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Liddy, Pruden repeat debunked claim that Obama's birth certificate is fake

August 28, 2008 4:32 pm ET

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SUMMARY: G. Gordon Liddy asserted on his nationally syndicated radio show: "[W]e still don't have a birth certificate for [Sen. Barack] Obama. There are claims that he was actually born in Kenya." The Washington Times' Wesley Pruden similarly wrote that a "summer-long controversy continues about when and where the senator was actually born" and falsely asserted that "[t]he Obama campaign has been reluctant to produce a birth certificate." In fact, the Obama campaign has released Obama's birth certificate, and even the right-wing website WorldNetDaily has reported that claims about Obama's birth certificate being fraudulent are false.

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Citing a July 20 Israel Insider article which claimed that Sen. Barack Obama's birth certificate is a "crudely forged fake," G. Gordon Liddy falsely asserted on the August 26 edition of his nationally syndicated radio show: "[W]e still don't have a birth certificate for Obama. There are claims that he was actually born in Kenya." Liddy also claimed, "If it's so important an issue that the campaign, if they had a real birth certificate from Hawaii, the campaign would put it out, not rely on a phony thing Photoshopped by Daily Kos," and stated, "And as Wes Pruden, in today's edition of The Washington Times, he's the editor emeritus, puts it, you know, this is a story that could have long legs." Indeed, in his August 26 column, Pruden wrote that a "summer-long controversy continues about when and where the senator was actually born, and whether the circumstances of his birth could cloud his eligibility to serve" and falsely asserted that "[t]he Obama campaign has been reluctant to produce a birth certificate." In fact, contrary to Liddy and Pruden's false assertions, the Obama campaign, in addition to posting a copy of the birth certificate on the campaign website, reportedly provided the original to FactCheck.org, whose staff said in an August 21 article that they "have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate," and concluded that the document does, in fact, exist, and that it "meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship."

As Media Matters documented, even the right-wing website WorldNetDaily, which had cited the Israel Insider's report that analysts determined that Obama's birth certificate is fake, has since reported in an August 23 article that "FactChecker.org [sic] says it obtained Obama's actual birth certificate and that the document was indeed real," and added, "A separate WND investigation into Obama's birth certificate utilizing forgery experts also found the document to be authentic."

From the August 26 edition of Radio America's The G. Gordon Liddy Show:

LIDDY: All right, ladies and gentlemen. There's a story in a publication called Israel Insider, and it addresses the birthplace, if you will, of Barack Obama. Now, what you have probably seen, on the Internet and places like that, is a certificate of "live birth," quote-unquote, issued by the state of Hawaii, giving, you know, the birth date of Barack Hussein Obama Jr. And Senior is listed as the father, and Ann Dunham as the mother, et cetera.

But the first thing you have to remember is this was released by the Daily Kos, which is a radical left blog. And the second thing is that it is not a birth certificate. A birth certificate, such as you and I and just about everybody else, has, is a certificate at the hospital where you're born, and it's issued, and it says, you know, who the father is and the mother is and so on. This is a document that is issued later by the state, claiming that an individual was born at such-and-such a place at such-and-such a time. And this has been -- the one that was released by Daily Kos shows clear signs of tampering, such as a mismatch in the RGB and error levels, visible indications of the previous location of the erased security border, easily detectable patterns of repeating flaws around the new security border, EXIF data that says the image was last saved with Photoshop CS3 for Macintosh, and finally a technician from Hawaii who confirms it just looks wrong. So, we still don't have a birth certificate for Obama.

There are claims that he was actually born in Kenya. I have no way of proving that or disproving that, but it would seem to me that it being so important -- I mean, because if he was born in Kenya and not in Hawaii, then he's not eligible to become president. If it's so important an issue that the campaign, if they had a real birth certificate from Hawaii, the campaign would put it out, not rely on a phony thing Photoshopped by Daily Kos, you know. Why? You have to ask yourself that question: why? And as Wes Pruden, in today's edition of The Washington Times, he's the editor emeritus, puts it, you know, this is a story that could have long legs. It's dynamite if it's true. And I don't know how many people are or are not working on the story, but as I said, it is dynamite.

From Pruden's August 26 Washington Times column:

The Democrats here are more than a little concerned about their man's slide in the polls; Gallup on Monday said the race is tied at 45-all. Even John McCain's faulty memory about his various houses and condos, so rich for the late-night comics, has not blunted what one senior Democrat calls "McCain's run of 12 unanswered points over the past fortnight."

