think Jesus is a radical socialist. Ironic that y'all want to claim him as your saviour consdering your hate for his political views.
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                • Author by proudconservative (August 21, 2008 1:43 pm ET)
                     

                  Snoopy,

                  Jesus Christ was no political figure, though he affected the politics of the day, but He was all about saving souls.  When our Lord died for the ungodly, he bore the sins of all who would believe in Him as their Savior, from the ills of sin in this world and the next.

                  Many wanted Him to become a political or military leader to expel the Romans and re-establish a physical government at that time.  But His kingdom is spiritual and anyone who calls upon Him, will be saved!

                  His work is way beyond politics because correct politics never saved anyone from damnation.  Having the proper political beliefs are not the way to obtain eternal salvation.

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                • Author by hogprint (August 21, 2008 2:03 pm ET)
                     
                  Strawman...
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                  • Author by hogprint (August 21, 2008 2:07 pm ET)
                       
                    Not for you PC, the snoopdog.
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                  • Author by snoopy (August 21, 2008 3:37 pm ET)
                       

                    Well, I like to use strawman arguments against people who are making strawman arguments. Seems only fitting.

                    Like your two comics though. It's good to have a sense of humor.

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              • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (August 21, 2008 5:06 pm ET)
                   

                If Condie Rice was running I'd vote for her, and last I looked she is a WOMAN and African American.

                LOL You might want to re-phrase that statement, Condi's pro-choice!

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              • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (August 21, 2008 5:08 pm ET)
                   

                If Condie Rice was running I'd vote for her, and last I looked she is a WOMAN and African American.

                OMG, LOL I forgot to add, Condi's also pro-affirmative action!

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                • Author by mgarnett251924 (August 21, 2008 7:26 pm ET)
                     

                  I'd still vote for her, I never said I want to overturn RvWade, it's the law... I'd say it stands... Nothing wrong with Affirm Action either, hand up, not hand out, I have said from start.

                  She is smart and loves this country... nuf said.

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                  • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (August 21, 2008 7:59 pm ET)
                       

                    I'd still vote for her, I never said I want to overturn RvWade, it's the law... I'd say it stands... Nothing wrong with Affirm Action either, hand up, not hand out, I have said from start.

                    Then you better find another party because the Republican party platform is for overturning both roe v wade and affirmative action.

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              • Author by pparrish4537 (August 22, 2008 8:33 pm ET)
                   
                Condi Rice is a sell out token who is sitting pretty to make millions on the W legacy.
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          • Author by semiarid (August 21, 2008 11:46 am ET)
               

            So, do you agree that Obama is a "radical socialist"? If so, would you please provide a web definition from a non-partisan source for the term "radical socialist" for me, and make a case for how Obama fits the definition?

            Otherwise, careful readers here might assume you are a right-wing hack spewing red-scare propaganda.

            FYI radical socialists, marxists, and communists all have their own parties. The democratic party supports capitalism, and is neither communist, marxist, or stalinist, no matter how many times a day you hear right-wing radio pundints claim it. Dems like Obama do support higher tax rates for the very wealthy than the working class, and tighter regulation to keep greedy corporations in line, I'll grant, but that's not socialism.

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            • Author by proudconservative (August 21, 2008 1:28 pm ET)
                 

              Ann is 10,

              Here is what makes for a marxist:

              Seeking the endorsement of the CDSA in his first election.    ttp://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng45.html#anchor1078925

              What's the CDSA you ask?????? 

              http://www.chicagodsa.org/index.html

              And ne'er we forget William Ayers, the unrepentent leftist terrorist of Weatherman infamy....

              "Mr. Obama also fit in at Hyde Park’s fringes, among university faculty members like Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, unrepentant members of the radical Weather Underground that bombed the United States Capitol and the Pentagon to protest the Vietnam War. Mr. Obama was introduced to the couple in 1995 at a meet-and-greet they held for him at their home, aides said."

              That from this article.. 

              http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/11/us/politics/11chicago.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print&adxnnlx=1219339366-5PfXZB5pTf2uTiMEegsbfg

               

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              • Author by semiarid (August 21, 2008 11:55 pm ET)
                   

                PC, at least you tried to respond rationally, so props for that.