The news may get worse. There's the story now afloat that an Obama half brother is living in grim poverty in Kenya, scratching out a bare living on a dollar a month while the senator lives in luxury on $5 million a year. Far worse, a summerlong controversy continues about when and where the senator was actually born, and whether the circumstances of his birth could cloud his eligibility to serve.

The Obama campaign has been reluctant to produce a birth certificate. This could be a story with legs, swift long legs to rival those of a Kenyan sprinter. The Clintons are surely trying to help sort this out.

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    • Author by carlileb5935 (August 28, 2008 4:41 pm ET)
         
      This is just a blatant attempt on their part to make racist comments about Obama without being explicit. With all the code words intact.
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      • Author by Kyle_Broflovski (August 29, 2008 1:07 am ET)
           
        Well, I guess if this is a question of FRAUD, then who would know better than G. Gordon Liddy?  I wonder if he learned how to forge birth certificates when he was in PRISON?
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    • Author by MidnightWriter (August 28, 2008 4:43 pm ET)
         

      G. Gordo--now botching facts the way he used to botch hotel break-ins.

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    • Author by snoopy (August 28, 2008 4:44 pm ET)
         

      Are these idiots really that stupid? You have to wonder if they are really that far gone or just saying it to poke ya in the eyes. Childish either way.

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      • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (August 28, 2008 4:50 pm ET)
           

        Are these idiots really that stupid?

        Snoopy, unfortunelty folks like Liddy, Limbo and Hannity have a very receptive GOP audience.

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      • Author by MidnightWriter (August 28, 2008 4:50 pm ET)
           

        Well, Liddy always did behave like a child.  It's like he never outgrew his highest, proudest moment in life--being the playground bully in 5th grade.

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    • Author by DAWUSS (August 28, 2008 4:54 pm ET)
         
      If you bang your head against the wall long enough, you might be able to break through eventually...
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      • Author by nerzog (August 28, 2008 4:56 pm ET)
           
        And if you use a big enough hammer, you can, indeed put a square peg in a round hole.
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      • Author by RABBITLUVR (August 28, 2008 4:58 pm ET)
           
        What is that supposed to mean? Say something enough times - no matter how WRONG it is - and it will 'break through' someone's head and be accepted as the truth?
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        • Author by MidnightWriter (August 28, 2008 5:03 pm ET)
             
          I think it means the only people stupid enough to believe anything Liddy has to say are those who are suffering from post concussion syndrome.
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        • Author by jeter2 (August 28, 2008 5:15 pm ET)
             

          I think DaWuss is adding an addition onto his house & just explaining to us how he's doing it. I mean come on, you don't think he'd use tools do ya?

          Hey Dawuss, just funning with you here, don't take it personally ;-)

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    • Author by PopeRatzo (August 28, 2008 4:56 pm ET)
         

      Jeebus! The "vault copy" of Barack's birth certificate is available for viewing at the County building right here in Chicago for anyone who cares to examine it.  Is surprising that none of the scum like Corsi or Liddy or No Quarter will take the time to do so.

      This is a ridiculous issue.  Barack has had to prove his citizenship dozens of times in his lifetime, including in FBI background checks.  He's a United States Senator!  Not even the 5 fascists on the US Supreme Court would find in favor of the people who are trying to enjoin the DNC from nominating him or Barack from being sworn in in January after he wins.  

       I knew it would get ugly with a black man running for President, but I didn't really dream it would take on this kind of insanity.  I'd say that you could take any hundred members of the "Christian Right" in this country and trade them straight up for any 100 Iranians or Venzuelans and we'd be a better country for it.  The days of Tailgunner Joe McCarthy have returned.

       That sleazy little pervert felon G Gordon Liddy doesn't have a lot of room criticizing anyone after the crimes he's committed against his country.  Liddy is a traitor, plain and simple.

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    • Author by princeofwheels (August 28, 2008 5:03 pm ET)
         

      What does the G. stand for? And where is your birth certificate?

      From this point forward, I demand that everyone in America be required to carry around their birth certificate. And also, everyone has a right to dispute the authenticity of anyones certificate and have them imprisoned.

      I think the G. was a nickname...for Goofy. His mom gave it to him.

      Stupid. This is my first WITH.....this isn't misinformation...this is equal to a Repbulican commandment. Thou shalt be stupid.

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      • Author by nerzog (August 28, 2008 5:10 pm ET)
           
        Ah, there's the rub. Republicans lie so often and so easily, we are in danger of becoming complacent. Eventually, a Republican's lying is no more extraordinary than the sun coming up, and will cease to be news.