                You've adequately proven that CDSA is a communist group.

                However, just because Obama sought their endorsement (if he in fact did seek it, as opposed to the group just endorsing him) in no way proves that he is a radical socialist. This all happened over 12 years ago, unlike endorsements from extreme righties actively sought by McCain this year.

                Similarly, how do you figure that Obama's having acquaintances who used to be, in the last century when they were young, radical socialist terrorists, should reflect badly on him now?

                Now I'll make it easy on you: a socialist is someone who believes in socialism, which is a a political theory advocating state ownership of industry. I assume that the adjective radical is intended to imply extremism, so calling Obama a radical socialist means that he really really really wants state ownership of industry so much that he can't think of anything else.

                Perhaps, if you are still checking this thread, you can get back to me with some reasonable reason for calling Obama a "radical socialist".

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                • Author by proudconservative (August 22, 2008 11:12 pm ET)
                     

                  Thank you Annie for your respectful response as well.  I will try my best to rationally prove my concerns regarding Obama’s connections with and possible belief in the vision of ‘radical socialism’.

                   

                  For me, the idea of socialism is far removed from the ideals on which this country is based, free enterprise, property ownership, entrepreneurism and the freedom of the individual to pursue their course in life.  Socialism inhibits that making a collective or the government the owner of capital and its use.  Thus we have ‘socialized medicine’, by the way calling the government our nannies is too innocuous, and consider excellence in productivity an evil, such as Walmart or ‘big oil’.  Should we nationalize it like Venezuela has done to control prices or profit?  I guess those ideas are ‘radical’ to me, a proud conservative.  

                   

                  Regarding his seeking the Democratic Socialist’s endorsement back in 1996 (yes, just 12 years ago)  http://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng47.html#anchor782194

                    Under the story, New Party Update

                  “Barack Obama, victor in the 13th State Senate District, encouraged NPers to join in his task forces on Voter Education and Voter Registration.”

                   

                  ‘NPers’ refers to the New Party, which was in part developed to help their candidates win elections by allowing voters to vote NP and democrat at the same time.  Again, this organization headed up by DSA members.  In Chicago, its largest partner was ACORN, of which Obama had important leadership.  The story below is “New Party Organizes”

                   

                   http://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng38.html#anchor1869108

                   

                  To get the New Party’s endorsement, you had to seek their approval, be interviewed and sign a contract that defined shared vision for your election.  Those were the values of the DSA as well.  Nowhere near the center politically.

                  However, the New Party is now defunct because the courts would not allow the ‘fusion’ of votes between parties during an election.

                   

                  I would say that by signing on to those kinds of values makes one considered a ‘radical socialist’.

                   

                  And then there is William Ayers:

                   

                  http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/August-2001/No-Regrets/

                   

                  When McCain obtained his endorsements, America had to judge what they meant for the candidate.  But it was a process more open to public scrutiny than what has been allowed by Obama into his background.  I think for good reason, too.  He knows that mainstream America would not tolerate those kinds of views. 

                   Thanks for your time
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                  • Author by open_mind (August 23, 2008 5:02 pm ET)
                       

                    You guys should really avoid any discussion of Obama's actual positions in favor of speculative arguments and guilt-by-association attacks if you want to be taken seriously by reasonably intelligent adults.

                    If Obama is indeed a radical-socialist, it should be clearly evident in his positions.  Please discuss that and stop with the idiotic speculation and apparent mind-reading attempts.

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              • Author by open_mind (August 23, 2008 4:55 pm ET)
                   

                Hahaha.  That is weak even from you, PC.  Getting an endorsement doesn't mean anything.  The NAZI's could endorse McCain, that doesn't make McCain a NAZI.

                The Ayers thing appears to be way overblown as the original article notes.  There is nothing to suggest Bill Ayers and Barrack Obama are anything more than two political figures whose speres overlap in a Chicago neighborhood.  Anything more than that is not supportable by the facts.

                Secondly, Ayer's explanation of his "unrepentance" on bombing has not been widely reported.  He explained that he wishes he could have done more to bring the soldiers home from Vietnam and not to have done more bombing necessarily.

                You guys look really desperate every time you try to trump up the argument that Obama is a communist or some crap like that.  At least you didn't bring up Odinga.  I will give you that.

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    • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (August 20, 2008 9:02 pm ET)
         

      "It's -- you know, it's just -- it's just we can't hit the girl. I don't care how far feminism's saying, you can't hit the girl, and you can't -- you can't criticize the little black man-child. You just can't do it, 'cause it's just not right, It's not fair. He's such a victim."

      Ahhh, poor Limbo. You want to call Obama an "uppity N" sooo bad. Actually you could, only the lunatic fringe thinks your not a racist anyway.  

      And for those conservatives tired of the race issue, you'll have to accept that some of your fellow conservatives can't have a discussion about Obama without discussing his race. Imagine that! <sarcasm>

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    • Author by rjc (August 20, 2008 9:10 pm ET)
         
      I thought conservatives were supposed to be color-blind, yet they always seem to be pointing out Obama's race.
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      • Author by DAWUSS (August 20, 2008 9:22 pm ET)
           

        His race, Obamessiah (which, I bought into until I saw the GOP was taking the DNC out of context), his party affiliation, his eloquence, his lack of eloquence, his lack of experience, his experience... I mean, the conservatives say they want to spend time criticizing him on political issues, but their main emphasis seems to be on things that really aren't that big of an issue.

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        • Author by mgarnett251924 (August 21, 2008 11:39 am ET)
             

          To you...

          But to me his associates, his policies, his tax plan, his socilized medicine, his spending ( which repubs totaly screwed up, stupid jerks spent WORSE then dems )

          This is what matters

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          • Author by snoopy (August 21, 2008 12:30 pm ET)
               
            But especially the color of his skin. Y'all hate anyone who isn't white and long for the days of lynching. Issues? Yeah, right. That's why Rush called him a little black sambo, because he's discussing issues...
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            • Author by mgarnett251924 (August 21, 2008 12:59 pm ET)
                 
              I said I would not only vote FOR, but finacialy support and work for a great American Condie Rice, both a Woman and a African American, but mainly becasue she loves America and is PROUD of it and has been, and came from racisism and poverty and rose to huge sucess, not calling folks whitty and hating America.
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              • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (August 21, 2008 5:17 pm ET)
                   

                I said I would not only vote FOR, but finacialy support and work for a great American Condie Rice, both a Woman and a African American, but mainly becasue she loves America and is PROUD of it and has been, and came from racisism and poverty and rose to huge sucess, not calling folks whitty and hating America.

                LOL

                I love how Republicans love to paint the few African Americans in their  party as "rise above poverty" stories to help your agenda but YOU are FLAT OUT WRONG about Condi.

                Condi was the only child of Presbyterian minister Reverend John Wesley Rice, Jr., who was a guidance counselor at Ullman High School and minister of Westminster Presbyterian Church, which had been founded by his father. Condi's mother, Angelena, was a science, music, and oratory teacher at Ullman.

                Oh, black folks don't call white folks "whitey" anymore, that's an old 60's word. The new word is "cracker". <sarcasm>

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              • Author by leftinmississippi (August 22, 2008 12:24 pm ET)
                   
                Assuming you meant "whitey", who used that term and when? Where is your proof? And don't site that racist candy-a$$ Sean Hannity. Real proof.
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                • Author by open_mind (August 23, 2008 5:04 pm ET)
                     
                  I think he must have caught an episode of The Jeffersons once.
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          • Author by rjc (August 21, 2008 1:20 pm ET)
               
            So I should vote for another Republican - because the Republicans totally screwed up? Are you seriously advocating that logic?
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      • Author by semiarid (August 20, 2008 11:04 pm ET)
           

        The GOOP is colorblind, now I'm convinced ... but the GOOP spokespeople are not above appealing to their base-bubbas who aren't, but only if the person-of-color candidate is from the other side. If Rice were to be selected as McCain's VP choice, all this would stop right now.