        In fact, the Corporate Media seem to be there already on matters concerning the exaggerated Iraqi WMD intelligence. They seem to consider it "old news", as if there's nothing more to discuss.
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    • Author by loonz (August 28, 2008 5:11 pm ET)
         
      Why isn't he in prison?
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    • Author by magnolialover (August 28, 2008 5:16 pm ET)
         

      "The Obama campaign has been reluctant to produce a birth certificate. This could be a story with legs, swift long legs to rival those of a Kenyan sprinter. The Clintons are surely trying to help sort this out."

      That's the quote that I found most funny. Why? Because first of all, it's wrong. We know for a damn good fact, that Obama was born in Hawaii. And even if he wasn't, he was born of an American citizen, which makes him, an American citizen. End of story. The second part, the Washington Times even screws up the smallest details, such as using the line "Kenyan sprinter...". Kenya is known for their long distance runners, not sprinters. They can't even get the simple things correct.

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      • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (August 28, 2008 5:40 pm ET)
           

        The concern-trolling by the rightys is getting pretty crazy . I'm checking out what I can on cable and radio, but it's getting really boring hearing their little puppet shows about the Dems latest "crisis".

        They should really be doing something about that old guy in the gingham shirt and the baseball cap. He seems disoriented.

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      • Author by wookie (August 28, 2008 6:39 pm ET)
           
        Yep, they are just phoning it in now. Couldn't they do something with the Kenya national bird or something?
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      • Author by rtwmd1230 (August 28, 2008 9:39 pm ET)
           
        Jamaicans . . Kenyans ..to the Repubs, they all look alike.
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      • Author by mari2jj2970 (August 29, 2008 2:17 am ET)
           
        No it could not be a story with legs.  I have a sister who lives in Hawaii, also a friend who worked in Labor and Delivery in Hawaii and I lived in Hawaii at the time he was born.  Both my sister and the RN can guarantee that Obama was born in the hospital on Oahu.  The L and D nurse actually took care of Obama's mother.  People need to peddle their racism and lies some place else.  All this crap sent around the net regarding all these distortions of the facts about Obama only make me, a Republican till now, far more committed to stand up to their swill.  And thousands and thousands are rejecting this smear attempt.  We will make certain this lie is called out. 
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        • Author by doggone-ga (August 29, 2008 10:14 am ET)
             

          "only make me, a Republican till now, far more committed to stand up to their swill."

          Great!  Will you make an ad for Obama to counter McCains "I was a Democrat but now I support McCain" ad?  <G>

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    • Author by YMMOT (August 28, 2008 5:49 pm ET)
         
      G. Gordon Liddy: operative for the White House Plumbers unit that existed during several years of Richard Nixon's Presidency. Along with E. Howard Hunt, Liddy masterminded the first break-in of the Democratic National Committee headquarters in the Watergate building in 1972. Liddy served four and a half years in prison for his role in the burglary.

      Obviously a 'fair and balanced' source.
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    • Author by shaggles (August 28, 2008 5:51 pm ET)
         
      Why would anyone think the Watergate guy would tell the truth about the Dem candidate?
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    • Author by HeyItsTodd (August 28, 2008 7:38 pm ET)
         
      Does McCain's birth certificate count, given that it occurred before the Constitution was created, and was written with charcoal on bark?
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    • Author by BillJ-MN (August 28, 2008 7:43 pm ET)
         

      Any defenders for these clowns?

      I would love to see someone try to present either the case that Obama's birth certificate is fake or the idea that he wasn't born in Hawaii.  That would be fun.

      Any takers?

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    • Author by DudeManDude (August 28, 2008 9:21 pm ET)
         

      Though it seems like typical Republican slime tactics, this one is a little different to me. This starts to reek of right-wing desperation.

      You are really flinging things at the wall to see what sticks when you are trying this bull to give their people the idea that somehow Obama will be disqualified.

      First off, it won't happen, so why even raise it? You're just raising the already desperate hopes of the little GOP minions who listen to people like G.Gordon Liddy ( who better to advise us on legal matters than a convicted felon ).

      Therefore it can only be in hopes of "painting" Obama as somehow "foreign". Don't you think that everyone who can be hooked with this kind of smear has already signed onto to voting against Obama? It's like they are trying to keep the racists "motivated". That can't bode well for their chances.

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    • Author by mary59 (August 28, 2008 11:51 pm ET)
         
      I have proof that Gee Gordon Liddy was born on the asteroid belt, which used to be a planet before he blew it up.
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    • Author by addamstaft5325 (August 30, 2008 9:35 am ET)
         
      No, the COLB issue is NOT settled! Unfortunately, FactFinder is "involved" with Obama. Obama has something to hide, and thinks he can keep hiding it until he completes his terms as President. Why wouldn't YOU want to be confident he's qualified to run for President?
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