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    • Author by DAWUSS (August 20, 2008 9:39 pm ET)
         
      BTW, just a quick question - am I still a GOP hack?
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      • Author by snoopy (August 20, 2008 10:10 pm ET)
           
        I'm hoping you're an independant. Time will tell.
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      • Author by lindenbully (August 20, 2008 10:20 pm ET)
           
        Based on your output here, (on the site, not on this particular thread) I'd have to say the odds are 2 to 1 in favor of GOP hack. As Snoop said, time will tell. I'll keep an open mind, however.
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      • Author by semiarid (August 20, 2008 11:20 pm ET)
           

        You pegged this right: 

        "conservatives say they want to spend time criticizing him on political issues, but their main emphasis seems to be on things that really aren't that big of an issue."

        Meaning, the conservatives are talking trach to bring out the knee-jerk reaction from the voters. Raise your taxes! Sheesh. I've visited and read at Obama's website, and found that his stated policies are substantial, that is not what the conservative pundints would have you believe. That being said, Obama is inexperienced, there's no two ways around it. However ... so is McCain, who also has not had any governing experience that would help him as president if he were to be elected. McCain does not appeal to the GOOP base, he's made too many centrist mistakes over the years, so he's relying on people like me,  conservative democrats, to vote for him. I still haven't decided on Obama for sure, and I might have considered McCain, until he did this:

        Obama never did any such thing. 

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    • Author by jmh (August 20, 2008 9:53 pm ET)
         
      2cents:

      It has been so many years since reading any James Baldwin.

      Is Rush trying to make some literary reference here or is he just making foolish comments?

      If not literary, Rush's comments are certainly deep with irony and bigotry.

      Furthermore, Limbaugh's notion that McCain's campaign rhetoric is benign is, quite simply, wrong. Not to mention that McCain does not even really like his own constituents. To listen to McCain's rhetoric is to know that he is one of the least diplomatic of politicians... ever. If McCain wants to make the case that Obama would not make an effective leader then why does he not make his case instead of smearing Obama's character?

      And why cannot McCain's character be questioned I wonder?...rhetorically...
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    • Author by AB-001 (August 20, 2008 10:05 pm ET)
         

      This is Rush at his ugliest.  And when he gets called on it, how fast do you think he'll use that familiar refrain: "I was quoted out of context"?  And how fast will the minions in his audience, as well as the Coulters and Hannitys come to his defense?

       
      That's Rush, he doesn't mean it.

      He was quoted out of context.

      It's just a joke.  You people are too sensitive!

      Repeat ad infinitum

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      • Author by Timmee (August 20, 2008 10:55 pm ET)
           
        Rush here is doing just that about McCain's ads....saying they are no big deal.

        It just shows that these cultic @ssholes can feign ignorance as well as they fake outrage.
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    • Author by pete592 (August 20, 2008 10:55 pm ET)
         

      DRUGBAUGH: " Obama's patriotism is not being attacked in an ad. McCain's just out there saying he's putting his own personal political ambition ahead of the country's."

      McCAIN:  "I didn't decide to run for president to start a national crusade for the political reforms I believed in or to run a campaign as if it were some grand act of patriotism. In truth, I wanted to be president because it had become my ambition to be president. . . . In truth, I'd had the ambition for a long time."

      As usual, IOKIYAR. 

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    • Author by Timmee (August 21, 2008 1:10 am ET)
         
      Accuse the accuser is another Rovian favorite.

      Rush is clearly a bigot and like Savage likes to imply that Obama is an "affirmative action" candidate. They have spent the last eight years stoking the fires of resentment against affirmative action, so telling the rednecks that Obama ONLY made it this far because he is black, fits right into that.
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      • Author by spintronic (August 21, 2008 8:54 am ET)
           

        You know what is funny about the thought of Obama being the "affirmative action" candidate?

        Seems lile conservatives have no problem with incompetent family members getting jobs because of their connections and parental influence.

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    • Author by wookie (August 21, 2008 10:22 am ET)
         
      I geuss its sort of like how you can't criticize the little old white man child because he was a POW.
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      • Author by mgarnett251924 (August 21, 2008 12:30 pm ET)
           

        I've been looking at all the fring web site and blogs, you can start watching the wheels come off the BHO soul-train.

        Can't wait to come back here and other sites and watch how here and elsewhere we STOLE the election or who's fault this was or how the media stole this election too...

        You guys never get it, MOST of red America do not want "socilized" policies, that hating America or lack of pride is NOT a winning tone for the general election.

        Your side is going to lose again.

        BHO is toast.

        Just keep watching the polls and I'll see you guys in two weeks when JMc is ahead by 10, then 20....

        You guys should have picked BRC, you will easy.

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        • Author by mgarnett251924 (August 21, 2008 12:44 pm ET)
             

          Crap, my typing bites... sorry...

          Last line above should say:

          You left leaners should have picked Hillery, you would win easy.

          Now, not so easy is it?

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        • Author by Pyrrhonist (August 21, 2008 1:20 pm ET)
             

          BHO soul train?

          How is that not racist?

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          • Author by dchance (August 21, 2008 9:16 pm ET)
               

            Keep feeding them rope, and they eventually hang themselves.

            Garnett is swinging in the wind and doesn't even realize it.

             

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        • Author by Timmee (August 21, 2008 11:38 pm ET)
             
          We should all be concerned about having a fair election this year.
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        • Author by leftinmississippi (August 22, 2008 12:28 pm ET)
             
          What is this BHO soul train?  I think your prejudice is showing.
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    • Author by shaggles (August 21, 2008 1:05 pm ET)
         
      Man-child?  WTF?  I haven't read the comments yet but I'm sure I'm not the first to make the connection from "man-child" to "boy".
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    • Author by jmh (August 21, 2008 1:15 pm ET)
         
      Who says i dont have a sense of humor...

      i found this quite cute picture of Mr limbaugh

      http://www.bigfoamyhead.com/galleryimages/bfh_manatee.bmp
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    • Author by info4803 (August 21, 2008 1:52 pm ET)
         

      Rush Limbaugh is a drug addict racist... does ANYONE actually care what he says? What a loser who has failed to step into the 21st century.

      Rush, whatcha gonna do when they ..... OUTNUMBER YOU? It's coming, you know. Hmm, yeah... that's what I thought. You'll just continue to self-medicate and hide behind your microphone.

      Good thing no one can see you, huh? I bet you look just as ugly as you SOUND, physically and spiritually.

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    • Author by brucehshore7951 (August 21, 2008 2:10 pm ET)
         

      to - mgarnett251924 :

       I read your posts and am confused.  Lets talk Drilling:

      Oil cos can drill in ANWAR today and we would NOT see THIS oil for many years so no help now.  Nuclear - while reasonablly safe operationally - where do we store nuke waste?  Safely for over 100 years..?  Look big oil are NOT looking out for m/m average american.  If you don't see this then look in your heart of hearts.  They just spent over $88 million on PR to persuade you..and lobbying.  If you like Mccain you are being mislead cause he is NOT anything special.  Cant you see what bush/cheney,rumsfeld..etc have done to our country?....all for a buck?  We are at the point of no return...tainted trade aggreements, lies x ininifty.....we need change......im a former republican...get real...

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      • Author by mgarnett251924 (August 21, 2008 2:40 pm ET)
           

        None of the "new" forms of energy will be really available for 10 years also, wind, solar, ect are not ready for prime time, so should we not do them either because they are NOT going to happen or help short term?

        I say NO, we need to do it ALL and now, tax incentives for solar, wind, nuke AND oil, also natural gas and newer cleaner coal...

        We can not just inflate our tires and ONLY do unproven tech, but we can do EVERYTHING, including amwar and offshore.

        I'm willing to meet you more then 1/2 way if you can give in on vastly expanding oil, offshore and amwar, then we repubs can work on conservation, making tax breaks for wind and solar WHILE PROTECTING the envior.

        I remember folks from the far left saying that the old Alaskan Pipeline would ABSOLUTLY destroy wildlife, Carabo, ect in the wilderness...

        Did NOT happen, same folks now saying Amwar will be destroyed. You were wrong then, your wrong now, but we can work on it all if your side will stop preventing new refineries thru enviro lawsuits and how about having just ONE gas formula, instead of 8 different for the hard core enviro wacko states?

        That would help instantly by increasing capacity.

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        • Author by blueblood (August 21, 2008 8:32 pm ET)
             

          Wrong. The oil companies have decided not to expand refinery capacity because they want to keep the supply down to raise prices. SOlar and wind can work now and would have been available on a wider basis a long time ago if Reagan hadn't ended subsidies to wind in the 80s. Conservatives can't govern.

          Any oil that comes from offshore drilling, a minimal amount in 20 years, would go to the world market, which has its price heavily inflluenced by OPEC. why with conservaitves is it more oil, when the dangers of global warming are becoming ever more apparent. Why not invest in mass transit and increase CAFE standards? that would help the country and its people, a concept anathema to conservatives.

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    • Author by joseph_b26 (August 21, 2008 6:12 pm ET)
         

      Racism Masked By Debate And Opinion

       

      Racist remarks do not qualify as opinion. Nor does Russ Limbaugh's comments example debate. Enough is enough, this is hurting my hopes for this country one day making this form of speech illegal and considered hate speech. Limbaugh seems to get away with this on a daily bases. Has the media become so sure it is important to give this kind of speech a forum?

      MSNBC would make the claim Pat Buchanan' occasional racist rants qualify as his expressed right to have a opinion. How does this kind of speech get the kind of press it has gotten? I thought we were headed to a time when this is put behind us. We can call this the covert racism era. Long gone are the days when racism was direct, hurtful and threating. As I black man, I held out hopes for a better showing for this country, yet people like Limbaugh would like to make it an institution. 

      Joseph

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      • Author by mgarnett251924 (August 21, 2008 7:35 pm ET)
           

        Where can we debate?

        Not here. we, myself included, do not debate, we call each other names.

        You hit our guys, I hit back...

        Seems we can not agree on anything.

        I will not accept far left positions, you will not accept mine.

        Where can we debate?

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        • Author by commonsenseliberal (August 21, 2008 8:26 pm ET)
             

          And again, you miss the point.  Not surprisingly.

          Buchanan's racist rants are indeed opinion.  Buchanan has a right to his racist opinions, but he does not have a right to spew his racist opinions on public airwaves.  The same goes for Limbaugh.  Both Limbaugh and Buchanan have public forums from which they spew their racist rhetoric.  It's unacceptable.  If they want to yell the equivalent of the 'n' word, let them do so on a street corner (where anyone with any couth could pummel the sh!t out of them - and rightfully so!).  Of course, they're too wimpy to do that - so they just sit behind their microphones, away from anyone who could put them in their places.

          I hope that one day we can rise above this bs and start talking about real issues, instead of skin color.  The comforting thought for me is that I'll (G-d willing) outlive both of these worthless pieces of skin.

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          • Author by joseph_b26 (August 21, 2008 10:53 pm ET)
               

            She Did Miss the Point, And How 

            Thank you for the insight concerning the right to have an opinion. I have noticed mediamatters has few Republican spin masters on this site. This guy Jeter is looking for taunting battle he will never get from me. I know I have better things to do then to go on a Republican blog to argue my point. I think there is a concerted effort to minimize the Democratic advantage. Really some on this site are on other liberal sites making the same arguments.  

            Joseph 

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    • Author by SteveHenderson111206 (August 21, 2008 8:57 pm ET)
         

      "Little black man-child", that sounds like Rush's politically correct way of calling Obama a 'BOY'.

       

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    • Author by TrueDemocrat4377 (August 22, 2008 11:54 am ET)
         
      Trying to ban Limbuagh from the airwaves and limit his free speech should be anathema to anyone who respects civil liberties.
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    • Author by pparrish4537 (August 22, 2008 5:17 pm ET)
         

      Where have you been?!? You people have been criticizing Obama. And, mainly with lies. Do you watch McCain's commercials? All criticizing Obama, no discussion of the facts. Why are you people so afraid of the FACTS that you have to turn LIES into issues?

      No criticism of Obama...  are you oblivious? Where have you people been? Are you all brain damaged from watching too much Fox "News" and listening to Limbaugh/O'Rielly/Hannity?

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